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enhanced_deficit
11-12-2017, 06:02 PM
The future King of our closest ally in the world in this letter asked if some US President would have the courage to take on 'Jewish lobby' in the US. The letter leaked now likely would have different significance in the US in the post 9/11 world. And they chose to publish this on Veteran's Day weekend in the US:


Prince Charles suggested 'influx of foreign Jews' was partly to blame for Middle East unrest and asked who will take on 'Jewish lobby' in America in letter to close friend


Published: 11 November 2017


He argues it was the exodus of European Jews in the middle of the last century that ‘helped to cause the great problems’.

He goes on to say terrorism in the region will only end when its causes are eliminated.

He then expresses the hope a US President will find the courage to stand up to the American ‘Jewish lobby’.
'Also I now begin to understand better their [Arabs’] point of view about Israel. Never realised they see it as a US colony.

'I now appreciate that Arabs and Jews were all a Semitic people originally and it is the influx of foreign, European Jews (especially from Poland, they say) which has helped to cause great problems. I know there are so many complex issues, but how can there ever be an end to terrorism unless the causes are eliminated?

‘Surely some US president has to have the courage to stand up and take on the Jewish lobby in US? I must be naive, I suppose!’

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/11/11/22/463F272300000578-5073607-image-a-16_1510439544128.jpg
Charles, pictured with President Ronald Reagan in 1985, was said to be critical of US Middle East policy


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/11/11/22/463F947900000578-5073607-image-a-18_1510440103236.jpg


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5073607/Letter-penned-Prince-Charles-sparks-controversy.html





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timosman
11-12-2017, 06:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wrPJNrNriA

euphemia
11-12-2017, 06:15 PM
Just pointing out Prince Charles is fascinated by Eastern religion and is a patron of Muslim charities.

enhanced_deficit
11-12-2017, 06:22 PM
Just pointing out Prince Charles is fascinated by Eastern religion and is a patron of Muslim charities.

That trend has accelerated too in the post Iraqi freedom wars & 9/11 era, current mayor of London was muslim and many believe last US President Obama was a Muslim. Syrian/Libyan msulim exodus is moving towards Europe.

US military and financial aid to Istael seems to be acclerating increase of muslim demographics & influences in the Europe and US.

But do you agree with the future British King's views in the letter or disagree?

Zippyjuan
11-12-2017, 06:26 PM
So the letter was written in 1986?

euphemia
11-12-2017, 06:32 PM
But do you agree with the future British King's views in the letter or disagree?

I think it is inappropriate for him to state an opinion at all. One lobbying group is not the problem. It's that there are lobbyists buying favors in Washington at all.

enhanced_deficit
11-12-2017, 06:43 PM
So the letter was written in 1986?

Yes, almost 14 years before Osama's letter and 9/11.



I think it is inappropriate for him to state an opinion at all. One lobbying group is not the problem. It's that there are lobbyists buying favors in Washington at all.

Yes Prince Charles did not say anything about Egyptian or Tbacoo lobbies that also wield influence on US politicians.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/05/a2/46/05a246d4b3faa1e31d973fbd286d06f8.jpg




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Raginfridus
11-12-2017, 06:44 PM
So the letter was written in 1986?Yes. Charles is no longer next in line, I think. Even though he's still a Prince or something.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/11/11/22/463F947900000578-5073607-image-a-18_1510440103236.jpg

Exactly. Millions of Israelis are only second or third generation colonists from Europe, and non-Talmudic Orthodox Jews don't even like the name of their homeland. Its essentially a blasphemy, sense their messiah hasn't appeared to them and taken them home in person.

Though in fairness to USG, the Brits dumped Israel on them. Which had been the Ottoman Empire's responsibility. That was when big trouble started again in Palestine, as some in the international Zionist congress pressed for a Palestinian homeland instead of an African one the majority had proposed, as the Young Turks won power.


I think it is inappropriate for him to state an opinion at all. One lobbying group is not the problem. It's that there are lobbyists buying favors in Washington at all.He's a monarch and this old opinion was only recently leaked. We don't know what he thinks now, though Israel is basically fighting a proxy war in his homeland. He can't be happy about that.

Its really not about having an opinion so much as a basic comprehension.

Zippyjuan
11-12-2017, 06:46 PM
There is speculation that Charles will never take the throne- and he seems to be resigned to that.

enhanced_deficit
11-12-2017, 06:49 PM
There is speculation that Charles will never take the throne- and he seems to be resigned to that.

