View Full Version : John Bolton hints at military draft
cindy25
11-06-2017, 02:32 AM
Bolton was on Fox News over the weekend, I forget where, and hinted at a return of the draft so people would have sense of unity, and of course he used the usual Israeli excuse; even made sure to mention that men and women are drafted in Israel. Trial balloon? or just a nut case? he was considered of State sec.
combine that with mentions of a ground war to take over North Korea. and that estimates are almost always understated. and the possible additional war in Iran.
RonZeplin
11-06-2017, 02:56 AM
The unity opinion is that Bolton is a nutcase, IMO.
XNavyNuke
11-06-2017, 06:57 AM
Unity of who? Three quarters of those under the age of 25 are 4F.
XNN
Raginfridus
11-06-2017, 07:40 AM
Unity of who? Three quarters of those under the age of 25 are 4F.
XNNlol
Bolton may just be the dumbest piece of shit shill for Israel in the MSM. He never misses an opportunity to praise Israel.
kpitcher
11-06-2017, 08:09 AM
I heard a speech on the benefits of a one year military support draft.
https://sosamerica.org/
nikcers
11-06-2017, 08:17 AM
"A Military draft is logical, Moral, and even Libertarian"
shakey1
11-06-2017, 08:47 AM
... he's a fairly dangerous man.
CaptUSA
11-06-2017, 11:18 AM
"A Military draft is logical, Moral, and even Libertarian"
Gotta say, I love this! lol!
Unfortunately, You cannot give Reputation to the same post twice.
euphemia
11-06-2017, 11:28 AM
It works a little differently if you say that at age 18 all Americans must report for mandatory training to become part of the Constitutional militia. The last thing we needs is a whole generation of people who are afraid of guns and do not know how to use them.
Ender
11-06-2017, 11:40 AM
It works a little differently if you say that at age 18 all Americans must report for mandatory training to become part of the Constitutional militia. The last thing we needs is a whole generation of people who are afraid of guns and do not know how to use them.
The "Constitutional" militia were locals who were to protect their community, especially from bad government.
otherone
11-06-2017, 12:18 PM
Gotta say, I love this! lol!
Unfortunately, You cannot give Reputation to the same post twice.
covered. Had a tuna melt for lunch. It was pretty libertarian.
oyarde
11-06-2017, 12:29 PM
covered. Had a tuna melt for lunch. It was pretty libertarian.
I am having the libertarian crab salad with swiss cheese on french bread , the real shit , no imitation crab meat . Once I have my anarchy all these fatties will be in militia .
William Tell
11-06-2017, 12:44 PM
He's a disgusting piece of crap.
oyarde
11-06-2017, 12:45 PM
Unity of who? Three quarters of those under the age of 25 are 4F.
XNN
Yeah , they are pretty much already getting most of those that would be of any use to them .
euphemia
11-06-2017, 12:45 PM
The "Constitutional" militia were locals who were to protect their community, especially from bad government.
I'm aware of that. Just flipping the context and pointing out what will happen if we allow the anti-gun indoctrination to continue.
Wow, for someone who claims to be the most brilliant man on the forums, I'm a little surprised you missed that bit of irony.
specsaregood
11-06-2017, 12:46 PM
Bolton was on Fox News over the weekend, I forget where, and hinted at a return of the draft so people would have sense of unity, and of course he used the usual Israeli excuse; even made sure to mention that men and women are drafted in Israel. Trial balloon? or just a nut case? he was considered of State sec.
It might work in a country/society with a preexisting sense of unity/focus/purpose such as Israel (homeland for the jews). But to try to push it ontop of a very much divided society as a reason to force unity? Yeah, that sounds like an idea bound to fail. It will only cause more resentment and division. This guy is stupid, unless causing an actual upheaval/revolution is what his real intent is.
oyarde
11-06-2017, 12:49 PM
It might work in a country/society with a preexisting sense of unity/focus/purpose such as Israel (homeland for the jews). But to try to push it ontop of a very much divided society as a reason to force unity? Yeah, that sounds like an idea bound to fail. It will only cause more resentment and division. This guy is stupid, unless causing an actual upheaval/revolution is what his real intent is.
Super Chess .
euphemia
11-06-2017, 12:52 PM
The thing is, liberty does not happen in a vacuum. It always has a context. And consequences. We have allowed gunaphobia to rule. How's that working for us? Our elected reps pass laws prohibiting concealed carry in churches, so where are the targets? Churches. There was another shooting yesterday outside of a church in Fresno, California. Nobody is mentioning that.
William Tell
11-06-2017, 01:04 PM
It works a little differently if you say that at age 18 all Americans must report for mandatory training to become part of the Constitutional militia. The last thing we needs is a whole generation of people who are afraid of guns and do not know how to use them.They should learn how to use guns. But now they've made girls eligible for the draft. Considering 33% of women in the military have been raped or suffered attempted rape and 84% have been sexually assaulted or harassed I think I'd say the very last thing we need is a draft.
