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Swordsmyth
11-24-2017, 06:04 PM
Though the details of the call are still unclear, Trump outlined what was to be generally discussed in a tweet, and said this morning, "Will be speaking to President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey this morning about bringing peace to the mess that I inherited in the Middle East. I will get it all done, but what a mistake, in lives and dollars (6 trillion), to be there in the first place!"

Will be speaking to President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey this morning about bringing peace to the mess that I inherited in the Middle East. I will get it all done, but what a mistake, in lives and dollars (6 trillion), to be there in the first place!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 24, 2017 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/934029886842458112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
Though not verified by the US side, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said Trump told Erdogan during Friday's call that the US will cease supplying weapons to the Syrian Kurdish fighters, according to the AP. Turkey has long considered Syrian Kurdish militant groups to be terrorists, and Erdogan reportedly insisted at the Sochi summit that Syrian Kurds be excluded from all negotiations over the future of Syria on the grounds that they have links to the PKK.

More at: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-24/trump-reportedly-tells-erdogan-us-will-cease-arming-syrian-kurds

enhanced_deficit
11-26-2017, 10:37 PM
Is this really a good move? This could impact US arms exports and many jobs in arms manufacturing industries.

goldenequity
11-27-2017, 07:33 AM
Is this really a good move? This could impact US arms exports and many jobs in arms manufacturing industries.
not to worry.

Thomas Oz- ThomasOz
Around 100 trucks loaded with Humvees entered Rojava today

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(YPG Kurds are 're-branding' themselves/joining SDF mercenaries :p )

Kurdish forces to join ‘new’ Syrian Army after establishment of federalist system (https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/kurdish-forces-join-new-syrian-army-establishment-federalist-system/)

goldenequity
11-27-2017, 07:55 PM
Now It gets even better... a 'truce' with ISIS???





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Swordsmyth
11-27-2017, 10:17 PM
The Pentagon said on Monday it was reviewing "adjustments" in arms for the Syrian Kurdish forces that have angered Turkey, but it stopped short of halting weapons transfers, suggesting such decisions would be based on battlefield requirements.

"We are reviewing pending adjustments to the military support provided to our Kurdish partners in as much as the military requirements of our defeat-ISIS and stabilization efforts will allow to prevent ISIS from returning," said Pentagon spokesman Eric Pahon, referring to Islamic State, which U.S. and U.S.-backed forces are battling in Syria.
Earlier on Monday Turkish Deputy Prime Minister Bekir Bozdag said Friday's call between Trump and Erdogan was a turning point in strained ties between the two countries, but Washington must honor a pledge to stop providing weapons to the Syrian Kurds.
"The 'We will not give weapons' remark from a U.S. president for the first time is important, but it will lose value if it is not implemented. It would be deceiving the world," Bozdag said.

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/turkey-says-trump-must-keep-pledge-not-arming-073612529.html

goldenequity
11-28-2017, 02:59 AM
(just trying a new extension/add-on in Pale Moon browser... a multi-link capture tool.
Here I tried it on AntiWar.com front page for fun. works pretty well.)

1000s More US Troops in Iraq/Syria Than Admitted
http://news.antiwar.com/2017/11/27/thousands-more-us-troops-in-iraq-syria-than-previously-admitted/

Pentagon Expected To Cut Arms Shipments to Syrian Kurds
http://news.antiwar.com/2017/11/27/pentagon-expected-to-adjust-arms-shipments-to-syrian-kurds/

Russia Calls for Two Day Ceasefire in Damascus Suburb
http://news.antiwar.com/2017/11/27/russia-calls-for-two-day-ceasefire-in-damascus-suburb/

Russia Denies Killing Civilians in West Syria Airstrikes
http://news.antiwar.com/2017/11/27/russia-denies-killing-civilians-in-west-syria-airstrikes/

Israel Govt Protects PM From Corruption Charges
http://news.antiwar.com/2017/11/27/israeli-govt-aims-to-protect-pm-from-corruption-charges/

Clause Grants Israeli Citizenship to Tens of Thousands of Palestinians
https://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page/.premium-1.825094

How EU Encourages Israel to Destroy Palestinian Homes
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-eu-encourages-israel-destroy-palestinian-homes

Islamist Leader Calls for End to Pakistan Protest
http://news.antiwar.com/2017/11/27/islamist-leader-calls-for-end-to-pakistan-protest-after-law-minister-resigns/

Limited Aid Reaches Yemen, Blockade Still Taking a Toll
http://news.antiwar.com/2017/11/27/limited-aid-reaches-yemen-blockade-still-taking-a-toll/

In Upset, TV Star Leads US Ally in Honduras Vote
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-honduras-election/in-upset-tv-star-leads-u-s-ally-in-honduras-presidential-vote-idUSKBN1DQ05K

