Roy Moore Loses Senate To Dems: Trump Train De-Railed?

[r3volution 3.0]

One would hope so.

...comment.

[Swordsmyth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AtE54HpXBM

[phill4paul]

Left/right establishment and media victory. Are you happy about that?

[William Tell]

McConnell and Obama won tonight. Rand and Massie lost. Screw it all.

[Raginfridus]

He's building a political empire, derails will happen.

[nikcers]

I don't think you understand the Trump train if you think it was derailed. Trump won tonight, the real Trump, not the one he plays on TV.

[Zippyjuan]

Leaves the Senate 51-49. Under reconciliation rules (which they used for the Obamacare votes and their tax reform bill) they can pass a bill with 50% of the votes (assuming the VP votes with them to break a tie). This means that to pass that tax reform they can only lose a single member of their party and still pass it. That is why they were trying to get things done so quickly. But the reconciliation of the House and Senate tax reform bills has not been worked out yet and now passing it has gotten even harder- Bob Corker was against it on the first go round and changes to get House votes may cost them other Senators (Collins is said to be leaning against it as it currently stands).

This is why it was so important to Trump and his agenda.

Other bills will need at least 60 votes to pass- meaning trying to lure ten Democrats. If they vote party line, nothing will be done.

https://mgtvwkrg.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/trump-moore-tweet.png?w=607

[RJB]

McConnell and Obama won tonight. Rand and Massie lost. Screw it all.

No kidding. Trump was against Moore in the primaries.

The Hillary train is back on track if anything-- although it may not be her at the helm.

[timosman]

Moore would be a liability. Btw, riding on a horse to polls. :cool:

[oyarde]

I do not think there has ever been a trump train . The senate never passing anything at all might be a gift to america

[nikcers]

No kidding. Trump was against Moore in the primaries.

The Hillary train is back on track if anything-- although it may not be her at the helm.
Trumps support for Moore was malicious compliance at best. His comments were unneccesary and probably ruined the political debate. It was a repeat of the election but the reverse, Republicans thought they were going to win by a landslide and the Democrats were fired up over fake news.

[Zippyjuan]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/mitch-mcconnell-alabamas-new-senator-wont-be-seated-this-year/article/2643267


Mitch McConnell: Alabama's new senator won't be seated this year


Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said Tuesday that no matter who wins Tuesday’s Senate election in Alabama, Republican Luther Strange will remain in the seat until the end of the session this year.

“Sen. Strange is going to be here through the end of this session,” McConnell, R-Ky., told reporters.

Republicans are eager to pass a tax reform bill and send it to the president’s desk as early as next week, but there is no guarantee they will be able to round up the votes by then, and they might need more time.

Strange, a Republican, was appointed to the seat to replace Jeff Sessions, who President Trump picked to serve as attorney general.

Keeping Strange in the seat assures Republicans of a reliable GOP vote, not just for tax reform but for must-pass spending legislation.

Republican Roy Moore defeated Strange in the Alabama Republican primary and is facing off against Democrat Doug Jones in Tuesday’s election.

State officials said certification of Tuesday's election would not happen until Dec. 26th at the earliest in order to ensure all counties have reported results. The Senate is only expected to be in session this year until Dec. 22 at the latest.

[RJB]

Trumps support for Moore was malicious compliance at best. His comments were unneccesary and probably ruined the political debate. It was a repeat of the election but the reverse, Republicans thought they were going to win by a landslide and the Democrats were fired up over fake news.

I was feeling like that while I was watching the result, but didn't really formulate it intellectually. I think you're right. That's an insightful observation.

[enhanced_deficit]

Trump made robo calls and RM still lost?

Bad omen. Which one played bigger role in this GOP defeat, Trump's Israel embassy call or Ivanka's child rights call? Or was it something else like Flynn/Kushner scandals?
Assuming following are not fakenews.

Chris Matthews: Trump Is Moving Capital To Jerusalem For Roy Moore

Chris Matthews, host of MSNBC’s Hard Ball with Chris Matthews, said that the call from Trump’s administration to move the capital of Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem Wednesday “is related” to the Roy More Alabama Senate race.
“And a couple more points about this. Don’t think this isn’t related to Alabama next week. It is related. It is the Christian evangelicals down there with their crazy ideas about Israel, which is, I don’t know, mythical,” Matthews stated.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/06/chris-matthews-trump-is-moving-capital-to-jerusalem-for-roy-moore/


Ivanka Trump: 'Special Place in Hell for People Who Prey on Children'

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Nov 15, 2017 - At a public appearance in South Jersey, Ivanka Trump spoke to the Associated Press about the sexual misconduct allegations against Judge Roy Moore (R-Ala.).

[EBounding]

McConnell and Obama won tonight. Rand and Massie lost. Screw it all.

I dunno. Rand’s probably relieved he won’t have to deal with being associated with a pedophile. Has he done anything to help Moore since the endorsement?

[r3volution 3.0]

I dunno. Rand’s probably relieved he won’t have to deal with being associated with a pedophile.

Yep


Has he done anything to help Moore since the endorsement?

Nope

[phill4paul]

I dunno. Rand’s probably relieved he won’t have to deal with being associated with a pedophile. Has he done anything to help Moore since the endorsement?

Do you mean an alleged pedophile?

[nikcers]

I was feeling like that while I was watching the result, but didn't really formulate it intellectually. I think you're right. That's an insightful observation.
They are going to get rid of the Republican majority Rand Paul won after the last election. It's hard to blame shit on the other party when you control all three branches of government. That's why Trump's weak ass argument lost, theres no way people would go out and vote for government promises and ponies that we know they won't deliver on. You have all three branches of the government and we still have Obamacare, this is bullshit and Republican voters know it.

[Zippyjuan]

I dunno. Rand’s probably relieved he won’t have to deal with being associated with a pedophile. Has he done anything to help Moore since the endorsement?

Rand endorsed Moore back in October but has been silent on it ever since. http://reason.com/blog/2017/10/17/rand-paul-endorses-roy-moore-in-alabama

[r3volution 3.0]

Left/right establishment and media victory. Are you happy about that?

No this was a failure of the right culture warrior wing of the GOP.

i.e. the people over whom we need to vault to get into power.

Fuck them.

[AuH20]

What kind of psycho roots for the neocon/prog empire? Regardless of Moore's candidacy, they have run this country aground.

