Senator Schumer's list of demands to end government shutdown

[johnwk]

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It seems quite clear that Chucky Boy Schumer is demanding the following laundry list to end his filibuster which has caused our federal government to close down.


Schumer wants permanent residency for the DACA children, most of whom are over 25 years old.


Schumer wants citizenship granted, within a few years, to the DACA children.


Schumer wants legal entry and residency granted the relatives of DACA children


Schumer wants citizenship granted to the relatives of DACA children within a few years.


If these demands are granted Schumer will then end his filibuster and also give funding for the “wall”.


Of course Schumer will give funding for the wall because the wall will no longer be an obstacle to import the estimated 20 million more democrat voters which his above demands will bring.


And it seems very likely that Senator Lindsey Graham negotiated this list of demands with Chucky Boy Schumer.


JWK




American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance a maternity ward for the poverty stricken populations of other countries who invade America’s borders to give birth.

[acptulsa]

Source?

[Zippyjuan]

end his filibuster

Nobody is filibustering.

[acptulsa]

I think we were supposed to respond to this fakenews by saying, "Cool story, bro!" and moving on.

[jkr]

#gotrope?

[johnwk]

Nobody is filibustering.

Government Shuts Down After a Failed, Frantic, Two-Hour Senate Vote (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/01/government-shuts-down-as-senate-democrats-filibuster-republicans-spending-bill.html)


Jan 20, 20181:25 AM


"A group of mostly Senate Democrats filibustered a Republican bill to fund the government Friday night, and the government is now officially in a shutdown."

<snip and continue>


"When McConnell, at 12:15 a.m., finally voted “no”—a procedural move that allows him to bring the measure up for a vote again—the vote was called at 50 to 49. Though the cloture vote required 60 to break a filibuster, getting a majority was key for McConnell, since it allowed him to suggest that the bill would have passed if not for the Democratic filibuster. "





Stop making crap up Zippy!



JWK

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[Zippyjuan]

Trump was for DACA- and against it- all in the span of just a day.

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/daca-trump-trump-trump-article-1.3760776


A week ago, with congressional Democrats and Republicans gathered around a table to talk immigration, the President showed flickers of leadership.

Trump said many things in that meeting, some of them contradictory. But to the extent there was a consistent message, it was this: He wanted to bring the two sides together, as a first order of business protecting young undocumented immigrants brought here as children, paired with additional border security.

If the group of lawmakers struck a deal, “I will be signing it. I’m not going to say, ‘Oh, gee, I want this or I want that.’ ”

Then, Senate Republicans and Democrats brought him exactly such an agreement — codifying protections for Dreamers, protecting a few other smaller groups, and ramping up border security funding. Trump, says Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, was on board with the framework as late as 10 a.m. Thursday morning.

In the next two hours, something radical changed, and by a noon meeting, the President was all but putting that blueprint through a shredder, including dumping on “shithole” countries.

As Graham put it: “Tuesday we had a President that I was proud to golf with, call my friend, who understood immigration had to be bipartisan. Now I don’t know where that guy went. I want him back.” You can’t get him back, senator. There’s only one Donald Trump.

[johnwk]

Source?

You apparently have not been paying attention to what Senator Schumer has been saying about immigration for the past year.


JWK




There was a time not too long ago in New York when the able-bodied were ashamed to accept home relief, a program created by Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1931 when he was Governor. Now, New York City and many other major cities are infested with countless government cheese factions from $#@! hole countries, who not only demand welfare, but use it to buy beer, wine, drugs, sex, and Lotto tickets.

[johnwk]

Trump was for DACA- and against it- all in the span of just a day.

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/daca-trump-trump-trump-article-1.3760776

Give it a freaken break. A lot of Republicans are in favor of DACA, but only if it is accompanied with the end to chain migration, a merit based immigration policy and money allocated to building the wall.

Stop with your Yellow Journalism crap!

JWK

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[TER]

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[Zippyjuan]

DACA is only controversial with the White House. The vast majority of Americans favor it. Even Republicans.


http://thehill.com/latino/351901-poll-two-thirds-of-republicans-back-citizenship-for-daca-recipients


Poll: Two-thirds of Republicans back citizenship for DACA recipients

About two-thirds of Republicans support a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants protected under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, according to a new poll.

