A 38 Minute 'Mistake': Hawaii sends incoming ballistic missile alert

[goldenequity]

Hawaii mistakenly sent an alert broadcast that a ballistic missile is incoming...


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Breaking911
@Breaking911
Video From Hawaii Shows Children Being Placed Into Storm Drains After False Alert Sent Out About Missile Strike

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Sara Donchey
@KPRC2Sara
This was my phone when I woke up just now.
My family is on the North Shore. They were hiding in the garage. My mom and sister were crying.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTcVe7HU8AAwXIG.jpg:small


EndGameShow
EndgameShowWW3
It took 38 mins for the Hawaiian govt to put out a retraction and say this was a mistake, unsatisfactory!


Tulsi Gabbard
HAWAII - THIS IS A FALSE ALARM. THERE IS NO INCOMING MISSILE TO HAWAII. I HAVE CONFIRMED WITH OFFICIALS THERE IS NO INCOMING MISSILE.

[donnay]

Some heads should roll over this blunder. SMH

[pcosmar]

Opps,,

But the Test to see if Fear-mongering works was successful.

[luctor-et-emergo]

Mistake or a test to see how people respond when they think it's for real?

[nikcers]

Mistake or a test to see how people respond when they think it's for real?
now they won't think its real if they get a real one.

[Raginfridus]

There won't be a real one.

[Danke]

https://thebestpictureproject.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/airplane7.jpg

[Swordsmyth]

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP. kg7MQMzfwcuQmtO60sqWOgEsC7%26pid%3D15.1&f=1

[Swordsmyth]

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[Pauls' Revere]

Some heads should roll over this blunder. SMH

Betcha, no one will be fired, no one held accountable. The union for the government worker will step in and declare that there was not enough adequate training for the person to determine which button is for what. I mean after all, how many times does this person actually drill for this scenario?


I hate it when I'm right... https://nypost.com/2018/01/14/worker-who-sent-out-hawaii-missile-alert-re-assigned/


The Hawaii public employee who plunged the state into chaos by accidentally sending out an incoming-missile emergency alert Saturday has been re-assigned, according to reports.

The unnamed emergency-department worker will not be fired because he made an honest mistake, said Hawaii Emergency Management Agency spokesman Richard Rapoza to the Washington Post.

“Part of the problem was it was too easy — for anyone — to make such a big mistake,” Rapoza said. “We have to make sure that we’re not looking for retribution, but we should be fixing the problems in the system. … I know that it’s a very, very difficult situation for him.”

The agency has already put in place new safeguards to prevent such a misfire — including a “cancel” button that will immediately send out corrective alerts when an erroneous warning is issued, officials said Sunday.

[Swordsmyth]

Betcha, no one will be fired, no one held accountable.

Commendations are more likely.

[Raginfridus]

Of all the ways to die, being vaporized directly underneath a nuke is the most painless. I reckon hiding your kids in storm drains is only prolonging their death in the real thing.

Media hyping this one all day. Somebody pushed the wrong button at twitter. Fucking hilarious.

[nikcers]

When Orson wells played war of the worlds the newspapers hyped it up so people would stop believing the radio.

[Swordsmyth]

The union for the government worker will step in and declare that there was not enough adequate training for the person to determine which button is for what. I mean after all, how many times does this person actually drill for this scenario?

They will go through those motions as part of the cover story but this was not a mistake.

[Raginfridus]

When Orson wells played war of the worlds the newspapers hyped it up so people would stop believing the radio.Yeah, the east coast went postal.

[goldenequity]

lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgCLMI3fgn0

[Raginfridus]

lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgCLMI3fgn0
Fucking A. I feel like laughing more than not when "disaster" strikes the US o'Kwa. Always a motherfucker looking for sympathy.

[Anti Federalist]

Stephen Falken - "What you see up here is a fantasy...a ... a computer enhanced hallucination...you are listening to a machine. Do the world a favor and don't act like one."

Gen Jack Berringer - "Mr President, at this point in time we can not confirm the inbounds. We have reason to believe they do not exist."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWQ1ITS94cA

[Anti Federalist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyFB2p1yrQI

[goldenequity]

They took down the storm drain video.

[sparebulb]

lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgCLMI3fgn0

This Russian is so cool under fire because he was not highly trained and conditioned from a young age to be a helpless pussy by the State skrools.

Also, I'm willing to wager that his self-identified gender matches his genetic and anatomical gender.

[Raginfridus]

https://youtu.be/qQoqnPlG7NE

[eleganz]

They took down the storm drain video.

You mean this one

https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/unsungdamageddwarfrabbit

[goldenequity]

You mean this one

https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/unsungdamageddwarfrabbit

yup. Twats on Twitter were horrified, enraged at 'the very idea!!'... ''They should be arrested!" "the 'stupidity' of stuffing kids into storm drains"...
etc.. etc..
couldn't help thinking of the mother of infant Moses... 'the very IDEA!!' 'How could a mother DO that!!'
Truth?
If you think it's 'REAL'... you have no idea WHAT you'll do... EZ to 'judge' on a social network/group think.

[nikcers]

lol
Such a human reaction LOL its like he smacks his head to make sure he is not asleep in a dream or something.

[phill4paul]

So was it an Obama admin. holdover trying to stir up shit on the current administration?

[Jan2017]

They took down the storm drain video.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/UnsungDamagedDwarfrabbit-size_restricted.gif

[osan]

Some heads should roll over this blunder. SMH

Feh... are you serious?

This will pass into the mists, challenged in no substantive way. Were the people of Hawaii to take real action, I'd amend my opinion. As things stand, I am confident there will be no plate of crow to eat, which is the real pity. You know things are bad when someone such as myself wishes to be justly regarded as the village idiot.

Any heads that roll will be those of relative innocence and no consequence whatsoever to the governing orthodoxy.

Think about it in some depth: if this cannot bring a population to rise in fury to strike down that which so clearly treats them in such shabby disregard, I cannot readily envision what might. Thirty seven minutes of thinking there are warheads inbound must seem like that many eternities. Imagine the thoughts and emotions racing through parents for their children. Those same people will fail to rise and take care of business. I suppose they deserve the abuse of the yokes placed about their necks.

This leads my inner software engineer to wonder how their systems are designed, that a mere changing of the guard could lead to this sort of result. The only other possibility is that the man who set this fiasco into motion did so with knowledge and intent, in which case he should spend many years in Leavenworth doing the rocks thing. From a GUI design standpoint, there should be at least three levels of confirmation, properly formatted, through which one must traverse before such messages go out into the wild. Proper design and implementation of such a filter is not particularly difficult. If it is missing, some very serious questions should arise. If not, well...

[donnay]

Feh... are you serious?

This will pass into the mists, challenged in no substantive way. Were the people of Hawaii to take real action, I'd amend my opinion. As things stand, I am confident there will be no plate of crow to eat, which is the real pity. You know things are bad when someone such as myself wishes to be justly regarded as the village idiot.

