Breaking: Flynn says Trump directed him to make contact with Russians...

[enhanced_deficit]

Breaking on Drudge:

ABC's Brian Ross: Flynn Prepared To Testify Against Trump, Trump Family, White House Staff
Ian Schwartz
December 1, 2017
ABC's Brian Ross reports: Michael Flynn promised "full cooperation to the Mueller team" and is prepared to testify that as a candidate, Donald Trump "directed him to make contact with the Russians."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/12/01/abcs_brian_ross_flynn_prepared_to_testify_against_ trump_trump_family_people_in_the_white_house.html


Kushner Is Said to Have Ordered Flynn to Contact Russia

Now that the retired general has pleaded guilty, the president's son-in-law could be one of the next dominoes to fall.

December 1, 2017
Two former officials with the Trump transition team who worked closely with Flynn say that during the last days of the Obama administration, the retired general was instructed to contact foreign ambassadors and foreign ministers of countries on the U.N. Security Council, ahead of a vote condemning Israeli settlements. Flynn was told to try to get them to delay that vote until after Barack Obama had left office, or oppose the resolution altogether.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-12-01/kushner-is-said-to-have-ordered-flynn-to-contact-russia







Related

UN resolution against Israeli settlements at center of Flynn guilty plea



Mueller probing Kushner’s 2016 attempts to block UNSC settlement resolution

Ex-Trump adviser Flynn charged with lying to FBI in Russia probe



December 1, 2017
In the lead up to the anti-settlement resolution which angered Jerusalem, Trump’s team had urged the US to veto the resolution.
Jerusalem Post

Jared Kushner’s parents donated tens of thousands to settlement groups
Trump's son-in-law sits on board of parents' foundation; grantees also include Israeli hospitals, US Jewish schools
JTA

Jared Kushner Failed to Disclose He Led a Foundation Funding Illegal Israeli Settlements Before U.N. Vote

12/3/17
http://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushner-disclosure-form-west-bank-settlements-israel-white-house-729290


http://australiansforpalestine.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/SG_729_Bishops-20140117182624407183-620x349.jpg
(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?458980-Israel-plans-largest-WB-settlement-expansion-in-30-years-Surprising-Obama-response&)
Obama firmly opposed Israeli settlements before Andrew Adler threat scandal (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?458980-Israel-plans-largest-WB-settlement-expansion-in-30-years-Surprising-Obama-response&)
2009 Obama Redline
JERUSALEM Tue Jun 2, 2009
"The president doesn't want to see even one cement mixer in the West Bank," an Israeli political source, briefed by Netanyahu aides, quoted U.S. Middle East envoy George Mitchell telling an Israeli delegation that met him in London last week.


Is Kushner in trouble?

And what that deal would involve would deeply interest Mueller, partly if it involves benefits that would not merely accrue to Trump’s presidency, but to Kushner’s personal fortune. Writing (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-12-02/timing-of-flynn-s-lies-shows-risks-to-kushner) for Bloomberg News, Timothy O’Brien, a Trump biographer, said Kushner’s interests with Russia and Israel may extend well beyond his father-in-law’s foreign policy considerations. Kushner’s family is in debt because of its ownership of a Manhattan office tower and Mueller is intrigued about a meeting Kushner took with a banker during the transition. (Kushner has said he met with the banker because of his close ties to Russian president Vladimir Putin, and for no other reason.) He has also in his real estate dealings partnered (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/26/us/politics/jared-kushner-beny-steinmetz.html)with one of Israel’s wealthiest families.

There’s more: Kushner reportedly pressed his father to sack then-FBI director James Comey in May. Comey was investigating the very events that have entangled Flynn — and, we now know, Kushner.

So we’re back to the Logan Act. Have the Democrats noticed?
You bet. “This shows a Trump associate negotiating with the Russians against U.S. policy and interests before Donald Trump took office and after it was announced that Russia had interfered in our election,” Bloomberg quoted Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., as saying. “That’s a stunning revelation and could be a violation of the Logan Act, which forbids unauthorized U.S. citizens from negotiating with a foreign power.”
https://www.jta.org/2017/12/03/news-opinion/politics/what-flynns-plea-could-mean-for-kushner-and-israel





All Drudge Headlines:

REPORT: Flynn says Trump directed him to make contact with Russians... (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/01/us-stock-futures-data-opec-tax-on-the-agenda.html)
Feels president has abandoned him... (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael-flynn-charged-making-false-statements-fbi-documents/story?id=50849354)
Prepared To Testify Against Trump, Family, White House Staff... (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/12/01/abcs_brian_ross_flynn_prepared_to_testify_against_ trump_trump_family_people_in_the_white_house.html)


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MERRY CHRISTMAS MR. MUELLER! (http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/01/politics/michael-flynn-charged/index.html)
FLYNN PLEADS GUILTY; LYING TO FBI (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/01/court-schedules-plea-hearing-for-flynn-at-1030-am-et.html)
FLIPPED (https://www.thedailybeast.com/michael-flynn-charged-with-lying-to-fbi)
STOCKS HIT (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/01/us-stock-futures-data-opec-tax-on-the-agenda.html)

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NYT
Michael Flynn’s Guilty Plea: 10 Key Takeaways

It seems Mr. Trump himself directed Mr. Flynn to make contact with the Russians.
If Mr. Flynn testifies to this — ABC’s Brian Ross (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael-flynn-charged-making-false-statements-fbi-documents/story?id=50849354) is reporting that he will — it presents another impeachable offense along with the possible obstruction of justice. Even more, it brings the whole matter well outside the purview of the criminal courts into the province of a political scandal, indicating abuses of power arguably well beyond those in the Watergate and Iran-contra affairs.

Mr. Flynn asked Russia to intervene at the United Nations on behalf of Israel.
He is admitting that last Dec. 22, he asked Mr. Kislyak to delay or defeat a United Nations Security Council resolution condemning Israel for its settlement policy, which the Obama administration had decided to let pass. The possible involvement or knowledge of Israel in the case will be one of many questions that congressional investigators will pursue.

The lying is bad. Conducting rogue American foreign policy is worse.
In the end, Mr. Flynn’s lies are secondary to the demonstration that the Trump administration was actively undermining American foreign policy before it took office. This will most likely prove the most abiding scandalous fact of the Mueller investigation. And it’s one that nobody on either side of the aisle could possibly defend.

Mr. Flynn’s cooperation portends extreme peril for a variety of people in the president’s orbit.
Most immediately vulnerable? Jared Kushner. Mr. Flynn was present at a Dec. 1, 2016, Trump Tower meeting where Mr. Kushner is said to have proposed to Mr. Kislyak setting up a back channel for the transition team to communicate with Moscow.
Those and related details are now front and center in the investigation. Criminal liability aside, Friday’s news — including a report that Mr. Kushner was the one who directed Mr. Flynn to contact Russia (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-12-01/kushner-is-said-to-have-ordered-flynn-to-contact-russia) — helps cement Mr. Kushner’s reputation as a callow and arrogant freelancer, authorized by the president to act way over his head, and possibly impairing some of the most delicate and important issues of foreign policy. (A possible winner, on the other hand, is the younger Mike Flynn, about whose criminal liability his father was extremely concerned. Look to see how Mr. Mueller now chooses to treat the younger Mr. Flynn, who is being investigated over his work for his father’s lobbying business.)

Mr. Flynn’s plea raises the likelihood that he will give testimony in support of a potential obstruction of justice charge against Mr. Trump.
The basis for the possible obstruction charge against the president has been his efforts to get the F.B.I. director, James Comey, to shut down the Flynn investigation during a Feb. 14 meeting in the Oval Office, coupled with his multiple lies on the subject. Obstruction is plainly an impeachable offense: It’s the offense for which Richard Nixon was threatened with impeachment.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/01/opinion/michael-flynn-guilty-plea-takeaways.html

[angelatc]

This is the dumbest investigation ever. But fuck - liberals are much better at creating drama than the right is, that's for sure.

[enhanced_deficit]

It's almost like a political game with too many players.
On a sidenote, hopefully mideast money baggers are not trying to penalize Trump for plans to move US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.

[phill4paul]

So an admitted liar now says he is telling the truth?

[Jan2017]

Flynn was ALREADY in contact with the Russians and Ukrainians though - fault Trump campaign for hiring him and then firing him,
but this is FBI bullshit.

FBI under Comey acknowledged Hilly's 7 Top Secret emails when she went off the .gov State Department reservation -
that's just of the emails Hilly returned to the State Department as USA property - Vladimir Putin probably HAS plenty more,
and it is the very code that gave Russian cybernauts the open AI back door into commadeering the USS John McCain navigation systems
into a Singapore oil tanker at night this year.

Trump hired a guy with Russian contacts since 2014, and he did not register as a foreign agent.

Hillary Clinton going off the mandated protected .gov cyberspace - and not returning those emails and their special in's
of code/routing to be even available to the FBI, cybersecurity experts in USA, the Congressional subpoena and
any other authority like the National Archives whose property those deleted emails and routing code belong to, as required by USA law
turns out to be exactly just what(?) to the FBI - a non-prosecutable treason because Dims had the FBI in there pocket(?)
USA doesn't even know what Russia can do with that because of the failure to provide that USA property back to
reverse engineer what is being done - or can be done - with it.
Now what if, say for example, the North Koreans - can steer more than the little ole USS John McCain (?)
- maybe like a fire and fury strike from the USA. Jus' sayin'

[Raginfridus]

I like how Trump and Clinton ties with certain mobsters always get omitted, like this Russian story is breaking news and the American people owe MSM for their diligence.

[TheTexan]

This is the dumbest investigation ever. But fuck - liberals are much better at creating drama than the right is, that's for sure.

Well, if Trump directed someone on his team to talk to someone from Russia, that's a serious concern.

Because, Russia.

[enhanced_deficit]

It is as much about domestic politics, if not more, as it is about "Russia".

James Comey offers some biblical inspiration after Flynn guilty plea (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/01/james-comey-offers-some-biblical-inspiration-after-flynn-guilty-plea.html)



"But justice roll down like waters and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream," Comey wrote on Twitter and Instagram.
Comey didn't mention Flynn directly, but the former law enforcement official is connected to the Flynn case in several ways.


Tucker Higgins | @tuckerhiggins
Published 19 Mins Ago
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2017/06/15/104531264-GettyImages-171063911-mueller-comey.530x298.jpg?v=1497527614 (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/01/james-comey-offers-some-biblical-inspiration-after-flynn-guilty-plea.html#) Nicholas Kamm | AFP | Getty Images
In a 2013 file photo, then-FBI director nominee Jim Comey (R) applauds outgoing FBI director Robert Mueller in the Rose Garden at the White House.

[Brian4Liberty]

Wow. So talking to people in a foreign nation is illegal now?

You know you have gone full Marxist revolution/purge when new "laws" are pulled right out of the air, they are applied ex post facto and some animals are more equal than others.

[Raginfridus]

Wow. So talking to people in a foreign nation is illegal now?

You know you have gone full Marxist revolution/purge when new "laws" are pulled right out of the air, they are applied ex post facto and some animals are more equal than others.The people's suspicion is enough in states organized into popular dictatorships, and that's all this country's become.

[specsaregood]

So it sounds like Flynn should have followed rule #1.

[Brian4Liberty]

So it sounds like Flynn should have followed rule #1.

"Congratulations! You and your campaign have just won the election. Do not speak to anyone in government. Do not speak to anyone from another government. Do not speak to anyone at all. If you or anyone on your campaign team does this at any time, past, present or future, you will be thrown in prison. Thank you, The Deep State."

[Valli6]

...wait a minute... Obama enacted sanctions against Russia - over their intention of interfering in the election - just one day before Flynn spoke with an ambassador? And this occurred almost 2 months AFTER the election was over? Sounds like a set up.

from zero hedge:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-01/statement-offense-here-full-michael-flynn-plea-agreement

"Statement Of The Offense": Here Is Mueller's Full Case Against Flynn

As the public scrambles to uncover more information on just what Flynn knows, or doesn't know, and how exactly he is cooperating with Mueller, moments ago the Special Counsel has released the following "statement of the offense", i.e., i.e., Robert Mueller full case against Flynn, which he will hope to use and impeach Trump. It all boils down to two phone calls between a senior member of the Trump administration and the Russian ambassador to the US at the time.

Here is the key section:


On or about December 28, 2016, then-President Barack Obama signed Executive Order 13757, which was to take effect the following day. The executive order announced sanctions against Russia in response to that government's actions intended to interfere with the 2016 presidential election. On or about December 28, 2016, the Russian Ambassador contacted FLYNN. On or about December 29, 2016, FLYNN called a senior official of the Presidential Transition Team ("PTT official"), who was with other senior members of the Presidential Transition Team at the Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, to discuss what, if anything, to communicate to the Russian Ambassador about the U.S. Sanctions.

On that call, FLYNN and the PTT official discussed the U.S. Sanctions, including the potential impact of those sanctions on the incoming administration's foreign policy goals. The PTT official and FLYNN also discussed that the members of the Presidential Transition Team at Mar-a-Lago did not want Russia to escalate the situation. Immediately after his phone call with the PTT official, FLYNN called the Russian Ambassador and requested that Russia not escalate the situation and only respond to the U.S. Sanctions in a reciprocal manner. Shortly after his phone call with the Russian Ambassador, FLYNN spoke with the PTT official to report on the substance of his call with the Russian Ambassador, including their discussion of the U.S. Sanctions.