The latest Harvard-Harris survey found broad support for a pathway to citizenship for everyone in the country illegally, providing certain conditions are met. And by a nearly 2-to-1 margin, Republicans say that young immigrants brought to the country through no fault of their own should be shielded from deportation.

Overall, 77 percent of voters — and 66 percent of Republicans — favor a pathway to citizenship for those in the country illegally if they learn English, pay fines or back taxes and have jobs that pay taxes.

On the question of DACA — the Obama-era program that protects an estimated 800,000 people from deportation — 77 percent of all voters and 65 percent of Republicans say they favor work permits and a path to citizenship.

Earlier this month, President Trump infuriated the left and thrilled his supporters by announcing he would phase out the DACA program. Voters are split 50-50 along partisan lines over Trump’s announced six-month phaseout.

The president has long wrestled with the issue, acknowledging that there is a human element in determining what to do with young people who have established lives in the U.S. since being brought here illegally.

Trump has expressed hope that Congress can find a legislative solution.

Eighty percent of voters say DACA should be settled through an act of Congress, as Trump seeks, rather than by executive order, which is how it was originally implemented by former President Barack Obama.

After visiting with Trump last week, Democratic leaders Charles Schumer (N.Y.) and Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) said they believed they’d struck a deal with Trump on DACA, although the White House has sought to tamp down that talk.

Immigration hawks on the right and some of Trump’s allies, like Breitbart News, are furious with the president for dealing with Democrats and backtracking on the issue. They say Trump gave away his greatest bargaining chip in the effort to secure funding for a border wall.

The White House has said any potential DACA bill does not have to be tied to border wall funding, though other border security measures would likely need to be included.



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[johnwk]

http://thehill.com/latino/351901-poll-two-thirds-of-republicans-back-citizenship-for-daca-recipients

Poll: Two-thirds of Republicans back citizenship for DACA recipients




Do they also back chain migration along with DACA? Do they also support a merit based immigration system like that of Australia? And how about a secured border. How many support having a secured border?


Stop with your Yellow Journalism.


JWK

[Zippyjuan]

Trump Tweets:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJrgnQTVoAAuRH9.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJICphUXcAI3xFV.jpg

Trump to Dreamers: "You convinced me!"

https://www.buzzfeed.com/adriancarrasquillo/that-time-donald-trump-had-a-meeting-with-dreamers-and-said?utm_term=.jv9Y50AvX#.yeJmZGdY8


That Time Donald Trump Had A Meeting With DREAMers And Said “You Convinced Me” On Immigration

Two years ago, Trump met with immigration activists who told them their stories and asked for his support on immigration. "You convinced me," Trump said as the meeting ended.

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-08/28/14/campaign_images/webdr09/that-time-donald-trump-had-a-meeting-with-dreamer-2-4410-1440785449-0_dblbig.jpg

[johnwk]

Trump Tweets:




Why post that nonsense over and over again?

We all know most people do not want to deport DOCA "children", including President Trump. But granting them legal residency must be accompanied with the end to chain migration, a merit based immigration policy and money allocated to building the wall.



JWK

[TER]

We all know most people do not want to deport DOCA "children". But granting them legal residency must be accompanied with the end to chain migration, a merit based immigration policy and money allocated to building the wall.

Stop with your Yellow Journalism crap!

JWK



Why post that nonsense over and over again?

If it was only yellow journalism...

[Zippyjuan]

Why post that nonsense over and over again?

We all know most people do not want to deport DOCA "children", including President Trump. But granting them legal residency must be accompanied with the end to chain migration, a merit based immigration policy and money allocated to building the wall.



JWK

Chain migration is anti-family values. Keeping families apart. Families who stay together tend to assimilate better and are less likely to rely on public services since they can support each other- emotionally as well as financially.

Most Americans oppose the wall too. http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/351752-poll-support-drops-for-deportation-border-wall


Support for President Trump's signature plan to build a wall along the Mexican border has dropped over the past two years, as has support for his policy of increased deportations of undocumented immigrants.

