Nikki Haley to China: Cut off oil to N Korea, or we'll take the situation into our own hands

[Swordsmyth]

U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley (https://www.cnbc.com/nikki-haley/) on Wednesday appeared to threaten to disrupt Chinese crude oil shipments to North Korea following the hermit kingdom's test of an intercontinental ballistic missile (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/28/north-korea-fires-ballistic-missile-report.html) on Tuesday.
China's refusal to completely cut off energy exports to North Korea have been a sticking point as the United States leads the charge to rein in Pyongyang's nuclear weapons program.
Haley revealed during a speech at the United Nations headquarters in New York City that President Donald Trump (https://www.cnbc.com/donald-trump/) called Chinese President Xi Jinping (https://www.cnbc.com/xi-jinping/) on Wednesday morning to tell him the time has come for China to cut off crude oil supplies to North Korea.
"We now turn to President Xi to also take that stand. We believe he has an opportunity to do the right thing for the benefit of all countries. China must show leadership and follow through. China can do this on its own, or we can take the oil situation into our own hands," she said.


More at: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/29/nikki-haley-to-china-cut-off-oil-to-north-korea-or-else.html?__source=yahoo%7Cfinance%7Cheadline%7Che adline%7Cstory&par=yahoo&doc=104869579&yptr=yahoo

[Zippyjuan]

Nothing the US can do by themselves. Empty threats.

China won't totally cut off North Korea because they don't want Korea to collapse and send possible refugees their direction or create a chaotic situation on their own border.

North Korea is willing to let citizens starve as long as they can keep their military program going. In large part to deter threats such as the US has been making.

[nikcers]

Nothing the US can do by themselves. Empty threats.
Really zippy, nothing the US can do, even though we created North Korea? Chinas been cooking their economy with slave labor from NK for years, thats why they have been conducting drills military drills on the NK border- this has nothing to do with NK and everything to do with China.

[Swordsmyth]

North Korea’s claims that it now has an intercontinental ballistic missile that can reach any point in the United States is all a “bluff,” according to the deputy head of the Russian Senate’s Defense and Security Committee.

“Today the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea is in no condition to make such a rocket,” Senator Franz Klintsevich told the Interfax (http://www.interfax.ru/russia/589493) news agency. He rebuffed claims by the regime in Pyongyang that their latest launch test concluded with the success of the Hwasong-15 missile—a weapon it claims can strike mainland U.S. territory (http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/29/asia/north-korea-missile-test/index.html).
The regime still has not provided so much as photographic proof of the test and even if assertions about the range prove true, there remains a question about whether they can carry a nuclear warhead (http://www.newsweek.com/north-koreas-nuclear-threats-us-what-pyongyang-can-and-cant-do-yet-649874).

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-korea-bluffing-missile-range-104316021.html

[shakey1]

We need to face the facts here... NK ain't gonna give up their nukes, jus' like any other nuke nation... a de-escalative change in diplomatic strategy is in order... & that ain't gonna happen with Haley barking the neocon party line.

[Raginfridus]

Her war sales pitch is working. Basically Americans believe war with everybody is inevitable at this point, as long as our leaders say so, even though the previous 16 years were proof to the contrary of what they've all claimed was true. USG are the largest Doomsday cult in history, and I think most Americans have a hard on for murder (as long as they can remove themselves from it in their pleasure palaces).

[Zippyjuan]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/30/donald-trump-menacing-talk-north-korea-us-isolated


Donald Trump's menacing talk on North Korea is leaving the US isolated

Donald Trump’s latest threat to destroy North Korea’s regime by force produced an angry response from Russia on Thursday. Yet elsewhere, the menacing talk from Washington was mostly met with uncomfortable silence.

While there is no shortage of international concern about Kim Jong-un’s latest, “breakthrough” missile test on Wednesday, Trump’s bellicose talk of war is rendering the US increasingly isolated.

Sergei Lavrov, Russia’s foreign minister, appeared to voice doubts shared by other countries when he claimed on Thursday that Trump was deliberately pushing Pyongyang towards military confrontation. “It seems they have done everything on purpose to make Kim lose control and make another desperate move,” he said.