Any heads that roll will be those of relative innocence and no consequence whatsoever to the governing orthodoxy.

Think about it in some depth: if this cannot bring a population to rise in fury to strike down that which so clearly treats them in such shabby disregard, I cannot readily envision what might. Thirty seven minutes of thinking there are warheads inbound must seem like that many eternities. Imagine the thoughts and emotions racing through parents for their children. Those same people will fail to rise and take care of business. I suppose they deserve the abuse of the yokes placed about their necks.

This leads my inner software engineer to wonder how their systems are designed, that a mere changing of the guard could lead to this sort of result. The only other possibility is that the man who set this fiasco into motion did so with knowledge and intent, in which case he should spend many years in Leavenworth doing the rocks thing. From a GUI design standpoint, there should be at least three levels of confirmation, properly formatted, through which one must traverse before such messages go out into the wild. Proper design and implementation of such a filter is not particularly difficult. If it is missing, some very serious questions should arise. If not, well...

This is interesting:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg&time_continue=6&v=sp-YEgqu3Tg

[osan]

This is interesting:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg&time_continue=6&v=sp-YEgqu3Tg

Loathe as I am at times to trust Jones, what he says early on about five failsafe measures makes perfect sense. I've worked MILSPEC in the past and imbecilic as most things governmental tend to be, the MILSPEC with which I have had direct contact has been quite good. I can barely imagine that systems such as early warning would be designed so haphazardly as to allow for an error such as this to occur by "accident". That this is being so peddled leaves me inclined to side with Jones. The claim reeks of bullshit.

I will say one other thing about such systems: I cannot for the life of me imagine that such a message could be sent without alerts popping up in splash screens on every terminal in the facility in question. I further cannot imagine that such messages would not show up at DoD and possibly the White House itself. It's not as if this was a report that Sgt. Bilko has a nosebleed.

This is also why the official story about Behghazi is a lie. When an embassy puts out an SOS, every US embassy on the planet gets a copy. Every top-tier military terminal receives it, as does State, DoD, and so on. That is how these sorts of messages operate. Both civilian and military bodies are alerted, worldwide.

That this went on for 37 minutes reeks either of malicious intent, or bottomless incompetence. I am more inclined at this time toward the former.

It will be very interesting to see how Trump responds to this, materially speaking.

[Jan2017]

. . . I further cannot imagine that such messages would not show up at DoD and possibly the White House itself.

It will be very interesting to see how Trump responds to this, materially speaking.

Commander-in-Chief does have to be informed before any defensive use of a nuclear response -
as I understand he would have 3 minutes, once verified, to make a decision with a code he carries.
Possible this is a malicious provocation, and when WH would have been informed will be of interest - someone somewhere tested Trump/WH response (?)


"A new procedure was instituted Saturday requiring two people to sign off before any such cellphone alert is sent."

Hawaii false missile alert: FCC to open probe into mistaken warning
Since 2012, the Wireless Emergency Alerts system has been used more than 33,000 times to warn people across the country of severe weather, evacuation orders, shelter-in place alerts and Amber Alerts, the FCC said in Tuesday's report.

[enhanced_deficit]

If this was done by North Korean or foreign hackers, what would be US response?


https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/comic-riffs/wp-content/uploads/sites/15/2017/08/FIREFURY-hajjaj.jpg


Hawaii Democrat: false missile alarm shows Trump failure on North Korea
Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard says state takes blame for panic but claims it revealed flaws in White House approach to nuclear-armed Pyongyang

The false alarm about a ballistic missile strike that terrified Hawaiians on Saturday showed Donald Trump’s policy on North Korea (https://www.theguardian.com/world/north-korea) is wrong, a Democratic US representative from the state said on Sunday.

“What makes me angry,” Tulsi Gabbard told CNN’s State of the Union, “is that yes this false alarm went out and we have to fix that in Hawaii but really we’ve got to get to the underlying issue here, of why are the people of Hawaii (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/hawaii) and the US facing a nuclear threat coming from North Korea?
“And what is this president doing, urgently, to eliminate that threat?”
Trump was on the golf course in Florida when the alert went out on Saturday morning, Hawaiian time. The alert text read: “Ballistic missile threat inbound to Hawaii. Seek immediate shelter. This is not a drill.”
“It was definitely kind of a panic zone,” Ashley Trask, 39 and from Kauai, told the Guardian. “Everyone knows you have about 15 minutes until detonation and no one knows where it will land.”

Family members “called us and they were crying because they realized they wouldn’t have made it to us”, Trask said.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/14/hawaii-missile-false-alarm-north-korea-trump-tulsi-gabbard





Potentially related

Sony Hackers Flash Disturbing New Warning on Staffers’ Computers

December 11, 2014

Amy Pascal on Whether She's So Damaged She Can No Longer Lead Sony (Exclusive)

(http://www.thewrap.com/amy-pascal-sony-hack-on-whether-shes-so-fatally-damaged-she-can-no-longer-lead-studio-exclusive/)A group purporting to be the Guardians of Peace or #GOP sent a new warning to Sony Pictures Thursday, causing an ominous message to flash across employee computer screens, an individual familiar with the situation tells TheWrap.

This is the fourth known time the #GOP has contacted the studio. The group previously accessed dozens of Sony employee computer screens in late November, displaying a similarly ominous image when staff tried to log in for work. See a screenshot here (http://www.thewrap.com/sony-pictures-computer-system-remains-in-hackers-grip/).

Even more frightening than the menacing images, on December 5 an email was sent threatening the well-being of employees and their families.

http://www.thewrap.com/sony-hackers-...ers-exclusive/ (http://www.thewrap.com/sony-hackers-flash-disturbing-new-warning-on-staffers-computers-exclusive/)



North Korea could respond to a DEVASTATING Donald Trump attack using 'HACKED war plans' (https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/904093/North-Korea-Kim-Jong-un-latest-news-update-Donald-Trump-World-War-3-Pyongyang-USA)

NORTH Korea's potential responses to a devastating attack from Donald Trump have been examined by a former nuclear strategist for the Pentagon who has warned the US against giving kim Jong-un a “bloody nose”.

By Joseph Carey
Sat, Jan 13, 2018

Van Jackson has a history of bracing America for North Korean attacks after spending years “figuring out how to prevent or overcome future attacks”.
The defence expert analysed the available options to the despot leader in the event of an attack.
He explained: “If the United States attacked a North Korean missile site, Kim’s immediate challenge would be trying to determine in real time whether the United States just launched a full-blown war.
“Keeping in mind that North Korean hackers stole alliance war plans last year, Kim will look for specific indicators to quickly render this judgment.”

[Brian4Liberty]

...This leads my inner software engineer to wonder how their systems are designed, that a mere changing of the guard could lead to this sort of result. The only other possibility is that the man who set this fiasco into motion did so with knowledge and intent, in which case he should spend many years in Leavenworth doing the rocks thing. From a GUI design standpoint, there should be at least three levels of confirmation, properly formatted, through which one must traverse before such messages go out into the wild. Proper design and implementation of such a filter is not particularly difficult. If it is missing, some very serious questions should arise. If not, well...