On or about December 30, 2016, Russian President Vladimir Putin released a statement indicating that Russia would not take retaliatory measures in response to the U.S. Sanctions at that time. On or about December 31, 2016, the Russian Ambassador called FLYNN and informed him that Russia had chosen not to retaliate in response to FLYNN's request. After his phone call with the Russian Ambassador, FLYNN spoke with senior members of the Presidential Transition Team about FLYNN's conversations with the Russian Ambassador regarding the U.S. Sanctions and Russia's decision not to escalate the situation.


There is more, including a similar contact between the Russian ambassador and Flynn over a UN vote, in the full document. It is worth noting that both events used in the Mueller prosecution took place after the election had already concluded, which prompts the question: wasn't Mueller's charge to uncover how Russia colluded to help elect Trump, and not how Trump was looking to de-escalate the abysmal diplomatic relations between Obama and Putin?

(read the rest) http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-01/statement-offense-here-full-michael-flynn-plea-agreement

Download Statement of the Offense: https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download

[enhanced_deficit]

That was quick, Newsweek has floated the I-word question already:

Will Trump Be Impeached Based on Michael Flynn’s Russia Revelations? By Nicole Goodkind On 12/1/17 at 1:56 PM

It is possible that special counsel Robert Mueller will soon have the evidence he needs to implicate President Donald Trump as having colluded with Russia to influence the outcome of the 2016 presidential election?
Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, pleaded guilty Friday morning to “willfully and knowingly making false, fictitious and fraudulent statements” to the FBI regarding his conversations with Russian ambassadors. As part of his plea deal, Flynn admitted that he was directed by a senior member of the Trump transition team to make contact with Russian officials in December 2016.

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-flynn-russia-impeachment-728883

[Swordsmyth]

Tempest in a teapot.

This will be just another tantalization of the "resistance" that comes to naught, they will add it to their list of grievances claiming that it should have gone somewhere and possibly it will be the "last straw" that pushes some of them into violence.

[Zippyjuan]

Wow. So talking to people in a foreign nation is illegal now?

You know you have gone full Marxist revolution/purge when new "laws" are pulled right out of the air, they are applied ex post facto and some animals are more equal than others.

Bill Clinton's impeachment crime was lying.

[Swordsmyth]

White House Lawyer Ty Cobb released the following statement on behalf of Trump:

Today, Michael Flynn, a former National Security Advisor at the White House for 25 days during the Trump Administration, and a former Obama administration official, entered a guilty plea to a single count of making a false statement to the FBI.
The false statements involved mirror the false statements to White House officials which resulted in his resignation in February of this year. Nothing about the guilty pleas or the change implicates anyone other than Mr. Flynn. The conclusion of this phase of the Special Counsel’s work demonstrates again that the Special Counsel is moving with all deliberate speed and clears the way for a prompt and reasonable conclusion.



https://www.yahoo.com/news/read-full-text-trump-administration-170939976.html

[Brian4Liberty]

Bill Clinton's impeachment crime was lying.

Thank you Captain Obvious. That's where the similarities end. Apparently Flynn lied about doing the work he was supposed to be doing. Clinton lied about having sex in the White House with an intern. Slight difference in the nature of the "crimes" (or non-crimes).

[Zippyjuan]

Thank you Captain Obvious. That's where the similarities end. Apparently Flynn lied about doing the work he was supposed to be doing. Clinton lied about having sex in the White House with an intern. Slight difference in the nature of the "crimes" (or non-crimes).

Consensual sex is a crime?

[enhanced_deficit]

Consensual sex is a crime?

Are you seriously "raising" this question and don't know difference between {"crimes" (or non-crimes)} and {crimes}?

[Swordsmyth]

Consensual sex is a crime?

He said "or non-crimes", both were alleged to be crimes but he casts doubt on the idea while pointing out the difference in morality between the two.

[Brian4Liberty]

Consensual sex is a crime?

Doing the job you are supposed to be doing is a crime?

As far as sex in the office, you'd better ask all of your hysterical leftist cohorts if that is a crime.

[Zippyjuan]

Clinton was guilty of lying to congress. Flynn guilty of lying to the FBI. It wasn't about whether what they lied about was a crime or not.

[Jan2017]

Clinton was guilty of lying to congress. Flynn guilty of lying to the FBI. It wasn't about whether what they lied about was a crime or not.

Ya'd think that a President Bill Clinton would have a higher standard of conduct than a campaign staff before a long-odds election win.
And Hillary Clinton lies to everybody.

[dannno]

Michael Flynn proves there is no evidence of Russia collusion
https://www.pscp.tv/Cernovich/1MnxngryqbMKO

[Zippyjuan]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/01/michael-flynn-shares-information-senior-trump-official-fbi-pleading/


Michael Flynn 'prepared to testify against Donald Trump' over Russia links


Donald Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn is reportedly prepared to testify against the US president as part of an FBI investigation into Russian interference in the presidential election.

The reports sent the US stock market plunging with the dollar diving 0.5 per cent against a basket of the leading global currencies.

Flynn is prepared to testify that President Donald Trump directed him to make contact with Russians when he was a presidential candidate, ABC News reported.

Jared Kushner, Mr Trump’s son-in-law, was also named in US media reports as another figure who asked Flynn to reach out to officials from Russia, among other countries.

The former adviser admitted lying to the FBI over his links to Russia today and has agreed to share information about a "very senior" official as part of a plea deal.

Flynn has also said that a senior member of Mr Trump's transition team directed him to make contact with Russian officials in December 2016.

The unnamed senior transition official at Mar- a-Lago directed Flynn to contact the Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak and Flynn reported back to the official, a US court has heard.


Kushner is believed to be the "unnamed senior official".

[TheCount]

https://i.giphy.com/media/TaNiLOpQhqhA4/giphy.webp

[dannno]

How is it testifying against someone when they didn't break the law?

The fake news media is so fucking stupid.

[dannno]

https://i.giphy.com/media/TaNiLOpQhqhA4/giphy.webp

Lol, you're such a tool..

[PierzStyx]

That was quick, Newsweek has floated the I-word question already:

Will Trump Be Impeached Based on Michael Flynn’s Russia Revelations? By Nicole Goodkind On 12/1/17 at 1:56 PM

It is possible that special counsel Robert Mueller will soon have the evidence he needs to implicate President Donald Trump as having colluded with Russia to influence the outcome of the 2016 presidential election?
Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, pleaded guilty Friday morning to “willfully and knowingly making false, fictitious and fraudulent statements” to the FBI regarding his conversations with Russian ambassadors. As part of his plea deal, Flynn admitted that he was directed by a senior member of the Trump transition team to make contact with Russian officials in December 2016.

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-flynn-russia-impeachment-728883

Good. The only problem is they'll stop impeaching people at some point. Impeach'em all, I say!

[FSP-Rebel]

936609471870074881

[Brian4Liberty]

Clinton was guilty of lying to congress. Flynn guilty of lying to the FBI. It wasn't about whether what they lied about was a crime or not.

Yes, we all know the charge is "lying".

And it certainly is about the reason for the fishing expedition. You can tell us it's not important when they come to your door to ask you a few questions.

"Mr. Zippy, have you ever posted subversive information on the internet?"
"Oh no, not me. Never."
"Well, we have proof that you did, off to the gulag with you."

or

"Mr. Zippy, have you evaded taxes?"
"Why no, I'm good comrade, always a dutiful citizen."
"We have information to the contrary. We have at least 100 instances where you did not pay the appropriate sales taxes. Each instance is punishable by not less than 1 year in jail and a $100,000 fine. Off to prison with you."

[Swordsmyth]

While initial reporting is portraying Flynn’s guilty plea as a major breakthrough in Mueller’s investigation of potential Trump-campaign collusion with the Russian regime, I suspect the opposite is true.
Speculation that Flynn is now cooperating in Mueller’s investigation stirred in recent days due to reports that Flynn had pulled out of a joint defense agreement (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/23/us/politics/flynn-mueller-russia-trump.html) (or “common interest” arrangement) to share information with other subjects of the investigation. As an ethical matter, it is inappropriate for an attorney whose client is cooperating with the government (or having negotiations toward that end) to continue strategizing with, and having quasi-privileged communications with, other subjects of the investigation and their counsel.
Nevertheless, as I explained in connection with George Papadopoulos (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/453264/donald-trump-george-papadopoulos-indictment-exculpatory-trump) (who also pled guilty in Mueller’s investigation for lying to the FBI), when a prosecutor has a cooperator who was an accomplice in a major criminal scheme, the cooperator is made to plead guilty to the scheme. This is critical because it proves the existence of the scheme. In his guilty-plea allocution (the part of a plea proceeding in which the defendant admits what he did that makes him guilty), the accomplice explains the scheme and the actions taken by himself and his co-conspirators to carry it out. This goes a long way toward proving the case against all of the subjects of the investigation.
That is not happening in Flynn’s situation. Instead, like Papadopoulos, he is being permitted to plead guilty to a mere process crime. A breaking report from ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael-flynn-charged-making-false-statements-fbi-documents/story?id=50849354) indicates that Flynn is prepared to testify that Trump directed him to make contact with the Russians — initially to lay the groundwork for mutual efforts against ISIS in Syria. That, however, is exactly the sort of thing the incoming national-security adviser is supposed to do in a transition phase between administrations. If it were part of the basis for a “collusion” case arising out of Russia’s election meddling, then Flynn would not be pleading guilty to a process crime — he’d be pleading guilty to an espionage conspiracy.
Understand: If Flynn’s conversations with the Russian ambassador had evinced the existence of a quid pro quo collusion arrangement — that the Trump administration would ease or eliminate sanctions on Russia as a payback for Russia’s cyber-espionage against the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic party — it would have been completely appropriate, even urgently necessary, for the Obama Justice Department to investigate Flynn. But if that had happened, Mueller would not be permitting Flynn to settle the case with a single count of lying to FBI agents. Instead, we would be looking at a major conspiracy indictment, and Flynn would be made to plead to far more serious offenses if he wanted a deal — cooperation in exchange for sentencing leniency.
To the contrary, for all the furor, we have a small-potatoes plea in Flynn’s case — just as we did in Papadopoulos’s case, despite extensive “collusion” evidence. Meanwhile, the only major case Mueller has brought, against former Trump-campaign chairman Paul Manafort (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/453305/paul-manafort-indictment-mystifying-enigmatic) and an associate, has nothing to do with the 2016 election. It is becoming increasingly palpable that, whatever “collusion” means, there was no actionable, conspiratorial complicity by the Trump campaign in the Kremlin’s machinations.

More at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454269/michael-flynn-plea-no-breakthrough-russia-investigation

[spudea]

I still have no idea what law was broken speaking to a Russian official by an incoming administration. For the FBI to be investigating legal activity is itself a miscarriage of justice.

[devil21]

Wow. So talking to people in a foreign nation is illegal now?

You know you have gone full Marxist revolution/purge when new "laws" are pulled right out of the air, they are applied ex post facto and some animals are more equal than others.

It's rather ironic that they're pushing the Logan Act angle (since Trump was already President-elect) yet many of our politicos violate the Logan Act constantly by attending Bilderberg meetings and the like and never is an eye batted.

The PPT sure stepped in and put a floor under the stock market. I've never seen a 200 point drop on the Dow happen in a millisecond when the headline hit the newswires. Looks like the bumpy ride is really about to start.



I still have no idea what law was broken speaking to a Russian official by an incoming administration. For the FBI to be investigating legal activity is itself a miscarriage of justice.

Seems that it's the Logan Act that is in question.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act

[spudea]

It's rather ironic that they're pushing the Logan Act angle (since Trump was already President-elect) yet many of our politicos violate the Logan Act constantly by attending Bilderberg meetings and the like and never is an eye batted.

The PPT sure stepped in and put a floor under the stock market. I've never seen a 200 point drop on the Dow happen in a millisecond when the headline hit the newswires. Looks like the bumpy ride is really about to start.




Seems that it's the Logan Act that is in question.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act

I know the Logan Act. This is common activity for an incoming administration, to establish relationships with foreign officials. I read that in 2009 there was an Obama campaign official establishing relationships in Moscow a few weeks before the general election. We know from the Podesta email leaks that the Hillary Campaign was in contact with Chinese officials to setup a meeting with their president.

Right FKING NOW, FORMER president Obama is travelling overseas and meeting with President Xi and other world leaders! Where's the Logan Act on that!!!!!!!

[Swordsmyth]

Observation and takeaways


The fact that Flynn spoke with the Russians in December, well after the election, has been known since February (http://archive.is/rnaPY).

Mueller’s “Statement of Offense” establishes is that there wasn’t an existing backchannel between the Trump campaign and Russia – at least through Flynn, as it pertains to pre-election collusion.

It’s perfectly reasonable to expect an incoming President to instruct his incoming National Security Advisor to establish a dialogue with a country like Russia over recent and contentious sanctions, as well as fighting ISIS in Syria.

If Flynn’s contact with Russia was related to “collusion” in regards to election meddling, he would be pleading guilty to an espionage conspiracy, not the “process crime” of lying to the FBI..

If Flynn were to now drop some new bombshell about greater Russian collusion, he would have lied to the FBI twice.





More at: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-01/did-flynns-plea-deal-just-disprove-election-collusion

[Swordsmyth]

Worse still, the indictment against Flynn wouldn’t have even been handed down decades ago. You see, there used to be this thing called the “exculpatory no.” Basically it means that if someone denied wrongdoing to the FBI, that denial could not be charged as a crime itself, especially when the person being questioned had not been read their right to remain silent. The “exculpatory no” was firmly rooted in the Fifth Amendment’s protection against forced self-incrimination before the Supreme Court took it away.

https://www.infowars.com/flynn-charged-for-lesser-crime-while-clinton-remains-free/

[Swordsmyth]

Flynn Charged With Lying to FBI, Clapper Still Free After Committing Clear Perjury

During testimony in 2013 in front of a congressional inquiry, Clapper was asked by Senator Ron Wyden if the NSA was collecting “any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans.”
“No, sir,” responded Clapper.
Senator Wyden asked “It does not?”
Director Clapper responded “Not wittingly. There are cases where they could inadvertently perhaps collect, but not wittingly.”
This was proven to be completely fraudulent three months later when whistleblower Edward Snowden revealed that the NSA was deliberately collecting tens of millions of Americans’ phone call records as well as browsing histories, chat logs, email usage, as well as their physical locations.
Clapper would have had a level of security clearance to know that this was taking place. He committed clear perjury by lying under oath, yet faced no consequences at all.

Clapper was also caught in a brazen lie when he denied that any surveillance targeting people linked to the Trump administration had taken place.
During a March 2017 appearance on Meet the Press with Chuck Todd, Clapper asserted that, “There was no such wiretap activity mounted against the president elect at the time, or as a candidate, or against his campaign.”
This was proven to be false by the revelation that Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort had been wiretapped both before and after the election.
Clapper himself partially admitted this during a September 2017 appearance on CNN when he told Don Lemon it was “conceivable” President Trump’s conversations could have been picked up during the course of the surveillance.
“Now we learn that there was, in fact, a FISA court order and it came from the FBI and Clapper, in his own words, claimed he would have known about that,” reported Mediaite (https://www.mediaite.com/columnists/remember-when-james-clapper-categorically-denied-any-wiretap-against-trump-campaign/). “And he denied it, unequivocally. Maybe he forgot all about the FISA order wiretapping Paul Manafort while he was in direct contact with Trump in his campaign and after the election.”

More at: https://www.infowars.com/flynn-charged-with-lying-to-fbi-clapper-still-free-after-committing-clear-perjury/

[Brian4Liberty]

Guess this makes Lois Lerner the smartest Constitutional scholar in recent memory...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv1IST4VVVU

[anaconda]

How is it testifying against someone when they didn't break the law?

The fake news media is so $#@!ing stupid.

My thoughts exactly. Why can't someone contact a Russian?

[enhanced_deficit]

Kushner Is Said to Have Ordered Flynn to Contact Russia

Now that the retired general has pleaded guilty, the president's son-in-law could be one of the next dominoes to fall.

December 1, 2017
Two former officials with the Trump transition team who worked closely with Flynn say that during the last days of the Obama administration, the retired general was instructed to contact foreign ambassadors and foreign ministers of countries on the U.N. Security Council, ahead of a vote condemning Israeli settlements. Flynn was told to try to get them to delay that vote until after Barack Obama had left office, or oppose the resolution altogether.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-12-01/kushner-is-said-to-have-ordered-flynn-to-contact-russia




Following news few days ago may have been realted to above developments:

"Donald Trump Wants Ivanka and Jared Kushner to Move Back Home to NYC" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?517242-quot-Donald-Trump-Wants-Ivanka-and-Jared-Kushner-to-Move-Back-Home-to-NYC-quot&)

[Jan2017]

Today, Michael Flynn, a former National Security Advisor at the White House for 25 days during the Trump Administration,
and a former Obama administration official, entered a guilty plea to a single count of making a false statement to the FBI.



This is the dumbest investigation ever.


That was quick, Newsweek has floated the I-word question already:

Will Trump Be Impeached Based on Michael Flynn’s Russia Revelations?



But rather, will Trump pardon the former Obama administration official Michael Flynn (?) . . .
maybe undeclared - but known to be - a foreign agent during tenure working for the 44th President -
and the perfect set-up man for the Committee to Re-elect a Democrat/Clinton machine, eh ?

CNN: White House claims Obama admin approved Flynn calls with Russian ambassador
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/362856-cnn-white-house-claims-obama-admin-approved-flynn-calls-with-russian

So much in the dumpster out back of the FBI for Mueller to go through still . . .

https://s19.postimg.org/ij9htasc3/hillaryclinton02.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/n55m1ndv3/)

.

[KEEF]

936805557029048321
I'm no fan of Trump but you have to admit when a report is so sloppily and irresponsibly, it gives more credence to claims of fake news.

[Valli6]

Soooooo...

quote from 11/09/15:

"Ambassador Cui Tiankai would like to have a meeting with Mr. Podesta at his earliest convenience. We don't know if he has a scheduler now, so could you please help us convey this meeting request? Amb. Cui would like to talk about the China-U.S. relations and other issues of mutual interest." https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/14145

quote from 01/07/16:

"Chinese Ambassador Cui invited me over to the residence Tuesday for a coffee and to make a request. He wants to have an informal, private, off the record get together with a few of us to discuss the next year and the current state of US-China affairs."
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44291

[Zippyjuan]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-agent-suspected-of-sending-anti-trump-texts-removed-from-mueller-team/


FBI agent suspected of sending anti-Trump texts removed from Mueller team

Special Counsel Robert Mueller removed a top FBI agent assigned to the investigation into Russian election meddling and any ties to Trump associates after learning of allegations that the agent had exchanged messages with another member of Mueller's team that were anti-Trump in nature.

The New York Times and Washington Post both published stories Saturday reporting the removal of Peter Strzok from the investigation. In a rare public statement Saturday, the special counsel's office confirmed Strzok was removed from the probe. The messages were reportedly discovered by the inspector general of the Justice Department during the course of an investigation into the FBI's handling of the Hillary Clinton email probe.

As deputy head of counterintelligence at the FBI, Strzok played a pivotal role in the investigation into Clinton's use of a private email server while she was secretary of state. Lisa Page, the other FBI agent involved in the communications, left the special counsel's office before it was aware of the accusations, according to the special counsel's office.

"Immediately upon learning of the allegations, the Special Counsel's Office removed Peter Strzok from the investigation," said Peter Carr, spokesman for the special counsel's office, in a statement to CBS News. "Lisa Page completed her brief detail and had returned to the FBI weeks before our office was aware of the allegations."



More at link.

[AZJoe]

ABC News Issues a major retraction and correction (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael-flynn-charged-making-false-statements-fbi-documents/story?id=50849354):


During a live Special Report, ABC News reported that a confidant of Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn said Flynn was prepared to testify that then-candidate Donald Trump instructed him to contact Russian officials during the campaign.

That source later clarified that during the campaign, Trump assigned Flynn and a small circle of other senior advisers to find ways to repair relations with Russia and other hot spots.

It was shortly after the election, that President-elect Trump directed Flynn to contact Russian officials on topics that included working jointly against ISIS.

[AZJoe]

This "russiagate" media narrative, most recently promulgated by ABC, is the most absurd of bizarro world absurdities.

So what if Flynn opened diplomatic dialogue with Russians.

Candidate Trump opened dialogue with the President of Mexico, and met in private. Where is the Mexicogate media circus?
Candidate Hillary and her staff had massive communications with the Saudis. Why is there no MSM Saudigate?
Both candidates and their staffs made direct contact with Israel and met in private meetings, as well as candidates Obama, prior Hillary, McCain and virtually most major candidates for the president as well as many senators going back a couple decades. Heck, Israel and Saudi both have lobbying organizations that directly fund campaigns and lawmaking. Why is there no Israelgate?

If you read the actual statement of offense against Flynn however, the only wrongdoing Flynn is accused of is lying to the FBI, not because of talking to Russians.

[AuH20]

Typical Israeli piece of garbage. Jared really reinforces the sterotype.

937025151715049477

[AZJoe]

From Caitlin Johnstone (https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/another-empty-bombshell-russiagate-story-d046d68fff9f):

If you read the actual Statement of Offense (http://edition.cnn.com/2017/12/01/politics/michael-flynn-court-filing/index.html) against Flynn, though, there’s nothing in there that lends any weight to the Russiagate narrative. Flynn did indeed lie to the FBI, which is a thought crime … What he lied about was the fact that he’d successfully asked the Russians through Kislyak not to overreact to the sanctions the outgoing Obama administration had slammed on them in December, an interaction which according to former Ambassador to Russia Jack Matlock would have been standard practice.

As Stephen Cohen wrote in The Nation (http://archive.is/ZQxxR#selection-1483.322-1495.24) earlier this year:


Communications, including meetings, between representatives of US presidents-elect and foreign capitals, particularly Moscow, have been “common practice” over the years, according to Jack Matlock, ambassador to Russia for Presidents Reagan and Bush; Matlock had previously arranged meetings in Moscow for President-elect Carter’s transition team. Moreover, Obama’s own Russia adviser, Michael McFaul, told The Washington Post recently that he visited Moscow in 2008, even before that year’s election, for talks with Russian officials. …

So this was Flynn trying to influence the Russians, not the other way around, which we see again in part four of the Statement of Offense (http://edition.cnn.com/2017/12/01/politics/michael-flynn-court-filing/index.html). Flynn requested that the Russians help kill a UN resolution on behalf of Israel, and that Russia refused, which is harmful to the Russian collusion narrative but says a lot about collusion with Israel (not that anyone will care). Reportedly (https://www.buzzfeed.com/aramroston/it-was-kushner-who-told-flynn-to-make-calls-about-israel-un?utm_term=.sbxZAXBlNp#.lbaq3e0wan) Flynn was instructed to make this request of “every member” of the UN Security Council, not just Russia. …

Since none of this is itself damning, Russiagaters have been focusing on the speculation that Mueller would have cut a plea deal with Flynn in order to receive devastating testimony against the Trump administration. From what we’ve learned so far, though, Flynn is expected to testify (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael-flynn-charged-making-false-statements-fbi-documents/story?id=50849354) that Trump had asked him to help orchestrate a collaboration with Russia in fighting ISIS in Syria, an agenda Trump has openly espoused (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump/trump-says-he-would-consider-alliance-with-russia-over-islamic-state-idUSKCN1052CJ) since long before the election.

Then there’s this interesting analysis (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454269/michael-flynn-plea-no-breakthrough-russia-investigation) published in the National Review …

More (https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/russiagate-explained-721cb5843857)

[Zippyjuan]

Asked at the news conference about reports that members of the Trump staff were in contact with Russia during the campaign, Trump said, "Nobody that I know of."


“It never happened,” Hicks says. “There was no communication between the campaign and any foreign entity during the campaign.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/11/donald-trump-russia-timeline-campaign-denials

[AZJoe]

Even the Leftist Jacobin get its:
Why Is There No Saudigate (https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/11/trump-russia-bush-saudi-arabia)?

For decades, the DC establishment has been on the payroll of a foreign terror state. But because it's Saudi Arabia, you won't hear a peep. …

Imagine if Russia — instead of doing what it has been accused of doing last year — had funded and facilitated an attack on US soil that killed thousandds of Americans. Then imagine that US policymakers, rather than punish the Kremlin by cutting diplomatic ties, imposing sanctions, seeking legal recourse, or all of the above, covered up its involvement in the attack and continued to treat it as a loyal ally.

Imagine if the president who presided over that attack had decades of intimate personal and financial ties to members of the Russian elite and subsequently spirited dozens of Russian nationals out of the country before law enforcement could interrogate them.

Imagine if, despite full knowledge of the Kremlin’s once and ongoing anti-American activities, successive presidents heaped praise on Russia’s authoritarian government, sold it weapons, and made regular pilgrimages to wine and dine with its leaders.

Imagine if an army of Russian lobbyists operated on Capitol Hill to ensure Washington’s pro-Kremlin line, eventually pressuring American leadership into actively assisting it in carrying out one of this decade’s worst war crimes.

Imagine if, at the end of all this, Donald Trump ran for president on an explicitly anti-Russia line, only to shamelessly reverse himself once elected, embrace the Russian leadership, and pursue policies that benefited them even more enthusiastically than his predecessors had.

It’s a pretty scary thought. Thankfully, in the real world, none of this applies to Russia. It does, however, perfectly describe Saudi Arabia. …

Since Trump became president, his administration has widened sanctions (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/20/trump-administration-puts-more-sanctions-on-russia-over-ukraine.html) against Russia; maintained (https://www.voanews.com/a/mattis-us-sanctions-will-stay-until-russia-changes-behavior/3998685.html) its rhetorical and material support of Ukraine (and publicly mused (http://thehill.com/policy/defense/347827-mattis-trump-admin-actively-reviewing-sending-ukraine-weapons) about sending Ukraine weapons … ; bombed (http://www.newsweek.com/trump-war-bombing-syria-challenge-russia-iran-629526) Russia’s ally, Syria; shot down (http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/19/middleeast/syrian-warplane-shot-down-russia-condemns/index.html) a Syrian warplane, which led to an escalatin (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06/19/us-shoot-down-syrian-jet-prompts-russian-threat.html)g series (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06/19/us-shoot-down-syrian-jet-prompts-russian-threat.html) of threats (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06/19/us-shoot-down-syrian-jet-prompts-russian-threat.html) between the United States and Russia; and forced (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41991683) state-funded Russian news channel RT to register as a foreign agent …

Now compare this to Trump’s relationship with Saudi Arabia. On the campaign trail, Trump was a strident anti-Saudi critic. … Once president, however, Trump performed a neat U-turn. He chose [Saudi Arabia] … to be the site of his first foreign trip as president … he happily took part in a sword dance (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/may/21/trump-joins-ceremonial-sword-dance-in-saudi-arabia-video), touched a glowing orb (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/22/world/middleeast/trump-glowing-orb-saudi.html), and bowed his head to receive a medal from the king, … He then lavished the country with praise (https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/05/trump-saudi-arabia-islam/527547/) in a major speech in Riyadh … He dutifully (and ludicrously) kept Saudi Arabia off (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38781302) his already ludicrous travel ban, … He’s ramped up (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-catastrophe-of-saudi-arabias-trump-backed-intervention-in-yemen) Obama’s policy of facilitating Saudi war crimes in Yemen and shows every sign (http://abcnews.go.com/International/truth-president-trumps-110-billion-saudi-arms-deal/story?id=47874726) of continuing to sell them billions of dollars’ worth of weapons. Most recently, he cheered on (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/06/donald-trump-saudi-arabia-corruption-crackdown-tweet) the crown prince’s consolidation of power. …

Trump has vast business interests (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/306990-trump-appeared-to-register-eight-companies-in-saudi-arabia) in Saudi Arabia, including eight (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/306990-trump-appeared-to-register-eight-companies-in-saudi-arabia) companies (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/306990-trump-appeared-to-register-eight-companies-in-saudi-arabia) tied to hotel interests … Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates pledged a combined $100 million (https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/21/529417148/saudis-and-the-uae-will-donate-100-million-to-a-fund-inspired-by-ivanka-trump) to his daughter’s fund … The country owns (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/exclusive-donald-trump-made-millions-saudi-government-article-1.2777211) the forty-fifth floor of Trump World Tower, and one of Trump’s appointees is even a registered (https://www.publicintegrity.org/2017/06/22/20938/trump-appointee-saudi-government-lobbyist) agent for Saudi Arabia.

In other words, there is far more evidence that Trump is a Saudi puppet than a Russian one. But you won’t hear Democrats level this accusation. How can they, when they know any criticism of ties to Saudi Arabia would be tantamount to criticizing their own party’s foreign policy establishment? …

it remains dumbfounding that the alleged Russian collusion is treated as an apocalyptic event while similar and far more insidious interference from Saudi Arabia over the course of decades is met with a collective shrug.

Over three decades, Saudi Arabia has successfully ingratiated itself at the highest levels of power in the United States. … provided favor after favor to American officials, … donated a steady stream of many millions of dollars to a bipartisan group of policymakers, including two of the country’s foremost political dynasties …

It’s done all this while openly spreading fundamentalist ideology and assisting extremists in carrying out attacks on Americans …

More (https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/11/trump-russia-bush-saudi-arabia)

[TheCount]

Typical Israeli piece of garbage. Jared really reinforces the sterotype.

Jared was born in New Jersey. Did you mean to use a different term?

[devil21]

I know the Logan Act. This is common activity for an incoming administration, to establish relationships with foreign officials. I read that in 2009 there was an Obama campaign official establishing relationships in Moscow a few weeks before the general election. We know from the Podesta email leaks that the Hillary Campaign was in contact with Chinese officials to setup a meeting with their president.

Right FKING NOW, FORMER president Obama is travelling overseas and meeting with President Xi and other world leaders! Where's the Logan Act on that!!!!!!!

Yeah, like I said, violating the Logan Act is common place. So it begs the question of what is really going on here? I know that Trump is not a "threat" to the establishment and anyone that argues otherwise is ignorant of the history and the current administration's composition. Why does the Logan Act matter now? And now ABC is lightly walking back yesterday's report but that could have been as simple as someone higher up telling them to STFU, instead of the story actually being inaccurate. It's all such a cf that one must wonder why?

I wasn't sure that the Logan Act of 1799 itself was still enforceable since pretty much no court cases or statutes put in effect before the 1930's is even allowed in court anymore, since the court system was converted into admiralty courts after the 1930 US bankruptcy, making prior law inadmissible. Needs research.



This "russiagate" media narrative, most recently promulgated by ABC, is the most absurd of bizarro world absurdities.

So what if Flynn opened diplomatic dialogue with Russians.

Candidate Trump opened dialogue with the President of Mexico, and met in private. Where is the Mexicogate media circus?
Candidate Hillary and her staff had massive communications with the Saudis. Why is there no MSM Saudigate?
Both candidates and their staffs made direct contact with Israel and met in private meetings, as well as candidates Obama, prior Hillary, McCain and virtually most major candidates for the president as well as many senators going back a couple decades. Heck, Israel and Saudi both have lobbying organizations that directly fund campaigns and lawmaking. Why is there no Israelgate?

If you read the actual statement of offense against Flynn however, the only wrongdoing Flynn is accused of is lying to the FBI, not because of talking to Russians.

My understanding of the Logan Act is that a violation is triggered when there is some official dispute between the US govt and the other country's govt and someone in a capacity as a "US official" steps out to negotiate with an official of that country without authorization.

Unless there is a dispute between the US and Mexico or the US and Saudi Arabia or the US and Israel the Logan Act doesn't apply. Due to the Syria situation at that time, a dispute between the US and Russia, however, could be asserted.

[Zippyjuan]

Yeah, like I said, violating the Logan Act is common place. So it begs the question of what is really going on here? I know that Trump is not a "threat" to the establishment and anyone that argues otherwise is ignorant of the history and the current administration's composition. Why does the Logan Act matter now? And now ABC is lightly walking back yesterday's report but that could have been as simple as someone higher up telling them to STFU, instead of the story actually being inaccurate. It's all such a cf that one must wonder why?

I wasn't sure that the Logan Act of 1799 itself was still enforceable since pretty much no court cases or statutes put in effect before the 1930's is even allowed in court anymore, since the court system was converted into admiralty courts after the 1930 US bankruptcy, making prior law inadmissible. Needs research.

Simply meeting with a foreign government official is not a violation of the Logan Act.

https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Logan+Act


Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply, himself or his agent, to any foreign government or the agents thereof for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.

[devil21]

Simply meeting with a foreign government official is not a violation of the Logan Act.

https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Logan+Act

Yeah thanks Zip. I added some about that distinction 2 minutes before you posted this.

[Raginfridus]

ABC News Issues a major retraction and correction (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael-flynn-charged-making-false-statements-fbi-documents/story?id=50849354):

During a live Special Report, ABC News reported that a confidant of Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn said Flynn was prepared to testify that then-candidate Donald Trump instructed him to contact Russian officials during the campaign.

That source later clarified that during the campaign, Trump assigned Flynn and a small circle of other senior advisers to find ways to repair relations with Russia and other hot spots.

It was shortly after the election, that President-elect Trump directed Flynn to contact Russian officials on topics that included working jointly against ISIS.
MSM whipping up controversy over Russiagate, when they could be investigating Trump, Clinton, and peers' two degrees of separation from crime bosses and bagmen. Shit, after Menendez, how many politicians are actually illicit bagmen?

[angelatc]

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/12/02/abc-news-suspends-brian-ross-over-serious-error-in-trumpflynn-report.html


ABC News announced Saturday that Chief Investigative Correspondent Brian Ross would be suspended for four weeks without pay over a botched "exclusive" about former national security adviser Michael Flynn.


Ross reported that Flynn would testify that Donald Trump had ordered him to make contact with Russians about foreign policy while he was still a candidate. The report raised the specter of Trump's impeachment and sent the stock market plummeting.

Later in the day, ABC issued a "clarification" to Ross's report, saying that Trump's alleged directive came after he'd been elected president. Ross himself appeared on "World News Tonight," several hours after the initial report, to clarify his error.

[angelatc]

Obama's State Department knew of, had "no problem" with Trump administration speaking to foreign dignitaries before Trump was sworn in:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vO3GNexHYI&t=28m25s

[angelatc]

937007006526959618

[devil21]

MSM whipping up controversy over Russiagate, when they could be investigating Trump, Clinton, and peers' two degrees of separation from crime bosses and bagmen. Shit, after Menendez, how many politicians are actually illicit bagmen?

Many celebrities are actually CIA spies so who knows. Not much is what it appears.

[enhanced_deficit]

http://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170509052617-donald-trump-michael-flynn-file-large-169.jpg





https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-agent-suspected-of-sending-anti-trump-texts-removed-from-mueller-team/

FBI agent suspected of sending anti-Trump texts removed from Mueller team

Special Counsel Robert Mueller removed a top FBI agent assigned to the investigation into Russian election meddling and any ties to Trump associates after learning of allegations that the agent had exchanged messages with another member of Mueller's team that were anti-Trump in nature.

More at link.




937025151715049477


"Russiagate" in itself seems like a wide fishing net being driven by powerful domestic political forces clash. A former close ally of Trump now becoming star witness for Mueller is not without peril for team Trump as this increases the chance to net some big fish.


Mr. Flynn’s plea raises the likelihood that he will give testimony in support of a potential obstruction of justice charge against Mr. Trump.
The basis for the possible obstruction charge against the president has been his efforts to get the F.B.I. director, James Comey, to shut down the Flynn investigation during a Feb. 14 meeting in the Oval Office, coupled with his multiple lies on the subject. Obstruction is plainly an impeachable offense: It’s the offense for which Richard Nixon was threatened with impeachment.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/01/opinion/michael-flynn-guilty-plea-takeaways.html

James Comey offers some biblical inspiration after Flynn guilty plea (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/01/james-comey-offers-some-biblical-inspiration-after-flynn-guilty-plea.html)
"But justice roll down like waters and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream," Comey wrote on Twitter and Instagram.

Comey didn't mention Flynn directly, but the former law enforcement official is connected to the Flynn case in several ways.

Tucker Higgins
In a 2013 file photo, then-FBI director nominee Jim Comey (R) applauds outgoing FBI director Robert Mueller in the Rose Garden at the White House.



Some critics are questioning if Kushner was "Making Zionism Great Again" or MAGA.

Looks like Robert Bridge at RT is turning on Kushner too:


Who Is Jared Kushner: Trump loyalist or Kissinger protege?

Robert Bridge is an American writer and journalist. He is author of the book, 'Midnight in the American Empire,' released in 2013.
Published time: 2 Dec, 2017

Never before in the annals of US politics has a top presidential adviser had more of an inside track for influencing the White House than Donald Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner. Will this turn out to be a problem for Trump in the future?

Name any major event over the course of Trump's first year in office and you will undoubtedly find the doleful face of Jared Kushner lurking somewhere in the crowd, gazing on with rapt attention (or is it somber satisfaction?), a bit like an apprentice trapped in the floodlights of ultimate power.
Beyond the question of Jared's omnipresence is his apparent knack for political survival. Although Trump tends to go through officials as rapidly as tweets, Jared has managed thus far to ride out the storm. Yet firing Jared – husband of Trump's daughter, Ivanka – would be more than your average political decision, which is probably why Trump should never have dabbled in nepotism to begin with. Or perhaps Jared Kushner remains in his top-level position not because he is the son-in-law of Donald Trump, or because he is so politically astute (thus far it would seem he is not), but precisely because some high-ranking people in the establishment want him there.
Whatever the case may be, it is notable that while Trump's main allies – guys like Mike Flynn, Steve Bannon and Reince Priebus (all of whom were loathed by the establishment folks, incidentally) – fell to the wayside one after another, Kushner is one of the only top officials left over from the original Trump lineup. And his popularity among the establishment elite appears untarnished.



(https://twitter.com/Amy_Siskind)Amy Siskind ✔ @Amy_Siskind

Looks like the regime has found the fall guy for the Comey firing:
“Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner urged him to fire former FBI Director James Comey .”

http://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushner-urged-trump-fire-fbi-director-james-comey-719340 … (https://t.co/ukINrD3f6Q)

11:34 AM - Nov 22, 2017 (https://twitter.com/Amy_Siskind/status/933373006579142657)

newsweek.com
Jared Kushner reportedly urged Trump to fire FBI Director James Comey

Trump's son-in-law and adviser argued Comey was unpredictable, sources say.

(https://t.co/ukINrD3f6Q)


https://www.rt.com/op-edge/411723-jared-kushner-trump-politics/





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Could Kushner be next to go? (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?513681-Could-Kushner-be-next-to-go&)

[enhanced_deficit]

Initial reporting is not always accurate and reporting on this fast evolving story at times is sketchy and should be read with many grains of salt.

That said, some Obama officials are jumping into the fray.


Legal experts: Trump's tweet could lead to obstruction of justice charges

By Jacqueline Thomsen - 12/02/17 06:55 PM EST

President Trump's tweet revealing that he knew former national security adviser Michael Flynn had lied to the FBI at the time of his firing has prompted ethics experts and political observers to question whether Mueller could probe the president for obstruction of justice.

Trump revealed that he knew about Flynn’s false statements in a tweet Saturday.
“I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies,” Trump tweeted.
“It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!”
Others quickly weighed in, including former Obama Department of Justice spokesman Matthew Miller.
“Oh my god, he just admitted to obstruction of justice,” Miller tweeted (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/362935-ex-obama-doj-official-trump-just-admitted-to-obstruction-of). “If Trump knew Flynn lied to the FBI when he asked Comey to let it go, then there is your case.”

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/362964-ethics-experts-trumps-tweet-could-lead-to-obstruction-of-justice




On unrelated note of macro political environment, if Trump went ahead with following reported plan, his political isolation will increase as will likely pace of ongoing investigations.

Trump poised to move U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and declare the ancient city the capital of Israel

November 30,2017
President Trump is preparing to formally declare Jerusalem the capital of Israel and order a review of the best way to move the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv, two officials said Thursday, actions that would reverse decades of U.S. policy and international peacemaking efforts, and could inflame the Arab world.

The White House hosted a high-level meeting Monday to discuss plans for transferring the embassy to the ancient holy city and to discuss a deadline Friday that requires the administration to notify Congress every six months if it will order the move — or issue a waiver, as previous administrations have done.
To the surprise of senior officials in attendance, Trump crashed the meeting with his own detailed agenda, according to a person familiar with White House deliberations.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-fg-trump-israel-20171130-story.html




Related


Trump went off on Manafort for suggesting he should not appear on Sunday shows: report
By Max Greenwood - 12/02/17
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/362958-trump-ripped-manafort-after-he-suggested-he-should-not-appear-on-sunday

No matter what Flynn says, the Trump family won't go to jail (http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/02/opinions/trump-family-wont-go-to-jail-pate-opinion/index.html)
Opinion CNN 1h ago

Trump transition official in email: Russia 'has just thrown the U.S.A election'

By Julia Manchester - 12/02/17 04:20 PM EST

http://thehill.com/sites/default/files/styles/thumb_small_article/public/blogs/mcfarlandkt_120316getty.jpg?itok=OeiP0DVj

President Trump's former deputy national security adviser K.T. McFarland told a friend in an email when she was on Trump's transition team that Russia "threw" the U.S. election to Trump, The New York Times reported Saturday.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/362951-trump-transition-official-in-email-russia-has-just-thrown-the-usa

[Swordsmyth]

Initial reporting is not always accurate and reporting on this fast evolving story at times is sketchy and should be read with many grains of salt.

That said, some Obama officials are jumping into the fray.


Legal experts: Trump's tweet could lead to obstruction of justice charges

By Jacqueline Thomsen - 12/02/17 06:55 PM EST

President Trump's tweet revealing that he knew former national security adviser Michael Flynn had lied to the FBI at the time of his firing has prompted ethics experts and political observers to question whether Mueller could probe the president for obstruction of justice.

Trump revealed that he knew about Flynn’s false statements in a tweet Saturday.
“I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies,” Trump tweeted.
“It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!”
Others quickly weighed in, including former Obama Department of Justice spokesman Matthew Miller.
“Oh my god, he just admitted to obstruction of justice,” Miller tweeted (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/362935-ex-obama-doj-official-trump-just-admitted-to-obstruction-of). “If Trump knew Flynn lied to the FBI when he asked Comey to let it go, then there is your case.”

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/362964-ethics-experts-trumps-tweet-could-lead-to-obstruction-of-justice

It's still not obstruction of justice, especially if Flynn gets the same excuse Hitlery did of having no intent to do wrong.





President Trump's former deputy national security adviser K.T. McFarland told a friend in an email when she was on Trump's transition team that Russia "threw" the U.S. election to Trump, The New York Times reported Saturday.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/362951-trump-transition-official-in-email-russia-has-just-thrown-the-usa

So she fell for the media lie, it doesn't mean anything.

[r3volution 3.0]

In a way, this annoys me.

Of all the reasons for which Trump should be loathed and run out of office, this one is fairly trivial.

Nonetheless,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChmUC0OysoU

[timosman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhHAPsXhbR8

[Raginfridus]

I don't get it. Even if Trump left the planet, he leaves behind Pence, a syphilis of the brain congress, a justice retributive system, and gangsters in the military. A swamp - a swamp he's done nothing either way to affect.

[Swordsmyth]

President Donald Trump (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/donald-trump.htm)'s personal lawyer John Dowd drafted the president's Saturday morning tweet that stated he fired former National Security (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/us/national-security.htm) Adviser Michael Flynn for lying not only to Vice President Mike Pence but also to the FBI (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/us/federal-bureau-of-investigation.htm), Dowd told ABC News Saturday.

The apparent admission by the president -- that he knew Flynn had lied to the FBI at the time of his firing -- seems to add a potentially explosive new dimension to the ongoing special counsel investigation.
If true, why then would Trump ask the FBI director to go easy on Flynn, as former FBI Director James Comey (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/issues/james-comey-firing.htm) later testified? The message set off renewed talk of potential evidence of obstruction of justice.
But now Dowd, corroborated by a second source familiar with the matter, said the tweet was not drafted by the president himself but rather by the lawyer -- and done so in a "sloppy" manner.

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trumps-lawyer-wrote-presidents-sloppy-tweet-flynns-dismissal-064207494--abc-news-topstories.html

[Gaddafi Duck]

It's astonishing how stupid people are. The latest example: the Left jumping all over Trump's tweet suggesting he fired Flynn for lying to Pence AND the FBI, and then telling Comey to not pursue Flynn.

Dorks, the President has several executive powers given he's in charge of the Executive Branch. One of the powers is that he's the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the country. If Comey can tell investigators to stop/go within the FBI, Comey's boss (Trump) can tell them to stop/go. In fact, it's his Constitutional power to do so, whereas Comey just has a statutory one.

Also, not sure how Trump could have obstructed justice given he has the authority to pardon anyone, which stops any investigation. Not sure how one could make the argument that Trump obstructed justice by ordering or hinting to stop an investigation when he himself can pardon anyone in the country, which then stops the investigation. It's moronic. It's just amazing how people are arguing the President and the DOJ and by extension the FBI are to be separate branches or something. They're not. You might as well say a lawmaker filibustering a bill is "obstructing justice" because they're preventing a bill from becoming law.

[Swordsmyth]

John Dowd, an attorney for Trump's private legal team, told CNN that the president's tweet "was a paraphrase" of a statement by White House special counsel Ty Cobb (https://www.upi.com/topic/Ty_Cobb/).
The statement doesn't refer to lying to the FBI but does mention "the false statements involved mirror the false statements to White House officials which resulted in his resignation in February of this year."

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/12/02/Trump-No-worries-Flynn-is-cooperating-with-special-investigation/1741512236780/?utm_source=upi&utm_campaign=mp&utm_medium=4

[AZJoe]

Yeah, like I said, violating the Logan Act is common place. ... I wasn't sure that the Logan Act of 1799 itself was still enforceable ... My understanding of the Logan Act is that a violation is triggered when there is some official dispute between the US govt and the other country's govt and someone in a capacity as a "US official" steps out to negotiate with an official of that country without authorization.

Unless there is a dispute between the US and Mexico or the US and Saudi Arabia or the US and Israel the Logan Act doesn't apply. Due to the Syria situation at that time, a dispute between the US and Russia, however, could be asserted.

It is not about Logan at all. That is a false distraction. No one is investigating under Logan. The Logan Act is a non-issue. Neither Flynn nor anyone else is being charged with the Logan Act. Mueller is not even considering the Logan Act. No one is and no one ever will be. The Logan Act is constantly violated day in and out on a massive scale. Yet, No one ever has been prosecuted under the Logan Act despite it being over two centuries old. Constitutional and legal scholarship of virtually every political stripe are near unanimous that the Logan Act would never stand Constitutional muster if anyone ever were prosecuted under it. The Logan Act is an impotent piece of ancient useless cobweb.

The Logan Act, 18 U.S.C. §953 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/953):
"Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply, himself or his agent, to any foreign government or the agents thereof for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects."


It bans private individuals from any "correspondence or intercourse" either "directly or indirectly" "in relation to any disputes or controversies". It covers all speech between a US citizen and any foreign government official. Its reach is over-broad. Its language unconstitutionally vague.
The Logan Act is both unconstitutionally vague and unconstitutionally over-broad, and directly violates of the guarantees of the First Amendment. It is a blanket ban on speech based upon content, topic , idea or message. Such laws are presumptive unconstitutional on their face.

The US government is in perpetual dispute with every nation at all times.

For instance Boycotting Israel and sending petitions for its concentration camp policy for Palestinians, or its official policy of bulldozing houses and stealing land of Palestinians to give to other individuals go against US policy, as well as calling out Israel for it nuclear arms and petitions to have it admit, stop and join the non-proliferation treaty or the IAEA, or all the sycophant politicians or candidates who go pledge undying support to its policies with the US conflict with US policy and are technically illegal under Logan. And the list of dispute or controversies goes on and one from human rights violations, to trade policies, to antagonism with neighbors, to its friendliness with Russia and China, to the nuclear arms, to interfering in US elections and vice versa, and on and on
Likewise Mexico is in dispute or controversy with he US over the border wall and illegal immigration and deportations, and border patrol skirmishes with Mexican agents, border Coyotes, and cartels. Yet candidate Trump met with Mexico's president to discuss these disputes and controversies.
Saudi Arabia likewise has an avalanche of disputes and controversies with the US, from oil price, to oil sales, to human rights violations, to spreading and funding Wahhabism, to sovereign wealth fund activities, to trade policy, cooperation with China and so forth. Yet politicians and candidates prostrate themselves and discuss these issues on a regular basis with Saudis, even to be lobbied and receive campaign funds, as well as business and private individuals correspond and discussing theses issues with Saudis.
Every AIPAC, Saudi and other lobbyist in the US that meets and communicates with any foreign government official about any issues of controversy is violating the act.
Tulsi Gabbard's visit with Syrian officials and suggestion that US should stop funding and arming terrorists, stop demanding Assad must resign, violates the act.

Mueller has not even mentioned Logan and will never charge anyone with Logan. No prosecutor with any iota of competence ever will, because it is dead in the water before it starts. Because no one has ever been prosecuted under the Act despite its over two hundred years of existence, no court has ever had opportunity to review. The only reported case mentioning the Logan Act, was in dicta only and stating it was likely unconstitutional on its face. Waldron v. British Petroleum Co., 231 F. Supp. 72 (S.D.N.Y. 1964)

[AZJoe]

Dershowitz take (http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/12/02/dershowitz-flynn-plea-is-a-show-of-weakness-for-mueller/):

Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz argued that former Trump National Security Adviser Michael Flynn’s guilty plea is a “show of weakness” for Special Counsel Robert Mueller. …

“the last thing any prosecutor wants to do is to have to indict his primary witness for lying. Because if you indict your witness for lying, it really means he’s not useful as a witness, he has no credibility. I’m sure the prosecutor was trying to indict him for some scheme or conspiracy that involved other people in the White House, but there is nothing there, and he had to, finally come down and indict him for lying, which makes him a useless witness. So, this is not a show of strength by the prosecutor. It’s a show of weakness. It’s a show that they really have nothing on anybody above of Flynn … the two things he lied about were perfectly lawful and perfectly proper for somebody to do during the transition. And so, I think it really reflects a weakness, not a strength in Mueller’s prosecution.” …

Mueller is “going on the domino theory …You go for the lowest-hanging fruit. You indict people for lying to the FBI, failing to fill out the proper forms. These are forms of essentially political jaywalking, then you squeeze them and you hope that maybe they’ll give you information that would lead to somebody higher up. But in the end, it’s hope over reality. So, I would not say this is a day for celebrating for the prosecution in the Mueller office.”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2RuO89ngAY

[enhanced_deficit]

It's still not obstruction of justice, especially if Flynn gets the same excuse Hitlery did of having no intent to do wrong.



Wow. So talking to people in a foreign nation is illegal now?

You know you have gone full Marxist revolution/purge when new "laws" are pulled right out of the air, they are applied ex post facto and some animals are more equal than others.

Not clear how much of it is factual or editorialized view but following are some of the "legal" arguments being floated in media.
I'm of the opinion that this issue is at least as much political as legal especially if target of investigation goes beyond inner orbit of President Trump.



Is Kushner in trouble?

And what that deal would involve would deeply interest Mueller, partly if it involves benefits that would not merely accrue to Trump’s presidency, but to Kushner’s personal fortune. Writing (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-12-02/timing-of-flynn-s-lies-shows-risks-to-kushner) for Bloomberg News, Timothy O’Brien, a Trump biographer, said Kushner’s interests with Russia and Israel may extend well beyond his father-in-law’s foreign policy considerations. Kushner’s family is in debt because of its ownership of a Manhattan office tower and Mueller is intrigued about a meeting Kushner took with a banker during the transition. (Kushner has said he met with the banker because of his close ties to Russian president Vladimir Putin, and for no other reason.) He has also in his real estate dealings partnered (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/26/us/politics/jared-kushner-beny-steinmetz.html)with one of Israel’s wealthiest families.