[Raginfridus]

What kind of psycho roots for the neocon/prog empire? Regardless of Moore's candidacy, they have run this country aground.
https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/donald-trump-aipac.jpg?quality=85

[r3volution 3.0]

What kind of psycho roots for the neocon/prog empire?

Good question

Why'd you do it?

[AuH20]

Good question

Why'd you do it?

Trump is being assailed by the entire deep state apparatus every day. You have your answer right there. Any sane person wants to see the power dispersed/broken as opposed to the status quo that once again prevailed tonight.

[r3volution 3.0]

Trump is being assailed by the entire deep state apparatus every day. You have your answer right there. Any sane person wants to see the power dispersed/broken as opposed to the status quo that once again prevailed tonight.

Poor guy


WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump on Tuesday signed into law a sweeping defense policy bill that authorizes a $700 billion budget for the military, including additional spending on missile defense programs to counter North Korea’s growing nuclear weapons threat.

But there’s a catch. The $700 billion budget won’t become reality until lawmakers agree to roll back a 2011 law that set strict limits on federal spending, including by the Defense Department — and they haven’t yet.

The law caps 2018 defense spending at $549 billion.

Before he signed the bill at the White House, President Trump called on Congress to “finish the job” and eliminate the cap on defense spending.

“I think it’s going to happen,” said the president, joined by Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Joseph Dunford and other senior military leaders. “We need our military. It’s got to be perfecto.”

He urged Democrats in Congress to quit threatening to shut down the government and “send clean funding and a clean funding bill to my desk that fully funds our great military. Protecting our country should always be a bipartisan issue, just like today’s legislation.”

Temporary government funding is set to run out on Dec. 22, the deadline for lawmakers to send the White House a broader government funding bill or risk a partial government shutdown.

http://fox6now.com/2017/12/12/president-trump-signs-700-billion-military-budget-into-law/

[nikcers]

What kind of psycho roots for the neocon/prog empire?
Well, you know how a roomba which is one of those dumb robot vacuums tries its hardest to clean up dog shit that it smears everywhere?

[Zippyjuan]

Trump is being assailed by the entire deep state apparatus every day. You have your answer right there. Any sane person wants to see the power dispersed/broken as opposed to the status quo that once again prevailed tonight.

Trump IS Deep State. Look at who he hired- corporate executives, Goldman Sachs, ex- Generals, Washington insiders.

[r3volution 3.0]

Newspeak is the language of Oceania (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nations_of_Nineteen_Eighty-Four), a fictional totalitarian state ruled by the Party, who created the language to meet the ideological requirements of English Socialism (Ingsoc).[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak#cite_note-1) In the world of Nineteen Eighty-Four (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four) (1949), Newspeak is a controlled language (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_language), of restricted grammar and limited vocabulary, a linguistic design meant to limit the freedom of thought (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_thought)—personal identity, self-expression, free will—that ideologically threatens the regime of Big Brother (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Brother_(Nineteen_Eighty-Four)) and the Party, who thus criminalized such concepts as thoughtcrime (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtcrime), contradictions of Ingsoc (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingsoc) orthodoxy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak

[AuH20]

Trump IS Deep State. Look at who he hired- corporate executives, Goldman Sachs, ex- Generals.

If he was Deep State, they would have rolled out the red carpet instead of impeachment. It's DoD vs. the CIA/FBI cartel. It's in our interest for the DoD faction to win and splinter the entrenched power base. Institutional Chaos is the preferred option.

[Zippyjuan]

If he was Deep State, they would have rolled out the red carpet instead of impeachment. It's DoD vs. the CIA/FBI cartel. It's in our interest for the DoD to win and splinter the entrenched power base.

The opposition party ALWAYS calls for possible impeachment- at least since Nixon. Let's you know you are "one of them". Notice he quit ragging on the CIA- he was quickly put back in line. Or that was just for show.

[r3volution 3.0]

If he was Deep State, they would have rolled out the red carpet instead of impeachment. It's DoD vs. the CIA/FBI cartel. It's in our interest for the DoD to win and splinter the entrenched power base.

Ha, it's so damn simple to manipulate you people, isn't it?

[AuH20]

The opposition party ALWAYS calls for possible impeachment- at least since Nixon. Let's you know you are "one of them".

Not just the opposition party. His own party as well.

[AuH20]

Ha, it's so damn simple to manipulate you people, isn't it?

It's so damn simple to not understand the power play at work here? DoD vs. CIA/FBI/NSA. The latter runs things with an Iron Fist. Even utilizes it's surveillance capabilities and vast influence to bribe congressional members. The DoD is no great shakes either, but it's far preferable to Spook Inc.

[r3volution 3.0]

It's so damn simple to not understand the power play at work here? DoD vs. CIA/FBI/NSA. The latter runs things with an Iron Fist. Even utilizes it's surveillance capabilities and vast influence to bribe congressional members. The DoD is no great shakes either, but it's far preferable to Spook Inc.

Yes, the enemies are everywhere. And the people must be mobilized. But the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.



*...

[r3volution 3.0]

That ^^^ was Goebbels, incidentally.

Has anything changed?

Ha, no, the only difference is we have food.

We're three square meals away from NAZIsm (or bolshevism, as the case may be: tomato, tomahto).

[nobody's_hero]

So the media won.

[Raginfridus]

DoD vs. CIA/FBI/NSA. The latter runs things with an Iron Fist. Even utilizes it's surveillance capabilities and vast influence to bribe congressional members. The DoD is no great shakes either, but it's far preferable to Spook Inc.
Let me guess, you think its DoD vs ALL THE ALPHABET because Trump appears to be on the "side" of DoD, and we all know Trump's the hero of this story, so DoD must be preferable? What's preferable, what am I supposed to be preferring? You offer me this dilemma between two spy-thriller tyrannies, and I've got to be thankful to Glorious Leader for the one because reasons? If the state within the state's "Iron Fist" can piss their pants over an Alabamy ballot box, have you stopped to wonder - maybe they aren't as powerful as your imagination makes them out to be?

[EBounding]

Under the bus you go, Roy.

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[Ender]

It's so damn simple to not understand the power play at work here? DoD vs. CIA/FBI/NSA. The latter runs things with an Iron Fist. Even utilizes it's surveillance capabilities and vast influence to bribe congressional members. The DoD is no great shakes either, but it's far preferable to Spook Inc.

2nd verse, same as the first.

[dude58677]

Ha, Roy Moore is a career politician. Dems getting a little desperate after that HUMILIATING defeat by Donald Trump against Hillary.