The excuses they are pushing don't make any sense, but that is not unusual when officials are engaged in CYA. The scenario I imagined when I first heard the story was a test gone bad. A situation where they thought they were doing it in a test environment and accidentally some portion was executed in production.

I remember one of my first experiences with Indian programmers. They used the same passwords in all environments (dev, testing environments, production). They hard coded passwords in programs. They used no source control at all. Not hard to see how easy that would be to go wrong. Not saying that this system was outsourced to an Indian company, but for tests to accidentally go against production is plausible.



...I will say one other thing about such systems: I cannot for the life of me imagine that such a message could be sent without alerts popping up in splash screens on every terminal in the facility in question. I further cannot imagine that such messages would not show up at DoD and possibly the White House itself.
...

That this went on for 37 minutes reeks either of malicious intent, or bottomless incompetence. I am more inclined at this time toward the former.

It will be very interesting to see how Trump responds to this, materially speaking.

Judging by some of the leftist talking points this morning, if this was intentional, the intent may have been to get a reaction from Trump, and push the "Trump is unstable" ploy. They are pushing that anyway when discussing this. Paraphrase: "This just highlights how dangerous it is to have an unstable President".

Wouldn't be surprised to hear a report this week from some anonymous source that Trump wanted to fire missiles in response and they had to stop him. That would be a media/leftist dream.

[goldenequity]

A key question 4 me:
Was this a 'local only' (just Hawaii) alert?
if not
Was this a 'Federal' alert.

If 'local' then I can see a screw up (malicious) as possible.
If a Federal alert, then it would have to go thru the 5-stage filter (or whatever).
and
If a Federal alert, then.. Why wasn't/didn't it trigger for Continental US as well?

[Brian4Liberty]

A key question 4 me:
Was this a 'local only' (just Hawaii) alert?
if not
Was this a 'Federal' alert.

If 'local' then I can see a screw up (malicious) as possible.
If a Federal alert, then it would have to go thru the 5-stage filter (or whatever).
and
If a Federal alert, then.. Why wasn't/didn't it trigger for Continental US as well?

It could have been just the local texting alert system that was "accidentally" set off.

[pcosmar]

Not sure what is sadder.
The fact that a bogus alert happened,, or the fact that everyone responded. (they believed it)

:(

[Anti Federalist]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/UnsungDamagedDwarfrabbit-size_restricted.gif

And what is the problem with that?

Assuming you had no reason not to believe that an inbound nuclear warhead was about impact near you?

Seems as good of a "shelter of last resort" as any.

[nikcers]

And what is the problem with that?

Assuming you had no reason not to believe that an inbound nuclear warhead was about impact near you?

Seems as good of a "shelter of last resort" as any.

I dunno death might be preferable to "surviving". I think making light of people doing what they can to survive is terrible though.

https://imagesmtv-a.akamaihd.net/uri/mgid:file:http:shared:mtv.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/giphy-2-1436720710.gif

[osan]

The excuses they are pushing don't make any sense, but that is not unusual when officials are engaged in CYA. The scenario I imagined when I first heard the story was a test gone bad. A situation where they thought they were doing it in a test environment and accidentally some portion was executed in production.

I trust you know there is virtually zero chance of this happening. Even if done in a production environment as a live test, the messages going out would go to a simulator, which is little more than the bit-bucket. That way, the messages that would be otherwise sent to systems that would broadcast them to the world can be intercepted, verified, and validated as proper in format, content, and target distribution.

Prior to executing such a test, which would most likely be conducted at 2AM or thereabouts, the target system - the dummy/simulator/bit-bucket would be confirmed by multiple operators as being the sole target to which messages are going. With something like this, there can be no fucking around. I've been top-dog on a large number of major test initiatives for various large OSSes (Operations Support Systems). There was no making mistakes of the sort I've described. This is trebly the case for live testing of something like early warning systems for what I assume are very obvious reasons.

There are two major reasons for testing such systems: to verify and validate function and do the same with operations training. The former tests the actual system, the latter the people who are to use it. If you are testing the software, generally speaking you do it in a test environment, wholly segregated from any live avenue. If you are testing the crew's abilities, you send dummy messages over the live system at 2AM with many eyes on what actually goes into the wild, with fast-response, single-button contingency plans in place for when something goes wholly awry, as was the case here. If a TINAD message (This Is Not A Drill) goes out by mistake, a single button is all that is necessary to make the proper amends.

This brand of testing is all about contingency planning for when things go wrong in the live environment. Those plans were not in evidence here, which means either they don't exist or they were consciously left at the curb. Either way, I'd say there are some rather thorny questions that need to be answered and warm bodies that need to go to the military barracks for a very long time.

Imagine if someone had committed suicide in fear or despair because of this reckless act? This cannot be tolerated in any measure and IMO the treatments need to be draconian, applied at the highest levels possible.


I remember one of my first experiences with Indian programmers. They used the same passwords in all environments (dev, testing environments, production). They hard coded passwords in programs. They used no source control at all. Not hard to see how easy that would be to go wrong. Not saying that this system was outsourced to an Indian company, but for tests to accidentally go against production is plausible.

I never permitted outsourcing whenever I held that authority, which was not often. However, I did have some measure of success in persuading decision-makers not to hand the life-blood of their operations over to strangers whose loyalties and integrity are questionable at best.


Judging by some of the leftist talking points this morning, if this was intentional, the intent may have been to get a reaction from Trump, and push the "Trump is unstable" ploy. They are pushing that anyway when discussing this. Paraphrase: "This just highlights how dangerous it is to have an unstable President".


Perhaps, but I would not be able to accept this at least until a plausible command source were identified. Who has the power to make this happen and what benefit might they derive from it?

That said, I still find it unlikely because the payoff remains in deep question. The risk to payoff ratio seems very high to me. Not only is a ploy such as this unlikely to make any net hay, the wake leaves someone, somewhere having to answer a host of rather pointed questions.


Wouldn't be surprised to hear a report this week from some anonymous source that Trump wanted to fire missiles in response and they had to stop him. That would be a media/leftist dream.

Now THAT I find plausible. We will see, soon enough.

[osan]

Not sure what is sadder.
The fact that a bogus alert happened,, or the fact that everyone responded. (they believed it)

Well shoot, what would have people do? Yes yes, government cannot be trusted to the door - we all know that, but their fuck ups have never before been of such a nature as this. Even where the prognosis is hopeless, people scramble to survive. I cannot blame them a whit for doing what they did. Can you imagine what it must have been like? In the wake of this, I'd be hell bent to go hunting.

Any clues as to the general response to this? My fear is that the sheep will bleat up a storm and go back to grazing.

[Brian4Liberty]

"Eeny, meeny, miny, moe..."