A Monmouth University poll released Thursday found 35 percent of Americans support Trump's plan to build a wall, down from 48 percent in September 2015.

Support for deportations has dropped as well, especially among Republicans. Support for deporting immigrants who have been here at least two years dropped from 43 to 30 percent among Republicans over two years.

A majority of all respondents, 76 percent, told Monmouth that undocumented immigrants who have worked in the U.S. for at least two years should have a path to citizenship.

“The rhetoric on illegal immigration may remain red-hot, but many Americans, especially Republicans, have shifted to a more moderate position since last year’s presidential campaign,” Monmouth poll director Patrick Murray said in a statement

Ron Paul: https://mises.org/blog/ron-paul-sums-his-anti-wall-anti-mass-deportation-views-immigration


Ron Paul: You’ll need a really efficient wall and a coast guard that goes up and down the coast blowing boats out of the water…The idea of building walls around the country, I think it’s a joke. I could never take a position that we need more barbed wire to solve this problem.

[TER]

Chain migration is anti-family values.


Oh really? Didn’t know you had such heart.

Please, share with us also your opinions on abortion...

[Mach]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdL2k8jbnAs

Bonus....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvRZdNoHEf8

[Anti Federalist]

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[Anti Federalist]

DACA is only controversial with the White House. The vast majority of Americans favor it. Even Republicans.

Since progressives have no problem deporting children back to South American and Caribbean shitholes at machine gun point, well, fight fire with fire then.

https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_960w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2016/11/03/Production/Magazine/Images/Archives11201_r1.tif

Piss off back to wherever you came from.

[Zippyjuan]

Since progressives have no problem deporting children back to South American and Caribbean $#@!holes at machine gun point, well, fight fire with fire then.

https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_960w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2016/11/03/Production/Magazine/Images/Archives11201_r1.tif

Piss off back to wherever you came from.

That is what anti-immigrants would like to see more of- a bigger police state. Ron Paul warned about that.

[TER]

That is what anti-immigrants would like to see more of- a bigger police state. Ron Paul warned about that.

No one here is against immigrants or is anti-immigrant. It is illegal immigration we are against. Just like Ron Paul.

Try and catch up.

[Anti Federalist]

That is what anti-immigrants would like to see more of- a bigger police state. Ron Paul warned about that.

I know, a dangerous situation.

Which is why I want it all shut off, until we can get a handle on what is going on.

[Brian4Liberty]

DACA is only controversial with the White House. The vast majority of Americans favor it. Even Republicans.


http://thehill.com/latino/351901-poll-two-thirds-of-republicans-back-citizenship-for-daca-recipients



https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2018/01/20/00b8e9bb-0103-4dc6-9432-82fe42006ec6/resize/620x/2b7f5be3b384adb0f259507e3c608354/n3nds-1.png

To summarize: They turned immigration into another "it's for the children!1!!" bleeding heart argument, the last refuge for agendas that fail on any other level. Just a foot in the door to bring in millions of Democrat voters.

[Anti Federalist]

No one here is against immigrants or is anti-immigrant. It is illegal immigration we are against. Just like Ron Paul.

Try and catch up.

Oh, I am.

Shut it all down.

We got major problems we need to address and get control of, without having to keep a lid on a whole slew of Balkanized factions at each other's throats at the same time.

[johnwk]

Chain migration is anti-family values. Keeping families apart.


There is little objection for the "families" of DACA children to come here as everyone else comes. Get on the end of the line and make an application. But this is not what Schumer wants. He wants them to be given legal resident status immediately, and without getting on the end of the line. Do you know how many millions of people this involves?


JWK

[Zippyjuan]

I know, a dangerous situation.

Which is why I want it all shut off, until we can get a handle on what is going on.

Net immigration hit zero a few years ago.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/27/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/04/25101222/FT_17.04.17_unauthorized_update_2015-1.png

[Zippyjuan]

There is no objection for the "families" of DACA children to come here as everyone else comes. Get on the end of the line and make an application. But this is not what Schumer wants. He wants them to be given legal resident status immediately, and without getting on the end of the line. Do you know how many millions of people this involves?


JWK

Yes, about 700,000.

