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donnay
09-19-2017, 07:43 AM
RFK JR. ISSUES REPORT SHOWING STRONG EVIDENCE OF ONGOING CORRUPTION & SCIENTIFIC FRAUD AT THE CDC

ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR.SEPTEMBER 18, 2017

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE, September 18, 2017
Contact: Lyn Redwood, 202-810-1826, Email

Kennedy hopes new evidence and a fresh look at criminal misconduct will result in law enforcement action, rigorous and transparent vaccine safety science, and safer vaccines.

Washington, DC – In a new report released today, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and his team outlined various criminal acts on the part of employees and consultants for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) whose questionable ethics and scientific fraud have resulted in untrustworthy vaccine safety science.

Among other information, Kennedy has found additional evidence of criminal activity by the CDC consultant, Poul Thorsen, the author and principal coordinator of multiple CDC studies exonerating the mercury-based preservative thimerosal in the development of autism.

The new evidence, recently uncovered by the World Mercury Project, shows that Thorsen and his collaborators did not obtain permission from an Institutional Review Board (IRB) to conduct their research, which was published in the New England Journal of Medicine in 2002 and Pediatrics in 2003. In 2011, The Department of Justice indicted Thorsen on 22 counts of wire fraud and money laundering for stealing over $1 million in CDC grant money earmarked for autism research. The product of Thorsen’s work for CDC was a series of fraud-tainted articles on Danish autism rates that, today, form the backbone of the popular orthodoxy that vaccines don’t cause autism.

In 2009, when CDC discovered that Thorsen never applied for the IRB approvals, staff did not report the errors or retract the studies. Rather, FOIA documents show that CDC supervisors ignored the missteps and covered up the illegal activity.

This misconduct undermines the legitimacy of these studies which were used to refute vaccine injury claims in the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (NVICP). The studies were also used in the NVICP’s “Omnibus Proceeding” to dismiss 5000 petitions by families who claimed that their children had developed autism from vaccines. These claims, if settled in the claimants’ favor, would have resulted in payouts totaling an estimated $10 billion.

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Chairman, stated, “World Mercury Project calls upon Attorney General Jeff Sessions to extradite Thorsen back to the U.S. to face prosecution. We also call upon Secretary of Health and Human Services Dr. Tom Price to retract the Thorsen-affiliated autism research papers that are the fruit of illegally conducted research.”
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2017/09/18/rfk-jr-issues-report-showing-strong-evidence-of-ongoing-corruption-scientific-fraud-at-the-cdc/?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

Weston White
09-19-2017, 09:08 PM
Well, this is certainly wonderful if it is true, so far I only found other sourced info at the following, but these are from 2011-2015:

www.forbes.com/sites/emilywillingham/2015/08/10/hey-interpol-i-found-your-autism-researcher-fugitive/#1007b1a477de
www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/central-figure-in-cdc-vac_b_494303.html

The report seems to backtrack to the World Mercury Project (which has tons of other info available too):

https://worldmercuryproject.org/advocacy-policy/criminal-conduct-poul-thorsen
https://worldmercuryproject.org/wp-content/uploads/world-mercury-project-report-on-poul-thorsen-9-7-17.pdf

donnay
09-19-2017, 09:29 PM
Well, this is certainly wonderful if it is true, so far I only found other sourced info at the following, but these are from 2011-2015:

www.forbes.com/sites/emilywillingham/2015/08/10/hey-interpol-i-found-your-autism-researcher-fugitive/#1007b1a477de
www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/central-figure-in-cdc-vac_b_494303.html

The report seems to backtrack to the World Mercury Project (which has tons of other info available too):

https://worldmercuryproject.org/advocacy-policy/criminal-conduct-poul-thorsen
https://worldmercuryproject.org/wp-content/uploads/world-mercury-project-report-on-poul-thorsen-9-7-17.pdf

Thanks for posting that info!

angelatc
09-19-2017, 11:45 PM
Thanks for posting that info!

Thanks Indeed! The Forbes article is openly mocking the antivaxxers. *snicker*


In spite of the fact that Thorsen appears to be easily located, was an author on a scientific poster at a conference this year, and is living and working in Denmark, a number of high-profile vaccine-autism conspiracy adherents, including Robert F. Kennedy Jr., have repeated only in the last few months the claim that he is a fugitive, “on the run from Interpol,” and on Interpol’s most-wanted list. The Kennedy connection is an interesting one, given that Thorsen is author on a 2014 paper with other authors publishing “for the Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development Neonatal Research Network.”

If the charges are true, Thorsen bilked the US government, specifically the CDC, out of millions and used it to buy himself things. How that translates into a willingness to engage in a conspiracy with the CDC remains elusive.

Quick! Somebody mention autism!

anaconda
09-20-2017, 01:46 AM
RFK, Jr., the guy who scammed a bunch of Obama administration green technology money? Or am I confusing him with someone else?

http://news.thomasnet.com/imt/2011/11/25/robert-kennedy-jr-connected-green-energy-company-rakes-in-1-4-billion-from-obama-administration

BTW if anyone thinks the official 9-11 story is nutty, just take a look into the RFK assassination. Plot spoiler: The LAPD lost or destroyed all of the evidence. Sirhan Sirhan most certainly did not kill RFK.


http://www.nhregister.com/columns/article/COOL-JUSTICE-RFK-Jr-points-to-forensic-evidence-11326803.php

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/K%20Disk/Kennedy%20Robert%20F%20Assassination%20Investigati on%20Reopening%208-15-75/Item%20128.pdf

http://articles.latimes.com/1996-01-18/local/me-25805_1_kennedy-fall

Weston White
09-20-2017, 04:03 AM
Thanks Indeed! The Forbes article is openly mocking the antivaxxers. *snicker*



Quick! Somebody mention autism!

If this were a crooked cop, coroner, or forensics lab would then be arguing that their other prior cases ought not be called into question too?

If this dude was willing to embezzle millions from grant funds that was to go research for solving serious diseases and illness do you really think he gives two-craps about influencing reports to fit a desired outcome or political agenda or violating procedural research mandates?

angelatc
09-20-2017, 08:54 AM
If this were a crooked cop, coroner, or forensics lab would then be arguing that their other prior cases ought not be called into question too?

If this dude was willing to embezzle millions from grant funds that was to go research for solving serious diseases and illness do you really think he gives two-craps about influencing reports to fit a desired outcome or political agenda or violating procedural research mandates?


By all means, present actual data showing that his results were skewed. The world is waiting.

Weston White
09-20-2017, 02:59 PM
By all means, present actual data showing that his results were skewed. The world is waiting.

Oh you can just read that PDF instead, it is all laid out in there, also while you are at it, read the author's credentials. Ah, and yourself a grand day too. Cheerio!

Created4
09-20-2017, 03:17 PM
If this were a crooked cop, coroner, or forensics lab would then be arguing that their other prior cases ought not be called into question too?

If this dude was willing to embezzle millions from grant funds that was to go research for solving serious diseases and illness do you really think he gives two-craps about influencing reports to fit a desired outcome or political agenda or violating procedural research mandates?

Don't confuse angelatc with facts. It lessens the effects of her ad hominem attacks.

The "scientist" the CDC relies on most to "prove" the claim that vaccines don't cause autism:

http://vaccineimpact.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2017/04/OIG-report-Poul-Thorsen-Fugitive.jpg

Created4
09-20-2017, 03:28 PM
Dr. Coleen Boyle of the CDC being asked in a Congressional Hearing if the CDC had gone back and validated Dr. Poul Thorsen's work:


https://youtu.be/uNWTOmEi_6A?t=2m43s

Starts at 2 minutes 43 seconds

angelatc
09-20-2017, 04:02 PM
Don't confuse angelatc with facts. It lessens the effects of her ad hominem attacks.


That's wonderfully ironic. But tell me - how do you define facts?

Working Poor
09-20-2017, 05:57 PM
Just like any other agency that depends on tax payer dollars I have no doubt that corruption may loom large. Especially the medical industrial complex and their drugs with death as a known side effect even when taken as directed and what might be done in order to get them approved.

I don't trust the CDC either and I don't know how anyone at this forum could trust them either.

donnay
09-20-2017, 06:05 PM
Just like any other agency that depends on tax payer dollars I have no doubt that corruption may loom large. Especially the medical industrial complex and their drugs with death as a known side effect even when taken as directed and what might be done in order to get them approved.

I don't trust the CDC either and I don't know how anyone at this forum could trust them either.

The CDC and FDA need to go away. They are not looking out for the best interest of the citizens they are looking out for the best interests of Big pHARMa.

Working Poor
09-20-2017, 06:48 PM
The CDC and FDA need to go away. They are not looking out for the best interest of the citizens they are looking out for the best interests of Big pHARMa.

Well, we know Ron Paul would have gotten rid of them.

donnay
09-20-2017, 06:51 PM
Well, we know Ron Paul would have gotten rid of them.

Absolutely.

Created4
09-20-2017, 07:26 PM
I don't trust the CDC either and I don't know how anyone at this forum could trust them either.

