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enhanced_deficit
11-03-2017, 01:12 PM
Although we have Freedom Press, this if true was not cited in any "motive" discussions so far. Were Casino owners behind keeping these kind of details hidden so far if this is factual?
"Absolutely no motive visible" narrative has seemed strange from start.



Las Vegas shooter had been losing money for two years and 'was going in the wrong direction,' sheriff says

“He was going through some bouts of depression. But he was status-driven,” Lombardo said in a wide-ranging interview (http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/web-extra-george-knapp-interviews-sheriff-joe-lombardo/849308034) with 8 News Now in Las Vegas that offered the first hints of what might have driven 64-year-old Stephen Paddock (http://www.latimes.com/topic/crime-law-justice/crime/shootings/stephen-paddock-PEOCVC00467-topic.html) to open fire from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel.

Paddock (http://www.latimes.com/topic/crime-law-justice/bruce-paddock-PEOCVC00469-topic.html) had been losing money for two years, Lombardo said, and had been showing signs of depression.
“Since September 2015, he's lost a significant amount of wealth, and I think that might have been a determining factor on what he was determined to do,” Lombardo said in his Wednesday night interview.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooting-sheriff-20171102-story.html

TheTexan
11-03-2017, 01:23 PM
Ban gambling.

TheTexan
11-03-2017, 01:23 PM
Or at least require a license to gamble.

Which requires each person to pass a gambling addiction class, mental health checks, 3 day waiting period, and yearly renewal.

Many lives will be saved

enhanced_deficit
11-03-2017, 01:27 PM
... 3 day waiting period..

That alone could cause many Casino customers to change their minds to place big impulsive bets and could be very bad for Casino industry and all the jobs it creates.

Such cooling period idea is highly reckless, why would you even propose it?

TheTexan
11-03-2017, 01:29 PM
That alone could cause many Casino customers to change their minds to place big impulsive bets and could be very bad for Casino industry and all the jobs it creates.

Such cooling period idea is highly reckless, why would you even propose it?

Are you a lobbyist for the casinos? Why do you hate innocent people who don't want to be victimized by gambling addiction?

Do you just want people to become gambling addicts, lose all their money, hit rock bottom, and then kill 50+ people in Las Vegas?

Do you just want people to die?

enhanced_deficit
11-03-2017, 01:34 PM
To be fair, the Casino industry does encourage its customers to be "drugged" before conducting business with them... so that business is controversial for sure.

Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff reminds employees of workplace drinking ban: 'Alcohol is a drug'
Nov 1, 2017

dannno
11-03-2017, 01:48 PM
To be fair, the Casino industry does encourage its customers to be "drugged" before conducting business with them... so that business is controversial for sure.

Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff reminds employees of workplace drinking ban: 'Alcohol is a drug'
Nov 1, 2017

...so is caffeine :rolleyes:

nikcers
11-03-2017, 01:53 PM
So he was money laundering dirty money..

kahless
11-03-2017, 02:02 PM
Or at least require a license to gamble.

Which requires each person to pass a gambling addiction class, mental health checks, 3 day waiting period, and yearly renewal.

Many lives will be saved

You missed training must be from state accredited gambling institution.

Raginfridus
11-03-2017, 03:07 PM
I see. Debts with the casinos triggered Paddy to kill 50 pedestrians enjoying an unrelated concert? Vegas was built by toughs with long body counts; mass murder is just going to boost the legend of Vegas over time. So I can believe Paddy checked out a room for a night of stripper cake, rails, and booze capped by Russian roulette, but their theory he was angry w/ the casinos so he killed 50 peds sucks. Oh well, what happens in Vegas...

enhanced_deficit
11-03-2017, 05:48 PM
This little detail does not fill all the holes in the MSM news reports about the largest (or 2nd largest?) mass shooting in US history but it does offer somewhat plausible motive explanation.. not sure if it is probable also.
There is no MSM report that there has been deliberate coverup by LV Casino bigwigs or if they used their ties with Trump to spike any news stories, it won't matter in this case even if at least some of major Casino owners were major Trump donors and even Trump himself used tobe a casino owner.

Totally off topic, recall pre-election news report that detailed how Trump tried to entice a high roller from Japan back into his Casino after the guy had left with some winnings, how Trump hired smart math experts to manage games winning odds. The high roller did return and years later was killed in Japan in unrelated mob crime. Fascinaing piece in itself but for another time.

nikcers
11-03-2017, 05:54 PM
This little detail does not fill all the holes in the MSM news reports about the largest (or 2nd largest?) mass shooting in US history but it does offer somewhat plausible motive explanation.. not sure if it is probable also.
There is no MSM report that there has been deliberate coverup by LV Casino bigwigs or if they used their ties with Trump to spike any news stories, it won't matter in this case even if at least some of major Casino owners were major Trump donors and even Trump himself used tobe a casino owner.

Totally off topic, recall pre-election news report that detailed how Trump tried to entice a high roller from Japan back into his Casino after the guy had left with some winnings, how Trump hired smart math experts to manage games winning odds. The high roller did return and years later was killed in Japan in unrelated mob crime. Fascinaing piece in itself but for another time.

