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Lamp
11-27-2017, 03:24 PM
http://allnewstoday.co.uk/if-clinton-had-won-wed-be-at-war-susan-sarandon

Actress and activist Susan Sarandon believes that had Hillary Clinton won the election, “we would be at war.”“I did think she was very dangerous,” Sarandon said in an interview with The Guardian, as she continues to attract criticism from Clinton loyalists over her support for Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders and her subsequent vote for Green Party candidate Jill Stein during the 2016 election.
“I got from Hillary people, ‘I hope your crotch is grabbed’, ‘I hope you’re raped.’ Misogynistic attacks," she said.



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Asked if Clinton was more dangerous than Trump, Sarandon explained (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/nov/26/susan-sarandon-i-thought-hillary-was-very-dangerous-if-shed-won-wed-be-at-war), “I did think she was very, very dangerous. We would still be fracking, we would be at war [if she was president]. It wouldn’t be much smoother. Look what happened under [Barack] Obama that we didn’t notice.”
Clinton has a long record of supporting US interventions. Her vote for (https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2002-10-10/html/CREC-2002-10-10-pt1-PgS10233-7.htm) the Iraq war, the zeal with which she pushed (https://www.rt.com/usa/334400-hillary-clinton-libya-role/) to take down Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, down to her giddy celebration (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlz3-OzcExI) at his death, are just some of the reasons pacifists chose not to vote for her.
While Trump has failed to end US interventionism since coming to power, Clinton had advocated for a no-fly-zone over Syria, which would have likely led to war between the US, and Syria and Russia. Clinton admitted (https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/54520) a no-fly-zone would “kill a lot of Syrians,” in a 2013 speech leaked by WikiLeaks before the election. She also maintains a hawkish stance on Iran, and promised (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-politics-iran/clinton-says-u-s-could-totally-obliterate-iran-idUSN2224332720080422) in 2008, “If I’m president, we will attack Iran. In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them.”
Sarandon voted for Stein in New York, which, she explains “was probably the easiest place to vote for Stein,” as Trump was not going to win that state. “Bringing attention to working-class issues is not a luxury,” she said of her decision. “People are really hurting; that’s how this guy got in.”
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“It wasn’t a protest vote,” she added. “Following Bernie wasn’t a protest.”
Aside from a pro-war stance, the former secretary of state’s apparent inability to understand the anger felt by Americans still living with the effects of the global financial crisis, and her centrist policies meant she was not a viable candidate for Sarandon and others – even with the threat of a Trump presidency. Sarandon highlighted Clinton’s refusal to back a $15 minimum wage as being the stance of a non-feminist.
Sarandon thinks the blame levied at her over Clinton’s loss is part of the reason Democrats will lose again. “Well, that’s why we’re going to lose again if we depend on the DNC [the Democratic National Committee],” she said. “Because the amount of denial ... I mean it’s very flattering to think that I, on my own, cost the election. That my little voice was the deciding factor.”


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“It’s upsetting to me more from the point of view of thinking they haven’t learned,” she added.
Sarandon also pointed to the fact that, “you can’t judge by the mainstream media what’s going on in the country,” a quote which The Guardian placed inside parentheses and described as “the space where the extreme right meets the left.”
“How did we lose all our journalists and media?” she asked.

Raginfridus
11-27-2017, 03:34 PM
Well, America's been at war for 200 years, I guess she thinks Sanders and Greenstein would really change that? We've got 2000-5000 (more?) soldiers in Syria already, I guess we would have more war is what Susan means, than the more we've got we thought was less, like what Obama told us their numbers were. I'm glad she's keeping one eye open though, that's really swell of her.

Swordsmyth
11-27-2017, 03:42 PM
Well, America's been at war for 200 years, I guess she thinks Sanders and Greenstein would really change that? We've got 2000-5000 (more?) soldiers in Syria already, I guess we would have more war is what Susan means, than the more we've got we thought was less, like what Obama told us their numbers were. I'm glad she's keeping one eye open though, that's really swell of her.

I think she means a world class war with Russia.

Zippyjuan
11-27-2017, 04:00 PM
Good thing Trump won. He will avoid wars.