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/09/25130032/FT_17.09.21_DACA_status.png


Although roughly 800,000 unauthorized immigrants have ever received benefits through DACA, about 110,000 of this group are no longer enrolled in the program. About 70,000 former DACA participants did not renew their benefits or had their renewal applications denied. Another 40,000 have adjusted their legal status and obtained green cards, which grant lawful permanent residence. (Some unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. can obtain legal status by marrying an American citizen or lawful permanent resident, obtaining asylum, or receiving certain types of visas such as those given to victims of a crime, among other ways.)

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/09/25/key-facts-about-unauthorized-immigrants-enrolled-in-daca/


To qualify for DACA, enrollees must meet certain conditions, such as being enrolled in high school or having a high school diploma or GED equivalent, and not being convicted of a felony, significant misdemeanor, or three or more other misdemeanors.

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/09/25131407/FT_17.09.25_DACA_MostDreamers.png

[TER]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/18/usatoday-recognizes-daca-dreamer-very-different/

USA Today: Amnesty Debate Is About 3.6 Million ‘Dreamers,’ not Just 800,000 DACA Illegals

[oyarde]

Net immigration hit zero a few years ago.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/27/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/04/25101222/FT_17.04.17_unauthorized_update_2015-1.png

It will go back to zero again if the Dow drops from 26K to 13K I imagine .

[RonZeplin]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/18/usatoday-recognizes-daca-dreamer-very-different/

USA Today: Amnesty Debate Is About 3.6 Million ‘Dreamers,’ not Just 800,000 DACA Illegals



Up to 3.6 million Dreamers in line for citizenship under DACA replacement (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/20/36m-dreamers-line-citizenship-daca-replacement/)- The Washington Times - Friday, October 20, 2017

[timosman]

Up to 3.6 million Dreamers in line for citizenship under DACA replacement (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/20/36m-dreamers-line-citizenship-daca-replacement/)- The Washington Times - Friday, October 20, 2017

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?518588-There-are-3-6M-DREAMers-%97-a-number-far-greater-than-commonly-known

[Swordsmyth]

DACA is only controversial with the White House. The vast majority of Americans favor it. Even Republicans.


http://thehill.com/latino/351901-poll-two-thirds-of-republicans-back-citizenship-for-daca-recipients



https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2018/01/20/00b8e9bb-0103-4dc6-9432-82fe42006ec6/resize/620x/2b7f5be3b384adb0f259507e3c608354/n3nds-1.png

FAKE POLL

[Swordsmyth]

Chain migration is anti-family values. Keeping families apart. Families who stay together tend to assimilate better and are less likely to rely on public services since they can support each other- emotionally as well as financially.


If people choose to come here then leaving their extended family is their problem, the interests of Americans come first.

[TheCount]

No one here is against immigrants or is anti-immigrant. It is illegal immigration we are against. Just like Ron Paul.


Then why is chain migration being discussed?

[Swordsmyth]

Then why is chain migration being discussed?

Because we are discussing the chain migration of the relatives of ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Chain migration of the relatives of legal immigrants is a different issue for a different thread.

[johnwk]

Nobody is filibustering.


When will you admit you were lying?

JWK

[johnwk]

No one here is against immigrants or is anti-immigrant. It is illegal immigration we are against. Just like Ron Paul.

Try and catch up.

Exactly! But the open border crowd continues to misdirect, lie, Obfuscate and make crap up, just like Zippy does!


JWK

[TheCount]

Because we are discussing the chain migration of the relatives of ILLEGAL ALIENS.

The legality of chain migration of illegal aliens? Are you serious?

Here's the quote:


A lot of Republicans are in favor of DACA, but only if it is accompanied with the end to chain migration, a merit based immigration policy and money allocated to building the wall.

Yep, not about illegal immigrants.



Chain migration of the relatives of legal immigrants is a different issue for a different thread.

This comment again exposes that the topic of discussion is not simply illegal immigrants, but all immigrants.

[TheTexan]

We've been without government for 2 days 11 hours 40 minutes 46 seconds

:( :(

[Danke]

We've been without government for 2 days 11 hours 40 minutes 46 seconds

:( :(


Double check all your doors are locked.

