Rand: Possibly news from WhiteHouse re Health Associations - within 2 weeks

[Valli6]

Rand Paul on Morning Joe. "Could be big news from White House in next week or 2"
Could reinterpret existing ARISA law about who can form an association. Also Rand's ideas about North Korea.

"I don't think people on the left are gonna hate it."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV7PZjv6MGo

[dannno]

It's not going to happen because there are too many people on Ron Paul Forums who are skeptical that Trump would ever actually do anything good.

Thanks a lot, guys.

[phill4paul]

He mentioned this on Hannity last week. Hopefully it happens.

[William Tell]

It's not going to happen because there are too many people on Ron Paul Forums who are skeptical that Trump would ever actually do anything good.

Thanks a lot, guys.LOL, so you are waiting too?:D Seriously hope Rand is right, we'll see. Since the good Judge humbled him last night POTUS will be looking for some way to reclaim the spotlight.

[specsaregood]

He mentioned this on Hannity last week. Hopefully it happens.

Randal has been saying this for months now though...

[William Tell]

Randal has been saying this for months now though...
Yeah I think he started saying the 2 weeks thing a week or two ago.

[Valli6]

According to the Washington Examiner


Trump preparing executive order to let Americans purchase health insurance across state lines

by Gabby Morrongiello | Sep 27, 2017, 1:05 PM

President Trump is preparing an executive order to allow people to purchase health insurance across state lines, a reform conservatives have long championed as a way to bring costs down and stir greater competition in the national marketplace.

The executive action gives the White House a chance to follow through on at least one promise related to healthcare reform after Senate Republicans' second attempt to overhaul Obamacare failed this week. Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul first mentioned the action during a TV appearance Wednesday morning, saying Trump was considering taking matters into his own hands.

"I think there's going to be big news from the White House in the next week or two, something they can do on their own," Paul told MSNBC, adding that Trump "can legalize on his own the ability of individuals to join a group or a health association across state lines and buy insurance."

A Senate GOP source told the Washington Examiner the executive action is considered "a done deal" and likely to be announced "in the next few weeks."

Trump later confirmed to reporters he is likely to issue an order permitting "people to go out across state lines, do lots of things, and buy their own healthcare."

The president described the forthcoming executive action as "very major," adding he also intends to spend the next few months negotiating with Democrats on a bipartisan healthcare bill.

Paul said he has discussed the proposal with the president and Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta on "multiple occasions" while the Senate was focused on advancing the Graham-Cassidy bill, which was pulled from a vote on Tuesday.

more: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-preparing-executive-order-to-let-americans-purchase-health-insurance-across-state-lines/article/2635808

[grizzums]

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/354404-trump-to-sign-order-rolling-back-health-insurance-regulations-report

“The order will direct the Departments of Health and Human Services (HHS), Labor, and Treasury to make it easier for individuals to group together and purchase insurance through "association health plans," according to the report.

The president also directs the agencies in the order to roll back the Obama administration regulations of “short-term medical insurance,” which is a cheap limited-protection option that the former administration claimed did not provide adequate coverage for individuals. ”

[The Northbreather]

It's not going to happen because there are too many people on Ron Paul Forums who are skeptical that Trump would ever actually do anything good.

Thanks a lot, guys.
I'm skeptical and waiting.

I definitely have no reason to hate the guy but damn.

With all his jabbering I wish he'd direct his trolling skills at something worthwhile. Troll the damn Federal Reserve instead of chubby cult leaders..

Can you imagine what kind of conversations Dr. Paul could start with that kind of reach?

Damn

[timosman]

Can you imagine what kind of conversations Dr. Paul could start with that kind of reach?

Why didn't he?


Randal: Hey Donald, can we talk about the Federal Reserve?
Donald: What about it?
Randal: My dad thinks it is bad.
Donald: What do you think we should do?
Randal: Well, we should at least audit it.
Donald: Do you want to topple the house of cards? Are you nuts?

[specsaregood]

Randal has been saying this for months now though...

Well looks like it is finally happening today:
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/10/12/Trump-expected-to-sign-executive-order-to-overhaul-ACA-rules/7581507806543/

excerpts:


Trump will sign the order -- designed to "promote healthcare choice and competition" -- at 11:15 a.m. EDT, the White House said.
...
The order is expected to place limits on short-term health insurance plans and encourage cheaper and more loosely regulated health plans aimed at younger, healthier people. By allowing healthier people to seek coverage elsewhere, experts worry that could leave less healthy participants on the hook for the difference.
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Within a year, this would kill the market," said Karen Pollitz, who worked for former President Barack Obama's Health and Human Services Department.
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The new association definition could cover small businesses, trade groups, unions and self-employed individuals. Under such a change, associations would not have to meet ACA benefit requirements or cover a minimum percentage of employee healthcare costs.

