This Is What Happens When A Russiagate Skeptic Debates A Professional Russiagater

[goldenequity]

This Is What Happens When A Russiagate Skeptic Debates A Professional Russiagater
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-29/what-happens-when-russiagate-skeptic-debates-professional-russiagater


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ikf1uZli4g


students of debate will appreciate the continual Socratic take-downs :D

[AZJoe]

Mumbling Guardian con man Luke Harding is completely eviscerated.

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What the fool Luke Harding thought would be a media ad to promote his work of fiction book, didn't go so well. Instead, Harding ended up exposing himself as a complete fraud.

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[AZJoe]

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[AZJoe]

Analysis of the Interview where Luke Harding Exposes Himself as an Idiot (https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2017/12/25/christmas-fun-watch-collusion-denialist-aaron-mate-trigger-luke-hardings-collective-psychosis/)

The Russian hacking/collusion story is baseless propaganda. It is a conditioning of the public exercise that has accelerated to the point of creating a sort of mass psychosis. … Tell the same lie enough times from varied angles and outlets and in the end, it will become a truism that is accepted on faith despite all evidence to the contrary. The more the evidence shows it never happened, the stronger the faith becomes of the true believers that it did. Claims of “heresy” are made. People are labeled “collusion deniers” and “hacking Truthers” in an effort to discredit all those who call the great truth into question.

That is the Russian hacking/collusion story in a nutshell and it has produced a class of Collusion Zombies …

You are not going to witness a better example of this desperate psychosis than the interview Aaron Maté did with Guardian reporter Luke Harding on TRNN. …

Harding has a new book out called “Collusion: Secret Meetings, Dirty Money, and How Russia Helped Donald Trump Win” and it is completely baseless and without any merit whatsoever. … a printed version of the last 6 month of the Rachel Maddow show where innuendo, 6 Degrees of Separation connections and “what if” logic replaces actual facts …

During the interview Maté continually asks Harding for evidence and prods him when he makes one logical fallacy after another. This sudden exposure to a real journalist clearly frustrates Harding … In the end all Harding is left with is telling Maté to go … talk with the regime change seeking NGOs and opposition candidates …

Harding becomes so frustrated he calls Maté a “collusion denialist” … It’s a nifty way of dismissing those of us (a growing segment of the population by the way) who want to see real evidence … Maybe Iraq taught a few of us that. …

what you see here is more than just an establishment apologist trying desperately to sell his useless book. You’re watching a man who suffers from a delusion fight desperately to maintain it in the face of reason. … back in 2002 the proponents of the Iraqi WMD story had the same difficulty when they went up against a real journalist. Their collective psychosis went into overdrive …



From Duran (http://theduran.com/interview-exposes-russia-hating-journalist-luke-harding-video/):

One of Luke Harding’s tactics throughout the interview was to try to draw attention away from the actual evidence … which as Aaron Maté repeatedly pointed out to him there is actually none – to the supposed criminality of Vladimir Putin’s regime and its supposed typical modus operandi. [i.e. Putin bad, Russia bad, therefore any accusation must be true] … This is to elevate innuendo about character to the level of evidence of a specific wrongdoing. The flaws inherent in this approach ought to be obvious, but Luke Harding seems oblivious to them even though Aaron Maté repeatedly pointed them out to him.

[Firestarter]

Roger Stone, a long-time unofficial adviser to Donald Trump, was briefed in advance about the leaked Democratic emails by an American libertarian who was in contact with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange. Stone told the Daily Caller:
I’ve admitted I’ve been in communication with Assange through an intermediary.
They don’t tell me what they’re going to release.

In August 2016, Stone told a Florida audience:
I actually have communicated with Assange. I believe the next tranche of his documents pertain to the Clinton Foundation but there’s no telling what the October surprise may be.

A source also told the Guardian that Stone once boasted to meeting Assange personally. Stone denied to the Guarding having met Assange: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/02/trump-adviser-clinton-emails-wikileaks-roger-stone

[AZJoe]

From Caitlin Johnstone (https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/what-happens-when-a-russiagate-skeptic-debates-a-professional-russiagater-1e796f620a4a) on Luke Harding's evisceration:

Have you ever wondered why mainstream media outlets, despite being so fond of dramatic panel debates on other hot-button issues, never have critics of the Russiagate narrative on to debate those who advance it? Well, in a recent Real News interview we received an extremely clear answer to that question …

it was a one-sided thrashing that The Intercept’s Jeremy Scahill accurately described as “brutal”.

The term Gish gallop refers to a fallacious debate tactic in which a bunch of individually weak arguments are strung together in rapid-fire succession in order to create the illusion of a solid argument and overwhelm the opposition’s ability to refute them all in the time allotted. Throughout the discussion the Gish gallop appeared to be the only tool that Luke Harding brought to the table, firing out a deluge of feeble and unsubstantiated arguments only to be stopped over and over again by Maté who kept pointing out when Harding was making a false or fallacious claim. …

Maté derailed Harding’s Gish gallop, and Harding actually admonished him for doing so …

Maté just kept patiently dragging the debate back on track over and over again in the most polite obliteration of a man that I have ever witnessed.

The entire interview followed this basic script. Harding makes an unfounded claim, Maté holds him to the fact that it’s unfounded, Harding sputters a bit and tries to zoom things out and point to a bigger-picture analysis of broader trends to distract from the fact that he’d just made an individual claim that was baseless …

The reason Russiagaters speak so often in broad, sweeping terms … is because when you zoom in and focus on any individual

[Brian4Liberty]

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Yep. MSNBC is the Deep State Propaganda outlet. They rarely have commercials. Who pays for the MSNBC propaganda?

[dannno]

Yep. MSNBC is the Deep State Propaganda outlet. They rarely have commercials. Who pays for the MSNBC propaganda?

General Electric and Commiecast?

[Brian4Liberty]

This Is What Happens When A Russiagate Skeptic Debates A Professional Russiagater
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-29/what-happens-when-russiagate-skeptic-debates-professional-russiagater


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ikf1uZli4g


students of debate will appreciate the continual Socratic take-downs :D

The author of the book (Luke Harding) kept changing the subject to how bad Putin is, and how journalists have been treated in Russia. Apparently that is his true thesis. It is certainly not evidence of Trump campaign collusion with Putin, or even of Putin interference in the election. And they will never address the minor, Russian based advertising on Facebook and social media, of which there is actual evidence.

Some Russians, like the Democrats and socialists, pushed racial division in the US, most likely with the same goal; to break down unity and society in the US. Kind of hard for any of them to address that shared agenda, thus they make up non-existent conspiracies.

[timosman]

Yep. MSNBC is the Deep State Propaganda outlet. They rarely have commercials. Who pays for the MSNBC propaganda?

Suckers'R'Us :cool:

[Raginfridus]

General Electric and Commiecast?Ye, and ltimately the entire nation.

[Origanalist]

Russiagate has been a nothingburger from the start. The only people who believe it are complete idiots and those desperate to take down Trump. I've never liked Trump but it was obvious from the start that it was bullshit.