[oyarde]

Double check all your doors are locked.

I have not even given Schumer my list of demands yet .

[oyarde]

We've been without government for 2 days 11 hours 40 minutes 46 seconds

:( :(

I decided to reward myself with a couple days of loafing ( raining cats & dogs anyway ). I also announced to my tribe they can have a tax holiday .

[timosman]

This comment again exposes that the topic of discussion is not simply illegal immigrants, but all immigrants.

Don't you sniff people's underwear on Mondays?:cool:

[Madison320]

There's ONLY one reason democrats like immigration and republicans don't like it. Future votes.

[TheTexan]

Double check all your doors are locked.

No kidding. I can't imagine the riots that will happen when the roads stop working. Which could be any moment really :/

This is the worst crisis this country has faced since September 11, 2001

[devil21]

I'm telling y'all, they're trying to time all this stuff up with the petroyuan launch. China keeps pushing it back a month or so at a time and then Congress magically pushes back major funding bills accordingly and the legislation that will formally turn all of the illegal immigrants in the country into 100% genuine tax slaves to big Daddy Sugar. They will NEED to capture their "taxability" once the dollar reserve is formally dead, per global banker policy, and the dollars can't be printed into infinity and exported elsewhere. So few people truly understand what "citizenship" status means in this country. It means one is a taxable employee of the federal corporation. "Illegals" are not citizens but they also are not legally liable for taxation. Once they're all made "legal" in some form they will all be slaves on the plantation too.

(Davos meeting this week to iron out the final steps of transition, Trump talked to Xi a day before the shutdown. Note that Schumer, the banker's front man in the Senate, called the immigration deal a "global agreement". He was telegraphing what's going on but TPTB in this country are busy trying to maintain the facade that it's just about immigration and spending, keeping the people divided while the whole game is changed.)

[Anti Federalist]

Net immigration hit zero a few years ago.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/27/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/04/25101222/FT_17.04.17_unauthorized_update_2015-1.png

Excellent, let's keep it that way, and get rid of as many that are here illegally as possible.

[Swordsmyth]

The legality of chain migration of illegal aliens? Are you serious?

Here's the quote:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by johnwk http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=6577821#post6577821)
A lot of Republicans are in favor of DACA, but only if it is accompanied with the end to chain migration, a merit based immigration policy and money allocated to building the wall.




Yep, not about illegal immigrants.
DACA is illegal immigrants, people don't want to give them legal status and then let in all their 4th cousins too.





This comment again exposes that the topic of discussion is not simply illegal immigrants, but all immigrants.

NO, I said regular chain migration belonged in a different thread.

[RonZeplin]

In 1993 Harry Reid was against Anchor Babies, which are virtually not even being mentioned by anyone in congress these days.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWc1qT8M1eU

10 Point Comprehensive Immigration Plan @ 25:30.
Anchor Babies/Birthright Citizenship @ 12:14, Anchor Babies/Clarifying the 14th amendment @ 29:00. Present day numbers are much larger than those that Harry talked about in '93.
CBO: At Least 4.5M Anchor Babies in U.S. (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?518000-CBO-At-Least-4-5M-Anchor-Babies-in-U-S&highlight=anchor+babies)

Sad to say, but President Trump and Congress are less pro-American than a 1993 Democrat!

[Dangergirl]

I'm surprised Chucky didn't ask for the Moon.

[devil21]

In 1993 Harry Reid was against Anchor Babies, which are virtually not even being mentioned by anyone in congress these days.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWc1qT8M1eU

10 Point Comprehensive Immigration Plan @ 25:30.
Anchor Babies/Birthright Citizenship @ 12:14, Anchor Babies/Clarifying the 14th amendment @ 29:00. Present day numbers are much larger than those that Harry talked about in '93.
CBO: At Least 4.5M Anchor Babies in U.S. (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?518000-CBO-At-Least-4-5M-Anchor-Babies-in-U-S&highlight=anchor+babies)

Sad to say, but President Trump and Congress are less pro-American than a 1993 Democrat!

