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DamianTV
01-11-2018, 04:41 PM
https://youtu.be/64gTjdUrDFQ

https://www.infowars.com/bombshell-undercover-video-twitter-engineers-admit-censoring-conservatives/


In what represents a chokeslam of an exposé, Project Veritas has released undercover video of Twitter engineers admitting that they deliberately censor conservative opinions and are implementing a way of relegating “shitty people” so their content is shadow banned

In the video, current and former Twitter employees confirm virtually everything that conservatives have long suspected about the left-wing company silencing people on the right.

Key quotes include;

Olinda Hassan, Policy Manager for Twitter Trust and Safety, admits that Twitter is implementing software algorithms that down rank conservatives so “shitty people to not show up” on people’s timelines.

“The idea of a shadow ban is that you ban someone but they don’t know they’ve been banned, because they keep posting and no one sees their content,” says former Twitter software engineer Abhinov Vadrevu. “So they just think that no one is engaging with their content, when in reality, no one is seeing it.”

Parnay Singh, Twitter Direct Messaging Engineer, reveals that the company’s machine learning algorithms are programmed with “five thousand keywords to describe a redneck,” which include words like Trump, America, as well as images of the U.S. flag, guns and Christian crosses and these terms are used to delete “bot” accounts as well as down rank conservatives.

Singh also revealed that the U.S. government routinely pressures Twitter to take down Julian Assange’s account and that this is the reason he isn’t verified Singh also says that governments ask Twitter to remove accounts belonging to other public figures because they don’t like their political views.

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Brian4Liberty
01-13-2018, 06:29 PM
Twitter Engineers To "Ban a Way of Talking" Through "Shadow Banning" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64gTjdUrDFQ)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64gTjdUrDFQ


In the latest undercover Project Veritas video investigation, eight current and former Twitter employees are on camera explaining steps the social media giant is taking to censor political content that they don’t like.

Brian4Liberty
01-13-2018, 06:31 PM
You ever get the feeling no one sees your tweets? You probably have been shadow-banned.

Raginfridus
01-13-2018, 06:51 PM
Don't use it?

specsaregood
01-13-2018, 07:09 PM
The easiest trick in the book to get hot chicks with undercover cameras to chat up computer nerds and get them to divulge secrets as they try to impress. poor bastards

timosman
01-13-2018, 07:13 PM
The easiest trick in the book to get hot chicks with undercover cameras to chat up computer nerds and get them to divulge secrets as they try to impress. poor bastards

and it never occurs to them if it sounds too good to be true it probably is. :cool:

Brian4Liberty
01-13-2018, 07:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxvWvroiV10

Brian4Liberty
01-13-2018, 07:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bl1U5ufIV4

Slave Mentality
01-14-2018, 09:44 AM
Don't use it?

Yes. I don’t understand why people frequent companies that are known for this. Also see Facefuck. I don’t see your tweets Brian. The only tweets I see are reposts on here and I dislike that enough, especially when it’s some dumb somebitch no one knows.

TheCount
01-14-2018, 11:41 AM
Oh hey it's Project Veritas. As always, watch the whole video for the whole story. The conversation in question starts at 14:35. It's the exact opposite of the impression that they are trying to give.


Twitter engineer: Every single conversation is going to be rated by a machine and the machine is going to say whether or not it's a positive thing or a negative thing. And whether it's positive or negative doesn't look for the content, it's more like if somebody's being aggressive or not. Right? Somebody's just cursing at somebody, whatever, whatever. They may have a point, but it will just, like, vanish.

Veritas: So is it going to, like, ban... essentially ban certain mindsets and/or people who could be negative?

Twitter engineer: No, it's not going to ban the mindset, it's going to ban, like, a way of talking.

Raginfridus
01-14-2018, 12:02 PM
So it bans posts for particular words used? Are those words the Seven Words we can't say on tv?

What are the odds they ban cuck and keep racist?

tod evans
01-14-2018, 12:06 PM
Wonder how long I'd last at tweeter.............

:cool:

dannno
01-14-2018, 02:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44uOmiS7XPs

timosman
01-14-2018, 02:36 PM
Wonder how long I'd last at tweeter.............

:cool:

You wouldn't survive the interview. Too assertive and not malleable enough. Not a culture fit. Take him to lunch and let him go.