[Anti Federalist]

So the media won.

Short and sweet, yes.

The state organs won.

[RonPaulMall]

So the media won.

Most important take from last night. Trump has done a lot to lessen the power and influence of the media, but their power is still enormous.

[Raginfridus]

Roy Moore was gonna Make Alabama Great Again. This ballot box mattered so much more than the others, not just to cuckservatives, but to libtards and the world. Yesterday shall be remembered for as long as there's interpretive dance as the last day of America, before the police state took all our rights because Roy lost Alabama.

[shakey1]

I do not think there has ever been a trump train . The senate never passing anything at all might be a gift to america

merry xmas

[AuH20]

Most important take from last night. Trump has done a lot to lessen the power and influence of the media, but their power is still enormous.

The media can still incite false outrage with the simpleton 'muh democracy' types that will ultimately be the death of us all. These people largely fuel the power structure that we are currently saddled with.

[phill4paul]

"Doug Jones will be an outstanding Senator who will represent Alabama well," Schumer said in a statement. "He was a great candidate and will be an even better Senator."

“Roy Moore was an awful candidate and never should have gotten to the Senate. But make no mistake about it, just like in Virginia, Democrats are energized, focused on the middle class and those struggling to get there, and things are looking better and better for 2018,” he said.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/364614-schumer-on-jones-victory-things-are-looking-better-and-better-for-2018

[nikcers]

Not just the opposition party. His own party as well.

Assange
likened Barack Obama and his administration to a “wolf in sheepskin”, adding that Trump and his administration, in comparison, are a “wolf in wolf’s skin”. He said: “It is easier to deal with a wolf that is not disguised.”

[Zippyjuan]

Under the bus you go, Roy.

940904649728708609

"Not my fault! I endorsed him. I promoted him. I robo-called for him. But he was a loser anyways."

[LibertyEagle]

No this was a failure of the right culture warrior wing of the GOP.

i.e. the people over whom we need to vault to get into power.

$#@! them.

There you go with that pesky "we" again. You, want world government; the vast majority of us do not.

[dannno]

"Not my fault! I endorsed him. I promoted him. I robo-called for him. But he was a loser anyways."

But he promoted the other guy first.. just like he said in the tweet.. Totally valid tweet, these kind of posts make you look really bad.

[mrsat_98]

https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25299079_10210619225458750_2586866592420048560_n.j pg?oh=f7e2fca414f72996c0b85e3f5ff48bfb&oe=5A8A216B

[Swordsmyth]

https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25299079_10210619225458750_2586866592420048560_n.j pg?oh=f7e2fca414f72996c0b85e3f5ff48bfb&oe=5A8A216B

I hope this one happens, but my faith in Sessions is 0.

[anaconda]

I don't think you understand the Trump train if you think it was derailed. Trump won tonight, the real Trump, not the one he plays on TV.

If you please, what is the real Trump?

[nikcers]

If you please, what is the real Trump?

https://d3qvyul2tp4j8.cloudfront.net/i/aWUdkxnO8v.jpg

[anaconda]

https://d3qvyul2tp4j8.cloudfront.net/i/aWUdkxnO8v.jpg

OK but how do you explain his court nominees?

[nikcers]

OK but how do you explain his court nominees?

Assange I think explains the difference the best.
likened Barack Obama and his administration to a “wolf in sheepskin”, adding that Trump and his administration, in comparison, are a “wolf in wolf’s skin”. He said: “It is easier to deal with a wolf that is not disguised.”

[nikcers]

OK but how do you explain his court nominees?

Political deals that he had to make in order to guarantee no opposition from his own party from people like Rand.

[fedupinmo]

I dunno. Rand’s probably relieved he won’t have to deal with being associated with a pedophile. Has he done anything to help Moore since the endorsement?

https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/features/explaining-pedophilia#1


A pedophile is a person who has a sustained sexual orientation (https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/guide/sexual-orientation) toward children, generally aged 13 or younger, Blanchard says.

Moore is not a pedophile.


Do you mean an alleged pedophile?

Not even allegedly...

[TER]

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/69e310e7d39bb1b72540f52eb40096169e4ca9a3c2165bc2e6 79cc4a04279c8f.jpg

The clouds are gathering and the Storm is arriving.

Woe to the Shareblue trolls and paid shills who commit subterfuge through deceit on election ballots and also on the internet. They will answer for their sins.

4000+ sealed indictments.

Tick tock indeed...

[Swordsmyth]

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/69e310e7d39bb1b72540f52eb40096169e4ca9a3c2165bc2e6 79cc4a04279c8f.jpg

The clouds are gathering and the Storm is arriving.

Woe to the Shareblue trolls and paid shills who commit subterfuge through deceit on election ballots and also on the internet. They will answer for their sins.

4000+ sealed indictments.

Tick tock indeed...

From your lips to GOD's ears, I have faith in HIM but none in Sessions.

[TER]

https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25299079_10210619225458750_2586866592420048560_n.j pg?oh=f7e2fca414f72996c0b85e3f5ff48bfb&oe=5A8A216B

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[TER]

From your lips to GOD's ears, I have faith in HIM but none in Sessions.

Sessions is a white hat. He is one of us. All in good time.

[nikcers]

I can't believe the people double downing on Trump- South Park predicted it the best with their Double Down episode this season. You would think that since people were so wrong about something like Trump not being a one world government neocon they would not keep falling for his scam. I hope you guys understand the geopolitical price we pay for winning.

[TER]

Trump is not the Savior. Jesus Christ is. Nevertheless, he is the best President in a hundred years.

I don’t know much, but I feel certain about at least this one thing. In the future, the trolls here and elsewhere will be known by name.

[nikcers]

Trump is not the Savior. Jesus Christ is. Nevertheless, he is the best President in a hundred years.

I don’t know much, but I feel certain about at least this one thing. In 4 years, the trolls here and elsewhere will be known by name.
In death everyone has a name.

[TER]

In death everyone has a name.

Yes, but in death, not everyone will inherit eternal life.

Neither the fornicators like Drudge who is compromised, nor the deceivers.

[RJB]

Sessions is a white hat. He is one of us. All in good time.

I fear you may be naive, but I pray that my skepticism is wrong.

Good to see you back.

[nikcers]

Yes, but in death, not everyone will inherit eternal life.

