Trump WH attacks Bush, Iraq war “one of greatest foreign policy mistakes in American history"

[enhanced_deficit]

Though this is pretty tiny "civil war" in GOP compared to full blown civil war going on in Dems, these are interesting fireworks that might help democratic transparency in the long run:


White House attacks legacies of both Bush presidents after reports that they refused to vote for Trump

By Avi Selk November 4

“If one Presidential candidate can disassemble a political party, it speaks volumes about how strong a legacy its past two presidents really had,” the White House wrote to CNN. It called the younger Bush's decision to wage war on Iraq “one of the greatest foreign policy mistakes in American history.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/11/04/both-bush-presidents-openly-condemned-trump-book-claims-one-even-voted-for-clinton/




Semi-related

Is the ongoing Surge of Police State in America a Surge of Karma? (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?444261-Is-the-ongoing-Surge-of-Police-State-in-America-a-Surge-of-Karma&)

Ongoing Surge of Police State in America has any relation to 80% of Americans supporting invasion of Iraq based on lies and then electing another dubious politician who surged war policies that resulted in surge of civilian deaths/raids on homes of people occupied with funding from American taxpayers?

[VIDEODROME]

Please drag George W. back into the spotlight

https://i1.wp.com/gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Eating-Popcorn-Soda.gif

[anaconda]

It wasn't a mistake. It was an establishment success. They busted the country up into several impotent pieces, stole the oil, built permanent military bases, secured the dollar against competing currencies, and enriched their cronies in the MIC. All on the dime of the U.S. taxpayers. I LOL every time I hear that the Iraq intrusion was a "mistake" or a "disaster."

[timosman]

It wasn't a mistake. It was an establishment success. They busted the country up into several impotent pieces, stole the oil, built permanent military bases, secured the dollar against competing currencies, and enriched their cronies in the MIC. All on the dime of the U.S. taxpayers. I LOL every time I hear that the Iraq intrusion was a "mistake" or a "disaster."

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RO-OobNCXG4/UYiJq-d8LHI/AAAAAAAALnI/Jlvw0-HZLMk/s1600/bush-mission-accomplished-iraq-thumbsup.jpg

[enhanced_deficit]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RO-OobNCXG4/UYiJq-d8LHI/AAAAAAAALnI/Jlvw0-HZLMk/s1600/bush-mission-accomplished-iraq-thumbsup.jpg


To be fair, he had Presidential class and knew how to conduct himself according to the dignity of the highest office of the land.
Even respected democrat Chuck Schumer admired Bush's class few days ago in a House speech.

[timosman]

To be fair, he had Presidential class and knew how to conduct himself according to the dignity of the highest office of the land.
Even respected democrat Chuck Schumer admired Bush's class few days ago in a House speech.

Most definitely, also certainly a great erudite:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be6tunbRcs8

[anaconda]

To be fair, he had Presidential class and knew how to conduct himself according to the dignity of the highest office of the land.
Even respected democrat Chuck Schumer admired Bush's class few days ago in a House speech.

Yes, he had empathy for the hard working people trying to put food on their families. Three jobs? "Uniquely American!" Slaughtering millions for his CFR overlords? Very classy!

[Suzanimal]

To be fair, he had Presidential class and knew how to conduct himself according to the dignity of the highest office of the land.
Even respected democrat Chuck Schumer admired Bush's class few days ago in a House speech.

I don't think it's classy to kill millions of people. I also don't respect Chuck Schumer.

[anaconda]

I don't think it's classy to kill millions of people.

But it is very "Presidential" over the last several decades, in lieu of congressional approvals for conflicts..

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/04/us-war-murdered-20-30-million-since-ww2-arrest-todays-war-criminals.html

[Ender]

But it is very "Presidential" over the last several decades, in lieu of congressional approvals for conflicts..

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/04/us-war-murdered-20-30-million-since-ww2-arrest-todays-war-criminals.html

Bush couldn't string 2 words together coherently- BUT his one class act was dodging that shoe. ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7oJaD5v5uA

[dannno]

Please drag George W. back into the spotlight

https://i1.wp.com/gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Eating-Popcorn-Soda.gif

Is that Zane Lamprey??

[r3volution 3.0]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTqoz0RYvVM

How about that TV character?

Boy. he's, well, he says what people want to hear on any particular day.

Wow, MAGA, super and terrific.

