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goldenequity
09-19-2017, 06:13 PM
Morgan Freeman: 'We Are At War With Russia' (Pollywood)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cjrZZyxowo

RJB
09-19-2017, 06:38 PM
The word war has been thrown around way too loosely for the last 50 years. Does he have any clue what a real war with Russia entail?

donnay
09-19-2017, 06:40 PM
Morgan has done some good like...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aXKL3EegW0

But then one must remember he is just a preformer. *SIGH*

mrsat_98
09-19-2017, 06:50 PM
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nikcers
09-19-2017, 07:34 PM
Oh my god, I like watching these videos you guys post but I can normally only go a minute in before cringing at the bias. He blasts the Russian narrative by quoting a Stanford study. He calls it fake news because it didn't tip the general election. It doesn't fucking matter what happened in the general election. They could of run Jeb Bush against Clinton and he would of won. The Russians tipped the republican primaries. The Republicans had to pick Trump as the nominee because the Trump campaign was able to bypass the MSM through internet memes that were spearheaded by Russians and would make his supporters revolt.

nikcers
09-19-2017, 08:04 PM
Rand Paul even called the race from the get go, there was a Rand Paul interview with the MSM before they kicked him out of the presidential race that said basically since Clinton had a criminal record she couldn't win, and he was asking for people to send him Clinton secrets and he was so sure about the presidential race being anyone but Clinton because she was guilty because someone was coming out with a book about it.

Danke
09-19-2017, 08:08 PM
Donated. Thanks for posting . Our Democrat shills won't like this though...

Raginfridus
09-19-2017, 08:26 PM
And by scripting the Voice of Gawd himself to tell us "we're at war, now deal with it," we're supposed to accept and welcome the actual war before we're actually attacked?

Fuck you, Morgan Freeman.

Swordsmyth
09-19-2017, 08:33 PM
Oh my god, I like watching these videos you guys post but I can normally only go a minute in before cringing at the bias. He blasts the Russian narrative by quoting a Stanford study. He calls it fake news because it didn't tip the general election. It doesn't $#@!ing matter what happened in the general election. They could of run Jeb Bush against Clinton and he would of won. The Russians tipped the republican primaries. The Republicans had to pick Trump as the nominee because the Trump campaign was able to bypass the MSM through internet memes that were spearheaded by Russians and would make his supporters revolt.

You are insane.

nikcers
09-19-2017, 08:38 PM
You are insane.
No I'm not, if you think Russia doesn't cyber you don't know cyber. Maybe Trump can get Bill Gates here to explain cyber to you.

Swordsmyth
09-19-2017, 08:52 PM
No I'm not, if you think Russia doesn't cyber you don't know cyber. Maybe Trump can get Bill Gates here to explain cyber to you.

They did not "Hack" the primaries, IF they exerted any influence it would have been a tiny murmur drowned out by the roar of American free speech and all the other groups foreign and domestic seeking to influence the voters.

Just give up the Russophobia already, Hitlery and the DNC threw the election when they cheated Bernie.

I'm no Putin-hugger but provoking Russia over this laughable drivel is insane and suicidal.

nikcers
09-19-2017, 08:55 PM
They did not "Hack" the primaries, IF they exerted any influence it would have been a tiny murmur drowned out by the roar of American free speech and all the other groups foreign and domestic seeking to influence the voters.

Just give up the Russophobia already, Hitlery and the DNC threw the election when they cheated Bernie.

I'm no Putin-hugger but provoking Russia over this laughable drivel is insane and suicidal.
I am not saying to provoke Russia over it, I have run enough networks to see the Russian attacks against foreign institutions. They even went after the jehovas witness's. We should be informed about politics, and who is involved, and not scream partisan politics when we don't have two parties. If we had two parties I would scream up and down with happiness. This is a false two party system and you are perpetuating the false narrative.

Swordsmyth
09-19-2017, 08:58 PM
I am not saying to provoke Russia over it, I have run enough networks to see the Russian attacks against foreign institutions. They even went after the jehovas witness's. We should be informed about politics, and who is involved, and not scream partisan politics when we don't have two parties. If we had two parties I would scream up and down with happiness. This is a false two party system and you are perpetuating the false narrative.

"RUSSIA STOLE THE ELECTION AND TRUMP IS ON PUTIN'S PAYROLL" is the false narrative brought to you by the MSM.

nikcers
09-19-2017, 09:02 PM
"RUSSIA STOLE THE ELECTION AND TRUMP IS ON PUTIN'S PAYROLL" is the false narrative brought to you by the MSM.
Right- and screaming fake news and saying that Russia has nothing to do with manipulating elections in foreign governments is like saying America has nothing to do with manipulating elections in foreign governments. Its nothing to end the world over but we should talk about how they effect things. If they had no effect on the election they wouldn't waste their money on affecting it.

Swordsmyth
09-19-2017, 09:09 PM
Right- and screaming fake news and saying that Russia has nothing to do with manipulating elections in foreign governments is like saying America has nothing to do with manipulating elections in foreign governments. Its nothing to end the world over but we should talk about how they effect things. If they had no effect on the election they wouldn't waste their money on affecting it.

Many people spend money trying to have an effect on elections without success (like Ron Paul's supporters), the Russians had no more success in this election than they ever did before, it is a non issue ginned up to de-legitimise Trump and any right wing policy he implements.

Raginfridus
09-19-2017, 09:15 PM
First abolish the Parties for manipulating our elections.

Swordsmyth
09-19-2017, 09:17 PM
First abolish the Parties for manipulating our elections.

No just end the laws favoring "Major" parties and introduce prioritized instant run-off voting.

Freedom of association is vital.

nikcers
09-19-2017, 09:34 PM
Many people spend money trying to have an effect on elections without success (like Ron Paul's supporters), the Russians had no more success in this election than they ever did before, it is a non issue ginned up to de-legitimise Trump and any right wing policy he implements.
Depends on what you define success as. Did we bring libertarian policies to mainstream republicans by nominating a president? Did we get to define and argue for non aggression on the political stage and have our voices heard? I don't think you can define the Ron Paul movement, its not over.