After surfacing of this letter, even US Congress may oppose him becoming next King of UK.
Hopefully Prince Williams does not think Israeli lobby has oversized influence over US politicians /is major financier of US politicians etc.


Although it's possible still that Queen could make Prince Charles the King anytime going by these reports on Drudge right now:

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On a related note, Drudge and US MSM outlets are probably practicing responsible journalism by not reporting this news. Controversial wording in this letter could further disrupt national harmony in our society that is already seeing various upheavals in the disruptor-in-chief Trump era.

Raginfridus
11-12-2017, 07:01 PM
There is speculation that Charles will never take the throne- and he seems to be resigned to that.Yes, England's recent 2 Royal Houses, whatever they're called, have spawned more royals who'd wished they were just rich than rich figureheads. Definitely not the happy days of prior monarchs. lol

otherone
11-12-2017, 08:03 PM
Prince Charles suggested 'influx of foreign Jews' was partly to blame for Middle East unrest and asked who will take on 'Jewish lobby' in America in letter to close friend

yeah.
THAT'S the problem. Nothing to do with the Brit's parsing up of the Ottoman Empire and Corporate Colonialism. :rolleyes:

enhanced_deficit
11-12-2017, 08:10 PM
Not sure if it's due their proximity to Gaza/Poland/Russia compared to US or them not having groups like AIPAC, climate in UK on such issues seems quite different than that in the US. Prince Charles' view then may not be an isolated voice given other recent news:


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Straw, who served as foreign secretary in Tony Blair's government in 2001-2006, further claimed that Germany’s “obsession” with defending Israel was also a contributing factor to failure to achieve peace.
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https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4445810,00.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMGuYjt6CP8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMGuYjt6CP8







He's a monarch and this old opinion was only recently leaked. We don't know what he thinks now, though Israel is basically fighting a proxy war in his homeland. He can't be happy about that.

Its really not about having an opinion so much as a basic comprehension.


Yes this could be view from a different era/generation.
Even in the US, Christian-Zionism today appears to be different from Christian-Zionism of the Billy Graham-Nixon era as evidenced by recently leaked Graham-Nixon tapes about US "Jewish media control". Graham is no fringe figure among US evangelicals, he's widely seens as Pastor of the Presidents:

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/george-hw-bush-bill-clinton-billy-graham-franklin-graham-and-jimmy-picture-id112966901



http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2007/0708/360_hillary_graham_0806.jpg
Hillary Clinton praying with Billy Graham

http://www.jpost.com/International/N...-stance-323953

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NIXON: “Newsweek” is totally — it's all run by Jews and dominated by them in their editorial pages. The “New York Times, the “Washington Post”, totally Jewish too.

GRAHAM: And they're the ones putting out the pornographic stuff. But this stranglehold has got to be broken or this country is going to go down the drain.

NIXON: Do you believe that?

GRAHAM: Yes, sir.

NIXON: I can't ever say it, but I believe it.

GRAHAM: But if you get elected a second time, we might be able to do something.

(END AUDIO CLIP)


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Raginfridus
11-12-2017, 08:30 PM
Yea. The Ottomans were selling land left and right, as their government was failing under weight of maintaining a decadent Empire whilst containing 19th century rebellions. I'm not sure if the Brits expected Merlin to fly down and fix everything, or what they thought bloodying themselves for a decayed backwater was good for. (Was petrol discovered there yet?)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Balfour_declaration_unmarked.jpg

The ethnic aspect looms larger at this point, as Palestinians are barricaded into ghettos, even though the natives who stayed are reproducing more rapidly and the zones they're cordoned in won't be sustained many more years.

There are basically two options: withdraw all US aid and agency within Israel now (so terms for actual peace talks can commence between them w/o US propping up Israel), or keep pumping cash and weapons in until we have to invade Israel because the Palestinians overthrew a minority Israeli population. The second will happen, it's just a simple matter of breeding. The first is at least good for America, because we can't afford Israel anymore.

timosman
11-12-2017, 08:51 PM
The first is at least good for America, because we can't afford Israel anymore.

Oh , no. We'll make you pay, bitches, for our suffering. :cool:

Raginfridus
11-12-2017, 08:55 PM
Oh , no. We'll make you pay, bitches, for our suffering. :cool:Hark! Tis that Netanyahu who bespeeken?

timosman
11-12-2017, 08:57 PM
Hark! Tis that Netanyahu who bespeeken?

No, but I can put him on the line.:cool:

enhanced_deficit
11-13-2017, 12:23 PM
No, but I can put him on the line.:cool:

He might already be on the line :)


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