Neither the fornicators like Drudge who is compromised, nor the deceivers.
Most of us are already dead inside anyways, might as well make the outsides match? Either people want one world government/money or they want the end times. There aren't enough people that want to save freedom. If you've already experienced your second death before your first death then why does living matter? I am starting to think its all about population control.

[TER]

I fear you may be naive, but I pray that my skepticism is wrong.

Good to see you back.

Pray for me, a sinner, and pray for our President, just as we do every Lord’s Day. Pray that the Lord blesses him and helps him do what is right and to the glory of God.

Trump is a sinner, as we all are, but what he is fighting against is much more sinister.

I hope you are well my brother. Stay strong and stay safe. Pray often.

[TER]

Most of us are already dead inside anyways, might as well make the outsides match? Either people want one world government/money or they want the end times. There aren't enough people that want to save freedom. If you've already experienced your second death before your first death then why does living matter? I am starting to think its all about population control.

If we are dead inside, it is our own fault. It is we who choose death instead of life.

I want neither one world government or the end times, so in my single case, you are completely wrong.

What I want is freedom, however, because of the evil in the world, “freedom” has been subverted into acceptance and glorification of debauchery, selfishness, and all sorts of moral depravity. All these enslaving passions and base desires under the guise of “freedom”, when what they really are is death and darkness.

True life, true freedom, only comes with obedience to Him Who fashioned us out of dust and Who grants us Resurrection. All other paths lead to emptiness, to corruption and to a name which is forgotten.

[nikcers]

If we are dead inside, it is our own fault. It is we who choose death instead of life.

I want neither one world government or the end times, so in my single case, you are completely wrong.

What I want is freedom, however, because of the evil in the world, “freedom” has been subverted into acceptance and glorification of debauchery, selfishness, and all sorts of moral depravity. All these enslaving passions and base desires under the guise of “freedom”. when what they really are is death and darkness.

True life, true freedom only comes with obedience to Him Who fashioned is out of dust. All other paths leave emptiness, corruption and to a name which is forgotten.
You can't have a free society without people that want one, you can't have one with people who think there won't be a cost. There will be no change of attitude with change of leadership unless the leadership is a leader of ideas. We need thought leaders to replace the ones we have now, ones that promote the idea of the good. We can't pretend like Trump pissing on your face is rain forever, its just a pissy replacement for a boot.

[Origanalist]

Sessions is a white hat. He is one of us. All in good time.

I'll have to disagree with you on that, but good to see you here again.

[TER]

You can't have a free society without people that want one, you can't have one with people who think there won't be a cost. There will be no change of attitude with change of leadership unless the leadership is a leader of ideas. We need thought leaders to replace the ones we have now, ones that promote the idea of the good. We can't pretend like Trump pissing on your face is rain forever, its just a pissy replacement for a boot.

Trump’s pissing is better than the globalist, elitist, Soros-bought, satanic shitting that has been dropping on us for some time now. His is a boot I much rather prefer than the one whose ‘leaders’ and their Marxists idealists have been choking us with and destroying this nation.

[TER]

I'll have to disagree with you on that, but good to see you here again.

Greetings my good friend.

Sessions is not Ron Paul. Nevertheless, he has a role to play, and in time, I believe you will remember him fondly not for the things he did which you disagreed with, but for the things he did which you did in fact agree with.

[The Rebel Poet]

Not just the opposition party. His own party as well.
Lol. War of the roses man. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/110-2008/h401

[Brian4Liberty]

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The clouds are gathering and the Storm is arriving.

Woe to the Shareblue trolls and paid shills who commit subterfuge through deceit on election ballots and also on the internet. They will answer for their sins.

4000+ sealed indictments.

Tick tock indeed...

That's quite a prediction. I'd say it's a long shot, but we'll see.

Funny thing is, I sometimes get this gut feeling, with no evidence at all, that Sessions is cooking up some major prosecutions behind the scenes, pretty much in secret. On the other hand, I sometimes think they have him so threatened or blackmailed that he hides in his office hoping no one comes to the door. Most likely he is simply buried in bureaucratic BS and refereeing infighting.

[nikcers]

Trump’s pissing is better than the globalist, elitist, Soros-bought, satanic $#@!ting that has been dropping on us for some time now. His is a boot I much rather prefer than the one whose ‘leaders’ and their Marxists idealists have been choking us with and destroying this nation.
Ok rainmaker i get winning is great and all but at what cost?

[TER]

Ok rainmaker i get winning is great and all but at what cost?

It’s not about winning for the sake of winning.

It’s about avoiding the costs of allowing a greater evil to take hold.

And not for my sake primarily, but the sake of my family and loved ones.

That is the fight we have, the struggle we face, the cross we carry. Namely, to turn away from the darkness and towards the Light.

Trump is not our Savior. Jesus Christ is. Whoever thinks Trump is our Savior is sorely mistakened.

Nevertheless, Trump is the best President in the last 100 years, and until someone better than him comes around who actually has a chance to cut the puppet strings of Saudi Arabia over the lawmakers and elite of Washington, destroy the dominance and hold of the satanic cabal within the political, banking and entertainment industries which have enslaved us and devoured our children, and demolish the Soros-fueled intrasurgences which seek to foment hate and civil war, than I will happily stick with Trump.

I prefer sunny days and no rain. I vote no rain.

But if there is rain in the forecast (and in reality, that is the case, at least until a revolutionary change happens), than I will take Trump over what <they> have to offer.

[TheCount]

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Wish I had room to add this to my sig...

[nikcers]

It’s not about winning for the sake of winning..
What do you think we aren't an empire all of the sudden? You think Saudi Arabia is controlling Washington? The best ancient empires that lasted the longest left other countries alone as long as they paid their tributes. It was the countries that didn't pay the tribute that were destroyed. We've been forcing countries to pay for protection long before Trump was president, but that hasn't stopped. He isn't asking for 700 billion dollars for defense spending he is asking for 700 billion dollars for us to collect our tributes.

[asurfaholic]

I don’t get the significance of that anon post. He had a 50/50 chance of being right so his prediction holds no value. And all this sealed indictments stuff is nonsense. Nobody has any verifiable information to back it up, so in my mind it’s just internet gibberish.

I don’t see trump as one to burn the swamp down, not even for one second. He is the swamp. His morals are confusing and his actions and tweets put on display just how unguided and unwise he is. Show me a godly man in the White House, and I’ll start to have hope. Until then all we have are more of the same lying politicians. Trump is the king of the lying politicians. What has he done that I should hold him in greater regards to any of the other turd sandwiches we’ve had for president?