Raginfridus
09-19-2017, 10:00 PM
No just end the laws favoring "Major" parties and introduce prioritized instant run-off voting.

Freedom of association is vital.There's nothing free about associating with political parties. Somehow or another, every body pays their due.

Swordsmyth
09-19-2017, 10:04 PM
There's nothing free about associating with political parties. Somehow or another, every body pays their due.

You are free to do it or not do it, if you outlaw them you will not be free to associate with them.

Raginfridus
09-19-2017, 10:09 PM
You are free to do it or not do it, if you outlaw them you will not be free to associate with them.People freely associate without the Party System. With it, they're indentured to the Parties, and we'll end up with two or one no matter the regulations. No, abolish them.

Swordsmyth
09-19-2017, 10:13 PM
People freely associate without the Party System. With it, they're indentured to the Parties, and we'll end up with two or one no matter the regulations. No, abolish them.
Prioritized instant run-off voting will end the "lesser of two evils" trap, if you ban parties only the elites will be organized enough to elect candidates to office.

More freedom is the answer not less.

Raginfridus
09-19-2017, 10:35 PM
Prioritized instant run-off voting will end the "lesser of two evils" trap, if you ban parties only the elites will be organized enough to elect candidates to office.No no: the Party (Boss) System - abolish it. We will organize and associate just fine without their organized apparatus. There's nothing wrong with IRV, but it means nothing if the Party System is still in place. At best, people will still vote for the Devils They Know. At worst, you'll end up with a multiplicity of parties controlled by the same caucuses of special intrigues as the two we've got now.


More freedom is the answer not less.qft so Abolish the Party System, and watch their leverage in the Congress evaporate. This isn't a freedom of association issue, its a cut out the rot issue.

Swordsmyth
09-19-2017, 10:44 PM
No no: the Party (Boss) System - abolish it. We will organize and associate just fine without their organized apparatus. There's nothing wrong with IRV, but it means nothing if the Party System is still in place. At best, people will still vote for the Devils They Know. At worst, you'll end up with a multiplicity of parties controlled by the same caucuses of special intrigues as the two we've got now.

qft so Abolish the Party System, and watch their leverage in the Congress evaporate. This isn't a freedom of association issue, its a cut out the rot issue.

If you give government the power to abolish political parties you give them the power to dictate politics and prohibit political speech and association, you will come to regret it.

With instant run off voting people will no longer need to vote for "the lesser of two evils", they can make that their second choice, then they will find out just how electable Libertarian or Constitution party candidates are, even with the current "Major" party bias of the law 3rd parties would quickly qualify, if the voters still elect scum then nothing will help.

Danke
09-19-2017, 10:49 PM
I wouldn't even let Morgan such my cock.

oyarde
09-19-2017, 10:53 PM
I wouldn't even let Morgan such my cock.

I find that comforting .

Brian4Liberty
09-19-2017, 11:47 PM
Right- and screaming fake news and saying that Russia has nothing to do with manipulating elections in foreign governments is like saying America has nothing to do with manipulating elections in foreign governments. Its nothing to end the world over but we should talk about how they effect things. If they had no effect on the election they wouldn't waste their money on affecting it.

So all that the never Trump neocons and Democrats want out of this year of Russia obsession is to "talk" about it? Nothing more?

Well glad that's over then. Since foreign interference in US elections is a concern, which other nation should we spend the next year "talking" about? Should we prioritize?

nikcers
09-19-2017, 11:56 PM
So all that the never Trump neocons and Democrats want out of this year of Russia obsession is to "talk" about it? Nothing more?

Well glad that's over then. Since foreign interference in US elections is a concern, which other nation should we spend the next year "talking" about? Should we prioritize?

enemies domestic and abroad.

Brian4Liberty
09-20-2017, 12:01 AM
enemies domestic and abroad.

Ah, so this isn't about influencing elections, it's about "enemies"?

Swordsmyth
09-20-2017, 12:02 AM
enemies domestic and abroad.

How about we start with this one:

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.independent.co.uk%2Fs3fs-public%2Fstyles%2Farticle_small%2Fpublic%2Fthumbna ils%2Fimage%2F2016%2F11%2F17%2F22%2Fhillary-clinton.jpg&f=1


She is domestic and a broad.

anaconda
09-20-2017, 01:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AfNO4JDSqA

anaconda
09-20-2017, 01:33 AM
More Morgan Freeman impression:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb0bgSOO8PM

nikcers
09-20-2017, 08:38 AM
Ah, so this isn't about influencing elections, it's about "enemies"?
Aren't enemies of liberty pushing neocon policy in the whitehouse? Aren't enemies of liberty supporting campaigns against us? Yes this is about recognizing a political enemy. You have to recognize that the MSM influence went away and the internet has more influence over informing people in political campaigns. If they are going to run political campaigns against us, whether its under the employ of the democrat party or not we need to counter those talking points and get the message of liberty out. Instead we had some Ron Paul supporters listening to the Russian narrative and not the "liberty" narrative. That's why we didn't get the Ron Paul vote in Iowa and had to drop out.

Madison320
09-20-2017, 09:45 AM
First off, the only reason they made the video is because the democrats lost. Second, as long as the Russians aren't hacking into the actual voting machines, who cares? As long as you are only trying to influence the voters and not the actuals votes that they cast, what's the problem?

nikcers
09-20-2017, 09:53 AM
First off, the only reason they made the video is because the democrats lost. Second, as long as the Russians aren't hacking into the actual voting machines, who cares? As long as you are only trying to influence the voters and not the actuals votes that they cast, what's the problem?
Well when we let them into our political campaigns they distort the message. Some people think that this is a war over philosophy and ideas.