Brian4Liberty
01-14-2018, 02:44 PM
Oh hey it's Project Veritas. As always, watch the whole video for the whole story. The conversation in question starts at 14:35. It's the exact opposite of the impression that they are trying to give.


Twitter engineer: Every single conversation is going to be rated by a machine and the machine is going to say whether or not it's a positive thing or a negative thing. And whether it's positive or negative doesn't look for the content, it's more like if somebody's being aggressive or not. Right? Somebody's just cursing at somebody, whatever, whatever. They may have a point, but it will just, like, vanish.

Veritas: So is it going to, like, ban... essentially ban certain mindsets and/or people who could be negative?

Twitter engineer: No, it's not going to ban the mindset, it's going to ban, like, a way of talking.

Yeah, people should watch the whole thing, so they will know that you are cherry-picking and spinning. And you had to go all the way to the 14:35 mark to find something that might make it seem innocent. Sorry, propaganda fail.

They are censoring and shadow-banning people. There is no doubt about that.

tod evans
01-14-2018, 02:48 PM
You wouldn't survive the interview. Too assertive and not malleable enough. Not a culture fit. Take him to lunch and let him go.

What?

I just love the prettyboi with his cute little ponytail and tie............Gag.

These 'people' are shaping today's society? :eek:

nikcers
01-14-2018, 02:53 PM
Wow- between this and the missile tweet it seems like someone is trying to smear twitter as fake news so people stop using twitter as a news source.

timosman
01-14-2018, 03:15 PM
What?

I just love the prettyboi with his cute little ponytail and tie............Gag.

These 'people' are shaping today's society? :eek:

You should get familiar with this case - 18CV321529. Discussed here - http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?518272-Damore-Sues-Google-Discriminates-against-white-male-conservatives

Sola_Fide
01-14-2018, 04:31 PM
Even in conservative social media circles, Christians are banned.

pcosmar
01-14-2018, 06:23 PM
Even in conservative social media circles, Christians are banned.

You must be running in the wrong circles.

Sola_Fide
01-14-2018, 06:35 PM
You must be running in the wrong circles.

No, they are the right ones. If the world can stomach what you're preaching, you aren't preaching true Christianity.

pcosmar
01-14-2018, 07:44 PM
No, they are the right ones. If the world can stomach what you're preaching, you aren't preaching true Christianity.

So you measure success by Who offends the most people.
The Westboro brand of religion.

You are welcome to gather those to yourself.

enhanced_deficit
01-14-2018, 07:59 PM
That could be the case generally but to give credit where due.. they do let present leader of conservatives say many things.

Twitter’s Shifting Positions on Trump’s Tweets

By JONAH ENGEL BROMWICH and JOHANNA BARR
JAN. 3, 2018
https://static01.********/images/2018/01/03/business/04xp-twitter/04xp-twitter-master768.jpg
A television station at Seoul Railway Station in South Korea broadcast a report on Wednesday about President Trump’s tweet, which boasted about the United States’s nuclear capabilities. Credit Ahn Young-Joon/Associated Press President Trump boasted Tuesday evening that he had a “nuclear button” that is “much bigger” and “more powerful” than North Korea’s, again prompting fears that an errant tweet could lead to a nuclear conflict. (It is worth noting that there is no nuclear button (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/world/asia/nuclear-button-trump-north-korea.html).)


North Korean Leader Kim Jong Un just stated that the “Nuclear Button is on his desk at all times.” Will someone from his depleted and food starved regime please inform him that I too have a Nuclear Button, but it is a much bigger & more powerful one than his, and my Button works!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) Jan. 3, 2018

(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/948355557022420992)

The remark led to an immediate debate (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/world/asia/trump-tweet-button-north-korea.html) over whether Mr. Trump had broken Twitter’s rules and whether the platform should bar him from posting.
A company spokeswoman said in an interview on Wednesday that the tweet had not violated its terms of service (https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/twitter-rules).
The platform’s policy says that only (https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/violent-threats-glorification) “specific threats of violence or wishing for serious physical harm, death, or disease to an individual or group of people” constitute violations.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/technology/twitter-trump-rules.html

Sola_Fide
01-14-2018, 08:05 PM
So you measure success by Who offends the most people.
The Westboro brand of religion.