Can We Trust the CDC? British Medical Journal Reveals CDC Lies About Ties to Big Pharma (http://healthimpactnews.com/2015/can-we-trust-the-cdc-british-medical-journal-reveals-cdc-lies-about-ties-to-big-pharma/)

Weston White
09-20-2017, 10:33 PM
Quick! Somebody mention autism!

Well, for now, will just maintain the high ground and call into question as to why Forbes was so hasty in poking fun rather than conducting some prudent fact-checking? (Subtly pointing to above post (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?515086-RFK-JR-ISSUES-REPORT-SHOWING-STRONG-EVIDENCE-OF-ONGOING-CORRUPTION-amp-SCIENTIFIC-FRAUD-AT-THE&p=6527335&viewfull=1#post6527335) by Created.)

donnay
09-21-2017, 06:16 AM
Well, for now, will just maintain the high ground and call into question as to why Forbes was so hasty in poking fun rather than conducting some prudent fact-checking? (Subtly pointing to above post (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?515086-RFK-JR-ISSUES-REPORT-SHOWING-STRONG-EVIDENCE-OF-ONGOING-CORRUPTION-amp-SCIENTIFIC-FRAUD-AT-THE&p=6527335&viewfull=1#post6527335) by Created.)

Great point. However, I think we know why Forbes won't be doing any fact-checking on their readers behalf, because they have an obligation to Big pHARMa since Bp keeps them up and running with advertisement.

donnay
09-28-2017, 06:02 AM
A GOVERNMENT COVER-UP OF A MERCURY/AUTISM SCANDAL HAS NOW BEEN EXPOSED
ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR.SEPTEMBER 27, 2017

World Mercury Project note: With the ongoing mainstream media blackout on questions regarding vaccine safety, we want to remind our followers of the publication–and subsequent retraction–of Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.’s 2005 article “Deadly Immunity” in Salon. The history of repression of crucial vaccine safety data runs deep. The article laid out the scientific link between thimerosal and childhood neurological disorders and published explosive excerpts from the transcripts from the CDC’s secretive June 2000 Simpsonwood conference which brought together government public health officials, vaccine manufacturers and professional medical associations. The article was groundbreaking at the time and received lots of media attention for uncovering the cozy relationship between government and industry at the expense of children’s health. Even though a dozen years have passed, the article’s facts have stood the test of time. An important read for people new to the movement and long-time advocates alike.

Visit The World Mercury Project Facebook page HERE.

In June 2000, a group of top government scientists and health officials gathered for a meeting at the isolated Simpsonwood conference center in Norcross, Georgia. Convened by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the meeting was held at this Methodist retreat center, nestled in wooded farmland next to the Chattahoochee River, to ensure complete secrecy. The agency had issued no public announcement of the session — only private invitations to fifty-two attendees. There were high-level officials from the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration, the top vaccine specialist from the World Health Organization in Geneva and representatives of every major vaccine manufacturer, including GlaxoSmithKline, Merck, Wyeth and Aventis Pasteur. All of the scientific data under discussion, CDC officials repeatedly reminded the participants, was strictly “embargoed.” There would be no making photocopies of documents, no taking papers with them when they left.

“I was actually stunned by what I saw,” Verstraeten told those assembled at Simpsonwood, citing the staggering number of earlier studies that indicate a link between thimerosal and speech delays, attention-deficit disorder, hyperactivity and autism.”
The federal officials and industry representatives had assembled to discuss a disturbing new study that raised alarming questions about the safety of a host of common childhood vaccines administered to infants and young children. According to a CDC epidemiologist named Tom Verstraeten, who had analyzed the agency’s massive database containing the medical records of 100,000 children, a mercury-based preservative in the vaccines — thimerosal — appeared to be responsible for a dramatic increase in autism and a host of other neurological disorders among children. “I was actually stunned by what I saw,” Verstraeten told those assembled at Simpsonwood, citing the staggering number of earlier studies that indicate a link between thimerosal and speech delays, attention-deficit disorder, hyperactivity and autism. Since 1991, when the CDC and the FDA had recommended that three additional vaccines laced with the preservative be given to extremely young infants — in one case, within hours of birth — the estimated number of cases of autism had increased fifteenfold, from one in every 2,500 children to one in 166 children.

Even for scientists and doctors accustomed to confronting issues of life and death, the findings were frightening. “You can play with this all you want,” Dr. Bill Weil, a consultant for the American Academy of Pediatrics, told the group. The results “are statistically significant.” Dr. Richard Johnston, an immunologist and pediatrician from the University of Colorado whose grandson had been born early on the morning of the meeting’s first day, was even more alarmed. “My gut feeling?” he said. “Forgive this personal comment — I do not want my grandson to get a thimerosal-containing vaccine until we know better what is going on.”

But instead of taking immediate steps to alert the public and rid the vaccine supply of thimerosal, the officials and executives at Simpsonwood spent most of the next two days discussing how to cover up the damaging data. According to transcripts obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, many at the meeting were concerned about how the damaging revelations about thimerosal would affect the vaccine industry’s bottom line. “We are in a bad position from the standpoint of defending any lawsuits,” said Dr. Robert Brent, a pediatrician at the Alfred I. duPont Hospital for Children in Delaware. “This will be a resource to our very busy plaintiff attorneys in this country.” Dr. Bob Chen, head of vaccine safety for the CDC, expressed relief that “given the sensitivity of the information, we have been able to keep it out of the hands of, let’s say, less responsible hands.” Dr. John Clements, vaccines advisor at the World Health Organization, declared that “perhaps this study should not have been done at all.” He added that “the research results have to be handled,” warning that the study “will be taken by others and will be used in other ways beyond the control of this group.”

…instead of taking immediate steps to alert the public and rid the vaccine supply of thimerosal, the officials and executives at Simpsonwood spent most of the next two days discussing how to cover up the damaging data.
In fact, the government has proved to be far more adept at handling the damage than at protecting children’s health. The CDC paid the Institute of Medicine to conduct a new study to whitewash the risks of thimerosal, ordering researchers to “rule out” the chemical’s link to autism. It withheld Verstraeten’s findings, even though they had been slated for immediate publication, and told other scientists that his original data had been “lost” and could not be replicated. And to thwart the Freedom of Information Act, it handed its giant database of vaccine records over to a private company, declaring it off-limits to researchers. By the time Verstraeten finally published his study in 2003, he had gone to work for GlaxoSmithKline and reworked his data to bury the link between thimerosal and autism.

Vaccine manufacturers had already begun to phase thimerosal out of injections given to American infants — but they continued to sell off their mercury-based supplies of vaccines until last year. The CDC and FDA gave them a hand, buying up the tainted vaccines for export to developing countries and allowing drug companies to continue using the preservative in some American vaccines — including several pediatric flu shots as well as tetanus boosters routinely given to eleven-year-olds.

The drug companies are also getting help from powerful lawmakers in Washington. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, who has received $873,000 in contributions from the pharmaceutical industry, has been working to immunize vaccine makers from liability in 4,200 lawsuits that have been filed by the parents of injured children. On five separate occasions, Frist has tried to seal all of the government’s vaccine-related documents — including the Simpsonwood transcripts — and shield Eli Lilly, the developer of thimerosal, from subpoenas. In 2002, the day after Frist quietly slipped a rider known as the “Eli Lilly Protection Act” into a homeland security bill, the company contributed $10,000 to his campaign and bought 5,000 copies of his book on bioterrorism. The measure was repealed by Congress in 2003 — but earlier this year, Frist slipped another provision into an anti-terrorism bill that would deny compensation to children suffering from vaccine-related brain disorders. “The lawsuits are of such magnitude that they could put vaccine producers out of business and limit our capacity to deal with a biological attack by terrorists,” says Dean Rosen, health policy adviser to Frist.

Even many conservatives are shocked by the government’s effort to cover up the dangers of thimerosal. Rep. Dan Burton, a Republican from Indiana, oversaw a three-year investigation of thimerosal after his grandson was diagnosed with autism. “Thimerosal used as a preservative in vaccines is directly related to the autism epidemic,” his House Government Reform Committee concluded in its final report. “This epidemic in all probability may have been prevented or curtailed had the FDA not been asleep at the switch regarding a lack of safety data regarding injected thimerosal, a known neurotoxin.” The FDA and other public-health agencies failed to act, the committee added, out of “institutional malfeasance for self protection” and “misplaced protectionism of the pharmaceutical industry.”

The story of how government health agencies colluded with Big Pharma to hide the risks of thimerosal from the public is a chilling case study of institutional arrogance, power and greed. I was drawn into the controversy only reluctantly. As an attorney and environmentalist who has spent years working on issues of mercury toxicity, I frequently met mothers of autistic children who were absolutely convinced that their kids had been injured by vaccines. Privately, I was skeptical.

I doubted that autism could be blamed on a single source, and I certainly understood the government’s need to reassure parents that vaccinations are safe; the eradication of deadly childhood diseases depends on it. I tended to agree with skeptics like Rep. Henry Waxman, a Democrat from California, who criticized his colleagues on the House Government Reform Committee for leaping to conclusions about autism and vaccinations. “Why should we scare people about immunization,” Waxman pointed out at one hearing, “until we know the facts?”