[Swordsmyth]

I don’t get the significance of that anon post. He had a 50/50 chance of being right so his prediction holds no value. And all this sealed indictments stuff is nonsense. Nobody has any verifiable information to back it up, so in my mind it’s just internet gibberish.

I don’t see trump as one to burn the swamp down, not even for one second. He is the swamp. His morals are confusing and his actions and tweets put on display just how unguided and unwise he is. Show me a godly man in the White House, and I’ll start to have hope. Until then all we have are more of the same lying politicians. Trump is the king of the lying politicians. What has he done that I should hold him in greater regards to any of the other turd sandwiches we’ve had for president?

The one reason to be open to the possibility that Trump may do some good is his choice of Gorsuch and the other judicial picks he has made.

Because of that I am taking a "wait and see" approach to some of these "draining the swamp" theories.

[Thaddaeus]

May be our first Democratic senator since they were in Klan robes..

(Well, no. we had Heflin in the eighties. It's always fun to make the Demos remember they were the rednecks and Kluckers once, though.)

[Zippyjuan]

The one reason to be open to the possibility that Trump may do some good is his choice of Gorsuch and the other judicial picks he has made.

Because of that I am taking a "wait and see" approach to some of these "draining the swamp" theories.

Judges like these?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?517725-Two-Trump-judge-nominees-out-after-criticism

[Swordsmyth]

Judges like these?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?517725-Two-Trump-judge-nominees-out-after-criticism

Yup, and even some better than those.

[Zippyjuan]

Yup, and even some better than those.

It isn't hard to beat being the worst rated judges. Mateer was the first judge since 2006 to be given a "not qualified" rating by the American Bar Association. https://www.salon.com/2017/11/10/republicans-confirm-36-year-old-judicial-nominee-who-has-never-tried-a-case/

[Swordsmyth]

It isn't hard to beat being the worst rated judges. Mateer was the first judge since 2006 to be given a "not qualified" rating by the American Bar Association. https://www.salon.com/2017/11/10/republicans-confirm-36-year-old-judicial-nominee-who-has-never-tried-a-case/

Of course the communists hate them.

[fedupinmo]

It isn't hard to beat being the worst rated judges. Mateer was the first judge since 2006 to be given a "not qualified" rating by the American Bar Association. https://www.salon.com/2017/11/10/republicans-confirm-36-year-old-judicial-nominee-who-has-never-tried-a-case/

You trust the bar association? It's full of fookin' lawyers...

[Swordsmyth]

Doug Jones’ victory in Tuesday’s special Senate election in Alabama may change Justice Anthony Kennedy’s calculus as he mulls retirement.
The race’s shock result has imperiled the Republican Senate majority ahead of the 2018 midterm elections, and with it the integrity of the judicial confirmation process, which appears nonfunctional under divided government.
Though the justice has recently told (https://www.npr.org/2017/07/01/535085491/justice-neil-gorsuch-votes-100-percent-of-the-time-with-most-conservative-collea) prospective clerks that he is considering retirement, the prospect of his departure seemed remote. In a political environment as volatile as this, his power as the Court’s swing vote is at its maximum. It seems counter intuitive that he would retire as his influence reaches its apex. What’s more, Kennedy has a high opinion of the Court’s capacity to bear moral clarity for a restless nation, making his continued service a matter of duty.
However true this may be, the justice is 81 and he is, after all, a Republican. Given his age and political inclinations, it is reasonable to assume he would like to retire and would prefer to do so under a Republican president. Jones’ stunning victory Tuesday betrayed the vulnerability of the GOP’s Senate majority, and the very real possibility that Democrats will seize control of the upper chamber in November 2018.

More at: http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/13/doug-jones-victory-may-give-trump-a-second-supreme-court-pick/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=idealmedia&utm_campaign=dailycaller.com&utm_term=68731&utm_content=2163597


If the recount doesn't change things we still might get some good out of this fiasco, trading Kennedy for another Gorsuch would be well worth having Jones for 2 years.

[Zippyjuan]

Doug Jones’ victory in Tuesday’s special Senate election in Alabama may change Justice Anthony Kennedy’s calculus as he mulls retirement.
The race’s shock result has imperiled the Republican Senate majority ahead of the 2018 midterm elections, and with it the integrity of the judicial confirmation process, which appears nonfunctional under divided government.
Though the justice has recently told (https://www.npr.org/2017/07/01/535085491/justice-neil-gorsuch-votes-100-percent-of-the-time-with-most-conservative-collea) prospective clerks that he is considering retirement, the prospect of his departure seemed remote. In a political environment as volatile as this, his power as the Court’s swing vote is at its maximum. It seems counter intuitive that he would retire as his influence reaches its apex. What’s more, Kennedy has a high opinion of the Court’s capacity to bear moral clarity for a restless nation, making his continued service a matter of duty.
However true this may be, the justice is 81 and he is, after all, a Republican. Given his age and political inclinations, it is reasonable to assume he would like to retire and would prefer to do so under a Republican president. Jones’ stunning victory Tuesday betrayed the vulnerability of the GOP’s Senate majority, and the very real possibility that Democrats will seize control of the upper chamber in November 2018.

More at: http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/13/doug-jones-victory-may-give-trump-a-second-supreme-court-pick/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=idealmedia&utm_campaign=dailycaller.com&utm_term=68731&utm_content=2163597


If the recount doesn't change things we still might get some good out of this fiasco, trading Kennedy for another Gorsuch would be well worth having Jones for 2 years.

There are 34 seats up for re-election in 2018. 24 of those are currently Democratic and eight Republican (two are independent). To take control, the Democrats need to win all the seats they currently have and pick up four more- meaning they need to win 28 out of 34 battles.

[Swordsmyth]

There are 34 seats up for re-election in 2018. 24 of those are currently Democratic and eight Republican (two are independent). To take control, the Democrats need to win all the seats they currently have and pick up four more- meaning they need to win 28 out of 34 battles.

I know, but the hype going around is that they may do that or better, I don't buy it but if Kennedy does we may be rid of the turncoat sooner rather than later.

I'd suggest Moore for SCOTUS but I want someone younger.

[Zippyjuan]

I know, but the hype going around is that they may do that or better, I don't buy it but if Kennedy does we may be rid of the turncoat sooner rather than later.

I'd suggest Moore for SCOTUS but I want someone younger.