Hawaii missile alert: How one employee 'pushed the wrong button' and caused a wave of panic

Shortly after 8 a.m. local time Saturday morning, an employee at the Hawaii Emergency Management Agency settled in at the start of his shift. Among his duties that day was to initiate an internal test of the emergency missile warning system: essentially, to practice sending an emergency alert to the public without actually sending it to the public.

It was a drill the agency had started with some regularity in November — around the time Hawaii reinstated its Cold War-era nuclear warning sirens amid growing fears of an attack by North Korea — and so, while the tests were not yet routine enough to be predictable, they were not entirely new either, according to an agency spokesman.

Around 8:05 a.m., the Hawaii emergency employee initiated the internal test, according to a timeline released by the state. From a drop-down menu on a computer program, he saw two options: "Test missile alert" and "Missile alert." He was supposed to choose the former; as much of the world now knows, he chose the latter, an initiation of a real-life missile alert.

"In this case, the operator selected the wrong menu option," HEMA spokesman Richard Rapoza told The Washington Post on Sunday.
...
Part of what worsened the situation Saturday was that there was no system in place at the state emergency agency for correcting the error, Rapoza said. The state agency had standing permission through FEMA to use civil warning systems to send out the missile alert — but not to send out a subsequent false alarm alert, he said.
...
More: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-hawaii-false-missile-alert-20180114-story.html

The motive of the "operator" will never be known, unless they are foolish enough to get caught on tape discussing their motivation.

[timosman]

"Eeny, meeny, miny, moe..."



The motive of the "operator" will never be known, unless they are foolish enough to get caught on tape discussing their motivation.

and the option to send a live alert did not require confirmation?:confused:

[Jan2017]

And what is the problem with that?

Assuming you had no reason not to believe that an inbound nuclear warhead was about impact near you?

Seems as good of a "shelter of last resort" as any.

Of course. People were taking this incoming missile alert seriously, running into shelters as well while sirens going off.

fwiw, one Hiroshima survivor who touched nothing but just walked many miles to her family home witnessed screaming people jumping off bridges into water or drinking water in panic and instantly dying by her account- although another had dived into an indoor swimming pool and was underwater at the instant of detonation and got out - he survived to tell his account as well, with burned skin - but classmates at the side of the pool at the city college did not.

[Brian4Liberty]

and the option to send a live alert did not require confirmation?:confused:

If we believe the official account, then apparently no confirmation required. Probably by request of some know-it-all bureaucrat. The user is always right. ;)

[pcosmar]

Panic based media.. has been prepping folks.

It is just sad,, on many levels.

Sad that anyone would believe it.
Sad that someone would do it.

sad that there was an infinitesimally small chance that it could possibly be true.

and stupid.

Come on.. You all are some of the best minds on the web.
Do any of you seriously believe Kim*** would seriously waste his one and only nuke (assuming one works) on Hawaii ? Just for lulz?
and that assuming it could actually make it that far..

Seriously :(

[goldenequity]

(while watching back-to-back episodes of Malcom in the middle..)
"He pushed the actual button instead of the test button"

Alex Witt AlexWitt
Emergency Administrator Vern Miyagi explains Hawaii's false alarm:
http://www.msnbc.com/weekends-with-alex-witt/watch/emergency-administrator-vern-miyagi-explains-hawaii-s-false-alarm-1136922179660
(wax on, wax off... Mr. Miyagi. srsly? ya gotta listen to the MSNBC vid. hahaha)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPaWMiS6uUg

[Anti Federalist]

Panic based media.. has been prepping folks.

It is just sad,, on many levels.

Sad that anyone would believe it.
Sad that someone would do it.

sad that there was an infinitesimally small chance that it could possibly be true.

and stupid.

Come on.. You all are some of the best minds on the web.
Do any of you seriously believe Kim*** would seriously waste his one and only nuke (assuming one works) on Hawaii ? Just for lulz?
and that assuming it could actually make it that far..

Seriously :(

We don't Pete.

But "we" are a tiny minority.

The vast, vast, vast majority of people have been steeped in "trust and obey authority under all circumstances".

So if "authority" blares through every single electronic communication outlet with a "HIT THE DIRT! INBOUND MISSILES! THIS IS NOT A DRILL!" message, the great vast majority of people are going to believe it and react accordingly, which is to say: "when in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout".

And they will do it again and again and again, no matter how often "authority" is wrong.

All I have to do to prove that is point at the "Class Five Killstorm" hysteria that gets spun up and out of control every time a hurricane or winter storm spools up.

[pcosmar]

We don't Pete.

But "we" are a tiny minority.

The vast, vast, vast majority of people have been steeped in "trust and obey authority under all circumstances".

So if "authority" blares through every single electronic communication outlet with a "HIT THE DIRT! INBOUND MISSILES! THIS IS NOT A DRILL!" message, the great vast majority of people are going to believe it and react accordingly, which is to say: "when in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout".

And they will do it again and again and again, no matter how often "authority" is wrong.

All I have to do to prove that is point at the "Class Five Killstorm" hysteria that gets spun up and out of control every time a hurricane or winter storm spools up.

Chicken Little Syndrome..
but I thought most people grew out of that. :(

[Pauls' Revere]

https://nypost.com/2018/01/14/worker-who-sent-out-hawaii-missile-alert-re-assigned/

The Hawaii public employee who plunged the state into chaos by accidentally sending out an incoming-missile emergency alert Saturday has been re-assigned, according to reports.

The unnamed emergency-department worker will not be fired because he made an honest mistake, said Hawaii Emergency Management Agency spokesman Richard Rapoza to the Washington Post.

“Part of the problem was it was too easy — for anyone — to make such a big mistake,” Rapoza said. “We have to make sure that we’re not looking for retribution, but we should be fixing the problems in the system. … I know that it’s a very, very difficult situation for him.”

The agency has already put in place new safeguards to prevent such a misfire — including a “cancel” button that will immediately send out corrective alerts when an erroneous warning is issued, officials said Sunday.

[AZJoe]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTcgsp-VwAA6vrH.jpg

[timosman]

The agency has already put in place new safeguards to prevent such a misfire — including a “cancel” button that will immediately send out corrective alerts when an erroneous warning is issued, officials said Sunday.

Impressive.

[Swordsmyth]

https://nypost.com/2018/01/14/worker-who-sent-out-hawaii-missile-alert-re-assigned/

The Hawaii public employee who plunged the state into chaos by accidentally sending out an incoming-missile emergency alert Saturday has been re-assigned, according to reports.

Whatever happened to the concept of "FIRED", why do they always get "re-assigned"?

[timosman]

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/hawaiian-emergency-management-officials-hold-interview-post-notes-passwords-computer-screens/


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/hawaii-pw-2-436x600.jpghttp://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/hawaii-pw-3-600x478.jpg

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

Wish someone had video of Jim Carey or Jamie Lee Curtis or any other virtue signaling Hollywood twit running for cover. . .