It was only after reading the Simpsonwood transcripts, studying the leading scientific research and talking with many of the nation’s pre-eminent authorities on mercury that I became convinced that the link between thimerosal and the epidemic of childhood neurological disorders is real. Five of my own children are members of the Thimerosal Generation — those born between 1989 and 2003 — who received heavy doses of mercury from vaccines. “The elementary grades are overwhelmed with children who have symptoms of neurological or immune-system damage,” Patti White, a school nurse, told the House Government Reform Committee in 1999. “Vaccines are supposed to be making us healthier; however, in twenty-five years of nursing I have never seen so many damaged, sick kids. Something very, very wrong is happening to our children.”

“Vaccines are supposed to be making us healthier; however, in twenty-five years of nursing I have never seen so many damaged, sick kids. Something very, very wrong is happening to our children.”

More than 500,000 kids currently suffer from autism, and pediatricians diagnose more than 40,000 new cases every year. The disease was unknown until 1943, when it was identified and diagnosed among eleven children born in the months after thimerosal was first added to baby vaccines in 1931.

Some skeptics dispute that the rise in autism is caused by thimerosal-tainted vaccinations. They argue that the increase is a result of better diagnosis — a theory that seems questionable at best, given that most of the new cases of autism are clustered within a single generation of children. “If the epidemic is truly an artifact of poor diagnosis,” scoffs Dr. Boyd Haley, one of the world’s authorities on mercury toxicity, “then where are all the twenty-year-old autistics?” Other researchers point out that Americans are exposed to a greater cumulative “load” of mercury than ever before, from contaminated fish to dental fillings, and suggest that thimerosal in vaccines may be only part of a much larger problem. It’s a concern that certainly deserves far more attention than it has received — but it overlooks the fact that the mercury concentrations in vaccines dwarf other sources of exposure to our children.

What is most striking is the lengths to which many of the leading detectives have gone to ignore — and cover up — the evidence against thimerosal. From the very beginning, the scientific case against the mercury additive has been overwhelming. The preservative, which is used to stem fungi and bacterial growth in vaccines, contains ethylmercury, a potent neurotoxin. Truckloads of studies have shown that mercury tends to accumulate in the brains of primates and other animals after they are injected with vaccines — and that the developing brains of infants are particularly susceptible. In 1977, a Russian study found that adults exposed to much lower concentrations of ethylmercury than those given to American children still suffered brain damage years later. Russia banned thimerosal from children’s vaccines twenty years ago, and Denmark, Austria, Japan, Great Britain and all the Scandinavian countries have since followed suit.

“You couldn’t even construct a study that shows thimerosal is safe,” says Haley, who heads the chemistry department at the University of Kentucky. “It’s just too darn toxic. If you inject thimerosal into an animal, its brain will sicken. If you apply it to living tissue, the cells die. If you put it in a petri dish, the culture dies. Knowing these things, it would be shocking if one could inject it into an infant without causing damage.”

Internal documents reveal that Eli Lilly, which first developed thimerosal, knew from the start that its product could cause damage — and even death — in both animals and humans. In 1930, the company tested thimerosal by administering it to twenty-two patients with terminal meningitis, all of whom died within weeks of being injected — a fact Lilly didn’t bother to report in its study declaring thimerosal safe. In 1935, researchers at another vaccine manufacturer, Pittman-Moore, warned Lilly that its claims about thimerosal’s safety “did not check with ours.” Half the dogs Pittman injected with thimerosal-based vaccines became sick, leading researchers there to declare the preservative “unsatisfactory as a serum intended for use on dogs.”

In the decades that followed, the evidence against thimerosal continued to mount. During the Second World War, when the Department of Defense used the preservative in vaccines on soldiers, it required Lilly to label it “poison.” In 1967, a study in Applied Microbiology found that thimerosal killed mice when added to injected vaccines. Four years later, Lilly’s own studies discerned that thimerosal was “toxic to tissue cells” in concentrations as low as one part per million — 100 times weaker than the concentration in a typical vaccine. Even so, the company continued to promote thimerosal as “nontoxic” and also incorporated it into topical disinfectants. In 1977, ten babies at a Toronto hospital died when an antiseptic preserved with thimerosal was dabbed onto their umbilical cords.

Internal documents reveal that Eli Lilly, which first developed thimerosal, knew from the start that its product could cause damage — and even death — in both animals and humans.
In 1982, the FDA proposed a ban on over-the-counter products that contained thimerosal, and in 1991 the agency considered banning it from animal vaccines. But tragically, that same year, the CDC recommended that infants be injected with a series of mercury-laced vaccines. Newborns would be vaccinated for hepatitis B within twenty-four hours of birth, and two-month-old infants would be immunized for haemophilus influenzae B and diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis.

The drug industry knew the additional vaccines posed a danger. The same year that the CDC approved the new vaccines, Dr. Maurice Hilleman, one of the fathers of Merck’s vaccine programs, warned the company that six-month-olds who were administered the shots would suffer dangerous exposure to mercury. He recommended that thimerosal be discontinued, “especially when used on infants and children,” noting that the industry knew of nontoxic alternatives. “The best way to go,” he added, “is to switch to dispensing the actual vaccines without adding preservatives.”

For Merck and other drug companies, however, the obstacle was money. Thimerosal enables the pharmaceutical industry to package vaccines in vials that contain multiple doses, which require additional protection because they are more easily contaminated by multiple needle entries. The larger vials cost half as much to produce as smaller, single-dose vials, making it cheaper for international agencies to distribute them to impoverished regions at risk of epidemics. Faced with this “cost consideration,” Merck ignored Hilleman’s warnings, and government officials continued to push more and more thimerosal-based vaccines for children. Before 1989, American preschoolers received eleven vaccinations — for polio, diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis and measles-mumps-rubella. A decade later, thanks to federal recommendations, children were receiving a total of twenty-two immunizations by the time they reached first grade.

As the number of vaccines increased, the rate of autism among children exploded. During the 1990s, 40 million children were injected with thimerosal-based vaccines, receiving unprecedented levels of mercury during a period critical for brain development. Despite the well-documented dangers of thimerosal, it appears that no one bothered to add up the cumulative dose of mercury that children would receive from the mandated vaccines. “What took the FDA so long to do the calculations?” Peter Patriarca, director of viral products for the agency, asked in an e-mail to the CDC in 1999. “Why didn’t CDC and the advisory bodies do these calculations when they rapidly expanded the childhood immunization schedule?”

But by that time, the damage was done. At two months, when the infant brain is still at a critical stage of development, infants routinely received three inoculations that contained a total of 62.5 micrograms of ethylmercury — a level 99 times greater than the EPA’s limit for daily exposure to methylmercury, a related neurotoxin. Although the vaccine industry insists that ethylmercury poses little danger because it breaks down rapidly and is removed by the body, several studies — including one published in April by the National Institutes of Health — suggest that ethylmercury is actually more toxic to developing brains and stays in the brain longer than methylmercury.

Officials responsible for childhood immunizations insist that the additional vaccines were necessary to protect infants from disease and that thimerosal is still essential in developing nations, which, they often claim, cannot afford the single-dose vials that don’t require a preservative. Dr. Paul Offit, one of CDC’s top vaccine advisers, told me, “I think if we really have an influenza pandemic — and certainly we will in the next twenty years, because we always do — there’s no way on God’s earth that we immunize 280 million people with single-dose vials. There has to be multidose vials.”

But while public-health officials may have been well-intentioned, many of those on the CDC advisory committee who backed the additional vaccines had close ties to the industry. Dr. Sam Katz, the committee’s chair, was a paid consultant for most of the major vaccine makers and was part of a team that developed the measles vaccine and brought it to licensure in 1963. Dr. Neal Halsey, another committee member, worked as a researcher for the vaccine companies and received honoraria from Abbott Labs for his research on the hepatitis B vaccine.

Indeed, in the tight circle of scientists who work on vaccines, such conflicts of interest are common. Rep. Burton says that the CDC “routinely allows scientists with blatant conflicts of interest to serve on intellectual advisory committees that make recommendations on new vaccines,” even though they have “interests in the products and companies for which they are supposed to be providing unbiased oversight.” The House Government Reform Committee discovered that four of the eight CDC advisers who approved guidelines for a rotavirus vaccine “had financial ties to the pharmaceutical companies that were developing different versions of the vaccine.”

Offit, who shares a patent on one of the vaccines, acknowledged to me that he “would make money” if his vote eventually leads to a marketable product. But he dismissed my suggestion that a scientist’s direct financial stake in CDC approval might bias his judgment. “It provides no conflict for me,” he insists. “I have simply been informed by the process, not corrupted by it. When I sat around that table, my sole intent was trying to make recommendations that best benefited the children in this country. It’s offensive to say that physicians and public-health people are in the pocket of industry and thus are making decisions that they know are unsafe for children. It’s just not the way it works.”

Other vaccine scientists and regulators gave me similar assurances. Like Offit, they view themselves as enlightened guardians of children’s health, proud of their “partnerships” with pharmaceutical companies, immune to the seductions of personal profit, besieged by irrational activists whose anti-vaccine campaigns are endangering children’s health. They are often resentful of questioning. “Science,” says Offit, “is best left to scientists.”