Madison320
09-20-2017, 10:08 AM
Well when we let them into our political campaigns they distort the message. Some people think that this is a war over philosophy and ideas.

I don't see how you can stop that without some serious limits on freedom of speech. I'd rather have free speech and live with the results.

Brian4Liberty
09-20-2017, 10:09 AM
Aren't enemies of liberty pushing neocon policy in the whitehouse? Aren't enemies of liberty supporting campaigns against us? Yes this is about recognizing a political enemy. You have to recognize that the MSM influence went away and the internet has more influence over informing people in political campaigns. If they are going to run political campaigns against us, whether its under the employ of the democrat party or not we need to counter those talking points and get the message of liberty out. Instead we had some Ron Paul supporters listening to the Russian narrative and not the "liberty" narrative. That's why we didn't get the Ron Paul vote in Iowa and had to drop out.

There is a basic principle that it is not good to allow foreign interests, friend or foe, to interfere in a nations elections. By definition, they have their foreign interests in mind, not the best interests of the nation they are trying to influence.

This is the excuse and the outrage that the left (and neocons) pretended to be concerned about. Some people are truly concerned about the essential issue of foreign interference, they are not.

If this is just about identifying "enemies", then John McCain, Bill Kristol and their friends will be more than happy to give you a list of their boogie men. At that point, there is no bright defining line or principle to follow. It's about paranoid delusions and MIC profiteering determining the actions of the nation, which is essentially what we have today.

When they talk about how terrible "foreign interference" is in US elections, it's nothing but an excuse to manipulate those who might really have a concern about that basic principle.

Raginfridus
09-20-2017, 10:12 AM
Let's ban AIPAC first.

We're such hypocrites. We've been publicly manipulating elections and backing coup d'etat in foreign nations for at least 80 years. Hell, we and about a dozen other countries invaded Russia to halt the Marxists and force signature of Brest-Litovsk.

nikcers
09-20-2017, 10:20 AM
There is a basic principle that it is not good to allow foreign interests, friend or foe, to interfere in a nations elections. By definition, they have their foreign interests in mind, not the best interests of the nation they are trying to influence.

This is the excuse and the outrage that the left (and neocons) pretended to be concerned about. Some people are truly concerned about the essential issue of foreign interference, they are not.

If this is just about identifying "enemies", then John McCain, Bill Kristol and their friends will be more than happy to give you a list of their boogie men. At that point, there is no bright defining line or principle to follow. It's about paranoid delusions and MIC profiteering determining the actions of the nation, which is essentially what we have today.

When they talk about how terrible "foreign interference" is in US elections, it's nothing but an excuse to manipulate those who might really have a concern about that basic principle.

I'm more concerned about political messaging and liberty. We still have too many people demanding more socialism and more government intervention. These ideas are far more dangerous then any shitty frog memes. I am concerned about influence of American political philosophy.

Brian4Liberty
09-20-2017, 10:21 AM
Instead we had some Ron Paul supporters listening to the Russian narrative and not the "liberty" narrative. That's why we didn't get the Ron Paul vote in Iowa and had to drop out.

Completely disagree. "Russian narrative" had nothing to do with it. US based leftist, neocon and teocon propaganda had more to do with it, along with the freight train of a reality TV blow hard that also accurately judged the mood of the electorate and plowed over everyone.

Trump stole the paleocons, paleolibertarians and anti-globalists. Cruz stole the beltway libertarians and teocons, leaving Rand with less votes than Ron.

nikcers
09-20-2017, 10:33 AM
Completely disagree. "Russian narrative" had nothing to do with it. US based leftist, neocon and teocon propaganda had more to do with it, along with the freight train of a reality TV blow hard that also accurately judged the mood of the electorate and plowed over everyone.

Trump stole the paleocons, paleolibertarians and anti-globalists. Cruz stole the beltway libertarians and teocons, leaving Rand with less votes than Ron.
I disagree I think that's the fake news narrative.

Raginfridus
09-20-2017, 10:39 AM
We still have too many people demanding more socialism and more government intervention.You mean like the NatSocs of AIPAC (https://anticorruptionsociety.com/tag/aipac/)?
I am concerned about influence of our ideas.So don't imbibe the ideas you don't like. Short of Russia buying votes (And USSR/Russia have done this) or stuffing the ballot-box, rabid populism, propaganda, and soap-boxing voters to the ballots are democratic stigmata - they're signs the Republic is no more representative of the people than an orgiastic, mob rule of idiocy. USG should have no further, formal authority regulating where ideas originate, or which ideas sweep the nation and when. We don't need to surrender that liberty in total, "freedom of information" has already been pinched by the censors and lame-brain media tools. Short of total censorship, how can the State prevent foreign manipulations? It cannot.

nikcers
09-20-2017, 10:47 AM
how can the State prevent foreign manipulations? It cannot.
I don't think you understand, I just think that sometimes in a political argument you lose sight of context of our political goals of spreading good information. We should be enemies of people who spread disinformation whether the democrat party paid them to do it or not.You shouldn't be able to pay a foreign sacred cow like Israel or Russia or influence our election and then get mad at people that say we should argue against bad ideas, and not let the bad ideas win. I am talking about us exercising our 1st amendment and defending and demanding more liberty because the leftist wont they will pay foreign governments to trick us into surrendering our votes.

Brian4Liberty
09-20-2017, 11:01 AM
I disagree I think that's the fake news narrative.

That's funny, because never once have I seen that analysis come from the media.

The Russia hysteria is the fake news narrative. Even the media and leftist establishment has given up on that.

nikcers
09-20-2017, 11:05 AM
That's funny, because never once have I seen that analysis come from the media.

The Russia hysteria is the fake news narrative. Even the media and leftist establishment has given up on that.
Maybe there is more the one way to sell something just like fast food sells heart disease. What were the polls for the republican primaries like before Trumps paper tiger campaign became "legitimate" because of his online troll army? What would the Republican debates look like without Trump in there? I'll tell you what.