Donald Trump administration orders 70 airstrikes on Yemen in a month
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-yemen-airstrikes-monthly-double-2016-obama-a7666676.html

Trump Drops the Mother of All Bombs on Afghanistan
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/trump-drops-the-mother-of-all-bombs-on-afghanistan

Pentagon likely to announce US has 2,000 troops in Syria, not 500 – officials
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/24/pentagon-us-2000-troops-syria-not-500

Trump warns North Korea of 'fire and fury'
http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-trump-warns-north-korea-of-fire-and-1502220642-htmlstory.html

Trump attacks ‘fanatical’ Iran and puts nuclear deal in doubt
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/middle-east/trump-attacks-fanatical-iran-and-puts-nuclear-deal-in-doubt-1.3254991

Trump: U.S. will not 'rule out military option' in Venezuela
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/08/11/trump-u-s-not-rule-out-military-option-venezuela/561244001/

In Libya Strike, Military Shows New Lethal Powers Under Trump
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-09-29/in-libya-strike-military-shows-new-lethal-powers-under-trump

Trump to expand US military intervention in Afghan
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/21/donald-trump-expand-us-military-intervention-afghanistan-pakistan

Trump Administration Wants to Increase CIA Drone Strikes
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/trump-admin-wants-increase-cia-drone-strikes-n802311

Ukraine Expects Trump to Approve Arms Deliveries
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/10/26/ukraine-expects-trump-to-approve-arms-deliveries/

Raginfridus
11-27-2017, 04:01 PM
I think she means a world class war with Russia.I doubt the Cold War itself would become a hot one, she'd just make more plausibly deniable proxy wars. There wouldn't be a Russiagate like this one though, and she'd stand as cozy with the (((Russian))) Mob as Trump's people do.

(I don't follow the belief the Cold War ended in 91 because a stupid wall came down.)

Swordsmyth
11-27-2017, 04:07 PM
I doubt the Cold War itself would become a hot one, she'd just make more plausibly deniable proxy wars. There wouldn't be a Russiagate like this one though, and she'd stand as cozy with the (((Russian))) Mob as Trump's people do.

(I don't follow the belief the Cold War ended in 91 because a stupid wall came down.)

I agree.

Pauls' Revere
11-27-2017, 04:12 PM
Were already at war. We are in perpetual war. Regardless of who got elected.

Raginfridus
11-27-2017, 04:27 PM
America's been at war 222/239 years. Its impossible to be elected Prez if the candidate's a proven non-interventionist, and with wars conducted as they have been Congress isn't even necessary, so a Prez can declare mission accomplished whenever they feel, or deny a war ever took place when things go bad, like when an Assad defeats our best efforts at a putsch and our allies no longer take us seriously.

Lamp
11-27-2017, 05:03 PM
Good thing Trump won. He will avoid wars.

Donald Trump administration orders 70 airstrikes on Yemen in a month
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-yemen-airstrikes-monthly-double-2016-obama-a7666676.html

Trump Drops the Mother of All Bombs on Afghanistan
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/trump-drops-the-mother-of-all-bombs-on-afghanistan

Pentagon likely to announce US has 2,000 troops in Syria, not 500 – officials
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/24/pentagon-us-2000-troops-syria-not-500

Trump warns North Korea of 'fire and fury'
http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-trump-warns-north-korea-of-fire-and-1502220642-htmlstory.html

Trump attacks ‘fanatical’ Iran and puts nuclear deal in doubt
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/middle-east/trump-attacks-fanatical-iran-and-puts-nuclear-deal-in-doubt-1.3254991

Trump: U.S. will not 'rule out military option' in Venezuela
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/08/11/trump-u-s-not-rule-out-military-option-venezuela/561244001/

In Libya Strike, Military Shows New Lethal Powers Under Trump
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-09-29/in-libya-strike-military-shows-new-lethal-powers-under-trump

Trump to expand US military intervention in Afghan
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/21/donald-trump-expand-us-military-intervention-afghanistan-pakistan

Trump Administration Wants to Increase CIA Drone Strikes
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/trump-admin-wants-increase-cia-drone-strikes-n802311

Ukraine Expects Trump to Approve Arms Deliveries
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/10/26/ukraine-expects-trump-to-approve-arms-deliveries/

It was never implied that he wouldn't war but that he'd do it slightly less often and not with Russia

nikcers
11-27-2017, 06:33 PM
It was never implied that he wouldn't war but that he'd do it slightly less often and not with Russia

Less often? like 2.5X more often then Obama = less? or is it just some marketing thing like they put on packages like 25% LESS*

Lamp
11-27-2017, 06:43 PM
So sorry sir I forget myself. My attempt to think strategically on foreign policy regarding Hillary's Iran speech versus Trumps betrayal on the subject of NATO and Wikileaks has been interpreted as some form of Trump worship syndrome of which I am not privy towards nor have been subject to in the past. I am undeserving of trying to formulate some sort opinion of my own and seek subsequently redemption.....desuuu.

