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Anti Federalist
01-17-2018, 02:15 PM
Today Adam Kokesh Filed Papers Seeking the Libertarian Presidential Nomination. Then He Was Arrested on Drug Charges.

http://reason.com/blog/2018/01/16/adam-kokesh-arrested-on-drug-charges-wit

Brian Doherty|Jan. 16, 2018 8:55 pm

Adam Kokesh, longtime anarcho-libertarian activist who first came to public prominence with Iraq Veterans Against the War in 2007 and was later a big Ron Paul supporter, today filed the paperwork necessary to officially seek the U.S. presidency. He is hoping for the Libertarian Party's presidential nomination.

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He also had his RV pulled over twice by Texas police, and was arrested the second time.

A video of the second pullover that led to the arrest can be found on Facebook (and is embedded below). It shows highway patrol officers instructing Kokesh to shut off his camera at the point a police dog, off-camera, was said to have "alerted" to the RV. Kokesh was pulled over for driving 74 in a 65 zone, according to one officer in the video.

According to the Texas ACLU, the police do not have the right to demand a citizen stop videotaping willy-nilly though they have the loophole I'm sure they'd summon here regarding "truly interfering with legitimate law enforcement operations." The ACLU notes that "Professional officers, however, realize that such operations are subject to public scrutiny, including by citizens photographing them."

Jacob Sullum at Reason in a classic 2013 cover story demolished the probity of the "dog alert=suspension of Fourth Amendment rights" line of thought and practice.

A spokeswoman for the Wise County Jail confirms Kokesh is in their custody on four charges, one related to possession of under two ounces of marijuana, two related to possession of another controlled substance she was not able to specify, and one for "tampering and/or fabricating evidence with intent to impair" a police investigation. He will likely be arraigned and have bond set tomorrow.

Ben Farmer, the Kokesh campaign's chief strategist, says in an email that "we don't know any more than you do at this time about the charges or the circumstances of his arrest. We do find it suspicious that Adam was pulled over twice within an hour of formally announcing his candidacy for President. Particularly, since he just came off of a 4 month, cross-country tour in the same vehicle without being pulled over once the entire time."

I reported on one of Kokesh's previous brushes with the law, based on videotaping himself with legally forbidden weapons on federal property, back in 2014. He got off with two years probation then.

Schifference
01-17-2018, 03:26 PM
Sounds like he is off to a great start!

Raginfridus
01-17-2018, 03:31 PM
Celebrity can only do him well.

Zippyjuan
01-17-2018, 03:32 PM
Jeff Sessions would love to see all people like that thrown in jail for as long as possible. Drugs should be illegal and states should not have the right to choose which laws they want to ignore or enforce.


A spokeswoman for the Wise County Jail confirms Kokesh is in their custody on four charges, one related to possession of under two ounces of marijuana, two related to possession of another controlled substance she was not able to specify, and one for "tampering and/or fabricating evidence with intent to impair" a police investigation.

timosman
01-17-2018, 03:41 PM
Jeff Sessions would love to see all people like that thrown in jail for as long as possible. Drugs should be illegal and states should not have the right to choose which laws they want to ignore or enforce.

What happened to the jerk who was normally handling Zippy's account? Any chance you will be permanently assigned to this? :cool:

Zippyjuan
01-17-2018, 03:47 PM
What happened to the jerk who was normally handling Zippy's account? Any chance you will be permanently assigned to this? :cool:

Thank you for your informative contribution to the discussion.

RJB
01-17-2018, 03:55 PM
I am all for legalization etc., but if you are an attention getter like Kokesh, the wise thing would be to lay off the stuff while attracting attention.

sparebulb
01-17-2018, 03:55 PM
Jeff Sessions would love to see all people like that thrown in jail for as long as possible. Drugs should be illegal and states should not have the right to choose which laws they want to ignore or enforce.

We have a new Number 2.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2JQlnuWLyJI/TU0knqiGdLI/AAAAAAAAAU8/YewJ5TJFUpk/s1600/scan0014.jpg

I'm guessing that this one is a skinny, sexually repressed, pinch-faced, Evan McMuffin type that watches gladiator movies.

timosman
01-17-2018, 04:30 PM
Thank you for your informative contribution to the discussion.

Ok, I get it. Your time is too valuable. Can we at least be assured the next schmuck will be paid a decent wage? We've had a stream of underachievers recently and I suspect it was caused by budgetary constraints.

Raginfridus
01-17-2018, 04:45 PM
What happened to the jerk who was normally handling Zippy's account? Any chance you will be permanently assigned to this? :cool:
Donate to his patreon if you want him to keep posting.