RJB
09-20-2017, 11:13 AM
Maybe there is more the one way to sell something just like fast food sells heart disease. What were the polls for the republican primaries like before Trumps paper tiger campaign became "legitimate" because of his online troll army? What would the Republican debates look like without Trump in there? I'll tell you what.

Please do tell us what. None of what you posted proves any Russian involvement. Trump joining the race doesn't prove it nor does an army of trolls.

nikcers
09-20-2017, 11:15 AM
Please do tell us what. None of what you posted proves any Russian involvement. Trump joining the race doesn't prove it nor does an army of trolls.
Yay someone who wants you to prove your point with an inappropriate and impossible amount of proof has appeared

RJB
09-20-2017, 11:21 AM
Yay someone who wants you to prove your point with an inappropriate and impossible amount of proof has appeared
It amazes me when someone claims there is a mountain of proof, yet they can't produce any. Instead they hide behind a mocking tone and claim there is a mountain of it.
It's been a very circular debate for the last year.

nikcers
09-20-2017, 11:24 AM
It amazes me when someone claims there is a mountain of proof, yet they can't produce any. Instead they hide behind a mocking tone and claim there is a mountain of it.
It's been a very circular debate for the last year.
What argument are you wanting me to prove I argued a lot-TLDR Clinton won the election and the Russians were involved

RJB
09-20-2017, 11:28 AM
What argument are you wanting me to prove I argued a lot-TLDR Clinton won the election and the Russians were involved

Ah, I see, a mountain of evidence.

nikcers
09-20-2017, 11:30 AM
Ah, I see, a mountain of evidence.
Ah I see you don't want to argue against me just your straw man.

RJB
09-20-2017, 11:32 AM
Ah I see you don't want to argue against me just your straw man.

And there is the mocking tone, yet again devoid of evidence.

nikcers
09-20-2017, 11:33 AM
And there is the mocking tone, yet again devoid of evidence.
What evidence do you want, how many schmeckels how many buschels, define your argument don't make ambiguous straw man arguments and pretend to be taken seriously.

Brian4Liberty
09-20-2017, 11:36 AM
Maybe there is more the one way to sell something just like fast food sells heart disease. What were the polls for the republican primaries like before Trumps paper tiger campaign became "legitimate" because of his online troll army? What would the Republican debates look like without Trump in there? I'll tell you what.

Online troll army? Ah, you are upset about Hillary. There are trolls around, no doubt about that...

nikcers
09-20-2017, 11:39 AM
Online troll army? Ah, you are upset about Hillary. There are trolls around, no doubt about that...
No I am upset that the political movement i put my time and energy into failed because we failed to define and defend it. This should be Ron Paul's second term.

Brian4Liberty
09-20-2017, 11:43 AM
No I am upset that the political movement i put my time and energy into failed because we failed to define and defend it. This should be Ron Paul's second term.

Because Russians...

RJB
09-20-2017, 11:46 AM
What evidence do you want, how many schmeckels how many buschels, define your argument don't make ambiguous straw man arguments and pretend to be taken seriously.
You mentioned army of trolls. There is not evidence that Russia was behind them. Nor would Russia have to back an army of trolls, Americans are pretty good at trolling already as is in evidence on this forum.

Trump entering and winning in itself is not evidence.

Wiki leaks has so far been the closest thing that I have seen but there is no evidence Russia was behind that.

This whole Russia silliness seems to have erupted because the major establishment candidates wanted a major confrontation with Russia. (My speculation. I have no proof but neither do you. So we have this friendly discussion.). Hopefully with Trump (despite his many flaws) we have a four year reprieve from a confrontation.

Brian4Liberty
09-20-2017, 11:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AfNO4JDSqA

Wow. That is perfect!

And it's a given that most the radical left would applaud that speech. No one cares about content, it's about who is doing the speaking.

nikcers
09-20-2017, 11:51 AM
Because Russians...
Dont tell me what my argument is that's not what my argument was at all you dick.

RJB
09-20-2017, 11:54 AM
Dont tell me what my argument is that's not what my argument was at all you dick.
I am not being a smartass when I say this, but I thought that is what your argument was all about. I must have misunderstood you.

nikcers
09-20-2017, 11:58 AM
I am not being a smartass when I say this, but I thought that is what your argument was all about.
Well you can argue that was my intent all along but it wasn't, my intent was that our enemy was disinformation and it it comes from everywhere including Russia. You can't say that disinformation has no affect on the election, because that by proxy is the argument you are making.

RJB
09-20-2017, 12:10 PM
Well you can argue that was my intent all along but it wasn't, my intent was that our enemy was disinformation and it it comes from everywhere including Russia. You can't say that disinformation has no affect on the election, because that by proxy is the argument you are making.
OK. I can agree with that.

However, where we disagree is that the narrative of Russians hacking the election is part of the disinfo campaign, IMO, unless Russia runs CNN, MSNBC, FOX, etc.

Swordsmyth
09-20-2017, 12:15 PM
Dont tell me what my argument is that's not what my argument was at all you dick.
...

Oh my god, I like watching these videos you guys post but I can normally only go a minute in before cringing at the bias. He blasts the Russian narrative by quoting a Stanford study. He calls it fake news because it didn't tip the general election. It doesn't $#@!ing matter what happened in the general election. They could of run Jeb Bush against Clinton and he would of won. The Russians tipped the republican primaries. The Republicans had to pick Trump as the nominee because the Trump campaign was able to bypass the MSM through internet memes that were spearheaded by Russians and would make his supporters revolt.

goldenequity
09-20-2017, 07:17 PM
moar pollywood



Actor Rob Reiner Launches Committee to Investigate Russia
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/09/19/actor-rob-reiner-launches-committee-investigate-russia/

http://media.breitbart.com/media/2017/07/ParanoidReiner-640x480.jpg

Hollywood actor-director Rob Reiner teamed with
►Atlantic senior editor David Frum,
►Obama-era government officials,
►and vocal Donald Trump critics

to launch an initiative Tuesday intended to help uncover the extent of Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election.

