Trump embarrassed, mad after supporting Strange's losing bid, reports say

[William Tell]

Trump embarrassed, mad after supporting Strange's losing bid, reports say
President Donald Trump is embarrassed and angry after Luther Strange lost the GOP Senate runoff Tuesday night, despite an all-out effort on his behalf by the White House, reports say.


Citing sources close to the president, (http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/27/politics/donald-trump-alabama-race-roy-moore/index.html) CNN said Trump expressed his anger at his political team and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell who helped for helping consolidate support behind Strange, who was appointed to the Senate after Jeff Sessions was named U.S. Attorney General. Trump tweeted his endorsement of Strange in the weeks leading up to the Republican runoff with former Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, even appearing at a rally on "Big Luther's" behalf last week.


It wasn't enough on election night, with Moore winning 63 of Alabama's 67 counties.

(http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/09/roy_moore_wins_alabama_senate.html)

Trump "knew (backing Strange) was a mistake but it was one he was willing to make because Luther was loyal," a senior White House official told CNN. The president went to bed "embarrassed and pissed," after the loss, another said.


Trump tweeted his congratulation to Moore Tuesday night and shortly afterwards began deleting his earlier pro-Strange tweets.

(http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/09/trump_deletes_pro-luther_stran.html)

Earlier Tuesday, reports emerged that Trump (http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/09/trump_thinks_moore_will_win_se.html) regretted backing Strange, saying he didn't have a lot of charisma or energy on the campaign trail and the president was concerned he had linked himself to a losing candidate.


http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/09/trump_embarrassed_mad_after_su.html#incart_river_i ndex

[angelatc]

CNN citing anonymous sources close to the president. Seems legit.

[FSP-Rebel]

Good.

[William Tell]

CNN citing anonymous sources close to the president. Seems legit.

Yeah, well I'm sure he's thrilled he got his ass handed to him politically for the first time. MAGA.

[TheCount]

Yeah, well I'm sure he's thrilled he got his ass handed to him politically for the first time. MAGA.
He got tired of winning.

[William Tell]

He got tired of winning.

Campaign promise fulfilled. He should spin it that way.

[Anti Federalist]

CNN said Trump expressed his anger at his political team and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell who helped for helping consolidate support behind Strange

When's this guy gonna learn that McConnell and McCain and all the rest are no more his "friend" than Maxine Waters or Chucky Schumer.

[acptulsa]

When's this guy gonna learn that McConnell and McCain and all the rest are no more his "friend" than Maxine Waters or Chucky Schumer.

About the time he stops being controlled opposition.

Unless and until then, they are his friends. Playacting not withstanding.

I just find it interesting that the U.S. has become such a gaggle of conformist libertines that someone named Strange can't get elected, but any number of people named Wiener can.

[William Tell]

http://image.al.com/home/bama-media/width960/img/opinion/photo/9-27strangejudgyvertjpg-69783ae98eed1327.jpg

[Origanalist]

http://image.al.com/home/bama-media/width960/img/opinion/photo/9-27strangejudgyvertjpg-69783ae98eed1327.jpg

That's pretty creepy.

[acptulsa]

That's pretty creepy.

Creepy, yes. Pretty? No.

[spudea]

Yeah, well I'm sure he's thrilled he got his ass handed to him politically for the first time. MAGA.

Trumps base wanted Moore and Moore is 100% MAGA agenda, unbeholden to the establishment swamp. Trump wins.

[specsaregood]

Trumps base wanted Moore and Moore is 100% MAGA agenda, unbeholden to the establishment swamp. Trump wins.

Despite all the evidence that trump doesn't really support MAGA.

[acptulsa]

Trumps base wanted Moore and Moore is 100% MAGA agenda, unbeholden to the establishment swamp. Trump wins.

So, Trump is embarrassed and mad that Trump won.

Now tell us again how he isn't controlled opposition. We just never get tired of hearing it... :)

btw, BBC is trying to spin this as a GOP divided against itself and preparing to bleed votes to the Democrats next year. Anyone believe that?

[Origanalist]

Trumps base wanted Moore and Moore is 100% MAGA agenda, unbeholden to the establishment swamp. Trump wins.

Ok dannno.

[Raginfridus]

So, Trump is embarrassed and mad that Trump won.

Now tell us again how he isn't controlled opposition. We just never get tired of hearing it... :)

btw, BBC is trying to spin this as a GOP divided against itself and preparing to bleed votes to the Democrats next year. Anyone believe that?I don't believe much out of the mythical land of Britannia, much less from her Official Story™ spin doctors.