With associations, health care providers can effectively choose the most desirable participants, allowing the healthy to make the switch to save money -- and potentially shutting out the less healthy.

"No one healthy is now going to sign up in the ACA risk pool, because they have this cheaper option," Deep Banerjee, a health care analyst at S&P Global Ratings said.

The Hill reported that Sen. Rand Paul is expected to be in attendance at the unveiling of the executive order on Thursday. For months, he has pushed a presidential order -- arguing that allowing small businesses to band together to buy insurance gives them leverage to lower premiums.

more at link...


This is a BIG win for Randal.

[William Tell]

Well looks like it is finally happening today:
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/10/12/Trump-expected-to-sign-executive-order-to-overhaul-ACA-rules/7581507806543/

excerpts:


This is a BIG win for Randal.Great! Now how about getting rid of that mandate?

[specsaregood]

Great! Now how about getting rid of that mandate?

but would doing that via executive order be constitutional?

[AuH20]

Say it with me Democrat scum. INTERSTATE COMMERCE CLAUSE. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

[timosman]

Say it with me Democrat scum. INTERSTATE COMMERCE CLAUSE. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

Please explain for the lesser minds out there.:cool:

[AuH20]

Please explain for the lesser minds out there.:cool:

Democrat state attorneys want to take the EO to court. Let them. They created their own misery.

[Dr.3D]

Well, Trump just signed the Executive Order and handed Rand the pen. :)

[specsaregood]

Well, Trump just signed the Executive Order and handed Rand the pen. :)

nice!



If the executive order is as expansive as it sounds, it could severely destabilize the individual and small business insurance markets," said Larry Levitt, a health policy expert at the Kaiser Family Foundation, on Twitter.

meaning: it wont be as easy to totally screw over the self-employed and small businesses.

[Dr.3D]

Let the free market competition begin.

[AuH20]

It would be incredibly revealing if John Roberts attempts to save Obamacare again.

[timosman]

Well, Trump just signed the Executive Order and handed Rand the pen. :)

https://youtu.be/RXaGXGvCivc?t=17m43s

[Valli6]

D'oh! Just missed it live. Found video. Rand is there.

Skip to about 14:15. Trump enters around 15 minute point. Rand speaks around 16:10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omK2Ixf4NDA

[AuH20]

Huff Post isn't taking this well.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-executive-order-obamacare_us_59de1dbde4b01df09b77ad19?ncid=inblnku shpmg00000009

[specsaregood]

D'oh! Just missed it live. Found video. Rand is there.

Skip to about 14:15. Trump enters around 15 minute point. Rand speaks around 16:10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omK2Ixf4NDA

Also Randal was the last person to come into the room, right before trump. @14:00 into the video.

[dannno]

When you get Rand Paul on your side it has to be positive

-Donald Trump


Hillary would have said that.

[specsaregood]

And at @21:40, that is a heck of a compliment for Randal from Trump: "And I can say, when you get Rand Paul on your side, it has to be positive."

[AuH20]

Very proud of Rand. I have to commend him. I hope the relationship continues to provide benefits like this.

[AuH20]

They are already declaring this EO as another sign of Trump's worsening mental state. They say Rand Paul is a pariah on the Hill and that no one should be listening to him. Both dem and rep leadership gatekeepers can't be happy with the optics of this.

[Valli6]

A good day, and Rand is looking good. Hope for the future!

And at @21:40, that is a heck of a compliment for Randal from Trump: "And I can say, when you get Rand Paul on your side, it has to be positive."
...and he gave Rand the pen he signed it with. :) (31:20.)

[euphemia]

but would doing that via executive order be constitutional?

Actually, yes. The HHS Sec answers directly to the President, and the way the order is written, it addresses what the Secretary "may" or "shall" do, which is merely clarifying how that is to be done. The President has issued directives based on the authority ascribed to him and the sec in the bill.

[specsaregood]

Actually, yes. The HHS Sec answers directly to the President, and the way the order is written, it addresses what the Secretary "may" or "shall" do, which is merely clarifying how that is to be done. The President has issued directives based on the authority ascribed to him and the sec in the bill.

Are you talking about the EO today in the OP or what AUH20 proposed about removing the mandate via EO?

[euphemia]

I'm talking about today's EO. Not worth a new thread for what appears to be the incremental dismantling of ACA.

[specsaregood]

I'm talking about today's EO. Not worth a new thread for what appears to be the incremental dismantling of ACA.
yeah, todays EO was completely constitutional, randal had talked about that in depth in a number of interviews. I don't think he would have pushed for this so hard if he didn't think it was. I was referring to what AUh2o said about the mandate being next.

[euphemia]

It might well be.

[William Tell]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUDLfAIsjT8