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angrydragon
07-01-2007, 07:54 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4467655342219448521

http://www.orwellrollsinhisgrave.com

Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Besides the death tax part, I thought it was pretty good.
I'm not sure if they were pushing for more regulation, but I don't think regulation is the answer. The corporate media will still have a monopoly thanks to the FCC granting licenses to these corporations. Better to just get rid of the FCC and get the government out.

"Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter."
- Thomas Jefferson

Relates with Moyer's show: Buying the War.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/btw/watch.html

And to the Spin documentary.

CurtisLow
07-01-2007, 10:55 PM
thanks for the links..

lucius
07-02-2007, 09:10 AM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4467655342219448521

http://www.orwellrollsinhisgrave.com

Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Besides the death tax part, I thought it was pretty good.
I'm not sure if they were pushing for more regulation, but I don't think regulation is the answer. The corporate media will still have a monopoly thanks to the FCC granting licenses to these corporations. Better to just get rid of the FCC and get the government out.

"Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter."
- Thomas Jefferson

Relates with Moyer's show: Buying the War.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/btw/watch.html

And to the Spin documentary.

It could of been me: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=46031&postcount=52

I give out many copies of that powerful DVD with wonderful results.

angrydragon
07-02-2007, 11:24 AM
Yah, lucius, i think it was you. Thanks.

I'll probably get the dvd soon.

Kuldebar
07-02-2007, 04:47 PM
My short review:

It is a documentary worth seeing, I do feel it misses the point on it's way to making other points.

For example, in various places several people interviewed bring up the topic of the concentration of wealth and how much harder and longer the average American worker needs to work today versus in the past in order to make ends meet... Well, that would have been a great place to have referenced the one factor that makes the whole charade possible: our inflationary monetary system and the Federal Reserve. Not only is it just one more thing never reported on by the large corporate media; the Federal Reserve and the whole corporate banking system are the actual framework used to perpetuate the continuing reign of the power elites on both sides of the corporate and political juggernaut.


In many ways, on all sides of the spectrum of political viewpoints, Americans have identified certain problems but fail to come up with a correct analysis.

It is like the story of the 5 blind men in the room trying to identify an elephant by touch. Each comes up with a different conclusion: a tree, a snake, a wall, etc...

The documentary fails the larger, and in my opinion, more worthy goal by treating the symptom as the actual problem instead of looking beyond the symptom and seeing the root cause, the enabler...the disease.

Not entirely unexpected, the documentary falls into the usual trap of resorting to the Left is good, the Right is bad mentality. In my opinion this is a very shallow way to reach conclusions because it overlooks the true nature and depth of the problem. Both political parties are culpable in participating, enabling and empowering the current system of abusive power.

Additionally, pointing fingers at conservative think tanks for doing what think tanks are created to do, is somewhat disingenuous. Historically, there has been more of an intellectual underpinning on the conservative side of politics then on the more modern liberal side which tends to be more emotionally based.