I am all for legalization etc., but if you are an attention getter like Kokesh, the wise thing would be to lay off the stuff while attracting attention.10, even 5, years ago? Sure. Today? People seem to want celebrities and personalities. I think voters like the controversy more than ever.

Madison320
01-17-2018, 04:49 PM
What happened to the jerk who was normally handling Zippy's account? Any chance you will be permanently assigned to this? :cool:

I don't see anything out of character. Jeff Sessions is a republican. Zippy is just doing his job.

DamianTV
01-17-2018, 05:00 PM
Jeff Sessions would love to see all people like that thrown in jail for as long as possible. Drugs should be illegal and states should not have the right to choose which laws they want to ignore or enforce.

Jeff Sessions obviously has never read the 9th or 10th Amendments of the Bill of Rights.

JUST SAY NO! TO JEFF SESSIONS!

eleganz
01-17-2018, 07:15 PM
Kokesh has a really bad reputation with the people who have been around him in the past.

AZJoe
01-17-2018, 08:24 PM
Good quote (https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/marijuana-arrests/)by Lawrence Vance at LewRockwell.com (https://www.lewrockwell.com/) :


According to a new report (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/10/12/police-arrest-more-people-for-marijuana-use-than-for-all-violent-crimes-combined/?utm_term=.226985b63799)issued by the American Civil Liberties Union and Human Rights Watch, “Police arrest more people for marijuana use than for all violent crimes — combined.” On any given day in the United States, “at least 137,000 people sit behind bars on simple drug-possession charges.” This in spite of the fact that medical marijuana is legal in 29 states, recreational marijuana is legal in 8 states, and the possession of small amounts of marijuana has been decriminalized in 21 states. As I recently stated (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/01/laurence-m-vance/movies-and-marijuana/): “No one should ever be arrested, fined, or imprisoned for possessing a plant the government doesn’t approve of. Not in the land of the free.” Want to eliminate half of the cops in the United States? End the war on drugs. It is, after all, a war on freedom (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2012/10/laurence-m-vance/the-war-on-drugs-is-a-war-onfreedom/).

pcosmar
01-17-2018, 08:30 PM
Publicity stunt.

I could buy "set up" on once.. but not twice.

RJB
01-17-2018, 08:39 PM
10, even 5, years ago? Sure. Today? People seem to want celebrities and personalities. I think voters like the controversy more than ever.
I think I was trying to politely call him an attention whore.

sparebulb
01-17-2018, 08:40 PM
Publicity stunt.

I could buy "set up" on once.. but not twice.

I can't quite describe it, but there is something very, very odd about Kokesh's behavior.

oyarde
01-17-2018, 08:43 PM
Jeff Sessions would love to see all people like that thrown in jail for as long as possible. Drugs should be illegal and states should not have the right to choose which laws they want to ignore or enforce.

I see nothing that the Feds would have any control over drugs .

Working Poor
01-18-2018, 06:17 AM
I can't quite describe it, but there is something very, very odd about Kokesh's behavior.

I can describe it he has made a fool of himself. I was hopeful that he could do something good but he has made some very stupid choices. He could have used his anti war stance and his good looks to take him far. Instead he has drawn attention to himself as a drug addict and a idiot.

loveshiscountry
01-18-2018, 07:07 AM
Jeff Sessions would love to see all people like that thrown in jail for as long as possible. Drugs should be illegal and states should not have the right to choose which laws they want to ignore or enforce.

Freedom should be legal and states should not have the right to abuse the rights of the individual.

euphemia
01-18-2018, 07:16 AM
Freedom should be legal and states should not have the right to abuse the rights of the individual.

That still would not have made Kokesh wise.

Origanalist
01-18-2018, 07:42 AM
I can describe it he has made a fool of himself. I was hopeful that he could do something good but he has made some very stupid choices. He could have used his anti war stance and his good looks to take him far. Instead he has drawn attention to himself as a drug addict and a idiot.

I agree, personally I've never understood why people rally around this guy.

dean.engelhardt
01-18-2018, 07:48 AM
My opinion of Adam has changed in the last 10 years. He goes out of his way to find unjust laws to get arrested over. I suppose we should thank him for highlighting laws that are anti-liberty, but Kokesh getting arrested again is getting old. I still think it would be good for our country if he gets elected to some office and has a legitimate platform for liberty.

Schifference
01-18-2018, 08:21 AM
Being an ass does not preclude any Democrat or Republican from holding office.

Wooden Indian
01-18-2018, 09:41 AM
Adam has a card for medical marijuana and I've seen him show it in the past to out of state LEO.

Thing is, Texas does not recognize prescriptions out of state and even charged a 70 year old man recently.