Still, some government officials were alarmed by the apparent conflicts of interest. In his e-mail to CDC administrators in 1999, Paul Patriarca of the FDA blasted federal regulators for failing to adequately scrutinize the danger posed by the added baby vaccines. “I’m not sure there will be an easy way out of the potential perception that the FDA, CDC and immunization-policy bodies may have been asleep at the switch re: thimerosal until now,” Patriarca wrote. The close ties between regulatory officials and the pharmaceutical industry, he added, “will also raise questions about various advisory bodies regarding aggressive recommendations for use” of thimerosal in child vaccines.

If federal regulators and government scientists failed to grasp the potential risks of thimerosal over the years, no one could claim ignorance after the secret meeting at Simpsonwood. But rather than conduct more studies to test the link to autism and other forms of brain damage, the CDC placed politics over science. The agency turned its database on childhood vaccines — which had been developed largely at taxpayer expense — over to a private agency, America’s Health Insurance Plans, ensuring that it could not be used for additional research. It also instructed the Institute of Medicine, an advisory organization that is part of the National Academy of Sciences, to produce a study debunking the link between thimerosal and brain disorders. The CDC “wants us to declare, well, that these things are pretty safe,” Dr. Marie McCormick, who chaired the IOM’s Immunization Safety Review Committee, told her fellow researchers when they first met in January 2001. “We are not ever going to come down that [autism] is a true side effect” of thimerosal exposure. According to transcripts of the meeting, the committee’s chief staffer, Kathleen Stratton, predicted that the IOM would conclude that the evidence was “inadequate to accept or reject a causal relation” between thimerosal and autism. That, she added, was the result “Walt wants” — a reference to Dr. Walter Orenstein, director of the National Immunization Program for the CDC.

For those who had devoted their lives to promoting vaccination, the revelations about thimerosal threatened to undermine everything they had worked for. “We’ve got a dragon by the tail here,” said Dr. Michael Kaback, another committee member. “The more negative that [our] presentation is, the less likely people are to use vaccination, immunization — and we know what the results of that will be. We are kind of caught in a trap. How we work our way out of the trap, I think is the charge.”

Even in public, federal officials made it clear that their primary goal in studying thimerosal was to dispel doubts about vaccines. “Four current studies are taking place to rule out the proposed link between autism and thimerosal,” Dr. Gordon Douglas, then-director of strategic planning for vaccine research at the National Institutes of Health, assured a Princeton University gathering in May 2001. “In order to undo the harmful effects of research claiming to link the [measles] vaccine to an elevated risk of autism, we need to conduct and publicize additional studies to assure parents of safety.” Douglas formerly served as president of vaccinations for Merck, where he ignored warnings about thimerosal’s risks.

In May of last year (2004), the Institute of Medicine issued its final report. Its conclusion: There is no proven link between autism and thimerosal in vaccines. Rather than reviewing the large body of literature describing the toxicity of thimerosal, the report relied on four disastrously flawed epidemiological studies examining European countries, where children received much smaller doses of thimerosal than American kids. It also cited a new version of the Verstraeten study, published in the journal Pediatrics, that had been reworked to reduce the link between thimerosal and autism. The new study included children too young to have been diagnosed with autism and overlooked others who showed signs of the disease. The IOM declared the case closed and — in a startling position for a scientific body — recommended that no further research be conducted.

The report may have satisfied the CDC, but it convinced no one. Rep. David Weldon, a Republican physician from Florida who serves on the House Government Reform Committee, attacked the Institute of Medicine, saying it relied on a handful of studies that were “fatally flawed” by “poor design” and failed to represent “all the available scientific and medical research.” CDC officials are not interested in an honest search for the truth, Weldon told me, because “an association between vaccines and autism would force them to admit that their policies irreparably damaged thousands of children. Who would want to make that conclusion about themselves?”

Under pressure from Congress and parents, the Institute of Medicine convened another panel to address continuing concerns about the Vaccine Safety Datalink Data Sharing program. In February, the new panel, composed of different scientists, criticized the way the VSD had been used in the Verstraeten study, and urged the CDC to make its vaccine database available to the public.

So far, though, only two scientists have managed to gain access. Dr. Mark Geier, president of the Genetics Center of America, and his son, David, spent a year battling to obtain the medical records from the CDC. Since August 2002, when members of Congress pressured the agency to turn over the data, the Geiers have completed six studies that demonstrate a powerful correlation between thimerosal and neurological damage in children.

One study, which compares the cumulative dose of mercury received by children born between 1981 and 1985 with those born between 1990 and 1996, found a “very significant relationship” between autism and vaccines. Another study of educational performance found that kids who received higher doses of thimerosal in vaccines were nearly three times as likely to be diagnosed with autism and more than three times as likely to suffer from speech disorders and mental retardation. Another soon-to-be published study shows that autism rates are in decline following the recent elimination of thimerosal from most vaccines.

As the federal government worked to prevent scientists from studying vaccines, others have stepped in to study the link to autism. In April, reporter Dan Olmsted of UPI undertook one of the more interesting studies himself. Searching for children who had not been exposed to mercury in vaccines — the kind of population that scientists typically use as a “control” in experiments — Olmsted scoured the Amish of Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, who refuse to immunize their infants. Given the national rate of autism, Olmsted calculated that there should be 130 autistics among the Amish. He found only four. One had been exposed to high levels of mercury from a power plant. The other three — including one child adopted from outside the Amish community — had received their vaccines.

At the state level, many officials have also conducted in-depth reviews of thimerosal. While the Institute of Medicine was busy whitewashing the risks, the Iowa legislature was carefully combing through all of the available scientific and biological data. “After three years of review, I became convinced there was sufficient credible research to show a link between mercury and the increased incidences in autism,” says state Sen. Ken Veenstra, a Republican who oversaw the investigation. “The fact that Iowa’s 700 percent increase in autism began in the 1990s, right after more and more vaccines were added to the children’s vaccine schedules, is solid evidence alone.” Last year, Iowa became the first state to ban mercury in vaccines, followed by California. Similar bans are now under consideration in thirty-two other states.

But instead of following suit, the FDA continues to allow manufacturers to include thimerosal in scores of over-the-counter medications as well as steroids and injected collagen. Even more alarming, the government continues to ship vaccines preserved with thimerosal to developing countries — some of which are now experiencing a sudden explosion in autism rates. In China, where the disease was virtually unknown prior to the introduction of thimerosal by U.S. drug manufacturers in 1999, news reports indicate that there are now more than 1.8 million autistics. Although reliable numbers are hard to come by, autistic disorders also appear to be soaring in India, Argentina, Nicaragua and other developing countries that are now using thimerosal-laced vaccines. The World Health Organization continues to insist thimerosal is safe, but it promises to keep the possibility that it is linked to neurological disorders “under review.”

I devoted time to study this issue because I believe that this is a moral crisis that must be addressed. If, as the evidence suggests, our public-health authorities knowingly allowed the pharmaceutical industry to poison an entire generation of American children, their actions arguably constitute one of the biggest scandals in the annals of American medicine. “The CDC is guilty of incompetence and gross negligence,” says Mark Blaxill, vice president of Safe Minds, a nonprofit organization concerned about the role of mercury in medicines. “The damage caused by vaccine exposure is massive. It’s bigger than asbestos, bigger than tobacco, bigger than anything you’ve ever seen.”

It’s hard to calculate the damage to our country — and to the international efforts to eradicate epidemic diseases — if Third World nations come to believe that America’s most heralded foreign-aid initiative is poisoning their children. It’s not difficult to predict how this scenario will be interpreted by America’s enemies abroad. The scientists and researchers — many of them sincere, even idealistic — who are participating in efforts to hide the science on thimerosal claim that they are trying to advance the lofty goal of protecting children in developing nations from disease pandemics. They are badly misguided. Their failure to come clean on thimerosal will come back horribly to haunt our country and the world’s poorest populations.

If, as the evidence suggests, our public-health authorities knowingly allowed the pharmaceutical industry to poison an entire generation of American children, their actions arguably constitute one of the biggest scandals in the annals of American medicine.
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After several revisions to the article and nearly 6 years after the original publication date, Salon.com retracted the article from its website archives without consideration or opportunity for rebuttal. For the reasons behind why Salon.com pulled the article, click here.

“Deadly Immunity” was simultaneously published in Rolling Stone Magazine (www.RollingStone.com) on July 14, 2005 and can be read on their website with a Rolling Stone Magazine subscription.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2017/09/27/deadly-immunity-government-cover-up-of-a-mercuryautism-scandal-exposed/?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

angelatc
09-28-2017, 08:37 AM
Well, for now, will just maintain the high ground and call into question as to why Forbes was so hasty in poking fun rather than conducting some prudent fact-checking? (Subtly pointing to above post (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?515086-RFK-JR-ISSUES-REPORT-SHOWING-STRONG-EVIDENCE-OF-ONGOING-CORRUPTION-amp-SCIENTIFIC-FRAUD-AT-THE&p=6527335&viewfull=1#post6527335) by Created.)

Using biting sarcasm to make a point does not negate the simple point. One which you avoid, preferring instead to screech and point to another topic, which was discussed here back when in 2015. Moving goalposts.

