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brumans
12-11-2007, 08:39 PM
Campaign adds offline donations -- 11.355 million thus far!

http://www.ronpaulgraphs.com

Jobarra
12-11-2007, 08:40 PM
I guess it was offline donations. Is there a minibomb going on :D

Last I looked it was 10.85M or so.

OptionsTrader
12-11-2007, 08:40 PM
Think we'll made the Q3 goal of 12 million :D

December 16th is going to be awesome.

Revolutn
12-11-2007, 08:40 PM
Sweeet.

wsc321
12-11-2007, 08:41 PM
Dittos... what happened?! :)

brumans
12-11-2007, 08:41 PM
I think we may have a chance of raising 20 million this quarter... that would be, as Wolf Blitzer says "truly amazing"

BLS
12-11-2007, 08:42 PM
Hey we'll take a half million!!!

raystone
12-11-2007, 08:42 PM
yes !

asmartchimp
12-11-2007, 08:43 PM
Nice!

Jobarra
12-11-2007, 08:43 PM
Too bad they didn't wait until tomorrow so we could beat Huckabee's bomb without actually donating :D

Chernitsky
12-11-2007, 08:43 PM
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Chibioz
12-11-2007, 08:44 PM
Wow, as of right now we are $644,292.38 from 12 million. At the beginning of the 4th quarter, even in my most optimistic expectations I didn't think we would be doing as good as we are doing now.

Jordan
12-11-2007, 08:45 PM
Wow, as of right now we are $644,292.38 from 12 million. At the beginning of the 4th quarter, even in my most optimistic expectations I didn't think we would be doing as good as we are doing now.

And the teaparty coming up.

idiom
12-11-2007, 08:45 PM
pity it didn't wait till the morning of the 16th...

Ah well.

derdy
12-11-2007, 08:46 PM
To be honest, after failing to 'fill the quill' one time, I thought, "No way we're getting $12 mil."

Now, with the 16th yet to come, it appears we are going to utterly destroy that goal!:eek:

brumans
12-11-2007, 08:46 PM
You know, a few days ago I went on ronpaulgraphs.com and right when I went for it, just for like a fraction of a second I seriously say 32 as the front number (32,000,000 something), then it went back to normal. Maybe I saw a glimpse of the future... but that just seems like a ridiculously high number. Hmm... now that I write it might be what the total donations will be for all the quarters... maybe I am psychic! We will see :p

AlexMerced
12-11-2007, 08:46 PM
yeah, honestly I was very skeptical about 12mil before nov 5th... wow... pat on the back to all of you

PatriotOne
12-11-2007, 08:47 PM
That's a great haul for off-line donations. Anyone remember when they were aded the last time? A week ago? Two weeks ago?

Jobarra
12-11-2007, 08:49 PM
I have no problems believing a 20M quarter right now, but I was thinking we would do that back when we were at 9M. I truly don't know what to think now other than that the teaparty is going to be WAY more successful than I am thinking. I'm thinking 11.7M, but I would love to be surprised.

Johnnybags
12-11-2007, 08:49 PM
he only has 5 percent in the polls? Hucks got 32? Either we are incredibly wealthy donors or Huck is drawing pennies from the entire population of Arkansas? Something is rotten in Denmark, methinks its the polls. No such thing has ever happened in history. Never let the Pravda brigade snow you.

LibertyEagle
12-11-2007, 08:49 PM
One of the things we have in our favor is that now, Americans living abroad can donate. I would imagine there are quite a few who will do so on 12/16. I sure hope so. December 16 needs to blow everyone's minds away. In my opinion, this is make it or break it day.

Keep spreading the word.

dirka
12-11-2007, 08:49 PM
Holy Crapola! I just noticed that too, It was at around $10.8 million, then SNAP! it jumped to $11.4!!!

It must be divine intervention telling us that HUCKABEE doesn't have a prayer!!!

Visual
12-11-2007, 08:51 PM
To be honest, after failing to 'fill the quill' one time, I thought, "No way we're getting $12 mil."