Moore's sexual harassment charges would probably rule out him being approved- even among Republicans- should Trump decide to nominate him. And even that is unlikely. Trump wants to distance himself from backing a loser.

[oyarde]

There are 34 seats up for re-election in 2018. 24 of those are currently Democratic and eight Republican (two are independent). To take control, the Democrats need to win all the seats they currently have and pick up four more- meaning they need to win 28 out of 34 battles.

I do not expect the numbers to change at all .

[Zippyjuan]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/15/politics/trump-and-bannon-urge-roy-moore-to-concede/index.html


Trump and Steve Bannon urge Roy Moore to concede


Both President Donald Trump and his former chief political strategist Steve Bannon are urging Roy Moore to concede, as the defiant Republican Senate candidate refuses to admit defeat to Democrat Doug Jones.

Moore lost Alabama's Tuesday special Senate election by more than 20,000 votes.

"I think he should," Trump told reporters on the South Lawn of the White House on Friday morning. "He tried. I want to support, always, I want to support the person running. We need the seat. We would like to have the seat."

Bannon, the former White House chief strategist, was one of Moore's longest and most fervent supporters. He visited the state three times to campaign on his behalf, including a rally the night before the election. He told the campaign that Moore needs to concede, a source familiar with the conversation tells CNN.

[Swordsmyth]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/15/politics/trump-and-bannon-urge-roy-moore-to-concede/index.html

Who cares? Moore shouldn't concede until the recount is completed.

[Zippyjuan]

Who cares? Moore shouldn't concede until the recount is completed.

What recount? There isn't one. There is only a mandatory recount if the candidates are within half a percent. Moore lost by 1.5%. Moore can still have one if he is personally willing to pay for it though. What they are waiting on is the certification of the votes but that rarely changes the vote tallies by much and Moore lost by over 20,000 votes.

[Swordsmyth]

What recount? There isn't one. There is only a mandatory recount if the candidates are within half a percent. Moore lost by 1.5%. Moore can still have one if he is personally willing to pay for it though. What they are waiting on is the certification of the votes but that rarely changes the vote tallies by much and Moore lost by over 20,000 votes.

Either recount.

[Sonny Tufts]

I'd suggest Moore for SCOTUS

Riiiight... nominate someone who willfully disobeys court orders and urges state officials to ignore a binding Supreme Court decision. Even the Senate Republicans aren't crazy enough to go for that.

[Swordsmyth]

Riiiight... nominate someone who willfully disobeys court orders and urges state officials to ignore a binding Supreme Court decision. Even the Senate Republicans aren't crazy enough to go for that.

Crazy is what we need if we are to restore liberty to the Republic.

[Zippyjuan]

Crazy is what we need if we are to restore liberty to the Republic.

Or crazy might destroy liberty. You never know what you might get from crazy.

[Swordsmyth]

Or crazy might destroy liberty.

It depends on what kind of crazy, Moore has the right kind.

You on the other hand.............

[Zippyjuan]

It depends on what kind of crazy, Moore has the right kind.

You on the other hand.............

Moore wanted to have a duly elected Senator denied his seat simply because Moore didn't like his religion. That isn't liberty. Liberty is supposed to be for everybody- not just white Christians.

[Swordsmyth]

Moore wanted to have a duly elected Senator denied his seat simply because Moore didn't like his religion. That isn't liberty. Liberty is supposed to be for everybody- not just white Christians.

I already dealt with that in the other Moore thread, and in any case there is no way he could accomplish that on his own but he could do a lot of good.

[TER]

Moore shouldn't concede until the recount is completed.

He will not concede and massive amounts of voter fraud will be shown.

Trump and Bannon are playing that they want him to concede, so it doesn’t look planned.

But from the rumors going around, this was all planned, in order to expose Soros and the Democratic Party fraudulent practices.

I pray these rumors are right.

Either way, a ridiculous amount of swamp creatures are not running for election again, McCain is rolling around in a boot which mysteriously switches to the other leg (he will be gone soon if not in jail), Clinton is wearing hers for a ridiculous long time for a simple toe fracture, over 4000 indictments are still sealed, Ryan is going bye bye, taxes are going down, the market hit highs every week, an estimated 6000+ people have been arrested in pedophile rings across the nation since Trump was elected....

And all in less than a year.

May God bless our President and may he continue to destroy the Deep State, one swamp creature at a time.

[Danke]

He will not concede and massive amounts of voter fraud will be shown.

Trump and Bannon are playing that they want him to concede, so it doesn’t look planned.

But from the rumors going around, this was all planned, in order to expose Soros and the Democratic Party fraudulent practices.

I pray these rumors are right.

Either way, a ridiculous amount of swamp creatures are not running for election again, McCain is rolling around in a boot which mysteriously switches to the other leg (he will be gone soon if not in jail), Clinton is wearing hers for a ridiculous long time for a simple toe fracture, over 4000 indictments are still sealed, Ryan is going bye bye, taxes are going down, the market hit highs every week, an estimated 6000+ people have been arrested in pedophile rings across the nation since Trump was elected....

And all in less than a year.

May God bless our President and may he continue to destroy the Deep State, one swamp creature at a time.


https://streamable.com/qid1q

last clip shows it was happening in 2008 also.

[TER]

https://streamable.com/qid1q

last clip shows it was happening in 2008 also.

Of course, it has been happening for as long as there have been elections, especially by the Democrats (think the 1930s).

Trump made an EO this year in anticipation, and the idiot Dems fell into the trap. This election was a honeypot, and the general public will learn how much fraud happens in these elections, facilitated by that monster Soros and his henchmen.

[Swordsmyth]

http://thehill.com/sites/default/files/styles/thumb_small_article/public/mooreroy_120517getty_0.jpg?itok=DyJvlOyA

© Getty

Roy Moore (http://thehill.com/people/roy-moore)'s campaign announced Friday that it is seeking donations for an "election integrity fund" following the former judge's unsuccessful bid for an Alabama Senate seat.
Moore has refused to concede (http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/364617-moore-refuses-to-concede-alabama-senate-race) the race, which went to his Democratic opponent Doug Jones with 50 percent of the vote compared to Moore's 48 percent.
The campaign is seeking to meet a deadline to report cases of voter fraud before Alabama's secretary of state certifies the vote. The election will be certified between Dec. 26 and Jan. 3.




In a letter sent out to supporters, the campaign said its budget "ran through" on Tuesday, the night of the Alabama special election, and asked supporters to help raise another $75,000 to collect reports of "voter fraud and other irregularities at polling locations throughout the state."