They're still confused by crop circles.

[Zippyjuan]

Trump at a rally on Friday: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/09/23/trump_i_might_have_made_a_mistake_endorsing_strang e_will_be_called_an_embarrassment_if_he_loses.html


"I might have made a mistake and I'll be honest I might have made a mistake," Trump told the crowd at the rally. "If Luther doesn't win, they're not going to say we picked up 25 points in a very short period of time. They're going to say 'Donald Trump, the president of the United States, was unable to pull his candidate across the line. It is a terrible, terrible moment for Trump. This is total embarrassment'."

"I mean, these are bad people!"

Trump praised Moore as a good man and said to Strange, "I have to say this, if his opponent wins, I'm going to be here campaigning like hell for him."

"But I have to say this, and you understand this and just look at the polls, Luther will definitely win," Trump said.

"Roy has a very good chance of not winning in the general election. It's all about the general. Don't forget, we don't stop here. You have an election coming up the day this is over. So this is over on Tuesday. On Wednesday morning, the new race begins. You've got to beat a Democrat. Luther is going to win easily and Roy's going to have a hard time winning. But I will be backing him if he wins. I will be backing him, OK? I'll tell you that," Trump hedged.

Luther lost.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRjzxupscwQ

[AuH20]

Despite all the evidence that trump doesn't really support MAGA.

Quite possible. He didn't throw a ladder to the MAGA people when he was filling his cabinet. He let Reince do the hiring.

[dannno]

Trump at a rally on Friday: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/09/23/trump_i_might_have_made_a_mistake_endorsing_strang e_will_be_called_an_embarrassment_if_he_loses.html




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRjzxupscwQ

https://larouchepac.com/sites/default/files/styles/banner/public/nothingburger.JPEG?itok=9CcZ2wX1

[phill4paul]

<Some dumbshit gif to deflect from the idiocracy of his God Emporer>

Lol. Give it up man.

[dannno]

Lol. Give it up man.

Give what up? This thread is retarded. I don't mind it being posted, but who the hell cares? Trump doesn't have the time to get in the weeds and figure out all these little primary races out, and it turns out this one didn't really matter but he got into it anyway.. but it had no affect on anything, so at this point what difference does it make?

[Zippyjuan]

Give what up? This thread is retarded. I don't mind it being posted, but who the hell cares? Trump doesn't have the time to get in the weeds and figure out all these little primary races out, and it turns out this one didn't really matter but he got into it anyway.. but it had no affect on anything, so at this point what difference does it make?

You are right- Trump should do more homework before he dives off into some issue. But he does that all of the time. That is Donald being Donald.

[phill4paul]

Give what up? This thread is retarded. I don't mind it being posted, but who the hell cares? Trump doesn't have the time to get in the weeds and figure out all these little primary races out, and it turns out this one didn't really matter but he got into it anyway.. but it had no affect on anything, so at this point what difference does it make?

Your continued support for a fucktard. If he doesn't have time to get in the weeds then he needs to stay the hell out of it.

[dannno]

Your continued support for a fucktard. If he doesn't have time to get in the weeds then he needs to stay the hell out of it.

What support?? I just said it was retarded, because it is, not due to any support I have or don't have.

Second sentence is also dumb, Trump does need to put some effort into getting people in congress who aren't deep state so he can actually accomplish some things. It just sounds like this one was a waste of time, however, he didn't really waste any time to speak, maybe whatever it takes to type out a tweet or two, thus it is a non-issue.

[specsaregood]

If he doesn't have time to get in the weeds then he needs to stay the hell out of it.

or consider replacing the people giving him bad advice with people that supported his campaign agenda and still are supporting it.

[phill4paul]

What support?? I just said it was retarded, because it is, not due to any support I have or don't have.

Second sentence is also dumb, Trump does need to put some effort into getting people in congress who aren't deep state so he can actually accomplish some things. It just sounds like this one was a waste of time, however, he didn't really waste any time to speak, maybe whatever it takes to type out a tweet or two, thus it is a non-issue.

Every time Trumps screws the pooch you try to explain away using some kinda Cernovich/Molyneux/Jones bullshit. Deny it all you want. I don't know why you even come to these forums anymore. Even the majority of Trump humpers have moved on after there mission was accomplished.

[Zippyjuan]

What support?? I just said it was retarded, because it is, not due to any support I have or don't have.

Second sentence is also dumb, Trump does need to put some effort into getting people in congress who aren't deep state so he can actually accomplish some things. It just sounds like this one was a waste of time, however, he didn't really waste any time to speak, maybe whatever it takes to type out a tweet or two, thus it is a non-issue.

