View Full Version : U.S. Coast Guard operating secret floating prisons in Pacific Ocean
Swordsmyth
11-28-2017, 04:35 PM
Now, it turns out, there's a secret U.S. detention system in the War on Drugs, too and this one is aboard U.S. Coast Guard cutters sailing in the Pacific Ocean.
In an effort to staunch the flow of cocaine and other hard drugs from South America to Central America and points north, Coast Guard cutters have been deployed farther and farther from the shore in the Pacific Ocean. When these cutters capture a boat carrying drugs, the smugglers are brought onto the ships and kept shackled to the deck, sometimes outside in the elements, until the Coast Guard makes arrangements for them to be transported back to the U.S. for trial.
But this isn't a wait of just a few hours or days. Often, these waits can last weeks or months, according to new reporting from The New York Times. Coast Guard officials say they can do this because the drug smugglers aren't under arrest until they reach U.S. shores, but some of the worst cases are drawing criticism even from Coast Guard officials.
More at: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/11/28/u-s-coast-guard-operating-secret-floating-prisons-pacific-ocean/900462001/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatoday-newstopstories
oyarde
11-28-2017, 05:28 PM
At an avg of about three weeks , there is no legitimate reason for this . None .
phill4paul
11-28-2017, 05:36 PM
I didn't know our "coast" extended thousands of miles out to sea. Well, ya'll keep paying for it and it'll keep happening. For myself I'll just contentiously keep objecting.
tod evans
11-28-2017, 05:42 PM
I didn't know our "coast" extended thousands of miles out to sea. Well, ya'll keep paying for it and it'll keep happening. For myself I'll just contentiously keep objecting.
Didn't you read the part about "hard" drugs?
Why do you hate the children?
phill4paul
11-28-2017, 05:44 PM
Didn't you read the part about "hard" drugs?
Why do you hate the children?
Because they are not mine and have been brought up to be rude, self-entitled, little shits. ;)
spudea
11-28-2017, 06:36 PM
They shouldn't be taken into custody at all, why waist time and money on a trial. Confiscate their shit, dump it in the ocean. Send them on their way back to their drug lords who will probably kill them for losing their payload. Win Win
asurfaholic
11-28-2017, 06:42 PM
and have been brought up to be rude, self-entitled, little $#@!s. ;)
Wouldn't you be, too, if you were taught from a young age to trust government but question your own biological sex? :confused:
Raginfridus
11-28-2017, 06:57 PM
These prison ships change everything. Its all different now.
timosman
11-28-2017, 07:18 PM
Why wasn't this investigated during Obama?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/20/magazine/the-coast-guards-floating-guantanamos.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxW2bCpQH7Y
oyarde
11-28-2017, 08:55 PM
They shouldn't be taken into custody at all, why waist time and money on a trial. Confiscate their shit, dump it in the ocean. Send them on their way back to their drug lords who will probably kill them for losing their payload. Win Win
I would fire the senior officers in charge of this BS if they worked for me , for bringing these people back into the US and for shackling people to the deck for weeks . These pussies are not fit to manage anything . If one of them was wounded or ill I bet they would be off that cutter same day .
phill4paul
11-28-2017, 09:25 PM
They shouldn't be taken into custody at all, why waist time and money on a trial. Confiscate their shit, dump it in the ocean. Send them on their way back to their drug lords who will probably kill them for losing their payload. Win Win
Confiscate shit outside of territorial waters? Pretty sure that is piracy. But, hell, asset forfeiture is "lawful." Lol.
devil21
11-28-2017, 09:45 PM
At an avg of about three weeks , there is no legitimate reason for this . None .
That's how long it takes to determine if the shipment is "one of ours" or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTK8torOylM
kpitcher
11-29-2017, 02:23 AM
I saw that Stallone movie. I honestly believed it was stretching to be different from every other prison break movie. I had no idea it's based on reality.
Should I take the prison space station movie seriously now?
unknown
11-29-2017, 02:24 AM
Torture is fine because drugs.
timosman
11-29-2017, 10:59 AM
Confiscate shit outside of territorial waters? Pretty sure that is piracy. But, hell, asset forfeiture is "lawful." Lol.
It sure is. We are the guardians of the galaxy or at least the planet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i2oUp5fAQw
bunklocoempire
11-29-2017, 12:08 PM
Torture is fine because drugs.
Drugs and what might happen is dangerous, proven track record of man concentrating and abusing power is not so dangerous. Brilliant.:rolleyes:
Raginfridus
11-29-2017, 12:59 PM
Should I take the prison space station movie seriously now?
In space, no one can hear you scream...
shakey1
11-29-2017, 02:42 PM
In space, no one can hear you scream...
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/620/107/3e2.jpg
AZJoe
12-04-2017, 08:18 PM
"When these cutters capture a boat carrying drugs, the smugglers are brought onto the ships and kept shackled to the deck, sometimes outside in the elements, until the Coast Guard makes arrangements for them to be transported back to the U.S. for trial. But this isn't a wait of just a few hours or days. Often, these waits can last weeks or months,
Coast Guard officials say they can do this because the drug smugglers aren't under arrest until they reach U.S. shores
These Coast Guard ships are deployed deep into the Pacific sometimes thousands of miles from the nearest U.S. port
For the next 70 days, Mr. Arcentales and the other man he was detained with were held always chained by their ankle to the deck of a ship or to a cable running along one of these large Coast Guard or Navy ships for 70 days. He was moved from ship to ship
How can the Coast Guard get away with keeping people under those conditions when the men haven't even been charged? The Coast Guard makes the argument that these people are not formally under arrest until they get to the United States. They're simply being held,
the idea that we need to push our borders outward farther and farther away from our actual borders
but we're arresting people in international waters, often on foreign boats, thousands of miles from the United States.
The question about the legality of the U.S. Coast Guard's detention practices has not been raised, in an international context, in criminal courts.
I have evidence of people being held for upwards of 70 days. A Coast Guard official told me people have been held for 90 days.
Occam's Banana
12-04-2017, 08:47 PM
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