“To understand the gravity of Russia’s invasion of our democracy, today we launch Committee to Investigate Russia,”
Reiner wrote on Twitter Tuesday morning, linking to the organization’s website: InvestigateRussia.org.

The Committee claims to be "a nonprofit, non-partisan resource:) provided
to help Americans recognize and understand the gravity of Russia’s continuing attacks on our democracy,”


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Dark_Horse_Rider
09-20-2017, 08:40 PM
Great. . . these pieces of shit cant force people to watch the garbage they are making in FollyWood, so they turn to the state for work. . .

fucking pathetic.

Fuck You Hollywood

Raginfridus
09-20-2017, 09:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rskgdocjuuE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJaQfiKVy54

Swordsmyth
09-20-2017, 09:05 PM
moar pollywood



Actor Rob Reiner Launches Committee to Investigate Russia
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/09/19/actor-rob-reiner-launches-committee-investigate-russia/

http://media.breitbart.com/media/2017/07/ParanoidReiner-640x480.jpg

Hollywood actor-director Rob Reiner teamed with
►Atlantic senior editor David Frum,
►Obama-era government officials,
►and vocal Donald Trump critics

to launch an initiative Tuesday intended to help uncover the extent of Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election.

“To understand the gravity of Russia’s invasion of our democracy, today we launch Committee to Investigate Russia,”
Reiner wrote on Twitter Tuesday morning, linking to the organization’s website: InvestigateRussia.org.

The Committee claims to be "a nonprofit, non-partisan resource:) provided
to help Americans recognize and understand the gravity of Russia’s continuing attacks on our democracy,”


910092054042234882


HOLLYWOOD becomes HUAC, have they no sense of irony?

Raginfridus
09-20-2017, 09:25 PM
The irony is w/o Hollywood (Harry Cohn, et al.), there might not have been a HUAC.

They should love Trump.

donnay
09-20-2017, 10:10 PM
moar pollywood



Actor Rob Reiner Launches Committee to Investigate Russia
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/09/19/actor-rob-reiner-launches-committee-investigate-russia/

http://media.breitbart.com/media/2017/07/ParanoidReiner-640x480.jpg

Hollywood actor-director Rob Reiner teamed with
►Atlantic senior editor David Frum,
►Obama-era government officials,
►and vocal Donald Trump critics

to launch an initiative Tuesday intended to help uncover the extent of Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election.

“To understand the gravity of Russia’s invasion of our democracy, today we launch Committee to Investigate Russia,”
Reiner wrote on Twitter Tuesday morning, linking to the organization’s website: InvestigateRussia.org.

The Committee claims to be "a nonprofit, non-partisan resource:) provided
to help Americans recognize and understand the gravity of Russia’s continuing attacks on our democracy,”


910092054042234882

What a meathead.

goldenequity
09-20-2017, 10:30 PM
What a meathead.

Just so it's clear... meathead's 'Committee' produced the Morgan Freeman video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMAAwykuIOA




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Raginfridus
09-20-2017, 11:53 PM
910175001323737089



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anaconda
09-21-2017, 12:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMAAwykuIOA


Morgan Freeman should be utterly ashamed of himself. They must be holding an IRS audit over his head or have compromising photos of him.

anaconda
09-21-2017, 12:58 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNjSJN7V9QM

AZJoe
09-21-2017, 07:04 AM
Just so it's clear... meathead's 'Committee' produced the Morgan Freeman video. ...

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Max Boot, James Clapper, Norman Ornstein aka Neocons on parade. OMG what a joke.

The Ron Paul Institute sums it up succinctly:
"What happens when Hollywood Hillary-supporters join up with spooks and neocons to make propaganda? The "Committee to Investigate Russia" is born and it trots out washed up old Morgan Freeman to blabber on about how the US has been attacked by Russia and we are at war! Will this crude, McCarthyite propaganda stick? Or will Americans laugh at the foolishness of out-of-touch celebrities joining together with the likes of David "Axis of Evil" Frum and Max "let's have a war now" Boot?"

AZJoe
09-21-2017, 07:28 AM
More from the Ron Paul Institute (http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/neocon-watch/2017/september/20/spies-hollywood-and-neocons-team-up-to-create-new-war-propaganda-firm/):

The Committee to Investigate Russia, an organization founded by When Harry Met Sally director Rob Reiner and neoconservative senior editor of The Atlantic David Frum. The video, which stars Morgan Freeman and is rife with patriotic images of American flags, soldiers and bald eagles, ...

Firstly, the establishment narrative that Russia used cyber warfare to hand the election to Donald Trump remains wholly unsubstantiated (https://hackernoon.com/the-big-fat-compendium-of-russiagate-debunkery-4278a753a3af) and riddled with gaping plot holes (https://nef4rhc.wordpress.com/) that the US intelligence community has yet to address (https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/pundits-and-politicians-are-tacitly-admitting-that-they-lied-about-russia-4b1db7c8c63d); there is currently no publicly available evidence whatsoever that the Russian government did what Morgan Freeman tells us it did, let alone that Donald Trump was involved in it. The Russian hacking narrative is getting flimsier by the day, with the assertion that WikiLeaks is a Kremlin proxy being sorely weakened just today by a new leak drop (https://wikileaks.org/spyfiles/russia/) on Russian surveillance activities, which itself comes on the back of an extensive amount (https://contraspin.co.nz/in-plain-sight-why-wikileaks-is-clearly-not-in-bed-with-russia/) of critical Russia-related leaks that the transparency organization had already published.

Establishment loyalists only believe the Russian government hacked the Democratic party and gave its emails to WikiLeaks because pundits, politicians and celebrities have been saying this happened ...