"My campaign team is busy collecting numerous reported cases of voter fraud and irregularities for the Secretary of State's office," the statement said.

More at: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...integrity-fund (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/365197-moore-asking-donations-for-election-integrity-fund)

[Swordsmyth]

For those with the means and the desire: https://www.roymoore.org/Support-Judge-Moore/

[enhanced_deficit]

He will not concede and massive amounts of voter fraud will be shown.

Trump and Bannon are playing that they want him to concede, so it doesn’t look planned.

But from the rumors going around, this was all planned, in order to expose Soros and the Democratic Party fraudulent practices.

I pray these rumors are right.

Either way, a ridiculous amount of swamp creatures are not running for election again, McCain is rolling around in a boot which mysteriously switches to the other leg (he will be gone soon if not in jail), Clinton is wearing hers for a ridiculous long time for a simple toe fracture, over 4000 indictments are still sealed, Ryan is going bye bye, taxes are going down, the market hit highs every week, an estimated 6000+ people have been arrested in pedophile rings across the nation since Trump was elected....

And all in less than a year.



Some rumors were suggesting GOP candidate Roy Moore's loss was planned from within MAGA team because he was too conservative like Bannon.




There seems to be far greater risk to her political career due to her close ties to GOP-Adelson wing that has started to alienate growing number of GOP conservatives.


https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/130/590x/secondary/ivanka-trump-donald-trump-charlotteseville-1036172.jpg

Surfacing of Ivanka-Acosta photos unlikely to harm her political career (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?528849-Surfacing-of-Ivanka-Acosta-photos-unlikely-to-harm-her-political-career&)

https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5a2b6d30190000be35035623.jpeg?cache=meuhdypxe8&ops=1910_1000


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jDPzW9COsU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jDPzW9COsU

How a future Trump Cabinet member gave a serial sex abuser the deal of a lifetime

BY Julie K. Brown
Nov. 28, 2018

His client, Palm Beach multimillionaire Jeffrey Epstein, 54, was accused of assembling a large, cult-like network of underage girls — with the help of young female recruiters — to coerce into having sex acts behind the walls of his opulent waterfront mansion (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article221404845.html) as often as three times a day, the Town of Palm Beach police found.
At this home on El Brillo Way in Palm Beach, young girls, recruited by other young girls, would arrive by car or taxi, be greeted in the kitchen by a member of Jeffrey Epstein’s staff and ascend a staircase. They were met by Epstein, clad in a towel.


The eccentric hedge fund manager, whose friends included former President Bill Clinton, Donald Trump and Prince Andrew (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article221897990.html), was also suspected of trafficking minor girls, often from overseas, for sex parties at his other homes in Manhattan, New Mexico and the Caribbean, FBI and court records show.
Interactive: Sex abuser Jeffrey Epstein was surrounded by powerful people. Here’s a sampling
(https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article221897990.html)
Facing a 53-page federal indictment, Epstein could have ended up in federal prison for the rest of his life.
But on the morning of the breakfast meeting, a deal was struck — an extraordinary plea agreement that would conceal the full extent of Epstein’s crimes and the number of people involved (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article214210674.html).
Not only would Epstein serve just 13 months in the county jail, but the deal — called a non-prosecution agreement— essentially shut down an ongoing FBI probe into whether there were more victims and other powerful people who took part in Epstein’s sex crimes, according to a Miami Herald examination of thousands of emails, court documents and FBI records (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article221957120.html).
The pact required Epstein to plead guilty to two prostitution charges in state court. Epstein and four of his accomplices named in the agreement received immunity from all federal criminal charges. But even more unusual, the deal included wording that granted immunity to “any potential co-conspirators’’ who were also involved in Epstein’s crimes. These accomplices or participants were not identified in the agreement, leaving it open to interpretation whether it possibly referred to other influential people who were having sex with underage girls at Epstein’s various homes or on his plane.
As part of the arrangement, Acosta agreed, despite a federal law to the contrary, that the deal would be kept from the victims (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article219494920.html). As a result, the non-prosecution agreement was sealed until after it was approved by the judge, thereby averting any chance that the girls — or anyone else — might show up in court and try to derail it.

Acosta did not respond to numerous requests for an interview or answer queries through email.

https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/n726f0/picture221521960/alternates/FREE_1140/acosta%20(1).jpg
Alexander Acosta, now President Donald Trump’s secretary of labor, was the U.S. attorney for Southern Florida when he negotiated an end to the federal investigation of Jeffrey Epstein.

But court records reveal details of the negotiations and the role that Acosta would play in arranging the deal, which scuttled the federal probe into a possible international sex trafficking operation. Among other things, Acosta allowed Epstein’s lawyers unusual freedoms in dictating the terms of the non-prosecution agreement.
“The damage that happened in this case is unconscionable,” said Bradley Edwards, a former state prosecutor who represents some of Epstein’s victims. “How in the world, do you, the U.S. attorney, engage in a negotiation with a criminal defendant, basically allowing that criminal defendant to write up the agreement?”
As a result, neither the victims — nor even the judge — would know how many girls Epstein allegedly sexually abused between 2001 and 2005, when his underage sex activities were first uncovered by police. Police referred the case to the FBI a year later, when they began to suspect that their investigation was being undermined by the Palm Beach State Attorney’s Office.

Not a ‘he said, she said’

“This was not a ‘he said, she said’ situation. This was 50-something ‘shes’ and one ‘he’ — and the ‘shes’ all basically told the same story,’’ said retired Palm Beach Police Chief Michael Reiter, who supervised the police probe.


Indeed, one lawsuit, still pending in New York, alleges that Epstein used an international modeling agency to recruit girls as young as 13 from Europe, Ecuador and Brazil. The girls lived in a New York building owned by Epstein, who paid for their visas, according to the sworn statement of Maritza Vasquez, the one-time bookkeeper for Mc2, the modeling agency.

Mike Fisten, a former Miami-Dade police sergeant who was also a homicide investigator and a member of the FBI Organized Crime Task Force, said the FBI had enough evidence to put Epstein away for a long time but was overruled by Acosta.

[TheCount]

​
Sessions is a white hat. He is one of us. All in good time.

How much time is good time?

[dannno]

Moore wanted to have a duly elected Senator denied his seat simply because Moore didn't like his religion. That isn't liberty. Liberty is supposed to be for everybody- not just white Christians.