Here's a hint - unbiased sources never use the phrase "Big Pharma." That phrase has been crafted simply to trigger ya'll into falling for the click bait.

Ender
09-28-2017, 09:11 AM
Using biting sarcasm to make a point does not negate the simple point. One which you avoid, preferring instead to screech and point to another topic, which was discussed here back when in 2015. Moving goalposts.

Here's a hint - unbiased sources never use the phrase "Big Pharma." That phrase has been crafted simply to trigger ya'll into falling for the click bait.

Yeah, like the government. So unbiased. :rolleyes:

Welcome to the Medical/Insurance/Complex.

donnay
09-30-2017, 06:41 AM
THE “LOVE” EMAILS BETWEEN CDC’S DIANA SCHENDEL & AUTISM RESEARCHER POUL THORSEN
ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR.SEPTEMBER 29, 2017

By the World Mercury Project Team, The Love Birds:

Poul Thorsen, CDC Grantee, Autism Author and Researcher

Diana Schendel, CDC Epidemiologist, Research Health Scientist, CDC, National Center on Birth Defects and Developmental Disabilities (and supervisor to Poul Thorsen)

World Mercury Project (WMP) has reported that Centers for Disease Conrol (CDC) autism research scientist turned whistleblower, Dr. William Thompson, disclosed fraud in CDC autism research. Since Thompson’s disclosures, even more CDC whistleblowers beyond the subject of autism have come forward describing ongoing research fraud and misuse of funds at CDC.

Now, WMP wants to call your attention to a more recently uncovered scandal: the love notes between Poul Thorsen and Diana Schendel, obtained through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).

As World Mercury Project (WMP) discussed in our criminal conduct report of Poul Thorsen, Thorsen had an inappropriate relationship with his CDC supervisor, Diana Schendel beginning in 2002. These love notes are an important piece of the autism/vaccine link story. It is highly inappropriate for a CDC supervisor to be intimately involved with a grantee. When CDC managers learned of Schendel’s relationship with Thorsen, the disciplinary response from her supervisor, Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsopp, M.D., was equivalent to a hand slap.

As history has proven, the love relationship between Schendel and Thorsen (which includes accepting personal gifts and private retreats) resulted in lack of objectivity and oversight regarding Thorsen’s research activities which, in turn, allowed violations of laws governing protection of human subjects. And, as the indictment shows, the embezzlement of millions of dollars from the CDC.

Previous investigations into Thorsen’s research document a questionable loss of research subjects from studies using the Denmark Psychiatric Registry for which he had access and control. The loss of research subjects skewed research findings toward no association between autism and the mercury-based preservative Thimerosal. Noted epidemiological autism researcher, Irva Hertz-Picciotto, said of the Denmark research in a presentation at the 2007 Institute of Medicine (IOM) Workshop Autism and the Environment, “It was a study looking at the removal of thimerosal from vaccines and the rates of autism before and after. What you can see from this time line, which was not necessarily obvious from the original paper, was that before thimerosal was removed, there was a period of time when only inpatients were in the database, and during part of the “after-removal” period, which covered all the way out to 2000 in this study, there was an interval when both outpatients and inpatients were included. This study, therefore, is not a rigorous design, because as you can see, you can’t really compare the before and after periods because of artifacts in how the database was constructed, and specifically, in how that changed over time.” (WMP emphasis)

The Thorsen Denmark CDC studies were the bedrock of science used to dismiss over 5000 “vaccine court” claims by families who watched their children regress after exposure to Thimerosal-containing vaccines. And, by not being completely transparent on the dangers of injecting thimerosal into infants, the Thorsen research has resulted in the continued widespread use of this dangerous, neurotoxic vaccine ingredient.

It has now been six years now since Paul Thorsen was indicted for the alleged criminal acts of wire fraud, money laundering and a scheme to steal over $1 million in CDC grant money for critical research. The Office of Inspector General (OIG) also added him to the “Most Wanted” list. Yet Thorsen has been allowed to continue his work, business as usual, with no effort to prosecute him. There has also been no effort to restore the precious autism research dollars allegedly stolen that would help find solutions for families who desperately need answers for their autistic children.

Diana Schendel left the CDC and the United States. Since 2013, she has worked at Denmark’s Aarhus University (Thorsen’s previous employer) as a professor and autism researcher. And, as late as 2015, was still publishing papers on autism with her previous supervisor and current CDC employee, Yeargin-Allsopp.

World Mercury Project asks for:

Thorsen’s extradition back to the U.S. to face criminal charges;
a forensic evaluation of the research data used by Thorsen; and
Retraction of Thorsen’s research used to deny families’ autism/vaccine claims.
The “Love” emails, plus emails regarding the missing money and the cover up.

In a CDC internal investigation of Schendel’s emails regarding an inappropriate relationship and gifts, Public Health Analyst, Joanne Wojcik, reported to supervisors and co-workers Colleen Boyle, Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsopp, Sudevi Ghosh, Victoria Kipreos and Tom Horne that a search for “love” had turned up approximately 330 emails which included at least four potential gifts of wine carafes, earrings, a sword and mountain retreat. In addition to the “love” emails, FOIA turned up emails about the missing money, and attempt to cover up actions:

Poul Thorsen Exhibit 36 – The “Love” Emails

These notes are between Autism/Vaccine Researcher and CDC Grantee, Poul Thorsen, and his supervisor, Diana Schendel, CDC Autism/Vaccine Researcher.

Poul Thorsen Exhibits 35-40: Missing Money/The “Love” E-mails/The Cover Up

These notes, minutes and documents are from various meetings. The emails are between Diana Schendel (CDC), Teresa Fulford (CDC), Dorthe Hejl, Søren K. Kjærgaard (University of Aarhus), Joanne Wojcik (CDC), Paul Thorsen, Darlene Carlton (CDC), Coleen Boyle (CDC), Erik Parner, Carsten Obel, Catherine Rice (CDC), Kim Van-Naarden-Braun, Robert Vogt (CDC), Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsopp (CDC), Ulrik Kesmodel, Clark Denny (CDC), Tina Røndrup Kilburn, Hanne-Lise Falgreen Eriksen, Ashild Skogerø and Jakob Grove.

Evidence of Misconduct in Danish-CDC Collaboration

(Mismanagement & Intentional Collusion by CDC Staff with Principal Investigator Poul Thorsen)

An easy-to-follow overview by Beth Clay for World Mercury Project that puts some of the emails in context with a timeline of events.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2017/09/29/the-love-emails-between-cdcs-diana-schendel-autism-researcher-poul-thorsen/?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

angelatc
09-30-2017, 06:50 AM
These love notes are an important piece of the autism/vaccine link story

There is no link between vaccines and autism.

donnay
09-30-2017, 07:04 AM
There is no link between vaccines and autism.

Really? That's not what CDC whistleblower Dr. William Thompson said:

http://vaxxedthemovie.com/download-the-cdc-autism-mmr-files-released-by-dr-william-thompson/

Weston White
09-30-2017, 07:47 AM
There is no link between vaccines and autism.

Just like there is no link between your logic and reality, eh?

https://www.infowars.com/government-cover-up-of-a-mercuryautism-scandal/

angelatc
09-30-2017, 08:16 AM
Just like there is no link between your logic and reality, eh?

https://www.infowars.com/government-cover-up-of-a-mercuryautism-scandal/

That's another story about this exact same "scandal," not a link to a study that proves a link between vaccines and autism. For the love of God, think for just one minute. If there was a link between mercury and vaccines then autism rates should have fallen when mercury was removed from vaccines. But they didn't.

At what point will you people give up on that long-failed hypothesis?

donnay
10-16-2017, 06:14 AM
Cover-Up Exposed: Medical Professionals Hide Evidence Linking Vaccines To Neurodevelopmental Disorders

As questions over the necessity and safety of vaccines grow, an old scandal has surfaced exposing a government cover-up of evidence linking vaccinations to mercury/autism.

An assembly of high-ranking scientists and health/government officials came together back in June 2000 for a classified meeting at the Simpsonwood conference center in Norcross, Georgia.

As the area was isolated, it provided them with more secrecy for their meeting—sending out only 52 invitations to only the most need-to-know individuals.

The members who convened that day consisted of ” high-level officials from the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration, the top vaccine specialist from the World Health Organization in Geneva and representatives of every major vaccine manufacturers, including GlaxoSmithKline, Merck, Wyeth and Aventis Pasteur.”

The purpose of the meeting was to discuss a damning study linking child vaccines to conditions such as mercury poisoning, autism, attention deficit disorder, and speech impediments. Tom Verstraeten, an epidemiologist for the CDC, told the group, “I was actually stunned by what I saw.”

But instead of imploring each other to give this startling information to the public to prevent further illness, many of the members became more concerned with how this could negatively effect their profit margins, according to transcripts revealed through a Freedom of Information Act request.
“We are in a bad position from the standpoint of defending any lawsuits,” said Dr. Robert Brent from the Alfred I. duPont Hospital for Children, “This will be a resource to our very busy plaintiff attorneys in this country.”