"That can lead to situations like that faced by*a California grandfather*who was traveling in Texas to visit his granddaughter, who has Stage 4 Hodgkin's Lymphoma. The 67-year-old made several mistakes:

-- He openly admitted to having a pot pipe in his car. That gave police probable cause to search his vehicle.

-- He was carrying four ounces of prescribed marijuana and edibles in the trunk of his car and thought that it was okay because he'd been using the drug as a prescription now for 10 years.

The senior citizen now faces two felony drug charges."

www.kriegerlawfirm.com/blog/2017/02/bringing-medical-marijuana-in-from-out-of-state.shtml

angelatc
01-18-2018, 09:42 AM
I agree, personally I've never understood why people rally around this guy.

He's a super nice guy. Thats not enough to get him elected though.

dannno
01-18-2018, 09:57 AM
Publicity stunt.

I could buy "set up" on once.. but not twice.

Could be he got pulled over once, they suspected he had something and didn't have a dog and they had to let him go, he was probably asking if he committed a crime, was free to go, etc..

Then they may have notified the police in the direction he was heading to pull him over again and bring a dog?

dannno
01-18-2018, 09:59 AM
Instead he has drawn attention to himself as a drug addict and a idiot.

Lol, nobody under 50 calls people who use weed "drug addicts", I don't think they found coke or heroin on him... probably some cannabis concentrated, although I know he likes the mushrooms and the molly as well those are not addictive substances.

shakey1
01-18-2018, 10:31 AM
Another case of the man keeping us down.

https://shop.creepyhollows.com/images/P/spell-to-remove-blockages.jpg

oyarde
01-18-2018, 10:55 AM
If he got the libertarian presidential candidate slot he would have the record I think for most arrests at that position . Might also set a new low on votes for that spot too .Looks like I may have to write in Oyarde again .

angelatc
01-18-2018, 11:13 AM
Lol, nobody under 50 calls people who use weed "drug addicts", I don't think they found coke or heroin on him... probably some cannabis concentrated, although I know he likes the mushrooms and the molly as well those are not addictive substances.

I am over 50 and I've never heard anybody referred to as a weed addict.

angelatc
01-18-2018, 11:16 AM
Could be he got pulled over once, they suspected he had something and didn't have a dog and they had to let him go, he was probably asking if he committed a crime, was free to go, etc..

Then they may have notified the police in the direction he was heading to pull him over again and bring a dog?

That would be my guess. I don't know how to gauge how known he is outside of our circles, nor do I know what kind of info a cop would have when pulling him over. But I think it's pretty likely they're happy to use him as an example of what they will do to you if you appear on their radar too many times.

Origanalist
01-18-2018, 11:29 AM
Lol, nobody under 50 calls people who use weed "drug addicts", I don't think they found coke or heroin on him... probably some cannabis concentrated, although I know he likes the mushrooms and the molly as well those are not addictive substances.

The drug addict part was over the top, but he always seemed like a grandstanding attention whore to me. I'll have to take Angela's word for it having never met him.

pcosmar
01-18-2018, 12:04 PM
The first stunt,, with the shotgun and drug bust was stupid,, but that one I could buy as "set up".

This one,, publicly "in yer face",, and packing drugs is simply stupidity.

he may be trying to make a point but is doing it poorly. :(

Swordsmyth
01-18-2018, 03:10 PM
If he got the libertarian presidential candidate slot he would have the record I think for most arrests at that position . Might also set a new low on votes for that spot too .Looks like I may have to write in Oyarde again .

Oyarde 2020!

You would get my vote.

dannno
01-18-2018, 03:14 PM
If there is no victim, there is no crime; for possession itself is never a crime. If you falsely arrest someone who has committed no crime, then YOU are the criminal. In the drug war, those who have chosen the side of Darwin instead of the side of the people, are the criminal aggressors standing on the wrong side of history, and they will be judged for the evil they have wrought upon this earth.

Today is Thursday January 18th, 2018 and you are listening to ADAM VS THE MAN coming to you live from cell D-27 at the Wise County Jail in Decatur, Texas behind drug war enemy lines. For 3 days I have been denied my basic human rights as a prisoner of the United States and international law. I have not been provided any paperwork about my case or my charges despite repeated requests; and I have not been allowed to meet with my attorney. My bail has been set at $80,000 which is to say that an innocent man has been kidnapped by the government and is being held for ransom.

The Wise County bond system is a shakedown racket that needs to go. They say that I can be released if I pay $6,000 of which I would never see again. They’re doing this and harassing innocent Americans every day and the war on drug users because they want us to be afraid. Well, in the Marines, they forgot to teach us to be afraid. They taught us not to negotiate with terrorists, and certainly not acquiesce to their demands without a fight.

Well today I would rather fight than buy my freedom. Thanks to our supporters on Steemit, we have raised more than enough money to pay off the terrorists, but I have instructed my staff to donate that money to the libertarian party instead. If you’re not already, please become a member of the LP by going to www.LP.org (http://www.lp.org/).

I’m also excited to announce two nominations for the party, but first, the reasons. I am running for the libertarian party nomination of president in 2020 in order to dissolve the entire federal government in a peaceful and orderly manner. My opposition is the pro-pedophile Bill weld, who is launching his campaign unofficially this weekend with a documentary produced by a convicted pedophile. As if that wasn’t bad enough, Bill weld is also a Hillary Clinton supporter. You would think that being a big government Massachusetts Republican would disqualify him from representing Libertarians.

Which brings us to our next two pedophilia protectors in the party, chair Nick Sarwark, and Vice Chair Arvin Vohra. Sarwark has already dissented Cara Schultz who was hired recently as a candidate recruiter recently despite the fact that she has publicly famed LP candidates including myself without apology or retraction. In 2018, it’s time to clear house at the top of the LP. If we are to be the party of principle, we must rid ourselves of liars like Cara Schultz. We must universally condemn and reject candidates like pro pedophile Bill weld. We must make it clear that someone like Vice Chair Arvin Vohra does not represent us when he publicly supports pedophilia. We must not let a pedophile sympathizer, protector of liars, or even someone who is not willing to stand up to the establishment like Nick Sarwark lead our party to ruin. We must not allow ourselves to be vulnerable to infiltration from political enemies or COINTEL PRO type government agents.

So I am happy today to announce my nomination of two of my longtime friends, as well as longtime friends of the party and freedom itself, Erin Adams of Oklahoma for LNC chair, and Carla Howell of Massachusetts for Vice Chair. I hope they will join me in ensuring that the LP can be all that it can be. We must hang together or surely, we will all hang separately. They have suggested me to this recent and Justice because they want us to be afraid, to cower, and to feel small and weak. However, the “Freedom!” movement gets bigger and stronger every single day; despite the fact that I was set up for false arrest on the day that I announce my candidacy. There has been a shameful mainstream media blackout at this incident, but I am sure they will be happy to cover pro-pedophile Bill Weld and his pedophile coming out documentary, because they want Americans to think that’s what represents libertarians.

We will still have to work extra hard to get our message out and demand that the mainstream media portray us fairly with equal time just like the old parties, and interpreter as honestly as champions of a message of universal human rights, ethics, peace, and love. Maybe they never will because they know that if the American people knew they had a choice that they could vote for freedom, that if they finally had a choice to vote for no one to be president and finally free America, they will.

Time is up. The game is almost over. The libertarian party far better represents the American people better than the Democrats or Republicans. There are more Americans who believe in Freedom from the drug war. There are more Americans that believe in freedom from the terror war. There are more Americans that believe in freedom from the government.

And that is why an American Freedom will win!

https://adamkokesh.nationbuilder.com/

angelatc
04-20-2018, 03:25 PM
The drug addict part was over the top, but he always seemed like a grandstanding attention whore to me. I'll have to take Angela's word for it having never met him.

I have not met him but I worked on his campaign last time. He is a full-time self-employed libertarian activist. That goes hand in hand with attention whore. Activism isn't worth anything if nobody notices you.

I will say that after his last campaign ended, he did something that I've never seen done before or since. He let other liberty candidates use his mailing lists. For free. I had custody of them at the time, someone approached me, and he said, "As long it it helps the cause, absolutely."

Politics in general always has a group of hangers-on. People who do nothing but suck up resources. Adam generates income, but he employs people and reaches a young male base. We desperately need people to spread the message, and Adam does that much better than most.

angelatc
05-05-2018, 07:48 AM
I have not met him but I worked on his campaign last time. He is a full-time self-employed libertarian activist. That goes hand in hand with attention whore. Activism isn't worth anything if nobody notices you


This thread immediately popped into my head when I saw this : Can't embed a Facebook video here, but in an interview, a teenage Bitcoin millionaire states he became interested in libertarian philosophy when Adam got arrested for dancing at the Jefferson Memorial.

Link for those who Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Tosh.0verflow/videos/1609920892458168/

ZakCarter
05-05-2018, 11:10 AM
This thread immediately popped into my head when I saw this : Can't embed a Facebook video here, but in an interview, a teenage Bitcoin millionaire states he became interested in libertarian philosophy when Adam got arrested for dancing at the Jefferson Memorial.

Link for those who Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Tosh.0verflow/videos/1609920892458168/

Thanks for sharing that! More than a few of us had our lives changed thanks to Adam!