Was it perhaps because his religious conflicted with his oath of office to uphold the US Constitution?

[Sonny Tufts]

Was it perhaps because his religious conflicted with his oath of office to uphold the US Constitution?

That sounds very much like what JFK's detractors said -- "He won't uphold the Constitution; he'll take orders from the Vatican!"

[dannno]

That sounds very much like what JFK's detractors said -- "He won't uphold the Constitution; he'll take orders from the Vatican!"

Does the Bible tell people to take orders from the Vatican?

[Zippyjuan]

Was it perhaps because his religious conflicted with his oath of office to uphold the US Constitution?

Maybe everybody with a religion should be banned from running for office.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

[Sonny Tufts]

Does the Bible tell people to take orders from the Vatican?

No, but thinking that all Muslims follow sharia law to the letter is about as accurate as thinking that all Christians follow the Bible to the letter.

[dannno]

No, but thinking that all Muslims follow sharia law to the letter is about as accurate as thinking that all Christians follow the Bible to the letter.

I guess the question would be whether they actually wanted to implement Sharia Law, which is commanded by their religion.

I'm not saying no Muslims can serve in government.. but... if they take an oath to uphold the Constitution and they simultaneously want to institute Sharia Law, as commanded by their religion, then that is breaking the oath of office. It doesn't matter if it is because of their religion or what the reason is.

So if they are actually Muslim, and follow the religion, which means they want to institute Sharia Law.. then it follows that they can't uphold their oath of office. That seems like, at minimum, a big "issue" to me. Or at least a valid concern.. Again, you're correct that identifying as Muslim doesn't mean they are actually Muslim. But if they are truly Muslim, they want to institute Sharia Law.

I'm no expert, but I see Ron Paul as a real Christian, yet I don't know of anything in that regard that would conflict with upholding the Constitution.

[acptulsa]

I guess the question would be whether they actually wanted to implement Sharia Law, which is commanded by their religion.

If they're Shi'ite maybe they're commanded to do Sharia Law. But they aren't commanded to do it by the Koran. They weren't commanded to by Mohammed. Very, very roughly half the Muslims in the world don't see the need, and don't want to be ruled by it.

And you don't have anything like the knowledge or the right to say any different about them.

[dannno]

If they're Shi'ite maybe they're commanded to do Sharia Law. But they aren't commanded to do it by the Koran. They weren't commanded to by Mohammed. Very, very roughly half the Muslims in the world don't see the need, and don't want to be ruled by it.

And you don't have anything like the knowledge or the right to say any different about them.

Well if it's only half..

[Zippyjuan]

I guess the question would be whether they actually wanted to implement Sharia Law, which is commanded by their religion.

I'm not saying no Muslims can serve in government.. but... if they take an oath to uphold the Constitution and they simultaneously want to institute Sharia Law, as commanded by their religion, then that is breaking the oath of office. It doesn't matter if it is because of their religion or what the reason is.

So if they are actually Muslim, and follow the religion, which means they want to institute Sharia Law.. then it follows that they can't uphold their oath of office. That seems like, at minimum, a big "issue" to me. Or at least a valid concern.. Again, you're correct that identifying as Muslim doesn't mean they are actually Muslim. But if they are truly Muslim, they want to institute Sharia Law.

I'm no expert, but I see Ron Paul as a real Christian, yet I don't know of anything in that regard that would conflict with upholding the Constitution.

Congress would have to implement Sharia law. One person cannot. Congress proposes all kinds of religious influenced laws. Did Kieth Ellison (the person Moore accused) ever call for implementing Sharia law or did Moore and others assume because somebody is Muslim they want Sharia Law throughout the world?

[Swordsmyth]

Democratic operatives, backed by a liberal billionaire and facilitated by a former Obama official, created thousands of fake Russian accounts to give an impression the Russian government was supporting Alabama Republican Roy Moore in last year’s election against now-Sen. Doug Jones.
The secret project, which had a budget of just $100,000 and was carried out on Facebook and Twitter, was revealed after the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/us/alabama-senate-roy-jones-russia.html) obtained an internal report detailing the efforts.
“We orchestrated an elaborate ‘false flag’ operation that planted the idea that the Moore campaign was amplified on social media by a Russian botnet,” the internal report said. It also took credit for “radicalizing Democrats with a Russian bot scandal” after experimenting “with many of the tactics now understood to have influenced the 2016 elections.”


Jones said Thursday he is "outraged" over the report and wants a federal investigation over the project.
"I'd like to see the Federal Election Commission and the Justice Department look at this to see if there were any laws being violated and, if there were, prosecute those responsible," he said. "These authorities need to use this example right now to start setting the course for the future to let people know that this is not acceptable in the United States of America."


One participant in the project reportedly was Jonathon Morgan, the chief executive of New Knowledge, a firm that wrote a report – released by the Senate Intelligence Committee earlier this week – about Russia’s social media operations in the 2016 election and its efforts to hurt Hillary Clinton and help Donald Trump.
He reportedly contacted Renée DiResta, who later joined his company and became the leading author of the report about the Russian interference efforts for the firm, asking for suggestions of online tactics that are worth testing.


The Senate Intelligence Committee did not respond to a request for comment.
The Alabama project was funded by liberal billionaire and LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman who gave $100,000 to the cause, according to the Times. Hoffman is one of Silicon Valley’s top donors to the Democrats, donating $7 million to various groups and campaigns in the last election cycle.
The money trickled down through American Engagement Technologies, a firm run by Mikey Dickerson who was appointed by former President Barack Obama to lead the newly-created United States Digital Service.
Dickerson did not reply to Fox News’ immediate request for a comment.


The Democratic operatives then created a Facebook page and imitated conservative Alabamians who weren’t satisfied with the Republican candidate while encouraging others to write in another candidate.
The project also involved creating thousands of fake Russian accounts on Twitter that began following Moore. This effort attracted attention from local and national media, falsely suggesting Russia is backing Moore’s candidacy.
“Russian invasion? Roy Moore sees spike in Twitter followers from land of Putin,” read the headline of an article at The Montgomery Advertiser, just months before the election night. Other outlets shortly picked up the story.

The Washington Post, meanwhile, pointed out that the Moore campaign accused the Jones campaign and Democratic operatives of “pulling a political stunt on Twitter and alerting their friends in the media.

More at: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-operatives-created-fake-russian-bots-in-alabama-race-designed-to-link-kremlin-to-republican-roy-moore