Who do you think has been financing most of the new federal debt issuance? The immigrants popping out a new child every year or two. Every anchor baby is a new debt slave, securitized into collateral against the banker's debt via the birth certificate registration process and associated "citizenship". Congresscritters know how federal debt is created to keep the ponzi going but they act like they support (or oppose) as needed to win support from the sheep. The bankers require fresh bodies to continue monetizing federal debt and immigrants fit the bill since everyone else is breeding less.

[timosman]

Who do you think has been financing most of the new federal debt issuance? The immigrants popping out a new child every year or two. Every anchor baby is a new debt slave, securitized into collateral against the banker's debt via the birth certificate registration process and associated "citizenship". Congresscritters know how federal debt is created to keep the ponzi going but they act like they support (or oppose) as needed to win support from the sheep. The bankers require fresh bodies to continue monetizing federal debt and immigrants fit the bill since everyone else is breeding less.

Any opposition to the infinite growth of the economy is unpatriotic.:cool:

[devil21]

Any opposition to the infinite growth of the economy is unpatriotic.:cool:

When 87% of wealth created in 2017 went to the 1%, it's not growth except for the 1% consolidating control further. But that's the point, keeping the slaves slaving and the divided and the 1% 1%ing. Once you see it for what it is, it is sooooo obvious everywhere you look. A gnosis of sorts is attained.

[johnwk]

When 87% of wealth created in 2017 went to the 1%, it's not growth except for the 1% consolidating control further. But that's the point, keeping the slaves slaving and the divided and the 1% 1%ing. Once you see it for what it is, it is sooooo obvious everywhere you look. A gnosis of sorts is attained.



:rolleyes:

[johnwk]

President Trump has identified four requirements which must be agreed upon with any DACA legislation. They are:


An end to chain migration;


a merit based immigration system;


a secured border with a physical wall were necessary;


and an end to the suicidal immigration lottery system.


Why do these common sense requirements make our open border Fifth Column's heads expload and caused them to shut down our federal government?


JWK







Without a Fifth Column Media, Yellow Journalism and a corrupted FBI, Loretta Lynch, Hillary Clinton and Barack Hussein Obama, would be making license tags in a federal penitentiary

[TheCount]

President Trump has identified four requirements which must be agreed upon with any DACA legislation. They are:


An end to chain migration;


a merit based immigration system;


a secured border with a physical wall were necessary;


and an end to the suicidal immigration lottery system.


It's just about illegal immigration you guise, srsly. No one is anti-immigration or anti-immigrant.

[TheCount]

DACA is illegal immigrants, people don't want to give them legal status and then let in all their 4th cousins too.

So it's about the chain migration of legal immigrants, then?

[devil21]

:rolleyes:

Not sure why the eyeroll. It's the truth.

Just watch. A next step Big Brother control mechanism will be pushed through as part of this "immigration deal", like biometric E-Verify national ID cards. It will be sold as a necessary measure to prevent illegal immigration. They're setting everyone up for the "synthesis" result.

[timosman]

So it's about the chain migration of legal immigrants, then?

Do you always have to play dumb?:cool:

[Swordsmyth]

So it's about the chain migration of legal immigrants, then?

DACA "kids" are illegal, the chain migration is based on them, it is their chain migration.

[TheCount]

DACA "kids" are illegal, the chain migration is based on them, it is their chain migration.

Can they chain migrate legally before they themselves are legal?

[TheCount]

Just watch. A next step Big Brother control mechanism will be pushed through as part of this "immigration deal", like biometric E-Verify national ID cards. It will be sold as a necessary measure to prevent illegal immigration. They're setting everyone up for the "synthesis" result.

It's actually being pushed as voter ID... You can get a preview of the talking points in this thread:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?518665-CA-Illegal-immigrants-who-can-get-a-D-L-will-now-be-registered-to-vote


Then there should be a requirement for applicants requesting voter registration to submit proof of citizenship (i.e., birth certificate) at the time that they submit their documents for a license, and also a review and verification process; otherwise, that request would just be declined.


Also, maybe subclass the applicant status with different types of licenses, such as color coded licenses with the appropriate classification, "U.S. Citizen" on white background, "U.S. Resident" or "Permanent Resident" on orange background, "Temporary Resident" on green background, "Undeclared Alien" on grey background, etc.