Lavrov rejected imposing additional sanctions demanded by Trump. Lavrov suggested previously unscheduled US military exercises in December were part of an undisclosed plan to trigger a conflict. “The Americans need to explain to us all what they are actually up to. If they seek a pretext to destroy North Korea, they should openly say so.”

Reacting to Wednesday’s test, Trump’s ambassador to the UN, Nikki Haley, upped the ante again, pinning blame wholly on Kim’s shoulders. “If war does come, it will be because of continued acts of aggression like we witnessed yesterday … If war comes, make no mistake, the North Korean regime will be utterly destroyed,” she said.

It’s a view rejected by China which, like Russia, has repeatedly urged Trump to halt the military buildup and start talking. The official China Daily said opportunities created by Beijing to launch a dialogue had been “casually wasted” by the US. By re-designating North Korea as a sponsor of state terrorism, Trump had reignited a crisis that had abated since September, the paper said.

Trump’s uncanny ability to lose friends and alienate people makes it unlikely Xi Jinping, China’s president, will heed his latest appeal, made in a personal telephone call, for a full oil embargo on North Korea.

Trump continues to taunt Kim. Speaking in Missouri this week, he added the insult “sick puppy” to his previous, mocking description of Kim as “little rocket man”. This kind of playground name-calling and casual presidential rudeness is becoming familiar to allies as well as foes, as Theresa May discovered this week.

Whatever his military advisers may be telling Trump about the feasibility of “taking out” Kim’s regime, there seems scant understanding in Trump’s White House of the human, political and diplomatic consequences of forcible regime change. The US relationship with Xi’s China would be wrecked by any unilateral, potentially illegal military action in Beijing’s backyard. It could dash Trump’s hopes for more balanced economic ties. It might also induce China to increase defence spending and redouble its efforts to supplant the US as the Asia-Pacific’s leading military power.

Russia would take full advantage of such a rift, which could extend to the US-Europe and Nato relationships. It cannot be assumed the western alliance, frequently denigrated by Trump, would support the US in such a scenario. On past form, France and Germany would be reluctant to back what most of the world would certainly view as US aggression against a weaker adversary. The split over Iraq in 2003 might be magnified many times over.

An outbreak of hostilities undoubtedly risks large-scale loss of life. Even if North Korea failed to retaliate effectively – a big if – public and political outrage in South Korea and Japan would seriously damage America’s regional interests. Japan’s hawkish prime minister, Shinzo Abe, a Trump golf buddy, would be likely to face a fierce backlash. There would be renewed pressure to close US bases in both countries.

Meanwhile, the negative effect on the global economy, stock markets, oil prices and business can only be guessed at. Trump’s obliviousness to the possible consequences of his actions is the main reason why international support for Washington’s increasingly menacing stance seems to be weakening, even as the North Korean conundrum intensifies. By threatening Armageddon, Trump may ensure Kim wins.

[oyarde]

Way I see it is china and north korea will do whatever they want without any regard to what Nicki , the UN or anyone else thinks about it .

[Swordsmyth]

Russian Military Deploys Marines on North Korea Border
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-military-deploys-marines-north-112001189.html

[Swordsmyth]

North Korea's latest intercontinental ballistic missile did not survive re-entry into the Earth's atmosphere after it was tested this week, a U.S. official told Fox News Saturday.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/12/02/north-korean-missile-broke-up-on-re-entry-us-official-says.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%253A+foxnews%252Fworld+(Internal +-+World+Latest+-+Text)

[Anti Globalist]

How the hell does she even still have her job? It makes me sick whenever Trump says she's doing a good job.

[goldenequity]

She 'still' has her job cuz WH is on the same page.


Time running out to avert North Korea war, White House warns
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/03/time-running-avert-north-korea-war-white-house-warns/?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter


In "Largest-Ever" Military Drill, US Orders 16,000 Troops, 230 Jets To Simulate War With North Korea

Reuters
Pentagon should move U.S. dependents out of South Korea due to North Korean threat: Sen. Lindsey Graham


Republican U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham on Sunday urged the Pentagon to start moving U.S. military dependents, such as spouses and children, out of South Korea, saying conflict with North Korea is getting close.