[Origanalist]

I don't think it's classy to kill millions of people. I also don't respect Chuck Schumer.

You Southrons still haven't figered out sarcasm...Oo..

[Suzanimal]

You Southrons still haven't figered out sarcasm...Oo..

I would - rep you for that but you don't have permission to view it, anyway.

[Origanalist]

I would - rep you for that but you don't have permission to view it, anyway.

That's fortuitous, your time would be better spent frying up some impossibly greasy Southern dish to clog Mr. A's arteries than trying to figer out how to - rep muaw.

[Suzanimal]

That's fortuitous, your time would be better spent frying up some impossibly greasy Southern dish to clog Mr. A's arteries than trying to figer out how to - rep muaw.

Mr A's veins are safe for now, I'm outta Crisco.

[Origanalist]

Mr A's veins are safe for now, I'm outta Crisco.

I think I'll let that statement speak for itself.

[William Tell]

Thank you WH. Now how about bringing all our troops home from the middle east. Please?

[Suzanimal]

I think I'll let that statement speak for itself.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH6Hf8Ie-qs

[Aratus]

Our debt is the size it is because of the War on Terror... Clinton balanced his budgets.
It is not domestic spending that sank us all into this big hole, it is our reaction to 911.

[Identity]

It wasn't a mistake. It was an establishment success. They busted the country up into several impotent pieces, stole the oil, built permanent military bases, secured the dollar against competing currencies, and enriched their cronies in the MIC. All on the dime of the U.S. taxpayers. I LOL every time I hear that the Iraq intrusion was a "mistake" or a "disaster."


Same. I remember people saying the war wasn't over oil because the price of oil was still expensive after the war. LOL. Obviously Iraq was largely for oil - if Saddam cut off our oil supply or did something crazy it'd send us spiraling into a geopolitical crisis. Now we have a vassal "democratic" puppet state that won't rock the boat for us in the near future. Suce$$.

[enhanced_deficit]

Same. I remember people saying the war wasn't over oil because the price of oil was still expensive after the war. LOL. Obviously Iraq was largely for oil - if Saddam cut off our oil supply or did something crazy it'd send us spiraling into a geopolitical crisis. Now we have a vassal "democratic" puppet state that won't rock the boat for us in the near future. Suce$$.

But the boat rocked, sort of, at home as a direct result of that "succe$$".
http://therealrevo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/oraq2.jpg





At the same time many believers for long time consumed the Iraq war as a revenge attack.. not sure if anyone sincerely believed that it was about spreading our freedom values in Iraq.

[anaconda]

But the boat rocked, sort of, at home as a direct result of that "succe$$".
http://therealrevo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/oraq2.jpg


I don't think the boat was rocked at all. The CFR was probably doing cartwheels at the idea of making socialism cool again, without having to change policy one iota. The two party charade was basking in all its glory in 2008. What a win to put a seamless puppet in to relieve Bush and have the American public think they had actually made a difference. Americans must certainly be the dumbest herd of creatures on the planet.

[GunnyFreedom]

Our debt is the size it is because of the War on Terror... Clinton balanced his budgets.
It is not domestic spending that sank us all into this big hole, it is our reaction to 911.

Clinton didn’t really balance his budgets, he just funged some cash into the General Fund from the Social Security Trust Fund to make it look like they balanced.

[enhanced_deficit]

I don't think the boat was rocked at all.


In the policy sense that is true, but symbolically and perhaps to an extent psycholgically for vast majority of Iraqi Freedom war supporters to see son of an African muslim man becomse US President just a few years afeter that war's "mission accomplishment was somewhat rocking event.





The CFR was probably doing cartwheels at the idea of making socialism cool again, without having to change policy one iota. The two party charade was basking in all its glory in 2008. What a win to put a seamless puppet in to relieve Bush and have the American public think they had actually made a difference.

Hard to disagree with that.

[Zippyjuan]

Our debt is the size it is because of the War on Terror... Clinton balanced his budgets.
It is not domestic spending that sank us all into this big hole, it is our reaction to 911.

Two Bush wars in Afghanistan and Iraq plus tax cuts sent the deficit soaring. From zero a year deficit to almost $1 trillion a year by the time he left office. Made Murika Great again!

The first Iraq war was over quickly and the allies paid for all of our costs so Bush Jr assumed his war would also be quick, easy and cheap. Still going and going.....