You are welcome to gather those to yourself.

No. They seem to be offensive for the sake of being offensive. But make no mistake about it, the gospel is a stumbling stone to man and man hates it. If the natural man is simply 'okay' with the gospel or it doesn't offend him at his heart, then you can be sure he hasn't heard the gospel of Jesus.

The gospel of Jesus is the one that got Jesus and all the apostles killed. When you preach that one, the world hates it and hates you.

timosman
01-14-2018, 09:49 PM
Even in conservative social media circles, Christians are banned.

Every thread Sola posts in, ends up in PTR. :cool:

timosman
01-14-2018, 09:51 PM
That could be the case generally but to give credit where due.. they do let present leader of conservatives say many things.

He's the POTUS FFS.:cool:

Sola_Fide
01-14-2018, 10:06 PM
Every thread Sola posts in, ends up in PTR. :cool:

What's PTR?

timosman
01-14-2018, 10:25 PM
What's PTR?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?213-Peace-Through-Religion

Sola_Fide
01-14-2018, 10:28 PM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?213-Peace-Through-Religion

Oh. Well, whatever. Are people so secularized and sensitive around here that a Christian can't offer a Christian view of something without wanting it to be censored? If something like that disrupts your life that much, you need to get out more.

devil21
01-15-2018, 03:57 AM
Anybody still wondering why the H1B visa program was allowed to get so out of hand? It's because they needed to import cheaper workers, yes, but just as importantly, those that do not have any American-centric frames of reference (First Amendment 'bias', eg) for IT jobs like at Twitter and the rest of the social media complex. Those without American frames of mind don't care about US patriotic history, First Amendment and similar roadblocks to censorship because they come from more direct authoritarian countries and are accustomed to it already. It's a long hard process to turn a lifelong American into a censorship lackey. Additionally, India is slated for massive development as a BRICS component so the H1B types are very comfortable shutting down truth about the situation while our media and politicians keeps feeding loads of bs about "American exceptionalism" to the population.

TheCount
01-15-2018, 09:04 AM
And you had to go all the way to the 14:35 mark to find something that might make it seem innocent. Sorry, propaganda fail.

Yes, I had to go all the way to the 14:35 mark to find Veritas's title claim. They made it the absolutely last thing in their video. Why do you suppose that is?



They are censoring and shadow-banning people. There is no doubt about that.

No one would argue that. The key question is "For what?"

tod evans
01-15-2018, 09:12 AM
No one would argue that. The key question is "For what?"

I watched the first few minutes yesterday and they made it quite clear it was for differing opinions.

specsaregood
01-15-2018, 10:15 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgyPpsX2B0g

Brian4Liberty
01-15-2018, 11:26 AM
The secret has been out for a while...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvn-hpZdElo

specsaregood
01-15-2018, 11:27 AM
The secret has been out for a while...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvn-hpZdElo

yeah, they are acting like this is some big deal, but its perhaps the least surprising of all their expose videos.

dannno
01-15-2018, 12:07 PM
They are censoring and shadow-banning people. There is no doubt about that.



No one would argue that. The key question is "For what?"

For supporting Trump.

timosman
01-15-2018, 12:39 PM
Gaslighting en masse.

DamianTV
01-15-2018, 04:06 PM
So right back to what the MSM does. Telling people what to think and shutting down anyone who doesnt express points of view they approve of.

https://static.infowars.com/politicalsidebarimage/maga-tweet_large.jpg

fcreature
01-15-2018, 07:26 PM
None of this is breaking news. This is exactly what every internet company that doesn't charge for their service is doing. You are literally paying them by providing them your data. I have no idea why anyone would think their DMs were any more private or protected to the data collection & analysis than their public tweets. It's all just text in a database.

timosman
01-15-2018, 09:06 PM
None of this is breaking news. This is exactly what every internet company that doesn't charge for their service is doing. You are literally paying them by providing them your data. I have no idea why anyone would think their DMs were any more private or protected to the data collection & analysis than their public tweets. It's all just text in a database.

None of these concepts are familiar to the average user. They believe whatever they want to believe. A visual of hundreds of socially awkward geeks sifting through your data is a very powerful reminder. :cool:

fcreature
01-15-2018, 09:08 PM
None of these concepts are familiar to the average user. They believe whatever they want to believe. A visual of hundreds of socially awkward geeks sifting through your data is a very powerful reminder. :cool:

Definitely agree there. Hopefully this clears it up for a bunch of people.