After Cheerleading for Invasion of Iraq, Tom Friedman Glorifies Saudi War Criminal
http://original.antiwar.com/sahimi/2017/11/27/cheerleading-invasion-iraq-tom-friedman-glorifies-saudi-arabias-war-criminal/

Is North Korea Really a 'State Sponsor of Terrorism'?
http://original.antiwar.com/paul/2017/11/27/north-korea-really-state-sponsor-terrorism/

Kushner Kept Tillerson in Dark on Saudi-Lebanon Move
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/kushner-kept-tillerson-in-the-dark-on-saudi-lebanon-move/

The Myth of the 'Clean War'
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2017/11/25/myth-clean-war

Russiagate Explained
http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/social-engineering/russiagate-explained/

Consequences of Unrestrained US Foreign Policy
https://thediplomat.com/2017/11/the-consequences-of-americas-unrestrained-foreign-policy/

goldenequity
11-28-2017, 10:40 AM
ISIS filmed retreating from SAA/Albukamal towards US-backed SDF lines


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_PdxvbK10o&feature=youtu.be


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Plain & simple:
the SDF and ISIS are now good for nothing else than to hurt SAA and allies.
Hegemons now just using ISIS as they were using it all along - as a proxy-force.
The only change is that they can't hide it so they now merge it
w/ their other proxy-force SDF. Beards are shaved.
The Kurds participate in the Pentagon/US charade to seize & hold Syrian oil assets.

In pure distillation it resolves to State/taxpayer sponsored terrorism...
what it always was and continues to be.

Lamp
11-28-2017, 10:44 AM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Syrian%2C_Iraqi%2C_and_Lebanese_insurgencies.png/1024px-Syrian%2C_Iraqi%2C_and_Lebanese_insurgencies.png

goldenequity
12-02-2017, 06:26 AM
Talal Silo’s interview with Anadolu Agency:
https://twitter.com/eha_news

Talal Silo, former spokesman of #SDF
reveals secrets behind organizaton's relationship with the United States of America and #PKK/PYD
after surrendering to Turkish Security Forces in #Syria|n opposition held Jarablus.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQCEIazV4AAk1JC.jpg:small

Question: Who rules the #SDF?

Talal: “ Actually it's the United States who rules the #SDF. Even though elections are held, they are nothing but a theatre. Everybody knows Sahin Cilo. He is the guy who leads everything. He is also one of the administrators of #PKK. “
Talal also says “ I was the guy ranked as number 3 in #SDF. In every point of life #PKK has checkpoints in #SDF. In court, civil council, health and many others. “

Question: Is the US investigates where its guns are going and how it is used in field?

Talal: “ From their point of view they didn't care about where they go. Not even for one time had they asked us where the guns were and how they were used. “

Question: The US claimed that it had given arms to Arabs not to YPG for a while. Was it true?

Tilo: Initially we were signing some papers for the weapons that we get. But later they were given to PKK leaders. There was an infighting between thoroughbred Kurds and Turkish Kurds.

Tilo: “ All of the ideas were throwning by McGurk. Only Kurds were able to get heavy weapons. Arabs, Turkmens, and Assyrians were only given light weapons. The name of Coalition was Arab but it had nothing to do with Arabs. Advanced weapons were given to PKK and YPG for sure “

Question: How many gunmen does YPG have under the name of SDF?

Tilo: “ At least has 50.000 militas. As a #Turkmen|s, under my leadership i had a 65 milita.During the #Raqqa operation the death rate of Arabs was %80 while #Kurd|s was only %20.
Arabs were deceived. “

goldenequity
12-02-2017, 05:28 PM
Talal Silo, ex-spoxman for the US-backed #YPG/#SDF [ PKK in #Syria ] gives an interview to Turkish Media after defected to #Turkey

Interview shows partnership between United States and PKK...Group currently in an armed struggle with U.S’s #NATO ally Turkey

Former #SDF [ US-backed ] spokesman, Talal Silo reveals that
U.S gave weapons to PKK which is a considered terrorist organization listed by both #Turkey and the US.

Silo says militants paid 170-200$ dollars by United States and #YPG leaders unwaged, they gaining money from smuggling


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goldenequity
12-03-2017, 07:33 PM
Nation Building...


Just there to fight ISIS?
Talal Silo says US intelligence chief promised SDF corridor to Mediterranean Sea

http://aa.com.tr/uploads/userFiles/23379d29-6dc2-4319-8ef6-b024443a9e80/talal-silo.jpg


there is a lot here..
Part 1: Former SDF spokesman tells of US arming terror groups
http://aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/former-sdf-spokesman-tells-of-us-arming-terror-groups/987658

Part II: Ex-SDF man tells of US support for terrorist PKK/PYD
http://aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/interview-ex-sdf-man-tells-of-us-support-for-pkk-pyd/988391