“Given the sensitivity of the information, we have been able to keep it out of the hands of, let’s say, less responsible hands,” said Dr. Bob Chen, head of vaccine safety at the CDC.
“Perhaps this study should not have been done at all,” was the declaration made by Dr. John Clements, vaccines advisor for the World Health Organization, adding that “the research results have to be handled” and that the findings “will be taken by others and will be used in other ways beyond the control of this group.”
Instead of focusing on the prevention of further damage to the public, the group seemed more interested hiding the findings.
World Mercury Project explains:

“Mercury is a neurotoxin and contained in some flu vaccines. It has been linked to neurodevelopmental disorders and many diseases.

“The World Mercury Project has pulled together these resources to help you make informed decisions about the flu vaccine in order to protect you and your family from harm.”

Immunologist and pediatrician from the University of Colorado, Dr. Richard Johnston expressed his reaction to the study: “My gut feeling? Forgive this personal comment — I do not want my grandson to get a thimerosal-containing vaccine until we know better what is going on.”

Collective Evolution reported:

“Vaccine manufacturers had already begun to phase thimerosal out of injections given to American infants — but they continued to sell off their mercury-based supplies of vaccines until last year.

“The CDC and FDA gave them a hand, buying up the tainted vaccines for export to developing countries and allowing drug companies to continue using the preservative in some American vaccines — including several pediatric flu shots as well as tetanus boosters routinely given to eleven-year-olds.”

Revelations have also emerged exposing that drug/pharmaceutical companies receive financial help from Washington lawmakers. This is said to be a scheme to absolve vaccine makers from lawsuits filed out by parents of vaccinated children.

Indiana Republican Dan Burton expressed his shock at the allegations of a government cover-up, saying:

“Thimerosal used as a preservative in vaccines is directly related to the autism epidemic. This epidemic in all probability may have been prevented or curtailed had the FDA not been asleep at the switch regarding a lack of safety data regarding injected thimerosal, a known neurotoxin.”

As neurological disorders in children increase along with the growth in vaccines and mercury poisoning, even professionals are linking the dots together. A school nurse, Patti White, expressed her concerns to the House Government Reform Committee back in 1999.

She said:

“The elementary grades are overwhelmed with children who have symptoms of neurological or immune-system damage. Vaccines are supposed to be making us healthier; however, in twenty-five years of nursing I have never seen so many damaged, sick kids. Something very, very wrong is happening to our children.”

Back in May 2004, the Institute of Medicine stated its closure on their research, saying, “There is no proven link between autism and thimerosal in vaccines.”

Unsatisfied with their statement, parents and Congress summoned a new panel of experts to the Institution of Medicine to continue researching the safety of vaccines.

WATCH: Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Launches the World Mercury Project:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=7S5lJ_DKrXw

Source:
Collective Evolution
World Mercury Project
https://www.davidwolfe.com/cover-up-vaccines-link-neurodevelopmental-disorders/?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

Zippyjuan
10-16-2017, 11:54 AM
The purpose of the meeting was to discuss a damning study linking child vaccines to conditions such as mercury poisoning, autism, attention deficit disorder, and speech impediments.

It is impossible to get mercury poisoning from vaccines. There isn't any mercury in vaccines for children. And the amounts in the flu vaccine are way too small.

donnay
10-16-2017, 12:00 PM
TEN LIES Told by Those Who Say “Mercury in Vaccines is Safe”

Refuted by a Mother who Knows Better
REV. LISA K. SYKES



Lie # 1 “Thimerosal, 49.55% mercury by weight, is safe when used as a preservative in vaccines and other drugs.”

The Facts: The Eli Lilly Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) for Thimerosal acknowledges that exposure to Thimerosal in utero and in children can cause “mild to severe mental retardation and mild to severe gross motor impairment.” The Sigma Aldrich MSDS lists abortion and fetal death as possible outcomes of in utero exposure.

Nonetheless, most seasonal and H1N1 flu shots for pregnant women and young children contain 25 micrograms of mercury in the form of Thimerosal. For this exposure to be safe, a child would need to weigh more than 550 pounds.

Thimerosal is a poison, neurotoxin, cancer-causer, and can interrupt the immune system and the normal development of an unborn baby or a child. Thimerosal is so toxic that putting it on your skin is illegal. However, the government not only allows but also defends its injection into the population, especially pregnant women and newborn children, as part of influenza vaccines currently recommended by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).


Lie #2 “Mercury was removed from all childhood vaccines in (pick any year between 1999 and the present).”

The Facts: After “realizing” the amount of mercury in the childhood vaccination schedule recommended by the CDC exceeded all national and global maximum safety limits, the American Academy of Pediatrics and the United States Public Health Service called for the immediate removal of Thimerosal from all vaccines on July 7, 1999.

By 2003, the vaccine manufacturers had begun to react to the 1999 call by lowering the mercury content in many of the Thimerosal-preserved early childhood vaccines. However, in April of 2002, the CDC began recommending that pregnant women and very young children get annual Thimerosal-preserved flu shots. The result was a ‘shell game’ which has caused widespread confusion in the public because of press reports declaring, “Since (select a year between 1999 and the present), mercury has been removed from all recommended vaccines for children except for some flu shots.”

Astoundingly, the total level of mercury exposure, if a child receives all the possible CDC-recommended vaccinations that are still Thimerosal preserved, from 6 months to 18 years of age, has actually increased. Significantly, if you put the amount of mercury added to the immunization schedule as a result of the CDC-recommended seasonal and (in 2009) H1N1 flu shots** on one side of a scale, and the amount of mercury that was subtracted from that schedule by reformulating early childhood vaccines without Thimerosal on the other side, the total amount of mercury added far outweighs the amount of mercury subtracted. In addition, today most tetanus shots and the multi-dose Sanofi Menomune® vaccine that are approved by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) still contain 25-micrograms-a-dose mercury.

Currently, the actions taken by the vaccine manufacturers, the FDA and the CDC have increased the possible maximum childhood exposure to mercury from vaccines to twice the level that triggered the 1999 call to remove mercury from all vaccines as soon as possible! Also, new vaccine formulations with 25 micrograms of mercury per 0.5-mL dose are still being approved by the FDA for administration to pregnant women and children.

**Most doses of these flu vaccines are Thimerosal-preserved.


Lie #3 “Thimerosal is well-tested, having been used for 70 years with no problems.”

The Facts: Thimerosal has never undergone even one modern safety test. It was developed in 1927 and patented by Eli Lilly in 1928. It was first tested on small animals and killed a variety of mice, rabbits and chicks. After the animals died from exposure to Thimerosal, the decision was made to administer it to 22 patients suffering from bacterial meningitis during an epidemic in Indianapolis, Indiana in 1929.

Of the 22 persons given Thimerosal, all died, most within a day or two of administration. The doctor overseeing the trial, on stipend from Eli Lilly, declared that the patients had all died of meningitis and that Thimerosal was not observed to have caused any problem when administered to his patients. With that declaration, and a subsequent one by Eli Lilly staff that Thimerosal has a low order of toxicity for man, even though it killed small animals, Thimerosal was introduced into the drug supply. Yet, despite warnings in the published scientific literature that Thimerosal was toxic, and despite opposition to its use in every decade since, Thimerosal has remained in the drug supply.

The first protest on record against this highly toxic mercury compound was made in 1935 by the Pittman Moore Company which declared that, after testing, it found Thimerosal “was unsuitable as a preservative in serum intended for use in dogs…”

The FDA, passive with regard to safety testing, has never provided the results of appropriate toxicological tests on Thimerosal. Factually, the vaccine makers who use Thimerosal as a preservative are required by law to conduct and submit the results of such safety tests to the FDA before the FDA can legally approve a vaccine. Yet, the FDA has yet to produce even one of these vaccine maker’s toxicity studies, demonstrating Thimerosal safe for administration to humans, despite the fact that these documents have been sought in a court of law.


Lie #4 “No published peer-reviewed studies have shown any harm from Thimerosal.”

The Facts: The published scientific literature about Thimerosal can be divided into two distinct sets with opposite conclusions regarding its toxicity.

The first set is comprised of studies directly or indirectly supported by the pharmaceutical industry, showing that “there is no evidence of harm” from Thimerosal. These studies are the ones most often quoted by the Press. Most of these studies are statistical. In many cases, the data from which their conclusions are derived have been ‘lost’ or are unavailable or inconsistent. Significantly, the 2004 Institute of Medicine Vaccine Safety Review Committee, which defended Thimerosal, relied upon such statistical studies rather than the clinical evidence that the committee received.

The second set is comprised of hundreds of independent clinical and statistical studies demonstrating harm from Thimerosal. These studies are seldom quoted by the Press. Authors of these scientific papers include chemists, biologists, physicians and neurologists among others. Federal grants have often funded these studies. However, in many instances, when a researcher has concluded that Thimerosal causes harm, the grant has been withdrawn or ended. In one case, this happened after a researcher found an “autistic-like” condition in developing mice given injected mercury exposures like those human babies received from the CDC’s 1990’s immunization schedule. Independent researchers have lost jobs, been ostracized by peers, and/or had their medical licenses threatened, all because they dared to declare Thimerosal dangerous.

Published studies have shown that Thimerosal and its mercury breakdown product contribute to: Alzheimer’s, Cancer, Autism Spectrum Disorders, Attention Deficit Disorders, Bipolar Disorder, Asthma, Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, Arthritis, Food Allergies, Premature Puberty, and Infertility.