FSP-Rebel
01-15-2018, 09:31 PM
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angelatc
01-15-2018, 09:44 PM
Yeah, people should watch the whole thing, so they will know that you are cherry-picking and spinning. And you had to go all the way to the 14:35 mark to find something that might make it seem innocent. Sorry, propaganda fail.

They are censoring and shadow-banning people. There is no doubt about that.

I'm sort of on his side here. The shadow-banning is crap but that's not news. We already knew about that. The way I heard the explanations was that bias was certainly reflected in the decisions. That's humanity. Getting the bots involved will take bias out. Unless bias is programmed in.

angelatc
01-15-2018, 09:47 PM
No one would argue that. The key question is "For what?"

Scott Adams was routinely shadow-banned during the campaign season, and he's not a hot head with a big mouth by any stretch.

AZJoe
01-15-2018, 10:36 PM
Yes, I had to go all the way to the 14:35 mark to find Veritas's title claim. They made it the absolutely last thing in their video. Why do you suppose that is?
No one would argue that. The key question is "For what?"

You watched the video but still couldn't figure out that Twitter is censoring people based on political ideology.

AZJoe
01-15-2018, 10:37 PM
Twitter's political speech control has been well documented (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?510429-Twitter-s-Political-Censorship&highlight=twitter)for a while. It's nice to see it engineers admitting it on video.

AZJoe
01-15-2018, 10:39 PM
Examples

Original:
http://original.antiwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/tweet2a.jpg

Twitter:

http://original.antiwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/tweet3a.jpg

Twitter bans Roger Stone (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-29/roger-stone-banned-twitter-attacking-cnn) for calling CNN hosts "lying c@*#suckers"

Stone responds via Politico (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/28/roger-stone-suspended-twitter-244274): "I have been inundated on Twitter with death threats, threats to kill my wife, my family, my children and even my dogs yet Twitter seems unconcerned with these bloggers."


Assange quickly points out Twitter's completely arbitrary standard
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Foul-mouthed Keith Olbermann complained :rolleyes::
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But look at all the Twitter approved Olbermann foul-mouthed maledictions:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNRrfUeWsAAIa69.jpg:large

AZJoe
01-15-2018, 10:40 PM
Mike Keen has good expose on how Twitter actively suppresses tweets based on content. Twitter through the selective content suppression is acting like a political advocacy group rather than a social media platform: https://medium.com/@mikekeen/twitter-censoring-trump-supporters-a1f1d9a87cda

"... The (anti-Trump) tweet that I replied to was deleted once mine started outpacing it in number of favorites and retweets. ... once that tweet was deleted, mine stopped being interacted with. That’s because my tweet was no longer part of any “thread” in the conversation. ... I have continued to reply directly to the President ... However, I have found that while initially, for about the first minute or so, I get a flood of reactions and notifications. Favorites, retweets, etc, and then they abruptly stop, because my tweets are being manually removed from the main conversation thread. ... The above reply received 27 favorites within seconds of being posted, and then all activity on it stopped. When I click on it, I see that it is not part of any thread. When people view President Trump’s original tweet, mine will not be visible, no matter how far they scroll down. ... This tweet has been removed from the main thread and is not visible when people view President Trump’s original tweet.

Let’s compare that with what happens when we look at an anti-Trump reply. ... This tweet is still a part of the main thread, and is visible to people viewing President Trump’s original tweet Every single Tweet by President Trump has top comments that are 100% negative. Positive replies are simply not seen. Twitter is absolutely censoring Pro-Trump replies and Trump supporters from voicing their support of the President. ..."

AZJoe
01-15-2018, 10:42 PM
Twitter uses, try GAB (https://gab.ai/) https://gab.ai/logo.png (https://gab.ai/)

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgflip.com%2F1eh6ee.jpg&f=1

Swordsmyth
01-16-2018, 02:52 AM
I'm sort of on his side here. The shadow-banning is crap but that's not news. We already knew about that. The way I heard the explanations was that bias was certainly reflected in the decisions. That's humanity. Getting the bots involved will take bias out. Unless bias is programmed in.

If you think it won't be you are naive to say the least.