There’s more: Kushner reportedly pressed his father to sack then-FBI director James Comey in May. Comey was investigating the very events that have entangled Flynn — and, we now know, Kushner.

So we’re back to the Logan Act. Have the Democrats noticed?

You bet. “This shows a Trump associate negotiating with the Russians against U.S. policy and interests before Donald Trump took office and after it was announced that Russia had interfered in our election,” Bloomberg quoted Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., as saying. “That’s a stunning revelation and could be a violation of the Logan Act, which forbids unauthorized U.S. citizens from negotiating with a foreign power.”

https://www.jta.org/2017/12/03/news-...ner-and-israel (https://www.jta.org/2017/12/03/news-opinion/politics/what-flynns-plea-could-mean-for-kushner-and-israel)

Kushner May Fry for Trying to Block Obama’s UNSC Betrayal of Israel



December 2, 2017

On Dec. 23, 2016, the UN Security Council voted to condemn Israeli settlements, with 14 members voting yes and a US abstention. The resolution said Israel’s settlements in the territories it liberated in 1967 including eastern Jerusalem, had “no legal validity” and were a “flagrant violation” of international law, and demanded that “all Israeli settlement activities” be put on hold, because this “is essential for salvaging the two-state solution.”

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, fearing just this kind of betrayal, spent the days leading up to the vote, according to Reuters, in a desperate effort to prevent or at least delay to UN vote. He called “high level” officials on President-elect Trump’s transition team, asking for help. According to Michael Flynn’s confession, as recorded in court documents made public on Friday, a high ranking member of the transition team, identified by sources as Jared Kushner, instructed Flynn on the day before the vote to contact UNSC member governments, Russia included, conveying a message from the next president of the United States asking them to delay or vote against the resolution.

Flynn confessed that he contacted then-Russian Ambassador to the US Sergei Kislyak both on the Thursday before and on the Friday of the vote. Kislyak refused the request both times. Flynn also contacted the Uruguay and Malaysia UN missions. Kushner contacted the British ambassador to the United States.
Earlier, according to Reuters, President-elect Trump contacted Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, and got him to withdraw the original draft, which had been submitted by the Egyptian delegation. The Friday vote was initiated by New Zealand, Malaysia, Senegal and Venezuela.
Which brings us back to the Logan Act, signed into law by President John Adams on January 30, 1799. It was a response to a Philadelphia Quaker named George Logan who had tried to negotiate directly with the French government, ignoring the policy of the Federalist party which was in control of Congress and the White House. It goes:


“Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.”
In United States v. Curtiss-Wright Export Corp., 299 U.S. 304 (1936), Justice Sutherland, writing for the Court, observed: “[T]he President alone has the power to speak or listen as a representative of the nation. He makes treaties with the advice and consent of the Senate; but he alone negotiates. Into the field of negotiation the Senate cannot intrude; and Congress itself is powerless to invade it. As Marshall said in his great argument of March 7, 1800, in the House of Representatives, ‘The President is the sole organ of the nation in its external relations, and its sole representative with foreign nations.'”
If Flynn is to be believed, then Jared Kushner indeed violated the Logan Act, of all things to prevent Israel from being shamed publicly.

http://www.jewishpress.com/news/us-news/kushner-may-fry-for-trying-to-block-obamas-unsc-betrayal-of-israel/2017/12/02/


First article also refers to Trump as Kushner's "father", so perhaps things are being pushed out in a hurry.



So she fell for the media lie, it doesn't mean anything.

Yes, very possible.

[enhanced_deficit]

In a way, this annoys me.

Of all the reasons for which Trump should be loathed and run out of office, this one is fairly trivial.


Many things in MSM news tend to be trivial in reality but underlying news here might be tad bit less trivial than Clinton-Monica scandal over which America was gripped with Clinton impeachment proceedings for over a year.


Jared Kushner Failed to Disclose He Led a Foundation Funding Illegal Israeli Settlements Before U.N. Vote
12/3/17
http://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushne...e-house-729290 (http://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushner-disclosure-form-west-bank-settlements-israel-white-house-729290)

9/11 was to punish U.S. for Israel policy: Philip Zelikow 9/11 Commission Exec. Dir. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHely2_KkC4&list=PLfrlsC1yJ2dRtvvzX47VwYbu6X-cQuvMM)

Israel targeted under law passed to help 9/11 families sue Saudis
In a 103-page complaint filed Feb. 1, attorney Martin F. McMahon alleges that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, as well as U.S. charities tied to President Donald Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner and Trump's Israel ambassador pick David Friedman, are complicit in war crimes against Palestinians because of their financial support for settlement activity in the West Bank.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/lawsuit-9-11-families-saudis-israel-234700

Abbas envoys warn Kushner peace talks end if US backs Israeli claim to Jerusalem
i24NEWS 11h ago





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhHAPsXhbR8

Wow, talk about jumping way ahead of actual situation. Good thing Meghan McCain was there to keep it under control.


Kushner may lack experience but to be fair some of the recent views critical of him may have crossed the line:


Caution Graphic Language: Bill Maher called Kushner "a ****ing idiot"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahpp27WAT2M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahpp27WAT2M

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGppFdlLaKI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE05NDSmafY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE05NDSmafY


Muhammad bin Kushner, Jared bin Salman, Daffy Duck & Co

The problem with Daffy Duck, if you recall, is how, with his very limited mental means and compromised moral imagination, he is always trying to cover up his natural cowardice with vainglorious misadventures.
Here (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1ylm6x) he is posing as a fast-drawing gunslinger pulling his guns to threaten some big men playing poker in a saloon - unaware he has actually pulled down his own pants and exposed his colourful underwear.

The same is with the two rich daddy's boys - Jared Kushner and Mohammed bin Salman - who are now so intertwined we get their names mixed up as they are committing war crimes in Yemen, throwing the Palestinian cause under the bus, reforming Islam Israeli-style, causing mayhem in Lebanon (http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/11/coming-grips-fear-war-lebanon-171118100917115.html), and hope to begin bombing Iran and to invade with the last American soldier their petrodollars and AIPAC lobby can buy.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/muhammad-bin-kushner-jared-bin-salman-daffy-duck-171203092338779.html


“Morning Joe” co-hosts claim that the White House (Kushner) attempted to blackmail the morning show
https://www.thewrap.com/jared-kushner-told-morning-joe-to-apologize-to-trump-report/

[Jan2017]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhHAPsXhbR8

The 'hens' and Twitter are in a tizzy over this - that's sad.

People Really Appreciate The Irony Of Michael Flynn’s ‘Lock Her Up’ Chant


The “lock her up” chant had arisen out of Clinton’s use of a private email server while she was secretary of state,
which the FBI investigated last year. But Clinton was never charged with anything.

“If I did a tenth, a tenth of what she did, I would be in jail,” said Flynn during the convention.

His actions then, the current charges and his guilty plea have sent Twitter users into a tizzy.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michael-flynn-lock-her-up-irony_us_5a218094e4b0a02abe90dc55

Michael Flynn Led a 'Lock Her Up' Chant at the Republican Convention. Now He's Charged With Lying to the FBI


After leading the crowd in a chant of “lock her up,” a common occurrence at Trump rallies but an unusual one
for a national convention, Flynn then cited his national security background to bolster the case.

“You know why we’re saying that?” he said. “We’re saying that because if I, a guy who knows this business,
if I did a tenth, a tenth of what she did, I would be in jail today.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/michael-flynn-led-apos-lock-154734349.html

[AuH20]

Please do this Deep State. Then the voting charade can end.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGa8IyRpV-k

[Swordsmyth]

Please do this Deep State. Then the voting charade can end.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGa8IyRpV-k

Hype.

[enhanced_deficit]

Caution that such fast moving story media reports should be read with many grains of salt:


December 3, 2017

Flynn plea is ominous

Fleeting former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn’s indictment and plea Friday – and the fact that three others associated with the Trump administration have also been charged in its first year – looks terrible.

But it could get worse – much worse – for this administration if Flynn or others in the loop have damaging information and turn on the White House. Speculation has run rampant that short-term adviser George Papadopoulos may have worn a wire to record conversations.

Flynn’s capitulation is not a good sign for Mr. Trump – who may not have done anything wrong in his camp’s contacts with Russian officials, but may have in trying to blunt an investigation of them.







Was Michael Flynn asked to wear a wire in Mueller hunt for evidence on Russia?

Plea agreement includes clause showing Flynn consented to participate in ‘covert law enforcement activities” if required

(https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/03/michael-flynn-plea-agreement-mueller-russia#img-1) Marcia Chambers and Charles Kaiser
Sunday 3 December 2017

The least-noticed sentence in Michael Flynn’s plea agreement with special counsel Robert Mueller (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/robert-mueller) may also be the most important one.

Section eight of the deal (https://www.scribd.com/document/366052470/Flynn-Plea-Agreement-2) reached by Donald Trump’s former national security adviser in the inquiry into Russian meddling in the US election is entitled “cooperation”. It specifies that as well as answering questions and submitting to government-administered polygraph tests, Flynn’s cooperation “may include … participating in covert law enforcement activities”.

Long-time students of federal law enforcement practices agreed, speaking anonymously, that “covert law enforcement activities” likely refers to the possibility of wearing a concealed wire or recording telephone conversations with other potential suspects. It is not known whether Flynn has worn a wire at any time.


“If the other subjects of investigation have had any conversations with Flynn during the last few months, that phrase must have all of them shaking in their boots,” said John Flannery, a former federal prosecutor in the southern district of New York.

“The one who must be particularly terrified is [Trump son-in-law and adviser] Jared Kushner, if he spoke to the special counsel’s office without immunity about the very matter that is the subject of Flynn’s plea. I think he must be paralyzed if he talked to Flynn before or after the investigators debriefed him.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/03/michael-flynn-plea-agreement-mueller-russia



For some reason, Newsweek has gone more negative on Jared:



Jared Kushner Can’t Pass His Security Clearance Investigation, Officials Say

By Chris Riotta On 12/1/17
http://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushner-security-clearance-white-house-access-ivanka-donald-trump-723993




Jared Kushner’s parents donated tens of thousands to settlement groups
Trump's son-in-law sits on board of parents' foundation; grantees also include Israeli hospitals, US Jewish schools
JTA

Jared Kushner Failed to Disclose He Led a Foundation Funding Illegal Israeli Settlements Before U.N. Vote

12/3/17
http://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushne...e-house-729290 (http://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushner-disclosure-form-west-bank-settlements-israel-white-house-729290)


On a side note, turns out Kushner's father had had some unfortunate interaction with GOP Presidential candidate turned Trump ally Chris Chistie few years back:


Attorney (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Attorney_for_the_District_of_New_Jersey) Chris Christie (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Christie) negotiated a plea agreement (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plea_agreement) with Kushner, under which he pleaded guilty (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guilty_plea) to 18 counts of illegal campaign contributions, tax evasion, and witness tampering (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witness_tampering).[14] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Kushner#cite_note-ApologyNYT-14) The witness-tampering charge arose from Kushner's act of retaliation against William Schulder, his sister Esther's husband, who was cooperating with federal investigators; Kushner hired a prostitute to seduce his brother-in-law, arranged to record an encounter between the two, and had the tape sent to his sister.[15] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Kushner#cite_note-smothers-15)[16] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Kushner#cite_note-16)[17] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Kushner#cite_note-Cloud-17)[14] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Kushner#cite_note-ApologyNYT-14) Kushner was sentenced to two years in prison,[15] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Kushner#cite_note-smothers-15) and served 14 months at Federal Prison Camp, Montgomery (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Prison_Camp,_Montgomery) in Alabama[18] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Kushner#cite_note-Sommer-18)[19] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Kushner#cite_note-Widdicombe-19) before being sent to a halfway house (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halfway_house) in Newark, New Jersey (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newark,_New_Jersey), to complete his sentence.[18] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Kushner#cite_note-Sommer-18)[19] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Kushner#cite_note-Widdicombe-19)[20] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Kushner#cite_note-20) He was released from prison on August 25, 2006.[21] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Kushner#cite_note-21)



President Donald Trump (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/donald-trump.htm)'s personal lawyer John Dowd drafted the president's Saturday morning tweet that stated he fired former National Security (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/us/national-security.htm) Adviser Michael Flynn for lying not only to Vice President Mike Pence but also to the FBI (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/us/federal-bureau-of-investigation.htm), Dowd told ABC News Saturday.

The apparent admission by the president -- that he knew Flynn had lied to the FBI at the time of his firing -- seems to add a potentially explosive new dimension to the ongoing special counsel investigation.
If true, why then would Trump ask the FBI director to go easy on Flynn, as former FBI Director James Comey (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/issues/james-comey-firing.htm) later testified? The message set off renewed talk of potential evidence of obstruction of justice.
But now Dowd, corroborated by a second source familiar with the matter, said the tweet was not drafted by the president himself but rather by the lawyer -- and done so in a "sloppy" manner.