They were pissed in their TWIT-turd posts, blaming the president cause they no longer feel safe to lounge around on stolen property

[RJB]

Whatever happened to the concept of "FIRED", why do they always get "re-assigned"?

Maybe he's transgender and is getting reassignment surgery?

[shakey1]

From my perspective, all a f'ing accident waiting to happen... whoever is perpetrating this $hit is playing with fire.

[FunkBuddha]

Reading the posts on Reddit from the people in Hawaii was depressing. Maybe it's just the type of people that post on reddit, but people's readiness to just curl up with their family and die just goes to show how we've lost our resilience as a people.

[RJB]

Reading the posts on Reddit from the people in Hawaii was depressing. Maybe it's just the type of people that post on reddit, but people's readiness to just curl up with their family and die just goes to show how we've lost our resilience as a people.

There seems to be a belief that if an A-bomb goes off within a few hundred miles of you, you might as well kill yourself for fear of radiation. People around Hiroshima and Nagasaki rebuilt their cities and went on with life.

Granted radiation is no fun, but neither are the SJWs on the internet and I am still alive.

[timosman]

There seems to be a belief that if an A-bomb goes off within a few hundred miles of you, you might as well kill yourself for fear of radiation. People around Hiroshima and Nagasaki rebuilt their cities and went on with life.

Granted radiation is no fun, but neither are the SJWs on the internet and I am still alive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_Test_Site 65 miles from Las Vegas, over 100 tests.:cool:

[RJB]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_Test_Site 65 miles from Las Vegas, over 100 tests.:cool:

Whoa. There were 7 between 1991 - '92.

[kahless]

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/hawaiian-emergency-management-officials-hold-interview-post-notes-passwords-computer-screens/
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/hawaii-pw-3-600x478.jpg


I was surprised this did not hit the cable news cycle last night. Maybe today and tonight they will pick it up. It is a pretty big deal they exposed their passwords in the media prior to this event.

[nikcers]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_Test_Site 65 miles from Las Vegas, over 100 tests.:cool:
Theres lots of people that got hurt by our nuke testing in NM, Vegas definitely kept the radiation contained.


On August 5, 1963, representatives of the United States, Soviet Union and Great Britain signed the Limited Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, which prohibited the testing of nuclear weapons in outer space, underwater or in the atmosphere.

[nikcers]

Japanese broadcaster issues false North Korea ballistic missile alarm urging people to take shelter just three days after alert caused panic across Hawaii

A Japanese broadcaster has issued a false North Korea ballistic missile alarm just days after a phone alert warning of a possible strike caused panic across Hawaii.

The NHK network sent out the warning urging people to take shelter on its internet and mobile news sites as well as on Twitter today but apologised and corrected the error within minutes.

It was not immediately clear what caused the false alarm which comes amid heightened tensions between Tokyo and Pyongyang.

Last year, Kim Jong-un's regime fired a test missile over the northern Japanese island of Hokkaido, where thousands were awoken by air-raid sirens.

Today's false television alert comes just three days after a blunder caused more than a million people in Hawaii to fear that they were about to be struck by a nuclear missile.

[AZJoe]

Whatever happened to the concept of "FIRED", why do they always get "re-assigned"?

The government class is a protected privileged class. Can you imagine if a private citizen accidentally sent a message to say a hospital or school that there was a bomb there about to go off, and they freaked and evacuated the building, and then the citizen waited nearly 40 minutes to tell them it was a mistake. What would happen to that citizen? Would the government say, oh just a mistake, and protect their identity? They'd be seeking long time prison terms.

Yet, when a member of the elite government class commits the largest bomb scare ever, not only no charges, but no punishment and protects that person, and the complicit superiors that authorized and approved the system that made such a mistake so easy and thus likely.

[AZJoe]

https://nypost.com/2018/01/14/worker-who-sent-out-hawaii-missile-alert-re-assigned/
The agency has already put in place new safeguards to prevent such a misfire — including a “cancel” button that will immediately send out corrective alerts when an erroneous warning is issued, officials said Sunday.

So now Hawaii and FEMA have a confirmation pop-up that asks, "Are you sure you want to send a message to every person in the entire state that their life may be obliterated by incoming missiles in a matter of minutes?"

[VIDEODROME]

http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~cas7/gifs/hawaii.gif

[enhanced_deficit]

Strange coincidence:

Japanese TV sends false alarm over North Korea missile launchKim Hjelmgaard, USA TODAY Published 6:05 a.m. ET Jan. 16, 2018


Hawaii Governor David Ige is promising change, after a false missile alert was sent to cell phones on Saturday, The blunder caused more than a million people in Hawaii to fear that they were about to be struck by a nuclear missile. (Jan. 16) AP

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/01/16/japanese-tv-sends-false-alarm-over-north-korea-missile-launch/1035193001/

[timosman]

So now Hawaii and FEMA have a confirmation pop-up that asks, "Are you sure you want to send a message to every person in the entire state that their life may be obliterated by incoming missiles in a matter of minutes?"

and you thought the government can not do anything right. Give the enough time and money and eventually they will be able to figure it out. :cool:

[AZJoe]

NBC News Crew just happened to be inside the FEMA/HEMA bunker that sent out the false alarm just hours before it went out.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=87&v=oTBjENMf-hM

NBC reports: “Hours before the false alarm sounded with warning of an inbound missile we had exclusive access to the bunker where it was sent from,”

[Brian4Liberty]

NBC News Crew just happened to be inside the FEMA/HEMA bunker that sent out the false alarm just hours before it went out.
...
NBC reports: “Hours before the false alarm sounded with warning of an inbound missile we had exclusive access to the bunker where it was sent from,”

What a coincidence. Also must be a coincidence that they started re-running the movie "Dr. Strangelove" on TV.

Hysterical "Russia collusion" has been replaced with even more hysterical "Trump is crazy and the nukes will fly".

[nikcers]

What a coincidence. Also must be a coincidence that they started re-running the movie "Dr. Strangelove" on TV.

Hysterical "Russia collusion" has been replaced with even more hysterical "Trump is crazy and the nukes will fly".

What a coincidence they keep playing Katy Perry Firework on the radio

So with the new nuclear rules they can nuke another country for hacking right?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxn6aFylZgA

[timosman]

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/meteor-explodes-brilliant-flash-over-michigan-180967861/


The blast caused a magnitude 2.0 earthquake and likely scattered small hunks of space rock in the region


JANUARY 17, 2018

On Tuesday night, the sky over southeast Michigan lit up with a dazzling flash, a loud boom resounded and the ground trembled. Some locals wondered whether the region had been hit by a freak lightning strike, a bomb or even a UFO. But as Lindsey Bever of the Washington Post reports, it was soon determined that the cause of the mysterious flash was a rare astronomical phenomenon: a meteor exploding in Earth’s atmosphere with a fiery blast.