Now, with the 16th yet to come, it appears we are going to utterly destroy that goal!:eek:

I remember thinking getting another 5 mil would be tough. Little did I know we were going to double 3rd quarter in 2 months, nearly raising 5 mil in 2 days.

Jimmy
12-11-2007, 08:52 PM
Well the campaign said they needed 12 MILLION TO WIN....Well..WIN!! :D:D

user
12-11-2007, 08:53 PM
I'm with the others who thought $12 million was a little optimistic. I'm happy to be wrong about that.

user
12-11-2007, 08:55 PM
The Tea Party combined with final Q4 fundraising numbers should make it very difficult for the MSM to continue ignoring us.

mmarcman22
12-11-2007, 08:56 PM
Awesome! Where ever the additional money came from, lets find some more!

trey4sports
12-11-2007, 08:56 PM
the polls are not rigged, thats my personal belief. however i know they dont capture but about 1/3 or so of Dr. Pauls base. they only call registered republicans who have voted before. this doesnt include recent ex-dems who change teams, new young republicans, indepents, those who have never voted, and all of these make up dr. pauls base. so a nat'l poll or even a local poll really (and i know its cliche) means very little.

Jobarra
12-11-2007, 08:57 PM
The Tea Party combined with final Q4 fundraising numbers should make it very difficult for the MSM to continue ignoring us.
I'm hoping you won't be surprised if they do.

That's okay though(well, not okay, but this makes me feel better :D ). With all the grassroots support that Dr. Paul gets, I have no doubt that he has actually raised more 'money' than all the other candidates.

conner_condor
12-11-2007, 08:59 PM
RP graphs needs updated here.

rasheedwallace
12-11-2007, 09:00 PM
so great.

szczebrzeszyn
12-11-2007, 09:00 PM
You know, a few days ago I went on ronpaulgraphs.com and right when I went for it, just for like a fraction of a second I seriously say 32 as the front number (32,000,000 something), then it went back to normal. Maybe I saw a glimpse of the future...
32,123,456.78

Ron Paul Fan
12-11-2007, 09:01 PM
We will raise $20 million this quarter and SHOCK THE WORLD on DECEMBER 16TH and when the official FEC numbers come out in early January. Huckabee will raise 1/4th-1/3rd of what we do! We will be #1 in fundraising among Republicans this quarter, and #3 overall behind Hillary and Obama! And our money is raised mainly by ordinary people! Go Ron Paul!

Jobarra
12-11-2007, 09:02 PM
Each quarter has grown by about 400%. Imagine if he had two years to do this :D

Henry
12-11-2007, 09:03 PM
You know, a few days ago I went on ronpaulgraphs.com and right when I went for it, just for like a fraction of a second I seriously say 32 as the front number (32,000,000 something), then it went back to normal. Maybe I saw a glimpse of the future... but that just seems like a ridiculously high number. Hmm... now that I write it might be what the total donations will be for all the quarters... maybe I am psychic! We will see :p


I saw the same thing several times. I'm not making a call on this one, but however I saw it a bunch of times. :eek::eek::eek::eek:

Menthol Patch
12-11-2007, 09:03 PM
We can raise ten million on the Tea Party, a couple million more by the end of the month and end up with 24 million dollars!!!

shepburn
12-11-2007, 09:08 PM
I think we may have a chance of raising 20 million this quarter... that would be, as Wolf Blitzer says "truly amazing"

of course we do! I'm convinced that the 16th will blow us all away! Just look at how little has been raise during the last week. It's the calm before the hurricane!

We've have grown so much since Nov 5th. Everyone will want to be apart of history!

I'm going to go out on a limb and project we will hit $20M for the Q before the sun goes down in the east coast on the 16th!

user
12-11-2007, 09:10 PM
I'm hoping you won't be surprised if they do.

That's okay though(well, not okay, but this makes me feel better :D ). With all the grassroots support that Dr. Paul gets, I have no doubt that he has actually raised more 'money' than all the other candidates.
I wouldn't be, that's why I said "difficult". :D

Goldwater Conservative
12-11-2007, 09:12 PM
he only has 5 percent in the polls? Hucks got 32? Either we are incredibly wealthy donors or Huck is drawing pennies from the entire population of Arkansas? Something is rotten in Denmark, methinks its the polls. No such thing has ever happened in history. Never let the Pravda brigade snow you.

