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AZJoe
10-24-2017, 12:23 PM
The TROOPS DO NOT DIE for THEIR COUNTRY (https://www.fff.org/2017/10/19/troops-not-die-country/)

U.S. troops who have been killed in Niger, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Vietnam, Korea, or other faraway places did not die to defend the rights and freedoms of the American people. That’s a lie, a lie that unfortunately is deeply embedded all across American society, including in churches. …

No one over there is invading the United States and trying to take away our rights and freedoms. Nonetheless, the lie persists …

Another lie is the one that says that U.S. soldiers who get killed over there have died for their country. … In reality though, U.S. soldiers who die in faraway lands have died for their government, not their country.

That notion shocks a lot of people. … the government and the country are two separate and distinct entities, a phenomenon implicitly recognized by the first ten amendments to U.S. Constitution … The Bill of Rights (http://oll.libertyfund.org/pages/1791-us-bill-of-rights-1st-10-amendments-with-commentary) expressly protects the country from the federal government …

If a foreign nation were to invade the United States, U.S. troops would be said to be defending their country. But no one is invading the United States. Instead, it is the U.S. government, operating through the troops, that is invading other countries. …

U.S. troops who have died in Niger, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Vietnam, or Korea have not died for their country. They have died for their employer, the U.S. government, which has ordered them into those faraway lands to kill or be killed. …

None of them died for their country. None of them died defending our rights and freedom here at home. …

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Ender
10-24-2017, 12:25 PM
The TROOPS DO NOT DIE for THEIR COUNTRY (https://www.fff.org/2017/10/19/troops-not-die-country/)

U.S. troops who have been killed in Niger, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Vietnam, Korea, or other faraway places did not die to defend the rights and freedoms of the American people. That’s a lie, a lie that unfortunately is deeply embedded all across American society, including in churches. …

No one over there is invading the United States and trying to take away our rights and freedoms. Nonetheless, the lie persists …

Another lie is the one that says that U.S. soldiers who get killed over there have died for their country. … In reality though, U.S. soldiers who die in faraway lands have died for their government, not their country.

That notion shocks a lot of people. … the government and the country are two separate and distinct entities, a phenomenon implicitly recognized by the first ten amendments to U.S. Constitution … The Bill of Rights expressly protects the country from the federal government …

If a foreign nation were to invade the United States, U.S. troops would be said to be defending their country. But no one is invading the United States. Instead, it is the U.S. government, operating through the troops, that is invading other countries. …

U.S. troops who have died in Niger, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Vietnam, or Korea have not died for their country. They have died for their employer, the U.S. government, which has ordered them into those faraway lands to kill or be killed. …

None of them died for their country. None of them died defending our rights and freedom here at home. …

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lewrockwell.com%2Fassets%2F201 4%2F03%2Fwhite-house-freedoms.jpg&f=1

^^THIS^^

Swordsmyth
10-24-2017, 12:29 PM
Many of them believe they are fighting for our freedom, but they are fighting for the Empire and those who benefit from it.

undergroundrr
10-24-2017, 12:41 PM
Really excellent post. And very sad.

Raginfridus
10-24-2017, 12:42 PM
Harsh, but true enough.

If our military were conscripts instead of volunteers, I think we'd have mutinied by now. That's not going to happen once drones take over operations.

Swordsmyth
10-24-2017, 12:45 PM
Harsh, but true enough.

If our military were conscripts instead of volunteers, I think we'd have mutinied by now. That's not going to happen once drones take over operations.

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Roger, Roger.

klamath
10-24-2017, 04:12 PM
They die imposing Trumps version of Noninterventionism.

Created4
10-24-2017, 04:55 PM
They die imposing Trumps version of Noninterventionism.

Does Trump endorse "Noninterventionism"?

I thought he campaigned on the concept of an expanded military, and expanded military operations....

klamath
10-24-2017, 04:57 PM
Does Trump endorse "Noninterventionism"?

I thought he campaigned on the concept of an expanded military, and expanded military operations....Not according to the trump supporters on here. He was the second RP, didn't you hear.