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timosman
01-25-2018, 05:27 AM
http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Kerry-to-Abbas-confidante-Stay-strong-and-do-not-give-in-to-Trump-539643


By Ben Caspit/Maariv January 24, 2018

The former US Secretary of State also surprised his interlocutor by saying he was seriously considering running for president in 2020.

While the White House has confirmed that since the Jerusalem Declaration there has been a complete disconnect between the Palestinian Authority and the Trump administration, it turns out that the previous administration has maintained contact with PA officials.

Maariv reported that former US secretary of state John Kerry met in London with a close associate of PA President Mahmoud Abbas, Hussein Agha, for a long and open conversation about a variety of topics. Agha apparently reported details of the conversation to senior PA officials in Ramallah. A senior PA official confirmed to Maariv that the meeting took place.

Agha is one of Abbas’s closest associates and one of the veteran peacemakers with Israel.

He conducted the “London Track,” secret negotiations held from 2010 to 2013 between the emissaries of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, attorney Yitzhak Molcho and Brig.-Gen. Mike Herzog, under the supervision and presence of Dennis Ross. Agha also authored with Yossi Beilin the Beilin-Abbas agreement in the 1990s. He is considered a staunch supporter of the peace process, very close to Abbas, and maintains an extensive network of contacts, including Israelis.

During the conversation, according to the report, Kerry asked Agha to convey a message to Abbas and ask him to “hold on and be strong.” Tell him, he told Agha, “that he should stay strong in his spirit and play for time, that he will not break and will not yield to President [Donald] Trump’s demands.”

According to Kerry, Trump will not remain in office for a long time. It was reported that Kerry said that within a year there was a good chance that Trump would not be in the White House.

Kerry offered his help to the Palestinians in an effort to advance the peace process and recommended that Abbas present his own peace plan. “Maybe it is time for the Palestinians to define their peace principles and present a positive plan,” Kerry suggested.

He promised to use all his contacts and all his abilities to get support for such a plan.

He asked Abbas, through Agha, not to attack the US or the Trump administration, but to concentrate on personal attacks on Trump himself, whom Kerry says is solely and directly responsible for the situation.

According to the report, when referring to the president, Kerry used highly derogatory terms. Kerry offered to help create an alternative peace initiative and promised to help garner international support from Europeans, Arab states and the international community.

Kerry hinted that many in the American establishment, as well as in American intelligence, are dissatisfied with Trump’s performance and the way he leads their country.

He surprised his interlocutor by saying he was seriously considering running for president in 2020. When asked about his advanced age, he said he was not much older than Trump and would not have an age problem.

Kerry explained, according to the report, that even in the Republican Party they do not know what to do with Trump and are very dissatisfied with him and that patience and breathing time are needed to get through this difficult period.

In a report on the conversation, Agha said that Kerry appears to be “crazy about things,” very energetic, and someone who is yearning to help realize the dream of peace between Israelis and Palestinians.

It is reasonable to assume that the Netanyahu government will use the details of this conversation to claim that Kerry is “obsessed and messianic” and pro-Palestinian. It is not certain that this thesis stands the test of reality.

It should be remembered that Kerry is an old friend of Netanyahu and has been a consistent supporter of Israel for decades. He believes that a genuine peace process is essential for both sides and for the survival of the State of Israel, and that the two-state solution is the only realistic option that will enable Israel to continue to maintain its character as a Jewish democratic state.

It is indeed obsessive on Kerry’s part. This “obsession” was once permitted, but has recently become almost illegitimate and post-Zionist.

Agha preferred not to respond. Kerry’s response could not be obtained.

enhanced_deficit
01-27-2018, 08:56 AM
This if true is pretty provocative statement from former Sec of State :

Report: John Kerry Told the Palestinians that Trump Could Be Out of Office Within A Year

AP
by Aaron Klein 27 Jan 2018

TEL AVIV — Former Secretary of State John Kerry reportedly attempted to sabotage the Trump administration’s attempts to broker Israeli-Palestinian peace talks, urging the Palestinian Authority not to “yield to President Trump’s demands,” and suggesting that President Donald Trump could be out of office within a year.

The report originated with Israel’s Maariv daily newspaper, and cited a senior Palestinian Authority official describing a meeting in London between Kerry and a close associate of PA President Mahmoud Abbas, Hussein Agha. Agha, who helped lead previous talks on behalf of Abbas, related the alleged details of the talk to PA officials, Maariv reported.
Citing his own newspaper, Maariv columnist Ben Caspit wrote (http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Kerry-to-Abbas-confidante-Stay-strong-and-do-not-give-in-to-Trump-539643) in the Jerusalem Post:
During the conversation, according to the report, Kerry asked Agha to convey a message to Abbas and ask him to “hold on and be strong.” Tell him, he told Agha, “that he should stay strong in his spirit and play for time, that he will not break and will not yield to President [Donald] Trump’s demands.”
According to Kerry, Trump will not remain in office for a long time. It was reported that Kerry said that within a year there was a good chance that Trump would not be in the White House.