He gets by far the greatest percentage of funds raised from <$200 donations and by far the least from >$2000 donations, and that includes Huckleberry. I think the polls understate Paul's real level of support for a number of reasons, but I think the biggest difference between him and the rest is that his supporters will turn out in greater percentages, which I think the amount of donors would attest to (I can't wait to see what the Q4 figures are).

Troyhand
12-11-2007, 09:24 PM
Huckabuck: Hello God?
God: Yes, Michael. (click-clickety-click-click-click)
Huckabuck: I told everyone you endorse me for President.
God: Uh-huh. (clickety-click-clickety-click-click-click)
Huckabuck: I know it was wrong, but that Paul guy is making noise and I need to do something to reassure my flock.
God: Uh-huh. (click-clickety-clickety-click-click-clickety)
Huckabuck: You still love me, don't you God?
God: I love all my children. Goodbye, Michael, (click-clickety-click-click....CLICK)
Huckabuck: bye.
.......
Operator: Thank you, God, for your donation of half a million dollars to RonPaul2008. Please check your email for a receipt. Have a wonderful day.
God: And you as well, my child.

Buzz
12-11-2007, 09:27 PM
Lol

MadViking10
12-11-2007, 09:29 PM
nevermind

parke
12-11-2007, 09:33 PM
One of the things we have in our favor is that now, Americans living abroad can donate. I would imagine there are quite a few who will do so on 12/16. I sure hope so. December 16 needs to blow everyone's minds away. In my opinion, this is make it or break it day.

Keep spreading the word.

Im with you 100%. If we dont beat the talking heads expectations that we will just go away, the MSM certainly will bury us.

If we blow it out of the water, it will solidify Paul for the nomination. Imagine the headlines after the quarter.. when we outraise EVERY GOP candidate.. (combined)

And we gots a blimp!!!:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

RCA
12-11-2007, 09:33 PM
The question now is how close to 12 million can we get BEFORE the Tea Party?

mrd
12-11-2007, 09:35 PM
Well the campaign said they needed 12 MILLION TO WIN....Well..WIN!! :D:D
FTW!!!

JustAnotherV
12-11-2007, 09:38 PM
My head hurts. I saw this and thought it had jumped but then got dizzy becasue I couldn't remeber the numbers from earlier today. This graph seems to thing we've been at this level for a few days:

http://www.ronpaulgraphs.com/full_quarter.html

Chibioz
12-11-2007, 09:39 PM
The offline donations inflate the bottom of the graph so there is no way to tell what time they were added from the graph

akalucas
12-11-2007, 09:42 PM
Historically does anyone know how well candidates do in donations in 4th quarter compared to 3rd quarter?

constitutional
12-11-2007, 09:43 PM
I hope we hit $20 million this 16th. :)

Naraku
12-11-2007, 09:44 PM
There should be a goal of reaching $11.5 million before December 16th.

That way $12 million can be beat in the first hour of the 16th. After that it will be nothing but gravy.

Dan D.
12-11-2007, 09:47 PM
Historically does anyone know how well candidates do in donations in 4th quarter compared to 3rd quarter?
Better, but I'm not sure by how much. Q3 is usually the worst. That said, we're above everyone's last quarter numbers before the 16th, so if the competition has a mediocre quarter, we could end up on top.

JustAnotherV
12-11-2007, 09:47 PM
[QUOTE=parke;579511]Imagine the headlines after the quarter.. when we outraise EVERY GOP candidate.. (combined)
QUOTE]


With the exception of Romney donating himself into the lead again, I'm reasonably sure ~ 15 Mil will top any GOP candidate.

We need a new goal:

Try to outraise HILLARY AND OBAMA.