Secondly, the assertion that America is currently at war with Russia is horrifying, ... disgusting propaganda ... The evidence-free assertion that America has “been attacked” is plainly geared to elicit a fear response from the video’s intended audience and manufacture support for counter-attacks and/or dangerous new cold war escalations.

Third, a blatant war psy-op advanced by Bush-era neocons bitching about the Russian government using propaganda is hilarious.

Fourth, the notion that “the free world is counting” on the US for leadership is moronic flag-waving, chest-pounding B.S. ... the free world is not counting on any such thing.... Most US military aggression since the end of the Cold War can be seen as a nonstop global disruption campaign to prevent the rise of another rival superpower like the Soviet Union, and the neocons have been responsible for spearheading this initiative (https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/obama-urged-trump-to-continue-neoconservative-foreign-policy-417e1a1f66d2).

David Frum, author (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/mar/18/david-frum-iraq-war-oil) of President George W. Bush’s infamous “Axis of Evil” talking point, is a notorious neoconservative who has been pushing for war (https://theoutline.com/post/2079/things-are-bad-and-david-frum-makes-them-worse) at every opportunity for nearly two decades. He is an unforgivable bloodthirsty psychopath, and everything he touches is cancer.

In addition to Reiner — a virulent #Resistance Clintonist and Russiagate conspiracy theorist — Frum’s advisory board (https://investigaterussia.org/advisory-board) for his new Committee to Start World War Three includes PNAC signatory (http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/Boot_Max/) Max Boot, who has relentlessly pushed for increased US military aggression throughout his entire career, and who once called in plain English for America to “unambiguously to embrace its imperial role.”

There’s also former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, who has on more than one occasion (https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/us-anti-russia-sentiment-is-built-on-racism-xenophobia-homophobia-and-demagoguery-b1ebef57ddb6) voiced blatantly racist opinions about the nefarious genetic predispositions of the entire population of Russia. This eugenicist bigot’s handful of hand-picked analysts (https://consortiumnews.com/2017/05/23/new-cracks-in-russia-gate-assessment/) were behind the conclusions drawn in the intelligence community’s official statements ... forming both (A) the basis for the false narrative that there is unanimous consensus ... and (B) the foundation for the entire Russiagate conspiracy theory.

Also on the advisory board are Norman Ornstein of the neocon think tank (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Enterprise_Institute#Political_stance_and _impact) American Enterprise Institute and conservative never-Trump pundit Charlie Sykes, ...

As viscerally disturbing as it is to see the actor who played God conducting a brazen psy-op on the American people, it is already a well-documented fact (https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/exclusive-documents-expose-direct-us-military-intelligence-influence-on-1-800-movies-and-tv-shows-36433107c307) that the CIA, the NSA and the Pentagon have been balls deep in Hollywood for decades. They’re just being more blatant about that collaboration now.

As Noam Chomsky puts it: Control of thought is more important for governments that are free and popular than for despotic and military states. The logic is straightforward: a despotic state can control its domestic enemies by force, but as the state loses this weapon, other devices are required to prevent the ignorant masses from interfering with public affairs, which are none of their business…the public are to be observers, not participants, consumers of ideology as well as products. Don’t let them control your mind. Fight the propaganda machine (https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/how-to-fight-the-establishment-propaganda-machine-and-win-449f94e1d40b), disrupt their craven agendas, and wake up the others.


Original at Medium (https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/spies-hollywood-and-neocons-team-up-to-create-new-war-propaganda-firm-f857201743d3)

AZJoe
09-21-2017, 07:39 AM
Morgan Freeman: 'We Are At War With Russia' (Pollywood)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cjrZZyxowo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CHwJ6InH2E

goldenequity
09-21-2017, 07:44 AM
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to AZJoe again. :)

AZJoe
09-21-2017, 07:51 AM
Morgan Freeman should be utterly ashamed of himself. They must be holding an IRS audit over his head or have compromising photos of him.


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acptulsa
09-21-2017, 07:53 AM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/39/Russians_are_coming.jpg

Back when it was serious, Carl Reiner made a joke on it. A good one, too (if you haven't seen it, do--just don't take it as seriously as his nineteen year old meathead son seems to have done).

Now it's a joke, and his son is trying to make it serious. After spending fifty years trying to convince the world what a fine liberal he is, he's helping neocons who are trying to make this joke serious.

Carl Reiner, I enjoyed your work. But you should have spent more time at home with your son. Whoever did raise him went terribly astray somewhere down the line.

https://subtletv.com/baacSyk/Emergency_everybody_to_get_from_street

AZJoe
09-21-2017, 08:08 AM
From the good ZeroHedge (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-20/we-are-war-morgan-freeman-face-new-committee-investigate-russia?page=2)

"The hysteria continues, and this time Hollywood has been enlisted. No this is not The Onion, but yet another serious committee for serious people. Meet the "Committee to Investigate Russia" (https://twitter.com/InvestigateRU) which launched on Tuesday and immediately garnered broad coverage in pop-culture and entertainment news sites for its release of a short Morgan Freeman narrated video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz9PNoecNxU) ... “We have been attacked,” Freeman says in his familiarly reassuring voice while gazing into the camera. “We are at war.” ...

Not only did the video burn up social media on Tuesday, but the founders of the lobbying group behind the production, barely one day old, were given substantial air time on cable news from CNN to MSNBC. ... actor, director, and lifelong Democrat Rob Reiner is behind it - he's teamed up with neocons David Frum, Max Boot, and national security insiders like James Clapper.

Similar to other recently launched 'Russiagate' campaigns and organizations we've profiled (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-08/its-barack-obama-marries-dick-cheney-all-one-think-tank), the initiative is enjoying fawning mainstream media coverage from the very start. ... the historical irony is completely lost on Hollywood, a town which itself fell victim to the original McCarthyite witch hunt and its celebrity 'blacklist'. ...

the "Committee to Investigate Russia" is designed to appeal especially to the popular masses and consumers of pop media ... . For example, ... entertainment news site PopSugar (https://www.popsugar.com/news/What-Committee-Investigate-Russia-44044079) reads like the "famed" Max Boot himself is on a hollywoodesque mission to save the world from an 'EVIL' cabal bent on total world domination ...