Um. My video is from a speech he flew into town to make. It wasn't a tweet. He has been busy deleting the tweets he did send. I think you jumped into the weeds before checking.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/09/23/i-love-alabama-its-special-at-rally-for-sen-luther-strange-trump-vents-frustrations-in-rambling-speech/?utm_term=.15e4376147fe


HUNTSVILLE, Ala. — President Trump spent the first 25 minutes of a Friday night campaign rally explaining and defending his decision to endorse the Republican establishment’s pick for the Alabama Senate race.

Then, he basically took it all back.

“I might have made a mistake. I’ll be honest, I might have made a mistake,” Trump told a crowd of several thousand gathered at the Von Braun Center that cheered much louder for him than for the candidate he was there to support, Sen. Luther Strange, who was appointed earlier this year to fill the seat vacated by Attorney General Jeff Sessions.


Prominent Republican leaders aggressively lobbied the president to travel to Alabama to campaign with Strange, something that Trump himself said was a great risk. He was greeted by a full house of supporters, many of whom stayed on their feet during the entire rally, laughing at his jokes and cheering his attacks on political and foreign adversaries.

The president's rambling speech lasted nearly 90 minutes. He repeatedly cursed, mocked the leader of North Korea, jokingly threatened to fire a Cabinet member who endorsed Moore, called on professional football team owners to fire players who kneel during the national anthem, promised to build a new “see-through wall” on the southern border, called allegations of Russian interference in the election a “hoax,” accused unions of protecting “sadists” who abuse elderly veterans, and repeatedly relived the 2016 election.

[spudea]

Yeah, well I'm sure he's thrilled he got his ass handed to him politically for the first time. MAGA.

Do tell how is this bad for President Trump? All President Trump did was give a speech and send out a few tweets, literally nothing invested. The lying corrupt media will try to spin anything against President Trump. If President Trump had endorsed Moore, the media stories would be how Moore is racist bigoted anti gay anti immigrant, and another example of racist President Trump. Even the CNN source admits that President Trump expected Strange to lose before the election. So the expected happened, and you think now he's upset, what he knew would happen happened...

[phill4paul]

Do tell how is this bad for President Trump? All President Trump did was give a speech and send out a few tweets, literally nothing invested. The lying corrupt media will try to spin anything against President Trump. If President Trump had endorsed Moore, the media stories would be how Moore is racist bigoted anti gay anti immigrant, and another example of racist President Trump. Even the CNN source admits that President Trump expected Strange to lose before the election. So the expected happened, and you think now he's upset, what he knew would happen happened...

Or, you know, don't open your gob about the situation. An "I'm sure the fine people of Alabama, the many, many fine people of Alabama, tremendous people, will choose who best represents them" would have probably sufficed.

[William Tell]

Do tell how is this bad for President Trump?Is this a serious question?



All President Trump did was give a speech and send out a few tweets, literally nothing invested. That's an interesting spin. Trump flew himself and Pence all the way to Alabama and set up rallies that cost millions. And pushed all over the news for people to back Luther. How has a president ever invested more? They don't knock on doors.

Trump's candidate won 4 out of 67 counties proving a Donald Trump endorsement doesn't amount to shit. He pretended he didn't know Roy's name but now he does.


The lying corrupt media will try to spin anything against President Trump. If President Trump had endorsed Moore, the media stories would be how Moore is racist bigoted anti gay anti immigrant, and another example of racist President Trump.Lol, well he's endorsed him now. So he's labeled that way as well as endorsing a squishy loser to please McConnell. He didn't have to endorse anybody, now he's endorsed both.


Even the CNN source admits that President Trump expected Strange to lose before the election.
So the expected happened, and you think now he's upset, what he knew would happen happened...You don't get it. Trump thought flying to Alabama would turn the tide. He was dead wrong, his ego blinded him. Afterwards he saw the polls the day before the election and saw the Alabama voters didn't care about his opinion. On election day Roy did better than people thought he would even before Trump threw his full weight against him.

[Origanalist]

Give what up? This thread is retarded. I don't mind it being posted, but who the hell cares? Trump doesn't have the time to get in the weeds and figure out all these little primary races out, and it turns out this one didn't really matter but he got into it anyway.. but it had no affect on anything, so at this point what difference does it make?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEpEiBf8vvo

[Origanalist]

Lol, the Trumpbots are in full spin mode.