Raginfridus
11-06-2017, 01:27 PM
It might work in a country/society with a preexisting sense of unity/focus/purpose such as Israel (homeland for the jews). But to try to push it ontop of a very much divided society as a reason to force unity? Yeah, that sounds like an idea bound to fail. It will only cause more resentment and division. This guy is stupid, unless causing an actual upheaval/revolution is what his real intent is.Then again, if after 30 years a quiet cabal of libertarians got their hands on the weapons of war, while liberals and conservatives are killing each other to no end, there wouldn't be a whole lot of federal opposition left against states' rights.
euphemia
11-06-2017, 01:30 PM
They should learn how to use guns. But now they've made girls eligible for the draft. Considering 33% of women in the military have been raped or suffered attempted rape and 84% have been sexually assaulted or harassed I think I'd say the very last thing we need is a draft.
I'm not suggesting a draft. Many of my classmates had to register and some had draft numbers. Don't want to go down that path. However, we can't ignore what is happening today. Gunaphobia rules the day.
Swordsmyth
11-06-2017, 01:52 PM
Trial balloon? or just a nut case?
Both.
Swordsmyth
11-06-2017, 01:54 PM
The "Constitutional" militia were locals who were to protect their community, especially from bad government.
And that seems to be what euphemia is in favor of.
enhanced_deficit
11-06-2017, 06:04 PM
Allow me to hint that JB's speeches sound a bit crazy.. war hungry crazy all the time.
Ender
11-06-2017, 07:03 PM
I'm aware of that. Just flipping the context and pointing out what will happen if we allow the anti-gun indoctrination to continue.
Wow, for someone who claims to be the most brilliant man on the forums, I'm a little surprised you missed that bit of irony.
Never claimed to be the most brilliant- and was just detailing your remark, as most do not realize what the "militia" initially meant in the 2nd Amendment.
cindy25
11-07-2017, 12:13 AM
lol
Bolton may just be the dumbest piece of $#@! shill for Israel in the MSM. He never misses an opportunity to praise Israel.
The Dems want National servitude, even Hillary admitted that in her book; and the Republican establishment want perpetual war. Israel is always the excuse, but would Israel be so aggressive towards the Palestinians if Israel had a volunteer army. The Dems want an excuse for free college, and to weaken white males. other than Ron/Rand and maybe Kucinich there are few who really want to cut the military.
Danke
11-07-2017, 02:02 AM
John Bolton, Wimp
A Vietnam hawk who remained stateside.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/chatterbox/2005/04/john_bolton_wimp.html
anaconda
11-07-2017, 02:26 AM
That mustache robs him of all credibility.
Raginfridus
11-07-2017, 05:37 AM
"I confess I had no desire to die in a Southeast Asian rice paddy," Bolton wrote of his decision in the 25th reunion book. "I considered the war in Vietnam already lost."
What a pussy. He has no qualm suggesting others die for lost causes.
oyarde
11-07-2017, 09:12 AM
"I confess I had no desire to die in a Southeast Asian rice paddy," Bolton wrote of his decision in the 25th reunion book. "I considered the war in Vietnam already lost."
What a pussy. He has no qualm suggesting others die for lost causes.
Personally while wading in shit in the jungle kind of sucks it is no worse than the desert where you can stand in one place , do nothing and still see the sweat come through your leather boots .
euphemia
11-07-2017, 09:23 AM
Never claimed to be the most brilliant- and was just detailing your remark, as most do not realize what the "militia" initially meant in the 2nd Amendment.
Most? Most here certainly do. Give us a little credit. The consequence of some people's brand of liberty is that nobody listens and we are have a whole generation who would not take up arms for any reason.
Ender
11-07-2017, 10:42 AM
Most? Most here certainly do. Give us a little credit. The consequence of some people's brand of liberty is that nobody listens and we are have a whole generation who would not take up arms for any reason.
Sorry- that was not a personal jab- I've explained it many times on the forum, as a lot of people do not understand that the 2nd Amendment "militia" is not about a state or federal standing army. Just think it's an important element of the 2nd that many people miss.
XNavyNuke
11-13-2017, 07:13 AM
Yeah , they are pretty much already getting most of those that would be of any use to them .
Latest generation are fat, dumb, and happy. Also on psych meds, more life threatening allergies, and/or convicted felons than ever. Is it any wonder they embrace the Bern?
XNN
enhanced_deficit
03-15-2018, 11:21 PM
He could be next NSA.
Netanyahu ally Adelson wanted McMaster out because of his "anti Israel" views and he is out (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?520425-Netanyahu-ally-Adelson-wanted-McMaster-out-because-of-his-quot-anti-Israel-quot-views-and-he-is-out&)
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