A spokesman for Abbas did not immediately return a Breitbart News request seeking comment on Kerry’s alleged actions.
Fox News reported (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/25/john-kerry-reportedly-coaches-palestinians-not-to-yield-to-trump-in-peace-talks-spurring-backlash.html) that the State Department declined to comment on the matter.
In a statement (https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/did-john-kerry-advise-palestinian-leader-abbas-wait-out-trump), the Republican Jewish Coalition ripped Kerry’s alleged remarks as “reckless.”

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2018/01/27/report-kerry-suggested-palestinians-trump-office-within-year/





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Raginfridus
01-27-2018, 09:38 AM
Any given Prez could have been out in a year. Just talk on his part to build support for a bid himself.

oyarde
01-27-2018, 09:39 AM
Palestines are not going to take kerry seriously unless they are deranged .

timosman
01-27-2018, 09:55 AM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?518757-Kerry-to-Abbas-Confidante-Stay-Strong-and-Do-Not-Give-in-to-Trump

Raginfridus
01-27-2018, 10:01 AM
Palestines are not going to take kerry seriously unless they are deranged .Yeah, he'd be wise not to make Palestine an issue in 2020, if he's really serious. The establishment and many voters side with Israel. This leak could be forgotten, but not if he runs on foreign policy first, which I think he would want to, unless he thinks he can also shore up teamsters and populist votes from Trump.

Anti Globalist
01-27-2018, 12:37 PM
Nah he's going to be president for 8 years.

Raginfridus
01-27-2018, 12:59 PM
That's if Kerry wants a chance.

enhanced_deficit
01-27-2018, 02:07 PM
Nikki Haley, a widely respected leader within neoconservative and zionist lobbies, is facing attacks from multiple fronts and is fighting back:

US ambassador Nikki Haley accuses Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas of 'outrageous and discredited conspiracy theories'

Ms Haley’s words underscore the heightened tensions between the US and Palestinians




Alexandra Wilts Washington DC
a day ago



Nikki Haley address a UN Security Council meeting AP The US's ambassador to the United Nations has harshly reprimanded Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas (http://www.independent.co.uk/topic/mahmoud-abbas), claiming he "indulges in outrageous and discredited conspiracy" that show he lacks the “courage and the will” to strive for a lasting peace deal with Israel.
Speaking at a UN Security Council meeting, Nikki Haley (http://www.independent.co.uk/topic/nikki-haley) also suggested Mr Abbas had insulted President Donald Trump in a speech before the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) Central Council earlier in January.
“In his speech, President Abbas declared the landmark Oslo Peace Accords dead,” Ms Haley said, referring to the set of 1993 agreements between Israel and the PLO that marked the start of a peace process aimed at achieving a peace treaty.
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/readmore_card/public/thumbnails/image/2017/12/21/13/trump-jerusalem.jpg Johnson under fire after accepting Trump’s Jerusalem embassy move

(http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-trump-jerusalem-israel-palestine-embassy-decision-two-state-solution-criticism-a8174146.html)Ms Haley continued: “He rejected any American role in peace talks. He insulted the American president. He called for suspending recognition of Israel. He invoked an ugly and fictional past, reaching back to the 17th Century, to paint Israel as a colonialist project engineered by European powers.”
“A speech that indulges in outrageous and discredited conspiracy theories is not the speech of a person with the courage and the will to seek peace,” she added.
Ms Haley’s words underscore the heightened tensions between the US and Palestinians. Their relationship took a turn for the worse when Mr Trump last month formally recognised Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and said the US embassy would be moved to the holy city.

Protests erupt after Trump recognises Jerusalem as Israel's capital




The status of Jerusalem has long been a source of controversy in the Middle East.



Israelis consider the city to be their eternal capital, while Palestinians have long wished to establish east Jerusalem as the capital of a future Palestinian state.
Mr Abbas has repeatedly railed against Mr Trump’s decision regarding the city, saying that it disqualifies the US from being able to broker peace talks between the Israelis and Palestinians.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8178641.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/nikki-haley-palestine-israel-mahmoud-abbas-courage-will-peace-talks-donald-trump-us-un-ambassador-a8178641.html)