Lie #5 “No federal statements indicate any cause for concern regarding the continuing use of Thimerosal.”

The Facts: The following critical federal statements testify to the likelihood of egregious conflict of interest and possible collusive activity with regard to the acceptance of Thimerosal by manufacturers, the FDA and the CDC:

After a three-year investigation, a Congressional report released May 2003 by the staff of the Subcommittee on Human Rights and Wellness, Committee on Government Reform, “Mercury in Medicine” Hearings of the United States House of Representatives stated:

“Thimerosal used as a preservative in vaccines is likely related to the autism epidemic. This epidemic in all probability may have been prevented or curtailed had the FDA not been asleep at the switch regarding the lack of safety data regarding injected thimerosal and the sharp rise of infant exposure to this known neurotoxin. Our public health agencies’ failure to act is indicative of institutional malfeasance for self-protection and misplaced protectionism of the pharmaceutical industry.”

On May 22, 2004, after hundreds of disclosures from citizens to the Office of Special Counsel, US Special Counsel Scott Bloch issued this statement:

“I hasten to add, however, that based on the publicly available information…it appears there may be sufficient evidence to find a substantial likelihood of a substantial and specific danger to the public health caused by the use of thimerosal/mercury in vaccines because of its inherent toxicity.”

On July 15, 2005, Liz Birt, J.D., L.L.M., (former legal counsel to the Government Reform Committee, US House of Representatives) and Jim Moody, J.D., in a letter to Lauren Fuller, Chief Investigative Counsel, United States Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions (H.E.L.P.) Committee outlined a “Thimerosal Timeline” and a “Statement of Criminal Charges” against specific Federal Officials, including the following:

“FDA: Criminal negligence in not instituting a Class I recall of all vaccines administered to infants containing Thimerosal in July of 1999 and again in June of 2000…”

On July 19, 2004, Michael E. Little, Deputy Inspector General for Investigations in the Office of the Inspector General for the Department of Health and Human Services, in a letter to Rev. Lisa K. Sykes, stated:

“…we have determined that your above allegation (that Thimerosal is being used in order to increase the manufacturer’s profit margins) represents a potential conflict-of-interest issue which may be criminal in nature…”


Lie #6 “Individuals who oppose the use of mercury in medicine are anti-vaccine.”

The Facts: Contrary to sound bites you hear on the nightly news, to be “anti-mercury” is not to be “anti-vaccine.” In fact, by advocating this common-sense measure of removing mercury to ensure the safety of vaccines, anti-mercury advocates are actually championing vaccine safety. The Vaccine Program of this nation should not be a delivery system for a poison. Those arguing against the unnecessary use of a known neurotoxin in the vaccine/drug supply are seeking to safeguard public confidence in the vaccine program, not destroy it. Anti-mercury advocates want vaccines to be produced with non-toxic preservatives or, better yet, with no preservatives using clean manufacturing processes, a realistic and viable option in developed nations since the 1980s.

Tragically, in the face of catastrophic liability, those who defend mercury as a part of medicine are failing to correct a grave mistake. This mistake is a clear and present danger to the public and, especially, to the children. Inertia and denial in the federal government and in industry are contributing to the medical community’s protecting the place of mercury in medicine rather than protecting the health and safety of patients. This ordering of priorities is unethical.

If left uncorrected, this situation will continue to destroy public confidence in our national vaccine programs as more and more people realize that the escalating rates of chronic illness and developmental disorders are associated with Thimerosal, an unnecessary and indefensible part of our vaccines. Importantly, we are not assessing what the injuries already caused by Thimerosal will do to our nation’s future productivity with the government-admitted rate of 1-in-every-6 children being diagnosed with a developmental or behavioral disorder in 2004. Advocates calling for the removal and ban of the use of mercury are seeking to avoid an impending public health crisis by assuring that, immediately, vaccines are: a) made safer and b) manufactured according to all the current applicable federal safety regulations — not the non-existent drug safety laws of 1929!


Lie #7 “The movement to ban mercury from medicine is comprised of ‘hysterical’ parents who wrongly blame vaccines for their children’s autism.”

The Facts: Parents of mercury-injured children continue to argue tirelessly that unnecessarily exposing a child, in utero or after birth to mercury, is an avoidable risk. They know this avoidable risk is logically associated with the onset of neurodevelopmental and other disorders. With no compelling reason to use an ineffective neurotoxin as a preservative, and every reason, based on Thimerosal’s demonstrated toxicity, to eliminate it, parents make a logical, reasoned argument for banning Thimerosal from medicine –especially from vaccines intended for our children whose brains are still developing.

A growing number of informed physicians, politicians, and independent scientists are joining in this no-nonsense argument for placing the well-being of children first, above the profit margins of manufacturers. These professionals and, now, the faith community have joined in the call for “Protecting Children from Mercury-containing Drugs.”

On April 29, 2008, the General Conference of the United Methodist Church, representing 11.5-million persons of the Christian Faith, adopted a statement of the same name as a global and historic resolution of the denomination. This resolution calls upon the World Health Organization, international and national health officials/agencies, including the US Secretary of Health and Human Services, the FDA and the CDC to:

immediately prioritize mercury-free stocks of vaccines and other pharmaceutical products for pregnant women, newborn infants and children;
provide “the opportunity of informed consent” and promote product education to individuals about mercury exposure through their pharmaceutical products or vaccines, detailing the known risks of toxicity and Federal Safety Guidelines for exposure to mercury; and
And it further resolves, that:

“until mercury is banned from medicine, the medical missions, hospitals, clinics and ministries of The United Methodist Church strongly encourage use of mercury-free vaccines over mercury-containing ones. Acknowledging the difficulties in some contexts, we strongly urge that other organizations who are responsible for immunization efforts to prevent disease such as the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunizations, United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF), Rotary International, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, as well as any other organization from which vaccines are purchased, join The United Methodist Church in the educating the public about and advocating for mercury-free drugs and vaccines.”

With this bold witness by the United Methodist Church, the attempt by parent-advocates and others to ban mercury from medicine has appropriately grown into a social justice movement. It is now the community of faith, which esteems each life a priceless gift from God, which will lead this urgent public health reform.


Lie #8 “Autism is genetic.”

The Facts: Billions of dollars are being spent trying to prove that the autism epidemic is genetic. “Genetic drift,” the amount genes change over time, is 1% per 100 years. Therefore, with such a slow pace of change, there can be no such thing as a sudden ‘genetic epidemic.’ While a rare type of genetic autism may exist (at the background rate of ‘1 in 10,000’), the autism epidemic (at about ‘1 in 100’) cannot be due to genetic drift.

In addition, if autism were genetic, because it affects more males than females, geneticists teach us that it would have to be to an X-chromosome-linked disorder. (Girls, having two X chromosomes, would then have a redundant good chromosome, so the disorder would not manifest as often in females as in males who have only one X chromosome.) For a girl to have autism then, she would need to receive a defective X-chromosome from each parent, meaning they both carried the defect. The problem lies in the fact that if the father has the defect to pass onto his daughter, and it is on his only X-chromosome, then he should be affected by the disorder as well. Since autistic daughters rarely, if ever, have autistic fathers, the theory that “autism is genetic” fails because its claim does not match the empirical evidence.

There are two main recognized causes for any epidemic: an infectious agent or a widespread toxic exposure. Autism is due to the latter. Corresponding to the sharply increasing level of mercury in the immunization schedule globally, which started in the late 1980’s, there has been an increasing rate of autism among children. This also explains why autism among 40-, 50-, 60-, 70- and 80-year-olds is not epidemic, but rather rare. Those over 30 did not routinely get levels of vaccine-related mercury exposure high enough to cause autism.

Only when autism is understood as a widespread toxic exposure, can you explain the fact that everywhere boys are affected about 4 times more often with this disorder than girls. Researchers have established that testosterone increases the toxicity of mercury, while estrogen protects from it. Therefore, at the level contained in our vaccines, mercury affects boys disproportionately due to their having higher testosterone levels. This is what creates the ‘4 to 1’ ratio of males to females affected by the level of mercury poisoning in our children that is labeled as autism.

While there are many contributing and lesser sources of environmental mercury exposure, the one which precipitously and simultaneously changed with the advent of the autism epidemic was the mercury exposure from the increasing number of Thimerosal-preserved vaccines in the CDC’s recommended childhood vaccination schedules. Those children with a higher sensitivity to mercury and/or a higher level of exposure are those most impacted by this increased exposure to vaccine mercury. This is why not all children who received mercury-preserved vaccines are autistic: while the autism epidemic is not genetic, susceptibility to mercury poisoning has a strong genetic component and is unique for each individual!


Lie #9 “Since mercury was removed from vaccines, autism has increased, so Thimerosal cannot be the cause of the autism epidemic.”

In the face of such a statement, one must ask whether the mercury has truly been removed from vaccines in the country referenced. Then, one must ask from what year the sample rates under discussion were taken. The current rate given in the American media is about ‘1 in 100’. This rate is based upon statistics from children born in 1998. In regard to this particular rate and year, it reflects a time when mercury had not been removed in the United States, and the ‘1 in 100’ rate is actually not a new measure, but rather a crude estimate from among the peak years of mercury exposure in the American early childhood immunization schedule.