This of course translates to "well we know there's a lot of smoke and no answers, umm... evidence" - but hey, Morgan Freeman's noble and venerable wisdom-from-the-heavens-sounding voice will make it all true. Reiner told the Daily Beast (http://www.thedailybeast.com/rob-reiner-and-morgan-freeman-declare-war-on-russia) that Morgan Freeman was chosen as spokesman due to the “weight and gravitas” of his voice. ...

While the public has been assured the committee is stacked with bipartisan experts, it would help if there were any actual... Russian experts. ... the advisory board is made up of the following "experts" (in their respective order):


a neocon blogger
a perjurer
wonk with no Russia background
the director of When Harry Met Sally
right-wing talk radio guy

Ender
09-21-2017, 08:31 AM
From the good ZeroHedge (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-20/we-are-war-morgan-freeman-face-new-committee-investigate-russia?page=2)

"The hysteria continues, and this time Hollywood has been enlisted. No this is not The Onion, but yet another serious committee for serious people. Meet the "Committee to Investigate Russia" (https://twitter.com/InvestigateRU) which launched on Tuesday and immediately garnered broad coverage in pop-culture and entertainment news sites for its release of a short Morgan Freeman narrated video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz9PNoecNxU) ... “We have been attacked,” Freeman says in his familiarly reassuring voice while gazing into the camera. “We are at war.” ...

Not only did the video burn up social media on Tuesday, but the founders of the lobbying group behind the production, barely one day old, were given substantial air time on cable news from CNN to MSNBC. ... actor, director, and lifelong Democrat Rob Reiner is behind it - he's teamed up with neocons David Frum, Max Boot, and national security insiders like James Clapper.

Similar to other recently launched 'Russiagate' campaigns and organizations we've profiled (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-08/its-barack-obama-marries-dick-cheney-all-one-think-tank), the initiative is enjoying fawning mainstream media coverage from the very start. ... the historical irony is completely lost on Hollywood, a town which itself fell victim to the original McCarthyite witch hunt and its celebrity 'blacklist'. ...

the "Committee to Investigate Russia" is designed to appeal especially to the popular masses and consumers of pop media ... . For example, ... entertainment news site PopSugar (https://www.popsugar.com/news/What-Committee-Investigate-Russia-44044079) reads like the "famed" Max Boot himself is on a hollywoodesque mission to save the world from an 'EVIL' cabal bent on total world domination ...

This of course translates to "well we know there's a lot of smoke and no answers, umm... evidence" - but hey, Morgan Freeman's noble and venerable wisdom-from-the-heavens-sounding voice will make it all true. Reiner told the Daily Beast (http://www.thedailybeast.com/rob-reiner-and-morgan-freeman-declare-war-on-russia) that Morgan Freeman was chosen as spokesman due to the “weight and gravitas” of his voice. ...

While the public has been assured the committee is stacked with bipartisan experts, it would help if there were any actual... Russian experts. ... the advisory board is made up of the following "experts" (in their respective order):


a neocon blogger
a perjurer
wonk with no Russia background
the director of When Harry Met Sally
right-wing talk radio guy


My take on this is:

GOOD.

Maybe a few will wake up from this "investigation" and maybe others will start investigating on their own and find out some real truth on .gov and the alphabets. I know y'all hate Hollywood, but something like this, that gets major media attention, can wake others up to lies and absurdities, as well.

Also cracks me up that they use When Harry Met Sally to describe Reiner, when he has directed the most quoted film in the history of Hollywood: The Princess Bride.

JMHPOV

shakey1
09-21-2017, 11:57 AM
Freeman should go back to peddling insurance.:cool:

Raginfridus
09-21-2017, 01:24 PM
Yeah, no shit. When you find yourself on the same side as the NeoCons, liberal establishment, and an American Express mouthpiece, then you know you aren't in revolt.

Brian4Liberty
09-21-2017, 02:01 PM
What's that? The Obama Adminstration was illegally spying on the Trump campaign? Never mind that "rumor", it's time to double down on Russia!

Zuckerberg, Hollywood and the entire mainstream media are all hands on deck today!

Russia! Russia! Russia! zOMG!!1! Russia!

Brian4Liberty
09-21-2017, 02:13 PM
...The Russians tipped the republican primaries. The Republicans had to pick Trump as the nominee because the Trump campaign was able to bypass the MSM through internet memes that were spearheaded by Russians and would make his supporters revolt.


...Instead we had some Ron Paul supporters listening to the Russian narrative and not the "liberty" narrative. That's why we didn't get the Ron Paul vote in Iowa and had to drop out.

...


Dont tell me what my argument is that's not what my argument was at all you dick.

acptulsa
09-21-2017, 03:00 PM
Freeman should go back to peddling insurance.:cool:

Worked for Fred Thompson.

RJB
09-21-2017, 03:16 PM
...

I think that last retort was another way of saying that he has no proof to back up his prior accusations.

Raginfridus
09-21-2017, 03:33 PM
If they are going to run political campaigns against us, whether its under the employ of the democrat party or not we need to counter those talking points and get the message of liberty out. Instead we had some Ron Paul supporters listening to the Russian narrative and not the "liberty" narrative. That's why we didn't get the Ron Paul vote in Iowa and had to drop out.That's right, not one step back! Charge into their mess, fight their battles - join or die!

https://i.imgflip.com/1wajjg.jpg

There's no such thing as a Liberty Narrative, nor provost marshals or political commissars, among libertarians.

https://www.coh2.org/uploads/blog_files/2012/10/Politcal-Commissar-poster1.jpg

anaconda
09-21-2017, 03:41 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/1w9igv.jpg

But, Morgan, your "shining example of democracy" kept your brethren in chains and enforced the northern Fugitive Slave Act.