I don't remember where exactly I read it because there was so much fake news during the election but I remember distinctively there being some Vegas casino Chinese money laundering-election shenanigans with Bill Clinton's election.

Firestarter
11-04-2017, 06:50 AM
Can anybody find anything about the Las Vegas "mass shooting" that doesn't add up?
How about the impossibility of being and addictive gambler since 2006, and still a millionaire in 2017...

Following is a story from the “reliable” CNN.
It is based on a “deposition” from a $100,000 law suit filed by Paddock in 2012, against the Cosmopolitan Hotels & Resorts in 2011, after he slipped and fell down. The case was dismissed.

Reportedly Paddock gambled up to $1 million a night, which according to his statements isn't a lot of money.
He also told the court that he took some 45-50 valium pills in one and a half year (why would he tell that in court?).

What makes this less convincing, knowing the “high” standards of CNN, is that I couldn’t find the 97-page court document supposedly “deposed” on 29 October 2013 on the internet: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/09/us/las-vegas-stephen-paddock-deposition/index.html

enhanced_deficit
12-22-2017, 11:27 AM
There is no indication that motive reporting is being delayed by a year due to pressure from LV Casino owners, mega political donors:

5 hours ago
Las Vegas shooting: FBI official says info on motive may take until next October to release

By Greg Norman | Fox News

Oct. 3, 2017: Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo, left, responds to a question as Aaron Rouse, FBI Special Agent in Charge of the Las Vegas Division, looks on during a media briefing at the Las Vegas Metro Police headquarters in Las Vegas, Nev. (Reuters) Want to finally know why Stephen Paddock gunned down 58 people in Las Vegas in early October?

Be prepared to wait a while – possibly until next October – the chief of the FBI’s Las Vegas office revealed this week during an interview in which he said the agency probably wouldn't brief the public until their report is released sometime before the tragedy’s first anniversary.

“Now that’s a long time for some people, but speaking for the FBI, that’s light speed, all right?” Special Agent in Charge Aaron Rouse told the Las Vegas Review-Journal on Wednesday.

Rouse said reports from other agencies investigating the mass shooting will be released at different times, but the FBI’s one is “focusing a large part on the why” which is “what everybody wants to know.”
http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/us/2017/12/22/las-vegas-shooting-fbi-official-says-info-on-motive-may-take-until-next-october-to-release/_jcr_content/article-text/article-par-4/inline_spotlight_ima/image.img.jpg/612/344/1513884012904.jpg?ve=1&tl=1 In this Oct. 3, 2017, file photo, personal belongings and debris litters the Route 91 Harvest festival grounds across the street from the Mandalay Bay resort and casino in Las Vegas. (AP)

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/12/22/las-vegas-shooting-fbi-official-says-info-on-motive-may-take-until-next-october-to-release.html

Dark_Horse_Rider
12-22-2017, 03:11 PM
Losing money or washing money ?

enhanced_deficit
12-22-2017, 06:40 PM
Let's wait till investigations are completed and all the pertinent facts come out.

Marenco
12-22-2017, 07:09 PM
Let's wait till investigations are completed and all the pertinent facts come out.

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enhanced_deficit
05-16-2019, 11:40 PM
MGM might pay $800 million in Las Vegas shooting settlement

KEN RITTER
Associated Press
May 17, 2019

ILE - In this April 1, 2018, file photo, people carry flowers as they walk near the Mandalay Bay hotel and casino during a vigil for victims and survivors of a mass shooting in Las Vegas. Casino giant MGM Resorts is telling federal regulators it thinks it might pay up to $800 million to settle liability lawsuits stemming from the October 2017 mass shooting that became the deadliest in modern U.S. history. (AP Photo/John Locher, File)

LAS VEGAS (AP) — Casino giant MGM Resorts told federal regulators Thursday it might pay up to $800 million to settle liability lawsuits stemming from the 2017 mass shooting in Las Vegas — the deadliest in modern U.S. history.
"The company believes it is reasonably possible that a settlement will be reached" by next May, it told the Securities and Exchange Commission in a quarterly report.
MGM Resorts also said it has $751 million in insurance to pay toward a settlement.
However, a lawyer handling mediation talks for plaintiffs called it premature for the corporate owner of Mandalay Bay resort to report a possible settlement range between $735 million and $800 million.
"We're not even close to resolving all the terms and issues before we have a settlement," attorney Robert Eglet said.
He said he represents about 4,200 claimants, including those who have sued in Nevada, California and other states, and people who have not formally filed for damages.
"It's true that a settlement is possible," Eglet said. "But I will tell you it's not probable. Nothing is signed. We have a long way to go before we have an agreement."
Eglet said talks are ongoing with MGM Resorts attorneys, and that he was aware the company would make its report to the SEC.
Eglet said he reviewed the SEC document on Thursday and agreed that a settlement should be reached within a year.
Company spokeswoman Debra DeShong said progress has been made after multiple mediation sessions over several months.
The goal is "to resolve these matters so that all impacted can move forward in their healing process," she said.
MGM Resorts has defended itself against liability claims, outraging victims last summer when it filed lawsuits against more than 1,900 people in a bid to consolidate claims in one federal court.


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/mgm-resorts-reports-800m-possible-vegas-settlement-figure-203352499--finance.html