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nikcers
11-27-2017, 06:49 PM
So sorry sir I forget myself. My attempt to think strategically on foreign policy regarding Hillary's Iran speech versus Trumps betrayal on the subject of NATO and Wikileaks has been interpreted as some form of Trump worship syndrome of which I am not privy towards nor have been subject to in the past. I am undeserving of trying to formulate some sort opinion of my own and seek subsequently redemption.....desuuu.
A lot of people voted for Obama because they thought he would war less then Mccain.

euphemia
11-27-2017, 06:54 PM
That's pretty astounding coming from Susan Sarandon. Not something I thought I'd ever hear.

AZJoe
11-27-2017, 07:19 PM
And the left exposes its tolerance once again, to Susan (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/nov/26/susan-sarandon-i-thought-hillary-was-very-dangerous-if-shed-won-wed-be-at-war):
"she had to change her phone number because people she identifies as Hillary trolls sent her threatening messages. “I got from Hillary people ‘I hope your crotch is grabbed’, ‘I hope you’re raped’. Misogynistic attacks.”


And so the Hitlaryites have a new excuse to blame. Who knew that Susan was responsible for Hitlary's loss - somehow she must have been behind Hillary's lifetime of corruption, clamor for war with Russia, perpetual lies, theft, pay to play, bribes, Clinton Foundation, Uranium One, long litany of conveniently dead, killed or suicided associates, rigging the primary, and on and on - all the things that caused Hillary to lose. However will they reconcile that with claiming Russia for Hillary happening to be the most corrupt candidate since, well since ever.

If only Susan had not supported Jill Stein. Who knew she had such influence. Must be why her candidagte Jill Stein did so well and won. :rolleyes:

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nikcers
11-27-2017, 08:56 PM
U.S. On Track To Drop Three Times More Bombs On Afghanistan This Year: Report


As of Oct. 31, the U.S. had dropped 3,554 bombs on the country, the report said. That stands in contrast to the 1,337 bombs from all of 2016 and the 947 bombs dropped on Afghanistan in the entirety of 2015.

KEEF
11-27-2017, 09:04 PM
The Libs are imploding, and I am getting pleasure watching and reading.

shakey1
11-28-2017, 06:47 AM
A Hitlery presidency would've seen increased foreign intervention all the same.

https://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/clinton-laughing-war.jpg

Madison320
11-28-2017, 12:29 PM
That's pretty astounding coming from Susan Sarandon. Not something I thought I'd ever hear.

Except I think she supported Bernie Sanders. Sanders would be WAY worse than Clinton. Not even close.

Raginfridus
11-28-2017, 12:51 PM
A Hitlery presidency would've seen increased foreign intervention all the same.

https://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/clinton-laughing-war.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmIRYvJQeHM

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Anti Federalist
11-28-2017, 05:02 PM
That's pretty astounding coming from Susan Sarandon. Not something I thought I'd ever hear.

Hillary was not communist enough for her.

If Stalin had run against Sanders, she would have voted Stalin.

Anti Federalist
11-28-2017, 05:05 PM
Except I think she supported Bernie Sanders. Sanders would be WAY worse than Clinton. Not even close.

I no longer think this.

It is much better to be the "out" party.

That keeps the rank and file riled up and agitated and causes gridlock, which is the best we can hope for.

There's going to be a ton of damage done after the blowout next fall.

Madison320
11-28-2017, 08:09 PM
I no longer think this.

It is much better to be the "out" party.

That keeps the rank and file riled up and agitated and causes gridlock, which is the best we can hope for.

There's going to be a ton of damage done after the blowout next fall.

I was making the assumption that if either was president, they'd be able to implement their agenda. In that case Sanders would be much worse, he's a hard core socialist. His policies would completely wreck the country. We'd have food shortages, that type of thing under Sanders.

If somehow Sanders being president caused more gridlock and less being "accomplished" then maybe you're right.

enhanced_deficit
11-28-2017, 09:27 PM
She's all right.

This may not apply to Susan but hopefully other media figures will start speaking out freely about Hillary/DGP wars puppetry after fall of major Hollywood Hillary/DGP supporters like Harvey Weinstein as they used to blacklist actors who spoke out against war lobbies hidden agenda.

timosman
11-28-2017, 09:30 PM
I no longer think this.

It is much better to be the "out" party.

That keeps the rank and file riled up and agitated and causes gridlock, which is the best we can hope for.

There's going to be a ton of damage done after the blowout next fall.

I think the left is going to be riled up and agitated for a while.