[William Tell]

Give what up? This thread is retarded. I don't mind it being posted, but who the hell cares? Trump doesn't have the time to get in the weeds and figure out all these little primary races out, and it turns out this one didn't really matter but he got into it anyway.. but it had no affect on anything, so at this point what difference does it make?This wasn't a little primary race, it was the epic battle between the grassroots and Mitch McConnell to set the stage for 2018. And Trump was on the wrong side in both possible ways. He sided with evil, and he sided with a loser. That he didn't make a difference is the point. Trump and the establishment threw all they had at Moore and he showed them who's daddy.

[dannno]

This wasn't a little primary race, it was the epic battle between the grassroots and Mitch McConnell to set the stage for 2018. And Trump was on the wrong side in both possible ways. He sided with evil, and he sided with a loser. That he didn't make a difference is the point. Trump and the establishment threw all they had at Moore and he showed them who's daddy.

Maybe the people felt Trump's insincerity.

[dannno]

I don't know why you even come to these forums anymore. Even the majority of Trump humpers have moved on after there mission was accomplished.

Lol, one could argue I was here before you.. I was definitely here before Trump got into the political foray, and I didn't come out in supporting him on much of anything until the last few months or so of his campaign against Hillary. Why would anything that happens to Trump have anything to do with whether I am here or not?

[Wooden Indian]

Lol, one could argue I was here before you.. I was definitely here before Trump got into the political foray, and I didn't come out in supporting him on much of anything until the last few months or so of his campaign against Hillary. Why would anything that happens to Trump have anything to do with whether I am here or not?

Ladies any gentlemen, I present to you...


THE NEW ZIPPY 2.O

[dannno]

Ladies any gentlemen, I present to you...


THE NEW ZIPPY 2.O

So Zippy 2.0 presents the anti-establishment narrative?

[spudea]

Is this a serious question?


That's an interesting spin. Trump flew himself and Pence all the way to Alabama and set up rallies that cost millions. And pushed all over the news for people to back Luther. How has a president ever invested more? They don't knock on doors.

Trump's candidate won 4 out of 67 counties proving a Donald Trump endorsement doesn't amount to $#@!. He pretended he didn't know Roy's name but now he does.

Lol, well he's endorsed him now. So he's labeled that way as well as endorsing a squishy loser to please McConnell. He didn't have to endorse anybody, now he's endorsed both.
You don't get it. Trump thought flying to Alabama would turn the tide. He was dead wrong, his ego blinded him. Afterwards he saw the polls the day before the election and saw the Alabama voters didn't care about his opinion. On election day Roy did better than people thought he would even before Trump threw his full weight against him.

So you can't say how it hurt Trump.... Does it hurt him with his base? No. Does it hurt him in the senate? No. Does it hurt the establishment? Yes.

He's winning on all counts and all you have is a lying CNN source saying his ego is hurt. You don't get it. You probably thought Hillary would win too. Go back to watching your TV.

Pathetic!

[acptulsa]

So Zippy 2.0 presents the anti-establishment narrative?

Why, no. No you don't. You think you do, but you regurgitate fake news all the time.


So you can't say how it hurt Trump.... Does it hurt him with his base? No. Does it hurt him in the senate? No. Does it hurt the establishment? Yes.

So, Trump shilling for establishment candidates hurts the establishment. Well then. Interesting admission for you to make.

[Ender]

So you can't say how it hurt Trump.... Does it hurt him with his base? No. Does it hurt him in the senate? No. Does it hurt the establishment? Yes.

He's winning on all counts and all you have is a lying CNN source saying his ego is hurt. You don't get it. You probably thought Hillary would win too. Go back to watching your TV.

Pathetic!

YOU are calling William Tell, one of THE best posters on the forum, pathetic?

Go back to adoring Trump. :rolleyes:

[Ender]

Why, no. No you don't. You think you do, but you regurgitate fake news all the time.



So, Trump shilling for establishment candidates hurts the establishment. Well then. Interesting admission for you to make.

Exactly.

[Origanalist]

So you can't say how it hurt Trump.... Does it hurt him with his base? No. Does it hurt him in the senate? No. Does it hurt the establishment? Yes.

He's winning on all counts and all you have is a lying CNN source saying his ego is hurt. You don't get it. You probably thought Hillary would win too. Go back to watching your TV.

Pathetic!

What happened to you sig line?

[spudea]

What happened to you sig line?

It appears posting from my mobile phone removed it. Thanks for the info.

[spudea]

YOU are calling William Tell, one of THE best posters on the forum, pathetic?

Go back to adoring Trump. :rolleyes:

That's not an argument. Reputation does not immunize anyone from criticism. Cheers mate.