JustAnotherV
12-11-2007, 09:49 PM
The offline donations inflate the bottom of the graph so there is no way to tell what time they were added from the graph


It all makes sense now. ;) :P

BlueGecko
12-11-2007, 09:50 PM
Ha ha here comes 25 million for the quarter

Hurricane Bruiser
12-11-2007, 09:53 PM
Let the newbies who find Ron Paul add to his funds between now and the 16th. We need to make the 16th memorable. I wonder how many donors we will actually have? I'll be in a Executive Committee all day and so will miss out on watching the money flow in. :( I can't wait.

MooCowzRock
12-11-2007, 09:54 PM
Haha, I got on the main website and I was like "Holy shit where did we get 500k from all of a sudden!!"

KramerDSP
12-11-2007, 09:58 PM
I'm with you. $25 Million Dollars is where we'll be at on January 1, 2008. We'll break the 12 Million "to win" thermometer, thus setting off fireworks for 24 hours on the site, as the number goes higher and higher and higher. I say we get 11 million dollars for the tea party, and then $750,000 the day after that, bringing us to $23,259,000.00 on December 18 with 12 days left to get the extra 1.75 million.

In Q1, 640k was raised. In Q2, 2.4 Million. In Q3, 5.2 million dollars. And in Q4, 25 million dollars. :eek:

He's catchin' on, I'm telling ya! :D

Troyhand
12-11-2007, 10:04 PM
I'd like to know the tread for offline donations. How long did it take to collect this half million? How often do they post these amounts to the website meter? When was the last time they added offline donations to the meter?
If this half mill came in the last few weeks. That means the people who aren't regularly online are beginning to hear about Dr. Paul and like what he's saying. This would be a great indicator on how well the grassroots effort is paying off. The word is spreading!

MGreen
12-11-2007, 10:20 PM
Wow, that is a great bump in fundraising. It's encouraging to know that Paul's fundraising is growing in terms of more traditional means, and not just on the internet.

FreedomProsperityPeace
12-11-2007, 10:22 PM
Will the campaign know how to spend that much money that fast? :D

Richandler
12-11-2007, 10:25 PM
Will the campaign know how to spend that much money that fast? :D

It's all in the timing.

Jobarra
12-11-2007, 10:28 PM
It's all in the timing.
The sad thing is how much money the Democrats have on hand. The Republicans have been spending left and right except for Paul. If I remember correctly, Obama and Hillary have at least about 30M onhand EACH. I didn't remember to look, but this might just be general election money. On the other hand, those are both significant figures to have in reserve.

Edit to add: okay, opensecrets.org shows Hillary at 50M cash ONHAND. Obama has 36M. This is I guess at the end of Q3. I wonder what all of this is going to look like at the end of Q4.

murrayrothbard
12-11-2007, 10:32 PM
In Q1, 640k was raised. In Q2, 2.4 Million. In Q3, 5.2 million dollars. And in Q4, 25 million dollars. :eek:

He's catchin' on, I'm telling ya! :D

Well in that case I hope we are looking at $625 million for Q1 2008!!! :D

Liberty Star
12-11-2007, 10:32 PM
I guess it was offline donations. Is there a minibomb going on :D

Last I looked it was 10.85M or so.

I thought it was another money grenade day quietly :)


This is going to provide a nice launch pad for Dec 16 tea party revolt.

BlutStein
12-11-2007, 10:33 PM
Best campaign ad ever is if they used our "surplus" to pay down some government interest so that the government could save even more money down the line. I'm just talking out my *bleep* here and don't really know how that'd work, but it'd show that our government's problems aren't partisan issues and things have to be addressed.

That or he could buy a bunch of bullet proof vests for our troops saying "I'm trying to bring you home but in the mean time I'll try to keep you alive".

Maybe good, maybe bad...but the one thing that I know for sure is that I'm tired.

Mark Rushmore
12-11-2007, 10:39 PM
That or he could buy a bunch of bullet proof vests for our troops saying "I'm trying to bring you home but in the mean time I'll try to keep you alive".

Not half bad.