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trumps-lawyer-wrote-presidents-sloppy-tweet-flynns-dismissal-064207494--abc-news-topstories.html



That is quite plausible defense.
Though many in media as expected are not convinced:

Dec 3, 2017
Believe Trump's Lawyer Wrote That Crazy 'Firing Flynn' Tweet? I've Got Some Great Swampland For You

Victor Lipman
https://www.forbes.com/sites/victorlipman/2017/12/03/believe-trumps-lawyer-wrote-that-crazy-firing-flynn-tweet-ive-got-some-great-swampland-for-you

[enhanced_deficit]

UN resolution against Israeli settlements at center of Flynn guilty plea



Mueller probing Kushner’s 2016 attempts to block UNSC settlement resolution

Ex-Trump adviser Flynn charged with lying to FBI in Russia probe



December 1, 2017
In the lead up to the anti-settlement resolution which angered Jerusalem, Trump’s team had urged the US to veto the resolution.
Jerusalem Post


Jared Kushner Failed to Disclose He Led a Foundation Funding Illegal Israeli Settlements Before U.N. Vote

12/3/17
http://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushner-disclosure-form-west-bank-settlements-israel-white-house-729290





Be interesting to see if current shadow Sec of State Kushner will issue a press release in response to this news:


Palestinian farmer, 48, killed by settlers on his land in Qusra

December 1, 2017
http://19453-presscdn.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/302085_243836405668945_107551092630811_790082_8914 006_n-600x340.jpg
Uprooted olive tree in Qusra village, from Qusra.net

Israeli settlers open fire on Palestinian farmers, killing 1, injuring another (http://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=779546)
NABLUS (Ma‘an) 30 Nov — A Palestinian farmer was shot dead by Israeli settlers on Thursday while he was working on his land near the village of Qusra, to the south of Nablus in the northern occupied West Bank, according to local sources. An official who monitors settlement activity in the northern West Bank told Ma‘an that Israeli settlers from the illegal Yash Kod settlement outpost raided Palestinian lands near Qusra and attacked a farmer, Mahmoud Ahmad Zaal Odeh, 48, as he was working the land. According to locals, Odeh attempted to prevent the settlers from entering his land, at which point, the settlers opened fire on him, shooting him in the chest.
http://mondoweiss.net/2017/12/palest...rmer-settlers/




Related

Settlers from Kushner family-funded community attack 3 Israeli grandmothers (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?510671-Settlers-from-Kushner-family-funded-community-attack-3-Israeli-grandmothers&)

[enhanced_deficit]

Apparently it's "impeachment investigation" now for many in media and some Dem leaders.
From Drudge:


MAG: Impeachment Investigation... (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454311/mueller-strategy-obstruction-justice-investigation-leading-impeachment)

It Is Now an Obstruction Investigation

by Andrew C. McCarthy December 4, 2017

Which means that it’s an impeachment investigation The smoke is clearing from an explosive Mueller investigation weekend of charges, chattering, and tweets. Before the next aftershock, it might be helpful to make three points about where things stand. In ascending order of importance, they are:

1.) There is a great deal of misinformation in the commentariat about how prosecutors build cases.

2.) For all practical purposes, the collusion probe is over. While the “counterintelligence” cover will continue to be exploited so that no jurisdictional limits are placed on Special Counsel Robert Mueller, this is now an obstruction investigation.

3.) That means it is, as it has always been, an impeachment investigation.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454311/mueller-strategy-obstruction-justice-investigation-leading-impeachment





On RINO/GINO front:

GOP strategist: Impeachment 'closer' than people think By Joe Concha - 12/04/17

Asked by Stephanopoulos if special council Robert Mueller "posed an existential threat" to the President Trump given former national security adviser Michael Flynn (http://thehill.com/person/michael-flynn)'s guilty plea on Friday, the veteran strategist said "I don’t see that yet."

"All we have seen is charges for tax evasion and lying to the FBI. You know, only in Washington is it an industry that people go to jail for covering up crimes they don’t commit as a standard procedure," he said."But combined two converging currents, the Mueller investigation, looking for that obstruction of justice charge, and then Alabama," he continued. "Roy Moore coming to the Senate possibly in a week. And he becomes the face of the Republican Party for the next year when we’re already in danger of losing the House. It’s likely we’ll do that without him, lose the House. Trump gets impeached."
"We’re closer to impeachment now than we think," Castellanos concluded.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/363088-gop-strategist-impeachment-closer-than-people-think





Related

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/misc/poll_posticon.gif Poll: Heaven forbid, IF Trump term/GOP agenda is jeopardized due to Israeli ambassador's action (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?517422-Heaven-forbid-IF-Trump-term-GOP-agenda-is-jeopardized-due-to-Israeli-ambassdor-s-action&)

[enhanced_deficit]

On unrelated note of macro political environment, if Trump went ahead with following reported plan, his political isolation will increase as will likely pace of ongoing investigations.

Trump poised to move U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and declare the ancient city the capital of Israel

November 30,2017
President Trump is preparing to formally declare Jerusalem the capital of Israel and order a review of the best way to move the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv, two officials said Thursday, actions that would reverse decades of U.S. policy and international peacemaking efforts, and could inflame the Arab world.

The White House hosted a high-level meeting Monday to discuss plans for transferring the embassy to the ancient holy city and to discuss a deadline Friday that requires the administration to notify Congress every six months if it will order the move — or issue a waiver, as previous administrations have done.
To the surprise of senior officials in attendance, Trump crashed the meeting with his own detailed agenda, according to a person familiar with White House deliberations.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-fg-trump-israel-20171130-story.html




Trump could shift position on this:

Trump Delays Final Decision on Moving U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem, White House Says

France's Macron tells Trump he's worried about U.S. recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital ■ Saudi Arabia's ambassador to the U.S. says any Trump move on Jerusalem would hurt the peace process and heighten regional tensions

Amir Tibon (Washington)
Dec 05, 2017 3:56 AM

Over the weekend, senior Palestinian officials warned that U.S. recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital or the relocation of the American embassy would put an end to peace talks (https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.826348).

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.826831






Related

"Donald Trump Wants Ivanka and Jared Kushner to Move Back Home to NYC" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?517242-quot-Donald-Trump-Wants-Ivanka-and-Jared-Kushner-to-Move-Back-Home-to-NYC-quot&)

[Schifference]

Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Trump must be deranged. Why would anyone ever want to be president? No person in this day and age can successfully be president that goes against liberal ideology.

[Schifference]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_iQqc5bwsU

[Todd]

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/12/01/the-scalp-taking-of-gen-flynn/


For Americans who worry about how the pervasive surveillance powers of the U.S. government could be put to use criminalizing otherwise constitutionally protected speech and political associations, Flynn’s prosecution represents a troubling precedent

[enhanced_deficit]

.. Why would anyone ever want to be president? ..

Not sure if it was fakenews or not but there were some rumors going around earlier that Trump wanted to become President after Obama insulted him at a White House dinner party.

[Swordsmyth]

Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Trump must be deranged. Why would anyone ever want to be president? No person in this day and age can successfully be president that goes against liberal ideology.

With Ron and Rand it is a good kind of crazy, I think with Trump it is a case of megalomania. (or is it MAGAlomania?)


Definition of megalomania 1 : a mania (see mania (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mania) 2a) for great or grandiose performance

an outburst of wildly extravagant commercial megalomania
—The Times Literary Supplement (London)



2 : a delusional mental illness (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mental illness) that is marked by feelings of personal omnipotence (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/omnipotence) and grandeur (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/grandeur)




MAGAlomania would entail that he wants to go down in history as the man who "Saved America"

[Jamesiv1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_iQqc5bwsU
Trey Gowdy is a Boss.

[Jan2017]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_iQqc5bwsU


Trey Gowdy is a Boss.

Trey Gowdy on the case is a help - grossly negligent is the statutory language of the criminal action.

FBI agent dismissed from Mueller probe changed Comey's description of Clinton to 'extremely careless'

Washington (CNN)A former top counterintelligence expert at the FBI, now at the center of a political uproar for exchanging private messages (http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/02/politics/fbi-agent-removed-trump-investigation/index.html)that appeared to mock President Donald Trump, changed a key phrase in former FBI Director James Comey's description of how former secretary of state Hillary Clinton handled classified information, according to US officials familiar with the matter.

Electronic records show Peter Strzok, who led the investigation of Hillary Clinton's private email server as the No. 2 official in the counterintelligence division, changed Comey's earlier draft language describing Clinton's actions as "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless," the sources said.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/04/politics/peter-strzok-james-comey/index.html

Ousted FBI agent in Mueller probe softened language in Clinton email case
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ousted-fbi-agent-in-mueller-probe-softened-language-in-clinton-email-case/

[enhanced_deficit]

Media coverage on this getting bit out of hand:


‘Morning Joe’: Trump Team ‘Going to Jail ... for the Rest of Their Lives’

‘But the most remarkable thing about it is that even now that he’s president, it’s still all about money’
Dec 5, 2017

https://caching2.grabien.com/pictures/waveforms/0297/297397.png0:00 / 3:15
As the "noose" of Robert Mueller's probe into the Trump team's contacts with Russia is "tightening," members of the administration are starting to understand they're going "to jail ... for the rest of their lives," MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski said Tuesday.
"Knowing them, I think they're shocked that the noose is tightening," Brzezinski said. "I don't know if they were arrogant or incredibly un-self aware and really dumb about what the job was about, how important it was, and how under the microscope every move you made would be. I think they just thought they'd go in there and riff through it. And I think they're shocked that the noose is tightening and that people might go to jail."
"You're exactly right," her co-host and fiancé, Joe Scarborough, agreed.
"For the rest of their lives," Brzezinski added, perhaps hopefully.
Trump, Scarborough said, only ran for president as part of a money-making scheme, and did not actually expect to win.



Mueller Just Crossed Trump’s Red Line

The special prosecutor has demanded Deutsche Bank turn over financial information about Trump and his family.

Bess Levin


December 5, 2017

Back in July, The New York Times asked Donald Trump how he would react if Robert Mueller started looking into his finances beyond the Russia investigation. At the time, the president said he couldn’t say whether he would fire the special prosecutor because he was fairly confident Mueller wouldn’t go there, warning that it would be “a violation” if he did. Now, we may get to find out: Bloomberg reports that Mueller issued a subpoena to Deutsche Bank several weeks ago, demanding that it turn over documents pertaining to its “relationship with Trump and his family.” In a statement, the bank indicated it would comply with the request, saying “Deutsche Bank always cooperates with investigating authorities in all countries.”

The development seemed likely to send the already unraveling Trump into a tailspin, but by Tuesday afternoon the president had declined to comment on the story, via his Twitter account or otherwise. His legal team, on the other hand, released a statement openly countering the news: “no subpoena has been issued or received” by Deutsche Bank, White House lawyer Jay Sekulow said in a statement, adding that “we have confirmed this with the bank and other sources.” A Fox News report echoed Sekulow, but at least three other outlets purported to have independently confirmed the news.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/12/mueller-trump-deutsche-bank






https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.m3CwdS8EOFl_yyfKefAzMQEpDS&pid=15.1&P=0&w=264&h=188
WIRE: MUELLER SUBPOENAS TRUMP DEUTSCHE BANK RECORDS... (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-deutsche-bank/deutsche-bank-receives-subpoena-from-mueller-on-trump-accounts-source-idUSKBN1DZ0XN)
Congress to Grill President's Longtime Assistant... (https://www.thedailybeast.com/congress-to-grill-trumps-data-guru-and-assistant)
'MORNING JOE': Going to Jail for Rest of Lives... (https://news.grabien.com/story-morning-joe-trump-team-going-jail-rest-their-lives)
PENCE STAYS CLEAR... (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/04/pence-russia-probe-flynn-mueller-278785)
MAG: Dem Obsession with Impeachment Dangerous... (https://newrepublic.com/article/146098/democrats-dangerous-obsession-impeachment)


WHITE HOUSE: NO BANK RECORDS SUBPOENAED (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/363383-white-house-mueller-has-not-subpoenaed-trumps-bank-records)

http://www.drudgereport.com/i/logo9.gif




Related


“Morning Joe” co-hosts claim that the White House (Kushner) attempted to blackmail the morning show
https://www.thewrap.com/jared-kushner-told-morning-joe-to-apologize-to-trump-report/

[Swordsmyth]

ABC says Ross will no longer cover stories involving Trump

https://www.yahoo.com/news/abc-says-ross-no-longer-153542390.html





https://static.infowars.com/politicalsidebarimage/abc-fakenews.jpg

[AZJoe]

If only Flynn had deleted government work emails on a private server and lied to the FBI about that, while destroying physical evidence on blackberries and IPADs by having staff destroy them with hammers, or lied to the FBI about a private email server like Cheryl Mills and Huma Abedin did, - then of course FBI and Mueller wouldn't bat an eye.

[r3volution 3.0]

The problem with Daffy Duck, if you recall, is how, with his very limited mental means and compromised moral imagination, he is always trying to cover up his natural cowardice with vainglorious misadventures. Here he is posing as a fast-drawing gunslinger pulling his guns to threaten some big men playing poker in a saloon - unaware he has actually pulled down his own pants and exposed his colourful underwear.

Ha

...thinking about how less funny our current cartoon characters are relative Daffy.