“[T]his was a very slow moving meteor — speed of about 28,000 miles per hour,” NASA’s Meteor Watch writes on its Facebook page. “This fact, combined with the brightness of the meteor (which suggests a fairly big space rock at least a yard across), shows that the object penetrated deep into the atmosphere before it broke apart (which produced the sounds heard by many observers).”

The United States Geological Survey confirmed that a meteor had fallen and reported that the blast had caused a magnitude 2.0 earthquake centered about 5 miles from New Haven, Michigan according to Karma Allen of ABC News. But the brilliant fireball was observed across six states and in Canada.

Meteors are “bits of interplanetary material” that penetrate the Earth’s atmosphere and are heated to incandescence by friction, as NASA explains. (The objects are called “meteoroids” as they fly through space, becoming meteors only as they burn up in the sky.) Meteors enter the atmosphere at least once a month, Bill Cooke, lead for NASA’s Meteoroid Environment Office at the Marshall Space Flight Center in Alabama, tells Bever. But he notes that it is “very rare” for the objects to produce a fireball that is observed by so many people. Most often, bright-burning meteors either break up over sparsely populated areas, are masked by the sun or fall late at night when most people are asleep.

Those lucky enough to observe the unusual event were suitably awed. “All of the sudden, the whole yard started getting brighter, kind of yellowish-orange, like a flashbulb, then got black,” Michigan resident Mike Tarkowski tells Mark Hicks of the Detroit News. “It was something big and it was something up in the air.”

The American Meteor Society says it received more than 355 reports about the fireball. Perhaps unsurprisingly, the “Michigan Meteor” now has its own Twitter account.

The NASA Meteor Watch notes in its Facebook post that the explosion likely produced meteorites—chunks of interplanetary rock and metal that survive the atmospheric plunge and fall to the ground.

“Pieces of an asteroid lying near Detroit?” the group writes. “Let’s see what the meteorite hunters find.”

[AZJoe]

The "False Alarm" (https://www.globalresearch.ca/hawaiis-false-alarm-and-the-advanced-preparations-for-war-against-north-korea/5626356)

The “false alarm” delivered to a population of 1.5 million in the US Pacific island state of Hawaii on Saturday morning has laid bare the clear and present danger of a nuclear war. …

The fact that this event is so rapidly disappearing from the front pages of major newspapers and is being reduced to a secondary story by television news is itself a disturbing indication of how much more is involved in the Hawaii ballistic missile warning than the public is being told.

The corporate media, working in tight coordination with the US government, is in full containment mode. Monday night, all three US television networks broadcast virtually identical reports … the official story that the chaos was caused by the inadvertent error of a single employee. …

The event and its implications are being minimized. No one is going to conduct an investigation and present findings to the public. There will be no televised public hearings before the US Congress.

The explanation being put out by the state and federal authorities, and parroted by the media, fobs off the nuclear war alert as a mere accident triggered by a single careless worker … The unnamed individual supposedly selected the wrong computer menu option … There is no reason that anyone should blindly accept this official story as true. Given the record of the US government in staging provocations and launching wars based upon lies …

How could such an accident happen? .. a major public event is shrouded in secrecy. Why has the individual allegedly responsible for the “accident” not been named? … At the very least, the single individual who is being blamed for the colossal error should have the right to tell his or her side of the story. … that does not explain why it took a full, excruciating 38 minutes for the authorities to send out a follow-up message announcing that the warning had been a “false alarm.”

Even if one were to accept the authorities’ version of events … such an “accident” constitutes a devastating indictment of the criminal indifference of the US ruling establishment toward the lives and safety of the American people. The existence of such a ramshackle system, employing absurdly primitive software and technology as the supposed first line of defense. …

The significance of Saturday’s nuclear war alert becomes clear only within the context of the advanced state of preparations for a US war of aggression against nuclear-armed North Korea.
Monday in a front-page article published by the New York Times. Absurdly, the piece begins, “Across the military, officers and troops are preparing for a war they hope will not come.” Yet the substance of the article makes clear that what is being prepared is not a defense against a North Korean attack, but rather the invasion and conquest of the East Asian country. …

for the first time in years, more than 1,000 US Army reservists have been called up for active duty to man “mobilization centers” used for the rapid movement of troops overseas. The preparations also include a plan to deploy large numbers of Special Operations troops to the Korean Peninsula under the cover of providing security for next month’s Winter Olympics.

these actions begin to resemble the run-up to the US war of aggression against Iraq in 2003 …

That the Times article appeared at all … makes it clear that the military preparations are of such a magnitude that they are becoming broadly known, requiring the “newspaper of record” to attempt to manage the news. …

Trump and his aides reportedly are toying with what has been termed a “bloody nose” attack …

Within this context, the “accidental” nuclear alert in Hawaii emerges as a necessary link in the chain of preparations for a catastrophic war. Was the “false alarm” itself one more military exercise? Were the people of Hawaii used as guinea pigs to test the public reaction …

There is no question that once the incoming missile alert was issued in Hawaii, the government and the military, not only in North Korea, but also in China and Russia, were compelled to make their own rapid estimates as to what it meant and how they should respond. The logical conclusion would be that Washington was staging a false pretext for all-out war. No doubt, military units were placed on alert, weapons were readied or moved and other preparations for possible nuclear conflict were carried out, all under the watchful eyes of US spy satellites, providing intelligence that could prove vital for a planned US invasion of North Korea. …

[TER]

Rumor is the cabal fired a missile from a sub as a false flag to pressure Trump into war with Korea and also take out the Clintons and Huma who were there at the time as they have become great liabilities. Apparently it was shot down and the sub was sunk.

Of course this is all rumor and ‘conspiracy’... unless of course it is proven to be true.

[Swordsmyth]

U.S. Senator Brian Schatz of Hawaii said on Thursday that state and local governments should be prevented from sending missile alerts like the errant one that roiled his state this month.

At a Senate Commerce Committee hearing Thursday, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) disclosed that the employee who sent the errant alert will not speak to investigators.

Schatz, a top Democrat on the committee, said at the hearing he was introducing legislation that would clarify that only the federal government could send nuclear alerts.

The Senate Commerce Committee is planning another hearing about the Hawaii alert, and a U.S. House of Representatives panel will also hold a hearing.

More at: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-missiles-falsealarm-congress/u-s-senator-from-hawaii-states-should-not-send-missile-alerts-idUSKBN1FE1E7

[TER]

I’m not sure what is more unbelievable... that a person “accidentally hit a switch” which sent the emergency message in Hawaii, or that it was Russian bots which were inundating Twitter for the memo to be released...

[timosman]

I’m not sure what is more unbelievable... that a person “accidentally hit a switch” which sent the emergency message in Hawaii, or that it was Russian bots which were inundating Twitter for the memo to be released...

You just need to open your mind and learn to be more accepting of other points of view. :cool:

[r3volution 3.0]

I didn't see this live, but I caught the recap on the news.

...the news didn't start the story by saying it had been a false alarm.