Jobarra
12-11-2007, 10:40 PM
Ugh, looking at opensecrets I see how hard it is to take on an incumbent. My representative for 2006:
http://opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.asp?CID=N00025330&cycle=2006

33% of his money was from business PACs? He got around $1M total cash. His Democrat opponent only got 14K? Dang. And he apparently starts his 08 campaign with the 362K he had leftover. Yeesh. No wonder incumbants are so hard to get out. I'm guessing we'll need to continue to fund raise across the country for local campaigns if we want to change the makeup of the Senate and the House :(

Edit to Add: We really need to focus at first on getting like 10-12 "Ron Paul" candidates into the House and get them on a committee. Then you can actually get bills out of committee I would think and "constitutional" Representatives would have no excuses for bills that make it out of committee to get approved. If they refuse it, it gives ammo for more candidates who are truly working for the Constitution to replace those who only give the Constitution a slight glance before trouncing over it.

RonPaulFanInGA
12-11-2007, 10:41 PM
Too bad they didn't wait until tomorrow so we could beat Huckabee's bomb without actually donating :D

That's exactly what I was thinking.

RevolutionSD
12-11-2007, 10:42 PM
I'm with you. $25 Million Dollars is where we'll be at on January 1, 2008. We'll break the 12 Million "to win" thermometer, thus setting off fireworks for 24 hours on the site, as the number goes higher and higher and higher. I say we get 11 million dollars for the tea party, and then $750,000 the day after that, bringing us to $23,259,000.00 on December 18 with 12 days left to get the extra 1.75 million.

In Q1, 640k was raised. In Q2, 2.4 Million. In Q3, 5.2 million dollars. And in Q4, 25 million dollars. :eek:

He's catchin' on, I'm telling ya! :D

Can we PLEASE get some more blimps for this $25M?

Highstreet
12-11-2007, 10:42 PM
he only has 5 percent in the polls? Hucks got 32? Either we are incredibly wealthy donors or Huck is drawing pennies from the entire population of Arkansas? Something is rotten in Denmark, methinks its the polls. No such thing has ever happened in history. Never let the Pravda brigade snow you.

RP HQ should offer the first Investigative Journalist to find out the answer to this $1 Mill of the War Chest.

Libertarian
12-11-2007, 10:44 PM
Why doesn't the campaign update their donation goals for the year on the website? 12 million will be passed within 1 hour on December 16th, and I'm afraid when more casual people check out his site to see what the hype is about, they will figure "Heck, he has already met his goal for the year...He doesn't need my $$". And they won't donate...or they may only give $10 instead of $100.

12 million is history. We should be aiming for 20 million!

boondoggle
12-11-2007, 10:50 PM
Why doesn't the campaign update their donation goals for the year on the website? 12 million will be passed within 1 hour on December 16th, and I'm afraid when more casual people check out his site to see what the hype is about, they will figure "Heck, he has already met his goal for the year...He doesn't need my $$". And they won't donate...or they may only give $10 instead of $100.

12 million is history. We should be aiming for 20 million!

Agree, agree, agree, agree.

user
12-11-2007, 10:51 PM
Why doesn't the campaign update their donation goals for the year on the website? 12 million will be passed within 1 hour on December 16th, and I'm afraid when more casual people check out his site to see what the hype is about, they will figure "Heck, he has already met his goal for the year...He doesn't need my $$". And they won't donate...or they may only give $10 instead of $100.

12 million is history. We should be aiming for 20 million!
I hope they change it or at least add to it as soon as $12 million is reached.

lawdida
12-11-2007, 10:55 PM
We can raise ten million on the Tea Party, a couple million more by the end of the month and end up with 24 million dollars!!!

This is what I want to see, double the goal. I think we can do 20 but I'm not sure about 24. That would be a lot in one month (most of it coming after the 15th). I hope it happens though!

louisiana4liberty
12-11-2007, 10:56 PM
I agree.

That 12 million dollar mark on the bar needs to be lowered. 12 million will be crushed very quickly...we need to start shooting for 20 million. The stakes are getting high and we are too close to the first primaries to set our targets too low.

michaelwise
12-11-2007, 10:57 PM
It was probably the Stephanopolas contribution, conceding the election.

axiomata
12-11-2007, 10:58 PM
I hope they change it or at least add to it as soon as $12 million is reached.
I'm sure they will, hopefully the day before the Tea Party.