[Origanalist]

That's not an argument. Reputation does not immunize anyone from criticism. Cheers mate.

I didn't see any reference to rep.

[phill4paul]

So you can't say how it hurt Trump.... Does it hurt him with his base? No. Does it hurt him in the senate? No. Does it hurt the establishment? Yes.

He's winning on all counts and all you have is a lying CNN source saying his ego is hurt. You don't get it. You probably thought Hillary would win too. Go back to watching your TV.

Pathetic!

Failed to drain the swamp by surrounding himself with swamp dwellers. Failed to push repeal when repeal was possible, possibly the only time it will ever be possible. Failed to change Obama's foreign policy regarding war in the middle-east. Failed to pull out of NAFTA. Failed to get Mexico to pay for a border wall.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/9f/bf/12/9fbf1224f8d75cffef63a1919aabebee--charlie-sheen-winning-ferris-bueller.jpg

[anaconda]

Yeah, well I'm sure he's thrilled he got his ass handed to him politically for the first time. MAGA.

And that requires big hands.

[anaconda]

Rand showed significant, yet perhaps not gushing, support for Moore.

https://www.redstate.com/diary/southernconstitutionalist/2017/09/23/rand-paul-bucks-mitch-mcconnell-shows-support-judge-roy-moore/

[phill4paul]

Rand showed significant, yet perhaps not gushing, support for Moore.

https://www.redstate.com/diary/southernconstitutionalist/2017/09/23/rand-paul-bucks-mitch-mcconnell-shows-support-judge-roy-moore/

So did Massie. And Moore seems to be in line with their thinking. I suppose we will see.

[anaconda]

A look at the December general election:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/who-is-doug-jones-and-can-he-defeat-roy-moore-in-conservative-alabama/2017/09/27/c89e2df2-a2fb-11e7-b14f-f41773cd5a14_story.html?utm_term=.a7fcd1f1e5a3

[anaconda]

So did Massie. And Moore seems to be in line with their thinking. I suppose we will see.

Well, Ron Paul did endorse Chuck Baldwin in 2008. Sounds like this may be analogous.

Baldwin on Moore:

http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Articles/tabid/109/ID/3650/Trump-Pence-McConnell-And-Washington-Establishment-Vs-Judge-Roy-Moore.aspx

[phill4paul]

A look at the December general election:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/who-is-doug-jones-and-can-he-defeat-roy-moore-in-conservative-alabama/2017/09/27/c89e2df2-a2fb-11e7-b14f-f41773cd5a14_story.html?utm_term=.a7fcd1f1e5a3

Not a subscriber. What is the gist of the article?

[anaconda]

Not a subscriber. What is the gist of the article?

Oops. Sorry. I'm not a subscriber either, but I do have an account. I get to view a limited number of articles per month. Thanks for pointing that out. The Dem opponent may not be worth spending the money. But he has big civil rights credibility for prosecuting the 1960's church bombing.


Here's another one:

http://www.al.com/news/mobile/index.ssf/2017/09/next_up_moore_v_jones_in_alaba.html

[enhanced_deficit]

He is sometimes called 'Teflon Don'... is his so called de-sensitivity due to abundance of conditioning from series of humiliations he has suffered throughout his career/life?

[anaconda]

He is sometimes called 'Teflon Don'... is his so called de-sensitivity due to abundance of conditioning from series of humiliations he has suffered throughout his career/life?

He's a black belt among other things.

[The Rebel Poet]

Ladies any gentlemen, I present to you...


THE NEW ZIPPY 2.O

Maybe he's more like TheTexan jr.

[Tywysog Cymru]

I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that the President should be getting involved in local primary battles.

[anaconda]

Trump doesn't have the time to get in the weeds and figure out all these little primary races out, and it turns out this one didn't really matter but he got into it anyway.. but it had no affect on anything, so at this point what difference does it make?

I wouldn't necessarily call it a "little" primary. Moore will likely win the general election and become a Senator. PLUS he will likely cast votes per the Constitution.

[EBounding]

914269704440737792

[anaconda]

In analyzing the Alabama Primary race,FAKE NEWS always fails to mention that the candidate I endorsed went up MANY points after endorsement!


That statement is far too shamelessly self-aggrandizing to believe that anyone would have ever actually said it. It must be FAKE NEWS.

[asurfaholic]

914269704440737792

What a friggin tool. He only wants people to slobber all over his knob. He isn't president to work for the people, he's president so people can stroke his ego- but when people don't, he rubs it out himself.