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Swordsmyth
11-07-2017, 09:54 PM
President Trump wasted not time apportioning any blame squarely on the shoulders of establishment Republican Ed Gillespie for his loss...
Ed Gillespie worked hard but did not embrace me or what I stand for. Don’t forget, Republicans won 4 out of 4 House seats, and with the economy doing record numbers, we will continue to win, even bigger than before!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 8, 2017 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/928074747316928513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
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Update (8:10pm EST): MSNBC has called Virginia's Gubernatorial Race for Democrat Ralph Northam
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2017/11/07/20171102_va_0.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2017/11/07/20171102_va.jpg)
For now the spread is narrower than the 5.4pt spread Hillary won over Trump...
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2017/11/07/20171102_va4.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2017/11/07/20171102_va4.jpg)


More at: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-07/trump-referendum-or-just-another-dem-disappointment-all-eyes-turn-virginias-governor

oyarde
11-07-2017, 10:09 PM
It is a Dem state what did people expect ?

oyarde
11-07-2017, 10:11 PM
Also , house seats are entirely different . The Pubs will have the house for years to come specifically because of obummercare .

Zippyjuan
11-08-2017, 11:43 AM
"Not my fault". Trump also did robocalls for Gillespie. The "four out of four" (which was actually four out of five) were in solid Republican districts. Those races were not in question.

https://rvamag.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Screen-Shot-2017-10-26-at-2.48.46-PM-300x119.png

https://i0.wp.com/cdn.bipartisanreport.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/gillespietweet.png?resize=1255%2C723

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOEv0qXVQAAS4Fa.jpg

http://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trump.jr_.tweet_.jpg

angelatc
11-08-2017, 11:48 AM
I'm not thrilled about it because I hate the left. But pragmatically the Democrats are at historically low levels. As much as I want them to die slow painful deaths starving in the streets with no free food and no free medical care, common sense says at some point they're going to regain at least some of the ground they've lost.

History says they're going to win back some House seats too. Especially since the GOP is too pathetic to repeal Obamacare.

FSP-Rebel
11-08-2017, 12:57 PM
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Influenza
11-08-2017, 01:03 PM
I'm not thrilled about it because I hate the left. But pragmatically the Democrats are at historically low levels. As much as I want them to die slow painful deaths starving in the streets with no free food and no free medical care, common sense says at some point they're going to regain at least some of the ground they've lost.

wat

dannno
11-08-2017, 01:06 PM
wat

Well they have essentially enslaved everybody, pretty sure if somebody said something about slave owners in the south starving in the streets nobody would care.

AuH20
11-08-2017, 01:11 PM
I'm not thrilled about it because I hate the left. But pragmatically the Democrats are at historically low levels. As much as I want them to die slow painful deaths starving in the streets with no free food and no free medical care, common sense says at some point they're going to regain at least some of the ground they've lost.

History says they're going to win back some House seats too. Especially since the GOP is too pathetic to repeal Obamacare.

The worst aspect of the left is that they have permanently allied with the plutocrats. Even Bannon was trying to talk sense to these morons, but they have no principles.

https://theintercept.com/2017/11/01/steve-bannon-aft-teachers-union-randi-weingarten/


Hearing Bannon attack elites, including the types of hedge fund Democrats who fund the charter school movement, in the same way she would, was surreal. “He hates crony capitalism,” Weingarten said. “The same kinds of things [we say], you could hear out of his mouth, and that’s why it’s so — you sit there in a surreal way, saying, ‘How can you sit right next to all these elites?’”

Influenza
11-08-2017, 01:18 PM
Well they have essentially enslaved everybody, pretty sure if somebody said something about slave owners in the south starving in the streets nobody would care.
I don't think any one party is guilty of this "enslavement" that you mention. Both parties have contributed greatly to the expansion of government, Rs almost as much as Ds
I just found it particularly ironic that someone who said "conspiracy theorists are detrimental to the liberty movement" also thinks that openly mentioning that she would enjoy seeing her political opponents starve to death en masse is totally fine.

EBounding
11-08-2017, 01:31 PM
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dannno
11-08-2017, 01:45 PM
I don't think any one party is guilty of this "enslavement" that you mention. Both parties have contributed greatly to the expansion of government, Rs almost as much as Ds

You are confusing Rs (politicians) with Rs (voters). Not that Rs (voters) are perfect, but the platform that Rs (voters) vote for is often much better than the actions that Rs (politicians) end up carrying out. Taxes are an obvious example where Republicans really screw up and are not in sync with their base, but even Bush Jr. ran on no nation building and a humble foreign policy.




I just found it particularly ironic that someone who said "conspiracy theorists are detrimental to the liberty movement" also thinks that openly mentioning that she would enjoy seeing her political opponents starve to death en masse is totally fine.

I https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/images/smilies/heart.gif Angie but sometimes she is a little cray cray.

Influenza
11-08-2017, 01:55 PM
You are confusing Rs (politicians) with Rs (voters). Not that Rs (voters) are perfect, but the platform that Rs (voters) vote for is often much better than the actions that Rs (politicians) end up carrying out. Taxes are an obvious example where Republicans really screw up and are not in sync with their base, but even Bush Jr. ran on no nation building and a humble foreign policy.

I was being generous with interpreting her comment as only referring to D politicians. If she actually meant the tens of millions of D voters, that's a whole new level of sociopathy that really shouldn't be tolerated on these forums.

oyarde
11-08-2017, 09:03 PM
I don't think any one party is guilty of this "enslavement" that you mention. Both parties have contributed greatly to the expansion of government, Rs almost as much as Ds
I just found it particularly ironic that someone who said "conspiracy theorists are detrimental to the liberty movement" also thinks that openly mentioning that she would enjoy seeing her political opponents starve to death en masse is totally fine.

Well , I am not feeding any democrats .

Jamesiv1
11-08-2017, 09:06 PM
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ha ha

i luv Ann Coulter

euphemia
11-08-2017, 09:11 PM
Gillespie just wasn't a very good candidate. Virginia Republicans are rather half-hearted, in general. After the truck ad, Democrats should have run away from the party, and they didn't. Why? Because the Virginia Republicans are just like Tennessee Republicans. They are establishment right down to the ground and they had already given up the governorship.

AuH20
11-09-2017, 07:09 PM
As I said before, vanilla Gillepsie didn't excite anyone.

https://www.vox.com/mischiefs-of-faction/2017/11/8/16625578/rural-whites-no-show-virginia


To analyze this, I looked at how well each candidate held on to their presidential votes from 2016. For example, in Alexandria, 13,285 people voted for Donald Trump last year, while 10,807 voted for Republican gubernatorial candidate Ed Gillespie this year. This drop-off isn’t surprising; it’s rare that a state election will produce the same turnout that a presidential one will. But it’s interesting to examine where Democrats and Republicans retained more of their presidential votes.

angelatc
11-09-2017, 09:01 PM
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Bannon spoke to the GOP in Michigan last night, and said he had been the only person on the cabinet that wanted us out of the foreign wars. So I wish he was in that picture.