Jobarra
12-11-2007, 10:59 PM
Guys, by the time the 'stragglers' come in, the total will probably be around $15-16M. I think any reasonable person who sees that will say "Holy Cow, they're blowing the target out of the water! I need to donate!"

Falseflagop
12-11-2007, 11:21 PM
12 mil right around the corner

NewEnd
12-11-2007, 11:23 PM
duplicate
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=51839

:)

Pete Kay
12-11-2007, 11:23 PM
When Monday the 17th comes around we will be at 18 million or higher. Think about how good that will feel. :D

Tedhunter
12-11-2007, 11:24 PM
How long had those offline donations been piling up?

Cyclone
12-11-2007, 11:25 PM
And why the heck didn't they wait until the 16th to dump it in?

Liberty Star
12-11-2007, 11:27 PM
Why doesn't the campaign update their donation goals for the year on the website? 12 million will be passed within 1 hour on December 16th, and I'm afraid when more casual people check out his site to see what the hype is about, they will figure "Heck, he has already met his goal for the year...He doesn't need my $$". And they won't donate...or they may only give $10 instead of $100.

12 million is history. We should be aiming for 20 million!

Saying that RP raised $X Millions above the target $12 Million is a great story. Let it go off charts.

Exceed the goals, set new mental goal perhaps.

Naraku
12-12-2007, 12:01 AM
I don't think anyone's going to give up after $12 million is reached.

I also don't think it's going to stop at $18 million. Watch for $30 million I'm serious. November 5th saw twice as many donors as pledges and I think this time it's going to be even more extreme. I'm think three times as many people at least, maybe four times. There's also going to be a large amount being spent because more money is being saved up.

One way to think of it:

30,000 pledges.

$4.38 million raised on November 5th with 18,000 pledges.

18 days to prepare for November 5th.

39 days to prepare for December 16th.

About 1.6 times as many pledges and 2.16 times as many days. That's around $15 million right there, not considering the possibility of twice as many unpledged donors in relation to pledges. I think four times as much on November 5th isn't unrealistic and $20 million is a distinct possibility.

weagle
12-12-2007, 12:04 AM
And why the heck didn't they wait until the 16th to dump it in?

According to the charts it only counts toward the day it was received by the campaign, not the day it was added to the online total.

So if they would have dumped that money on the 16th it would be an artificial inflation that would not be truly representative of 16th donations.

Paulitician
12-12-2007, 12:30 AM
It still would have been a great morale booster.

voisine
12-12-2007, 01:41 AM
Edit to add: okay, opensecrets.org shows Hillary at 50M cash ONHAND. Obama has 36M. This is I guess at the end of Q3. I wonder what all of this is going to look like at the end of Q4.

I bet RP isn't so far off if you subtract what it would cost either of those two to duplicate the efforts of the grassroots. What would it cost them to hire 100,000 part time volunteers?

Jobarra
12-12-2007, 01:43 AM
Oh I agree. I made that point in another thread somewhere. All of this unpaid support is probably worth more than what the other candidates have pulled in. TV/radio ads are nice, but if you have just 1,000 dedicated workers stomping the ground for you in a state, you WILL have more votes. I don't see the other candidates having anywhere near the money to pay that many people to do it in each state.

libertythor
12-12-2007, 02:33 AM
One of the things we have in our favor is that now, Americans living abroad can donate. I would imagine there are quite a few who will do so on 12/16. I sure hope so. December 16 needs to blow everyone's minds away. In my opinion, this is make it or break it day.

Keep spreading the word.

I am an American living abroad and have donated since September. ME becomes "Mexico". LOL On the website, I have seen Tokyo, IN and Helsinki, FL. LMAO IN would be a substitute for "International" I guess.


But it is nice that they allow the fields to be filled properly now.

robert4rp08
12-12-2007, 04:19 AM
Ahhhh, I knew there had to be a huge jump... or that my memory had failed me.