Raginfridus
09-21-2017, 03:49 PM
But, Morgan, your "shining example of democracy" kept your brethren in chains and enforced the northern Fugitive Slave Act.I wouldn't be surprised if came from a long line of profiteering Freemen. Its his business not mine, but sense he's stoking paranoia in the young and dumb, and we know what cynical patriotism leads to, he deserves all the piss people will give him. Not like this old fart or his family will fight if the sanctions and paranoia ever come to a head.

This really is a great plan, btw. Have Trump levy sanctions (economic warfare), while Freeman et al. incite panic and mistrust in every quarter.

anaconda
09-21-2017, 11:44 PM
Freeman should go back to peddling insurance.:cool:

In this situation I would accept back peddling.

Raginfridus
09-22-2017, 01:05 AM
AIPAC are the largest lobbying firm in DC - perhaps the world - and nobody has been voted into office w/o pledging to serve Israel's statehood. Considering this unchecked power of their's alone, before even approaching an investigation, does Israeli decades-old meddling in our sovereignty also warrant an investigation, Mr. Freeman? Is the State of Israel at war with us?

I'd love to have five minutes each to ask these tools and record our dialog. I'm just asking for, what, half an hour tops?

anaconda
09-22-2017, 08:38 PM
nobody has been voted into office w/o pledging to serve Israel's statehood.

Even James Traficant? :)

Rand said during his campaign that the U.S.'s interests would always take precedent over Israel's.

Raginfridus
09-22-2017, 08:41 PM
Touche. I meant the Presidency in particular, but I didn't specify.

anaconda
09-22-2017, 08:53 PM
Touche. I meant the Presidency in particular, but I didn't specify.

Ah, I see. You meant Presidents. In all fairness, Rand did make a B-Line for the wailing wall while adorning a yarmulke.

http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/50eccb776bb3f7cf43000010-900-600/sasson%20tiram%20060113%20005.jpeg

Raginfridus
09-22-2017, 10:14 PM
That's unfortunate. Really goes to show AIPAC's power. You can see him clenching his jaw shut.

Maybe we need to find an atheist or pagan for President? Ragnar Lödbrok 20/20


Secular democracy and Atheism haven't exactly stopped Zionazis in the past, though.

AZJoe
09-24-2017, 09:32 PM
From Strategic Culture (https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2017/09/24/morgan-freeman-joins-propaganda-war-effort.html):

"The director of “When Harry Met Sally” partnered with David Frum, the senior editor of The Atlantic. … historian Max Boot, former director of national intelligence James Clapper, American Enterprise Institute resident scholar Norman Ornstein, and conservative commentator Charles Sykes as members of the advisory board. …

The actor does not mention the airstrikes against former Yugoslavia, the illegal war in Iraq, the intervention in Libya and many other numerous invasions and interventions. No, it’s something else the Freeman’s video address is about – a non-existent attack, which is a figment of the imagination. …

It’s not surprising that the Hollywood stars are used for propaganda purposes with the information war going on. The US government and Hollywood (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/james-wong-howe-hollywood-cinematographer-google-doodle-five-best-films-thin-man-yankee-doodle-dandy-a7916151.html) have always been close. The f (http://www.spyculture.com/)iles, mainly obtained through the US Freedom of Information Act, show (https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/exclusive-documents-expose-direct-us-military-intelligence-influence-on-1-800-movies-and-tv-shows-36433107c307) that between 1911 and 2017, more than 800 feature films received support from the US Department of Defense. The US government involvement also includes (https://www.amazon.com/National-Security-Cinema-Government-Hollywood/dp/1548084980) script rewrites on some of the biggest and most popular films …

According to (http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/hollywood-cia-washington-dc-films-fbi-24-intervening-close-relationship-a7918191.html) the article (http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/hollywood-cia-washington-dc-films-fbi-24-intervening-close-relationship-a7918191.html) written by Mathew Alford, a teaching fellow in propaganda and theory at the University of Bath, published by the Independent, over 1,100 titles on US television received Pentagon backing – 900 of them since 2005… the CIA has assisted in 60 film and television shows since its formation in 1947. …

Morgan Freeman’s video is part of the information war waged by US state agencies against Russia. The actor has become a tool of the US establishment and this is the worst role he has ever played.

AZJoe
09-24-2017, 09:36 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/VV741R_o_jE/hqdefault.jpg

Raginfridus
09-24-2017, 09:44 PM
Fuck his Sgt Stryker ****** ass. He won't bleed.

Anti Globalist
09-24-2017, 09:59 PM
Hilarious. These Hollywood actors can't force people to go to their movies so they have to do propaganda for the government.

Raginfridus
09-24-2017, 10:05 PM
Hilarious. These Hollywood actors can't force people to go to their movies so they have to do propaganda for the government.A24 are making the only movies for hollywood anybody wants to see and actors want to play.

Specifically their Horror/Thriller stuff. Disney can't float the industry forever.

nikcers
09-25-2017, 01:02 AM
A24 are making the only movies for hollywood anybody wants to see and actors want to play.

Specifically their Horror/Thriller stuff. Disney can't float the industry forever.
They never make Westerns anymore either


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1D2ynASqe4

Raginfridus
09-25-2017, 05:05 AM
They never make Westerns anymore either


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1D2ynASqe4We can't have men for heroes thinking for themselves and audiences enjoying themselves. They must be shamed into the struggle, comrade: it's our side... or theirs.

nikcers
09-25-2017, 07:24 AM
We can't have men for heroes thinking for themselves and audiences enjoying themselves. They must be shamed into the struggle, comrade: it's our side... or theirs.

Propaganda that was supposed to target foreigners could now be aimed at Americans (https://www.buzzfeed.com/mhastings/congressmen-seek-to-lift-propaganda-ban)
Posted on May 18, 2012, at 1:27 p.m
Contact Michael Hastings at amy+252855@buzzfeed.com.