So, for about 3 minutes, I was on the verge of breaking out the emergency whiskey.

[timosman]

I didn't see this live, but I caught the recap on the news.

...the news didn't start the story by saying it had been a false alarm.

So, for about 3 minutes, I was on the verge of breaking out the emergency whiskey.

How hard is it to take the (in)competence of our government into consideration and arrive at the conclusion this could only be explained by a fuck up?:cool:

[Swordsmyth]

Employee Who Sent False Hawaii Ballistic Missile Alert Has Been FiredFollowing the publication of an FCC report on the Hawaii ballistic missile false alarm, the as-yet-unnamed employee has finally been fired. In the days after the epic mistake, the employee was transferred to another department where he wouldn't be near the emergency alert function. The employee's manager had been fired earlier when the employee was moved.
Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-missiles-falsealarm/hawaii-employee-mistook-drill-for-real-missile-attack-u-s-agency-idUSKBN1FJ27H?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social) reported that the FCC blamed the incident on a series of errors, including confusing wording of the original message the employee received, as well as a miscommunication and a lack of supervision of the test drill by the Hawaii Emergency Management Agency.

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-30/hawaii-employee-who-sent-false-missile-alert-thought-attack-was-real

[Brian4Liberty]

Employee Who Sent False Hawaii Ballistic Missile Alert Has Been FiredFollowing the publication of an FCC report on the Hawaii ballistic missile false alarm, the as-yet-unnamed employee has finally been fired. In the days after the epic mistake, the employee was transferred to another department where he wouldn't be near the emergency alert function. The employee's manager had been fired earlier when the employee was moved.
Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-missiles-falsealarm/hawaii-employee-mistook-drill-for-real-missile-attack-u-s-agency-idUSKBN1FJ27H?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social) reported that the FCC blamed the incident on a series of errors, including confusing wording of the original message the employee received, as well as a miscommunication and a lack of supervision of the test drill by the Hawaii Emergency Management Agency.

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-30/hawaii-employee-who-sent-false-missile-alert-thought-attack-was-real

And the story changes again. The most amazing thing that happens with every single one of these type of events is how multiple officials with straight faces and absolute certainty will tell the public and media whatever nonsense is first generated.


"There were no procedures in place to prevent a single person from mistakenly sending a missile alert" in Hawaii, said James Wiley, a cybersecurity and communications reliability staffer at the FCC. There was no requirement to double-check with a colleague or get a supervisor's approval, he said, according to the News Tribute

As the NT explains, citing the FCC statement, the employee heard a recorded message that began by saying "exercise, exercise, exercise" - the script for a drill. Then the recording used language that is typically used for a real threat, not a drill: "this is not a drill." The recording ended by saying "exercise, exercise, exercise."

The worker did not hear the "exercise, exercise, exercise" part of the message and believed the threat was real, according to the employee's statement. He responded by sending an alert.

Additionally, software at Hawaii's emergency agency used the same prompts for both test and actual alerts, and it generally used prepared text that made it easy for a staffer to click through the alerting process without focusing enough on the text of the warning that would be sent.

[timosman]

And the story changes again. The most amazing thing that happens with every single one of these type of events is how multiple officials with straight faces and absolute certainty will tell the pubic and media whatever nonsense is first generated.

This new story would be scary if true. The level of incompetence displayed here is astounding. These morons are in charge of the security of the country? Not sure if Walmart would accept them as greeters.:cool:

[Swordsmyth]

The top two civilian officials of the Hawaii Emergency Management Agency have resigned in a personnel shakeup stemming from the false ballistic missile alert last month that stirred mass hysteria across the state, the agency’s military director said on Tuesday.

More at: https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-missiles-falsealarm-hawaii/hawaiis-top-two-civil-defense-officials-resign-over-false-missile-alert-idUSL2N1PP2OV

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

And the story changes again. The most amazing thing that happens with every single one of these type of events is how multiple officials with straight faces and absolute certainty will tell the public and media whatever nonsense is first generated.

yep, eerily similar to the Jesus Campos incidents.

now with the other 2 resignations, what will be able to be found ?

[timosman]

https://bigislandnow.com/2018/01/14/former-president-clinton-visits-big-island/


January 14, 2018

Former President Bill Clinton is currently enjoying time on the Big Island of Hawai‘i.

http://bigislandnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/clinton-kahele-galutaria-bin.jpg
Sen.Kai Kahele, President Bill Clinton and Sen. Brickwood Galuteria. PC: Sen. Kahele.

Clinton was the 42nd president to serve our country, serving from 1993 to 2001.

Hawai‘i State Sens. Kai Kahele and Brickwood Galuteira got to meet with him on Friday, Jan. 12, 2018, for about 45 minutes.

“We talked about Hawai‘i and how much it has to offer the world and how America could use a little bit of aloha right now,” said Sen. Kahele.

Besides talking with the former president, the Senators gave him a portrait of the famed Polynesian voyaging canoe Hōkūle‘a.

The former president will be on the Big Island until Monday, Jan. 15.

[TER]

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/6df625cb086c3d45f27fcc39d98f71d246c49596c3a8366ef8 64882df6189bf7.png

FOX headline tonight.’

Can’t wait for the truth to this story to come out...

[goldenequity]

Can’t wait for the truth to this story to come out...

Can't vouch for 'truth' but take a l@@k :cool:

http://exonews.org/qanon-corroborates-hawaii-missile-attack/

http://exonews.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/hunt-red-october-hawaii-CIA.jpg

[Swordsmyth]

Can't vouch for 'truth' but take a l@@k :cool:

http://exonews.org/qanon-corroborates-hawaii-missile-attack/

http://exonews.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/hunt-red-october-hawaii-CIA.jpg

http://exopolitics.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Q-Hawaii-FF-Attack-Highlighted-1.jpg


If something concrete doesn't happen before the mid-terms I'm going to become more skeptical and if nothing happens before the 2020 election I will decide until futher notice that we are dealing with this Q:

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP. 9nKJT_d5DgC4rk2r_KInDQHaFj%26pid%3D15.1&f=1


And not this one:


https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP. ZvTVd1eGnQc5_9hdm_h4TwHaE5%26pid%3D15.1&f=1

[Jan2017]

Former President Clinton Visits Big Island


Was that with, or without the wife Hillary Rodham Clinton - she may be a person of interest with a US passport still ?

https://s26.postimg.org/4olebq609/uraniumoneplea.jpg (https://postimages.org/)



Clinton was the 42nd president to serve our country, serving from 1993 to 2001

serving in 1993, July . . . Huh ?

#3 Vince Foster the White House lawyer, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm.
died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide after the terrible depression for those 6 months.

[Jan2017]

In 1996 . . .

#4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman.
Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound.
At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.
The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the Air Traffic controller committed suicide.

[Jan2017]

Former President Clinton Visits Big Island



Was that with, or without the wife Hillary Rodham Clinton - she may be a person of interest with a US passport still ?

https://s26.postimg.org/4olebq609/uraniumoneplea.jpg (https://postimages.org/)




Clinton was the 42nd president to serve our country, serving from 1993 to 2001

#3 Vince Foster the White House lawyer, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm.
died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide after the terrible depression for those 6 months.

#7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide.
Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House.
Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

Bill Clinton groping in the WH Oval Office . . . Huh ?

[Jan2017]

#8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .
Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock.
Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton.
He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

[Jan2017]

#11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994,
in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases,
as if she were going somewhere.
Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit and wife Kathy Ferguson
was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

[Jan2017]

#12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee,
he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

[Jan2017]

#13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994.
His client was a convicted drug distributor.

[Jan2017]

#15 and #16 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General.
Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

[Jan2017]

#17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter, investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority.
He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

[Jan2017]

Former President Clinton Visits Big Island
Was that with, or without the wife Hillary Rodham Clinton - she may be a person of interest with a US passport still ?

Rand and Trump are teeing up for hole 18 . . . a tough shot for the cold case.

https://s26.postimg.org/oaqwsr2c9/randvp01_2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)


https://s26.postimg.org/ucyjj3tbd/trumpgolf.gif (https://postimages.org/)


#18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro was found dead in his Washington DC apartment.
Wilcher had delivered a 105-page affidavit to Attorney General Janet Reno on 5.21.1993.

6.23.1993 Wilcher's badly decomposed body was found in his apartment.
Upon that gruesome discovery his apartment was sealed and searched and all documents removed.

COLD CASE "No cause of death was ever reported by the coroner."

https://s26.postimg.org/4olebq609/uraniumoneplea.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jan2017]

You were so close Hillary -
now close to turning yourself in at the Hilo, Hawai'i airport or are you getting on an international flight to bail out?

It would have been so great - Bush41, Bush43, Clinton42, Clinton45 . . . huh?

https://s26.postimg.org/oh9nshznt/XDm1-600x391.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jan2017]

Ready for the next 18 holes ? (in the temple Hilly, you know you deserve it)

https://s26.postimg.org/ucyjj3tbd/trumpgolf.gif (https://postimages.org/)

[Jan2017]

#19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. jumped to his death from his Arlington ,Virginia apartment balcony
on August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

[Jan2017]

#20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang.
Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, naked body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

COLD CASE: Cause of death: Unknown.

[Swordsmyth]

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[Jan2017]

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Haha . . . now on hole 21, point that up against your temple Hilly - or - get on a plane to escape (?)

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#21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance,
died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

[Jan2017]

#23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas . . .
He was Medellín cartel pilot turned informant.

Death was no accident.

[Jan2017]

#26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.

[Jan2017]

#27 and #28 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case.
Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation.
A controversial case, the initial report of death said - "due to falling asleep on railroad tracks."

Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks.
Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.


On Sunday, August 23, 1987, at around 4:00 a.m., the bodies of the two boys were spotted by the crew of a Union Pacific locomotive near Crooked Creek trestle in Alexander (Pulaski and Saline counties) (http://www.encyclopediaofarkansas.net/encyclopedia/entry-detail.aspx?entryID=6419). The bodies were lying between the tracks, wrapped in a pale green tarp; there was a gun nearby. The train was unable to avoid running over the bodies. The train’s crew immediately reported the incident to railroad officials and to local law enforcement at Benton (Saline County) (http://www.encyclopediaofarkansas.net/encyclopedia/entry-detail.aspx?entryID=979), where the train had come to a full stop. By 4:40 a.m., local and state police had arrived at the scene and begun investigating. At first, local officials treated the incident like an apparent suicide despite the objections of the train crew. Reportedly, no tarp was found by the police, but they did take in a shattered .22 caliber rifle as evidence.

[Jan2017]

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
#28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.
#29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
#30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
#31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
#32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes”.
#34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

[devil21]

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If something concrete doesn't happen before the mid-terms I'm going to become more skeptical and if nothing happens before the 2020 election I will decide until futher notice that we are dealing with this Q:


I'm already seeing responses to questions about why nothing is happening (despite all the Q crap), on other forums, contain something akin to "well, Trump can't do anything until the end of his first term. Be patient!" :rolleyes:

That's three years away. I expect it'll always be some version of draining the swamp soooooooon, while the noose on the people gets tighter and tighter. 'House of Cards' seems to have just switched from Netflix to CSPAN.

[Swordsmyth]

I'm already seeing responses to questions about why nothing is happening (despite all the Q crap), on other forums, contain something akin to "well, Trump can't do anything until the end of his first term. Be patient!" :rolleyes:

That's three years away. I expect it'll always be some version of draining the swamp soooooooon, while the noose on the people gets tighter and tighter. 'House of Cards' seems to have just switched from Netflix to CSPAN.

Half of me agrees with you, but the other half points out all the weird things that I never would have believed until they happened.

But the mid-terms are vital and so is 2020, if Q and friends are real they MUST do something concrete and earth shattering to affect them, failure to do so will prove that the Q Continuum is just toying with us.

[devil21]

Half of me agrees with you, but the other half points out all the weird things that I never would have believed until they happened.

But the mid-terms are vital and so is 2020, if Q and friends are real they MUST do something concrete and earth shattering to affect them, failure to do so will prove that the Q Continuum is just toying with us.

Keep in mind that the best disinfo is 80% truth with 20% misdirection and distraction. I've thought that "QAnon" is GCHQ (or perhaps In-Q-tel/CIA, basically the same entity as GCHQ), who would know what the future holds. How better to keep the sheep waiting for Trump to save them than to provide some truth to build credibility and trust, like you have seen, but then misdirecting away from the 20% that Trump is not actually going to save them?

[timosman]

Keep in mind that the best disinfo is 80% truth with 20% misdirection and distraction. I've thought that "QAnon" is GCHQ (or perhaps In-Q-tel/CIA, basically the same entity as GCHQ), who would know what the future holds. How better to keep the sheep waiting for Trump to save them than to provide some truth to build credibility and trust, like you have seen, but then misdirecting away from the 20% that Trump is not actually going to save them?

Why would anybody, except Jesus, want to save the sheep?:cool:

[Swordsmyth]

Why would anybody, except Jesus, want to save the sheep?:cool:

Because we are commanded to be like him.

Also sheep are cute and cuddly and their wool is valuable.

[devil21]

Why would anybody, except Jesus, want to save the sheep?:cool:

Jobs programs for shepherds.

[nikcers]

Why would anybody, except Jesus, want to save the sheep?:cool:

Everyone thought we elected a sheep. A sheep wouldn't lead other sheep to slaughter.

[Jan2017]

#35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.

Died May 20, 1993. According to NY Times “One of several military helicopters in the Presidential fleet crashed today, killing all four crew members aboard,
the authorities said” # 36—Captain Scott J. Reynolds—Died in the same accident

Two rounds of golf and time for President Clinton45 to get on Air Force One outta here . . . or not ?


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