"We need everyone to have ID which shows citizenship status" = Real ID. Then they won't need e-verify, they'll just check everyone's Real ID.

Bonus points: They get a new national database of all Americans in the process.

[Swordsmyth]

Can they chain migrate legally before they themselves are legal?

Even if they are legalized they will not be legal immigrants, they will be illegal immigrants who were granted legal status, therefore any chain migration of their relatives will be chain migration of the relatives of illegal immigrants.

[TheCount]

Even if they are legalized they will not be legal immigrants, they will be illegal immigrants who were granted legal status, therefore any chain migration of their relatives will be chain migration of the relatives of illegal immigrants.

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[Swordsmyth]

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A picture of your brain?

[johnwk]

Not sure why the eyeroll. It's the truth.



It's meaningless blather intended to attack the most productive and hard working American citizens, in addition to attacking those who invest their savings in order to generate new material wealth and profit off of it. In fact, your comment is very much in line with what our country's Fifth Column movement constantly complains of instead of using their freedom to get out there and work to participate in the creation of wealth and profit when doing so.

My comment does not mean there aren't "Big Brother" types who gravitate to offices of public trust in order to tighten the iron fist of government around the necks of America's labor and businesses and use their power to enslave, just as is done with Federal Reserve Notes and the notoriously evil income tax, both of which are used to plunder the real material wealth generated by America's labor and businesses.

So, if you want to attack something tangible, then attack the tools of oppression, your real enemies. Start with today's dishonest and corruptible medium of exchange and the notoriously evil tax calculated from profits, gains, salaries, tips, wages and other lawfully earned "incomes".


JWK




“Honest money and honest taxation, the Key to America’s future Prosperity“ ___ from “Prosperity Restored by the State Rate Tax Plan”, no longer in print.

[devil21]

It's meaningless blather intended to attack the most productive and hard working American citizens, in addition to attacking those who invest their savings in order to generate new material wealth and profit off of it. In fact, your comment is very much in line with what our country's Fifth Column movement constantly complains of instead of using their freedom to get out there and work to participate in the creation of wealth and profit when doing so.

My comment does not mean there aren't "Big Brother" types who gravitate to offices of public trust in order to tighten the iron fist of government around the necks of America's labor and businesses and use their power to enslave, just as is done with Federal Reserve Notes and the notoriously evil income tax, both of which are used to plunder the real material wealth generated by America's labor and businesses.

So, if you want to attack something tangible, then attack the tools of oppression, your real enemies. Start with today's dishonest and corruptible medium of exchange and the notoriously evil tax calculated from profits, gains, salaries, tips, wages and other lawfully earned "incomes".


JWK




“Honest money and honest taxation, the Key to America’s future Prosperity“ ___ from “Prosperity Restored by the State Rate Tax Plan”, no longer in print.



You should study up on what the pyramid and eye on the back of the biggest tool of oppression represents. I'll give you a little hint. It's something about managing slaves and extracting their energy.

[johnwk]

You should study up on what the pyramid and eye on the back of the biggest tool of oppression represents. I'll give you a little hint. It's something about managing slaves and extracting their energy.


I'm not looking for 'hints'. And, I'm not looking for distractions from the subject of the thread. I'm looking for a productive discussion concerning the topic of the thread.

If I want to talk about secret handshakes, decoder rings and oaths signed in blood, I will join a forum engaged in that subject.


JWK




Without a Fifth Column Media, Yellow Journalism and a corrupted FBI, Loretta Lynch, Hillary Clinton and Barack Hussein Obama, would be making license tags in a federal penitentiary

[devil21]

I'm not looking for 'hints'. And, I'm not looking for distractions from the subject of the thread. I'm looking for a productive discussion concerning the topic of the thread.

If I want to talk about secret handshakes, decoder rings and oaths signed in blood, I will join a forum engaged in that subject.


JWK




Without a Fifth Column Media, Yellow Journalism and a corrupted FBI, Loretta Lynch, Hillary Clinton and Barack Hussein Obama, would be making license tags in a federal penitentiary



Well then, by all means, carry on. I'm sure you will find the fruitful answers that you seek.