[enhanced_deficit]

Watched MJ after a long time today. Mika and Joe may now get somewhat interesting material to keep on going for next 6 months or so, this could may even lead to outcome they would cheer in the end:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRAZpBHk4sY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRAZpBHk4sY


https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_960w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2017/12/05/National-Politics/Images/Botsford170201Trump11207.JPG&w=480


December 5, 2017
Former Trump aide nomination to be Singapore envoy stalled over Russia concerns (https://in.reuters.com/article/usa-trump-russia-mcfarland/former-trump-aide-nomination-to-be-singapore-envoy-stalled-over-russia-concerns-idINKBN1E009W)

Reuters Staff
2 Min Read

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The nomination to be ambassador to Singapore of K.T. McFarland, a former security adviser to President Donald Trump, has been delayed due to concerns about her testimony to Congress over communications with Russia, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee said on Tuesday.

“Her nomination is frozen for a while until that gets worked out,” Republican Senator Bob Corker told reporters at the U.S. Capitol.
Trump earlier this year nominated McFarland, a former deputy national security adviser, to be the U.S. envoy to Singapore.

[r3volution 3.0]

I wonder how this happened:


The Trump campaign worked behind the scenes last week [i.e. during the party convention summer 2016] to make sure the new Republican platform won’t call for giving weapons to Ukraine to fight Russian and rebel forces, contradicting the view of almost all Republican foreign policy leaders in Washington.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/trump-campaign-guts-gops-anti-russia-stance-on-ukraine/2016/07/18/98adb3b0-4cf3-11e6-a7d8-13d06b37f256_story.html?utm_term=.67b4b87d444a

Must be just because Trump's such a peace-loving (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTqoz0RYvVM) reality TV character..

..Yea

[Swordsmyth]

I wonder how this happened:



https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/trump-campaign-guts-gops-anti-russia-stance-on-ukraine/2016/07/18/98adb3b0-4cf3-11e6-a7d8-13d06b37f256_story.html?utm_term=.67b4b87d444a

Must be just because Trump's such a peace-loving (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTqoz0RYvVM) reality TV character..

..Yea

We already know that Trump wanted better relations with Russia, your speculative insinuations about why are worthless.
Call me when you have proof of a crime.

[r3volution 3.0]

We already know that Trump wanted better relations with Russia, your speculative insinuations about why are worthless.

Call me when you have proof of a crime.

Because you intend to defend him until/unless he's convicted of a crime?

[Swordsmyth]

Because you intend to defend him until/unless he's convicted of a crime?

Against spurious attacks with no basis that are designed to force us into bad relations with Russia? Yes

[r3volution 3.0]

Against spurious attacks with no basis that are designed to force us into bad relations with Russia? Yes

Another possibility is that none of this has any real relation to foreign policy.

And he's just a stupid low-grade criminal, trying to build hotels and so forth: i.e a typical politician.

[Swordsmyth]

Another possibility is that none of this has any real relation to foreign policy.

And he's just a stupid low-grade criminal, trying to build hotels and so forth: i.e a typical politician.

That might explain his actions but it doesn't explain the ridiculous Russophobia being pushed by the other side, somebody wants to affect foreign policy.

[timosman]

That might explain his actions but it doesn't explain the ridiculous Russophobia being pushed by the other side, somebody wants to affect foreign policy.

but imagine if this was true!

[Swordsmyth]

but imagine if this was true!

If I am going on vacation to an imagination I would prefer to spend it in a utopia not a dystopia.

[Swordsmyth]

but imagine if this was true!

https://static.infowars.com/politicalsidebarimage/abc-fakenews.jpg

[r3volution 3.0]

That might explain his actions but it doesn't explain the ridiculous Russophobia being pushed by the other side, somebody wants to affect foreign policy.

Or somebody is using foreign policy to achieve short term, relatively trivial, political objectives.

...and nothing in the foreign policy realm has changed, or will, Trump or no Trump.

[AZJoe]

Here is an interesting comment (https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/282605/)from former judge and prosecutor:


Did the prosecution tell Flynn’s lawyer that their main witness against him was removed for bias? Since Strzok led the interview and his testimony would be needed to establish untruthfulness, he is a critical witness not just a prosecutor. If not disclosed, would this not be a Giglio [Giglio v. United States, 405 U.S. 150 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Case_citation) ] violation? This is the kind of misconduct that can get a case dismissed and a lawyer disbarred. It is a Constitutional violation. This has bothered me since I heard about it.

[enhanced_deficit]

Can we put this discussion on hold for time being due to embassy move speech of yesterday.

[Swordsmyth]

Can we put this discussion on hold for time being due to embassy move speech of yesterday.

Why? I can walk and chew gum at the same time, can't you?

[enhanced_deficit]

Caution, MSM polls can be fakish/manipulated at times.

Poll: Two-thirds say Flynn guilty plea in Trump-Russia probe is a ‘serious matter’

By CRISTIANO LIMA
12/06/2017 07:57 PM EST

Two in three voters say Michael Flynn’s pleading guilty to lying to the FBI and his cooperation with the special counsel’s Russia investigation is “a serious matter” for the Trump administration, according to a CBS poll released Wednesday.
The findings (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-news-poll-americans-split-on-russia-investigation/) — the first since Flynn, President Donald Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty last Friday to giving misleading statements about his contacts with a Russian official during the 2016 campaign — show Americans still deeply divided over the gravity of the inquiry into ties between the Trump team and Russia.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/06/flynn-guilty-plea-trump-russia-poll-285215

[Firestarter]

][/COLOR]We already know that Trump wanted better relations with Russia, your speculative insinuations about why are worthless.
Call me when you have proof of a crime.
Because you intend to defend him until/unless he's convicted of a crime?

All of the Trump-fans will probably think it's nothing...

Donald Trump rang in the new year together with Joseph Cinque - a convicted felon with ties to the notorious Gambino crime family boss John Gotti: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-appears-mobster-affiliated-felon-new-year-bash-article-1.2932315

[Swordsmyth]

All of the Trump-fans will probably think it's nothing...

Donald Trump rang in the new year together with Joseph Cinque - a convicted felon with ties to the notorious Gambino crime family boss John Gotti: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-appears-mobster-affiliated-felon-new-year-bash-article-1.2932315

I have never said Trump was clean, I have only defended him against the spurious charges that the left has been pursuing.

[timosman]

Or somebody is using foreign policy to achieve short term, relatively trivial, political objectives.

...and nothing in the foreign policy realm has changed, or will, Trump or no Trump.

Dear Nostradamus, your predictions have not been entirely accurate in the past. Why are you wasting everybody's time with this garbage? What is missing from your life that you are trying so hard to compensate for here? Is there a problem with your nurse?:cool:

[enhanced_deficit]

With AL loss, Trump critics may get a boost in pursuit of 'Fakish Russiagate turned Real Israelgate' scandal.

[enhanced_deficit]

Michael Flynn asks judge to spare him from jail time

By Morgan Chalfant - 12/11/18 09:19 PM EST

Michael Flynn, President Trump's one-time national security adviser, has asked a federal judge to spare him from prison time and instead sentence him to at most one year probation, according to a new memo from his defense lawyers.
Flynn is also offering to do 200 hours of community service, according to the memo filed in federal court in D.C. late Tuesday. Flynn's request comes about one year after he pleaded guilty to one count of lying to FBI agents about his contacts with the Russian ambassador to the U.S. and agreed to cooperate with special counsel Robert Mueller's sprawling investigation into Russian interference and possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Moscow.

The filing comes a week after Mueller recommended (https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/419769-mueller-requests-no-prison-time-for-flynn-citing-his-substantial) Flynn serve no jail time for lying to FBI agents about his Russia contacts, citing his “substantial assistance” in the ongoing investigation into whether the Trump campaign coordinated with Moscow to interfere in the 2016 presidential election.
“As the Government has made clear, his cooperation was not grudging or delayed," Flynn's attorneys Robert Kelner and Stephen Anthony wrote in the sentencing memo. "Rather, it preceded his guilty plea or any threatened indictment and began shortly after he was first contacted for assistance by the Special Counsel’s Office.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/420930-michael-flynn-asks-judge-to-spare-him-jail-time

[Swordsmyth]

Michael Flynn asks judge to spare him from jail time

By Morgan Chalfant - 12/11/18 09:19 PM EST

Michael Flynn, President Trump's one-time national security adviser, has asked a federal judge to spare him from prison time and instead sentence him to at most one year probation, according to a new memo from his defense lawyers.
Flynn is also offering to do 200 hours of community service, according to the memo filed in federal court in D.C. late Tuesday. Flynn's request comes about one year after he pleaded guilty to one count of lying to FBI agents about his contacts with the Russian ambassador to the U.S. and agreed to cooperate with special counsel Robert Mueller's sprawling investigation into Russian interference and possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Moscow.

The filing comes a week after Mueller recommended (https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/419769-mueller-requests-no-prison-time-for-flynn-citing-his-substantial) Flynn serve no jail time for lying to FBI agents about his Russia contacts, citing his “substantial assistance” in the ongoing investigation into whether the Trump campaign coordinated with Moscow to interfere in the 2016 presidential election.
“As the Government has made clear, his cooperation was not grudging or delayed," Flynn's attorneys Robert Kelner and Stephen Anthony wrote in the sentencing memo. "Rather, it preceded his guilty plea or any threatened indictment and began shortly after he was first contacted for assistance by the Special Counsel’s Office.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/420930-michael-flynn-asks-judge-to-spare-him-jail-time
Sentencing for Gen. Mike Flynn is less than two weeks away but tempers have been brewing for a year by the Flynn family who has largely remained silent, waiting for sentencing.
Do not expect that silence to continue.
And on Friday, Joespeh Flynn took Washington Post ‘columnist’ and Deep-State robot David Ignatius to the woodshed.

Expect Joesph Flynn, brother of Mike Flynn, and the entire Flynn clan to become much more vocal in the coming months.
That includes Mike Flynn.
And expect this to get messy.


David Ignatius, another smug elitist leftie journo from WAPO has the audacity to condescendingly opine on @GenFlynn (https://twitter.com/GenFlynn?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) as if he knows him personally. Guess what, @IgnatiusPost (https://twitter.com/IgnatiusPost?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw).he doesn't know you and could give two $#@!s about your opinion. What we do know is that you are
— Joseph J. Flynn ⭐️⭐️⭐️ (@JosephJFlynn1) December 7, 2018 (https://twitter.com/JosephJFlynn1/status/1071040322828791808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

an accomplice to a crime, that of unmasking and leaking the private comms of a US citizen. There is ample evidence that you were willfully involved in this crime along with your friends in the Obama Admin ( RIce, Brennan, Clapper and others). Call it journalism,? We call
— Joseph J. Flynn ⭐️⭐️⭐️ (@JosephJFlynn1) December 7, 2018 (https://twitter.com/JosephJFlynn1/status/1071040323499880449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

it sedition against a duly elected President and his incoming National Security Advisor. Never know when YOU may be called to testify under oath about who leaked this information.. don't underestimate the Shanty Irish, we have long memories….@BarbaraRedgate (https://twitter.com/BarbaraRedgate?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) @realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
— Joseph J. Flynn ⭐️⭐️⭐️ (@JosephJFlynn1) December 7, 2018 (https://twitter.com/JosephJFlynn1/status/1071040324447875073?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)




https://truepundit.com/flynn-drops-t...against-trump/ (https://truepundit.com/flynn-drops-the-hammer-on-washington-post-reporter-you-are-an-accomplice-to-a-crime-against-trump/)




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Dec 4 2018 23:42:55 (EST) (https://qntmpkts.keybase.pub/#t1543984975) NEW
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https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/1070140182907756544 (https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/1070140182907756544)
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https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/1070138096916799488
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"NBC News: There appears, although the redacted documents do not make it completely clear, that there is a [[[+++separate criminal investigation going on outside of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's purview+++]]] for which Flynn has been providing significant assistance."
Markers are important.
[Dec 4, 2017] > [Dec 4, 2018]
Think No Name.
Did Mueller have a choice in making the recommendation?
Who does Mueller 'now' report to?
Does WHITAKER also oversee HUBER + OIG?
What case(s) is HUBER + OIG + team of 470 currently working on?
Who has the server(s)?
Who has access to NSA UT Term1-12?
Does FISA grant access to NSA umbrella collection?
You are witnessing something [firsthand] that many cannot possibly comprehend or accept as reality [Sci-Fi or precision M_planning?]
Coincidences > > > reveal w/o violating NAT SEC
Coincidences > > > mathematically impossible to be 'FALSE'
Coincidences > > > bypass 'installed' restrictions to prevent future legal attachments
Comms understood? 5:5?
SENATE WAS THE TARGET.

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[enhanced_deficit]

Federal judge restricts travel of ex-Trump official Michael Flynn after lashing him at hearing (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/19/federal-judge-restricts-travel-of-ex-trump-official-michael-flynn.html)



Judge Emmet Sullivan issued travel restrictions on Michael Flynn, President Donald Trump's former national security advisor.
That came hours after the federal judge told Flynn "arguably you sold your country out" — and suggested the retired Army lieutenant general could face prison if a sentencing proceeded as scheduled on Tuesday afternoon.
The judge also ordered Flynn to surrender his passport, and to check with the court if he wants to travel more than 50 miles from Washington, D.C.


Dan Mangan | Kevin Breuninger
Published 4 Hours Ago