Tokyo and Seoul will be first to fall victim if there is war on Korean Peninsula – Lavrov
https://www.rt.com/news/411765-lavrov-korea-japan-us/

Lavrov reiterated that in September,
the US made it clear that the next military exercises with South Korea were not to come until spring.
Russia appreciated that and made efforts to work with Pyongyang to turn the lull into more lasting stability.

“There was a hint that in this situation, that this natural pause in the US-South Korean exercises
could have been used by Pyongyang to avoid disturbing peace, as well, and conditions could be created for starting a dialogue,”

Instead, the US suddenly announced it would be holding
drills in October,
then November,
now in December.

That, according to Lavrov, was probably what provoked Pyongyang.

“There’s a feeling that [the US was] intentionally provoking [North Korea’s] Kim Jong-un to break that pause, to fall for their provocation,” he said.

[goldenequity]

NORTH KOREA SAYS ONLY U.S. SHOULD BE AFRAID OF ITS NUCLEAR WEAPONS, OTHER NATIONS ARE SAFE
http://www.newsweek.com/north-korea-says-only-us-should-be-afraid-its-nuclear-weapons-other-nations-722698

Strategic Sentinel-Conta verificada
@StratSentinel
The pentagon is considering deploying THAAD to the west coast amid #DPRK ICBM test

[Raginfridus]

Afraid of non-existent nukes?

Its working.

[AZJoe]

Washington Fears Peace. Deliberately Sabotages the Truce with Unexpected Unplanned Largest Ever Korean War-game Practice Invasion of North Korea Drill (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/12/no_author/heaven-forbid-peace-should-break-out-between-the-us-and-north-korea/)

As long as the US Empire can be funded and maintained on the backs of its taxpaying public, the chance of de-escalation of tensions not only on the Korean peninsula, but throughout the world are practically nil. And, as long as the nation’s current interventionist ideology holds sway, it will only be through a financial meltdown that the US’s role as global policeman will come to a much-needed end.

The most recent example of the world’s biggest bully escalating matters is its on-again, off-again badgering of North Korea. In contrast to Western/CIA media reports, the November 28 launch of what appears to be an intercontinental ballistic missile, the Hwasong-15, was not unprovoked. Instead, the North Korean test firing was in response to the unexpected announcement of further US/South Korean military drills to take place starting on December 4. …

Before the latest launch, the Kim Jong Un regime had not fired a missile for two months and was in discussions with other intermediaries about how tensions could be lessened on the Korean peninsula. For the bellicose US, however, not even an uneasy “truce” can be tolerated. … while negotiations were taking place, the US abruptly, and to the outrage of everyone involved, renewed exercises.

Russian Foreign Minister, Sergei Lavrov, explains:
We have been working with Pyongyang. Then, all of a sudden two weeks after the United States
had sent us the signal [about readiness to dialogue], they announced unscheduled drills in December.
There is an impression that they were deliberately provoking [North Korean leader] Kim Jong Un to
make him break the pause and gave in to their provocations.*

This, of course, is not the first time that the US has acted with duplicity in foreign matters. …
North Korea, too, has witnessed the wanton destructive capabilities of the American military during the so called “police action” of the early 1950s: The US Air Force estimated that North Korea’s destruction was proportionally greater than that of Japan’s in the Second World War. . . . some 3 million people, perished due mostly to American bombing while the destruction of property was equally brutal. … Is it any wonder that the North Korean leadership gets a little antsy when the US scramble its jets. It does not want a repetition of the holocaust inflicted on it ….

Of course, these inconvenient facts are rarely if ever spoken about in the Western media, academia, and certainly not by war-mongering politicos like U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley. They are simply ignorant of history or pretend not to know.

The US Empire only accepts peace if it favors its interests. For the Korean Peninsula that means that Kim Jong Un must disband his nuclear program. Such a move, however, would mean a premature death to Un and the eventual carpet bombing of his country. …

[goldenequity]

:D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaZROaCUlRI

[goldenequity]

moved (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?517476-Blockade-Rex-Tillerson-calls-for-maritime-control-of-North-Korea&p=6559852&viewfull=1#post6559852)