In assessing more current rates of autism, computed based on data from 2002 on, remember that while mercury was removed from many early childhood vaccines, it was reintroduced at the preservative level into the childhood schedule in the form of the seasonal and, later, the H1N1 flu vaccines. With each passing year since, more flu shots have been recommended, and the categories of persons who should take them, based on health conditions and age, have been expanded. So, continuing diagnosis rates for autism and other chronic illnesses simply reflect the continuing presence of mercury in the current vaccine supply to the present day.

Some foreign studies which claim that the autism rate increased after Thimerosal was removed are equally misleading. From Denmark, for example, a study actually began by counting only children with autism who were institutionalized.

Then when the government announced the Thimerosal had been removed from vaccines, suddenly home-bound children with autism were added to the count. Therefore, the number of children diagnosed with autism in the study did rise ‘once the mercury was removed’ – not because more children were diagnosed but only because more with diagnoses were counted! Studies such as these are known as “Garbage in-Garbage out” studies. When the basis of a study changes in the middle and this fact is omitted from its publicized results, then the perception created by the study is false.

What we do know is that the factual and complete removal of mercury from the vaccine/drug supply would tell us, definitively, if mercury caused the autism epidemic. Sadly, such attempts to completely withdraw Thimerosal have met with loud objections from the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Medical Association, the Institute of Medicine of the United States National Academy of Sciences, and others. These organizations, as well as our national health agencies, have actually lobbied federal and state officials to keep Thimerosal in vaccines.

Among the Amish who do not vaccinate, the rate of autism is strikingly low. Among those Pennsylvania Amish children actually diagnosed with autism, three were adopted and had received their vaccines prior to adoption, and one lived down-wind of a coal-burning power plant. Such anecdotal evidence suggests that the increases in recommended mercury-containing vaccines are causally related to the autism epidemic.


Lie #10 “There’s more mercury in a tuna fish sandwich than there is in one mercury-preserved flu shot.”

Remember, the United States Food and Drug Administration warns pregnant women to limit their consumption of fish because its mercury content may harm their unborn child. Sadly, neither the FDA nor the CDC has issued a similar warning about mercury-preserved flu shots. Clearly, the lack of a warning to pregnant women and young children regarding the mercury content of their vaccines makes no scientific sense.

Another scientific fallacy is the suggestion that the type of mercury (ethyl) in Thimerosal is less toxic than the type of mercury (methyl) in fish. This suggestion is not true. Ethyl mercury is actually more toxic to the kidneys, and equally toxic to other parts of the body as methyl mercury. All forms of mercury are highly toxic. When used in a vaccine, the mercury’s toxicity does not magically disappear! In fact, the mercury in a vaccine poses special dangers because it is injected.

Scientists know that eating mercury in food is completely different from injecting it directly into body and blood. This is because the body has defensive mechanisms to limit the absorption of toxins as they move through the digestive system. Just because you consume mercury in a tuna sandwich does not mean that the total mercury content of that meal will end up in your brain.

By contrast, injecting mercury in the form of Thimerosal directly into the body as part of a vaccine bypasses the body’s natural absorption defenses. The mercury enters the blood stream, but does not remain there long. It escapes from the bloodstream very quickly and enters the tissues in the body. The body is not able to defend itself well against injected mercury, and if a genetic susceptibility to mercury exists, the exposed individual may be able to excrete only minimal amounts of the injected mercury toxin.

We must also note that mercury crosses the placental barrier, and a pregnant woman’s body preferentially dumps mercury into her fetus. Thus, the unborn child, being mostly developing brain, sustains huge exposure from injected mercury, in particular, at critical stages of neurological development.

Remember also, that a newborn child excretes very little mercury. Understanding this, you realize that just because a study may report mercury levels are low in the blood, urine and/or feces after exposure to mercury, this does not mean the child has excreted the toxin (as some have implied in poorly done scientific studies.) Instead, it more likely means that the mercury has already sequestered itself in the vital parts of the body.

For anyone, of any age, mercury delivered through injection behind a body’s defenses is a much more significant exposure than mercury ingested with food. A much greater percentage of the toxic exposure will accumulate in the brain, contributing to neurodevelopmental disorders in the young, and dementia (Alzheimer’s) in the elderly. An increased level of mercury in the body has also been associated with aggression and mood disorders.

It is advisable to avoid mercury whenever you can, whether it is present in food, a vaccine or the environment (air, water, etc.). While many substances in our world, such as tuna fish, contain low levels of mercury, most are not classified as hazardous waste. Unused vaccines with a preservative level of Thimerosal, however, are considered hazardous waste because of their high mercury content. If not injected into patients, discarded vials of these mercury-preserved vaccines, therefore, must be disposed of in steel drums, by law.

In contrast, a can of tuna fish is not under this same stipulation, and more importantly, if it were, you wouldn’t eat it, would you?
http://traceamounts.com/ten-lies-told-about-mercury-in-vaccines/

Zippyjuan
10-16-2017, 12:11 PM
Thimerisol is not used in vaccines for children. More bad science.

donnay
10-16-2017, 12:15 PM
Thimerisol is not used in vaccines for children. More bad science.

Prove it.

donnay
10-16-2017, 12:45 PM
Big Pharma is among the nation’s largest political donors, giving $31 million last year to national political candidates. It spends more on political lobbying than any other industry, $3.0 billion from 1998 to 2014—double the amount spent by oil and gas and four times as much as defense and aerospace lobbyists. By February, state legislators in 36 states were pushing through over one hundred new laws to end philosophical and religious vaccine exemptions. Many of those state lawmakers are also on the industry payroll. You can see how much money bill sponsors from your state took from Big Pharma on http://www.maplight.org

Normally plaintiffs’ tort lawyers would provide a powerful check and balance to keep vaccines safe and effective and regulators and policymakers honest. But Pharma’s dirty money has bought the industry immunity from lawsuits for vaccine injury no matter how dangerous the product. An obliging Congress disposed of the Seventh Amendment right to jury trial, making it impossible for vaccine-injured plaintiffs to sue pharmaceutical companies for selling unsafe vaccines. That’s right! No Class Actions. No discovery. No depositions and little financial incentive for the industry to make vaccines safer.

Vaccine industry money has neutralized virtually all of the checks and balances that once stood between a rapacious pharmaceutical industry and our children. With the re- search, regulatory, and policymaking agencies captured, the courts closed to the public, the lawyers disarmed, the politicians on retainer and the media subverted, there is no one left to stand between a greedy industry and vulnerable children, except parents. Now Big Pharma’s game plan is to remove parental informed consent rights from that equation and force vaccine hesitant parents to inject their children with potentially risky vaccines that the Supreme Court has called “unavoidably unsafe.”

Ending exemptions is premature until we have a functioning regulatory agency and a transparent process. The best way to insure full vaccine coverage is for the vaccine program to win back public trust by ending its corrupt financial ties with a profit-making industry.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/mercury-and-vaccines/5571134

angelatc
10-16-2017, 02:02 PM
Ending exemptions is premature until we have a functioning regulatory agency and a transparent process. The best way to insure full vaccine coverage is for the vaccine program to win back public trust by ending its corrupt financial ties with a profit-making industry.

So once medicine is socialized, it will be ok for the government to mandate it.

More anti-capitalist stuff from DonnaY.

Lamp
10-16-2017, 02:20 PM
Could you at least get rid of the caps?

Zippyjuan
10-16-2017, 04:46 PM
Prove it.

https://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/UCM096228

donnay
10-16-2017, 04:48 PM
So once medicine is socialized, it will be ok for the government to mandate it.

More anti-capitalist stuff from DonnaY.

Yeah right. :rolleyes: You neglected to read the above paragraph-- I will post it again:


Vaccine industry money has neutralized virtually all of the checks and balances that once stood between a rapacious pharmaceutical industry and our children. With the re- search, regulatory, and policymaking agencies captured, the courts closed to the public, the lawyers disarmed, the politicians on retainer and the media subverted, there is no one left to stand between a greedy industry and vulnerable children, except parents. Now Big Pharma’s game plan is to remove parental informed consent rights from that equation and force vaccine hesitant parents to inject their children with potentially risky vaccines that the Supreme Court has called “unavoidably unsafe.”

donnay
10-16-2017, 04:49 PM
Could you at least get rid of the caps?

Tried but it wouldn't work.

donnay
10-16-2017, 04:52 PM
https://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/UCM096228

Pffft. That isn't proof.

Zippyjuan
10-16-2017, 05:01 PM
Pffft. That isn't proof.

Let's see your proof. How much thimerisol is in vaccines intended for children (the flu vaccine does come in versions with and without thimerisol and is not considered a "kids vaccine") used in the United States? Show us a list of which ones have how much.

donnay
10-16-2017, 05:56 PM
Let's see your proof. How much thimerisol is in vaccines intended for children (the flu vaccine does come in versions with and without thimerisol and is not considered a "kids vaccine") used in the United States? Show us a list of which ones have how much.



Truth About Thimerosal in Vaccines

Thimerosal is a mercury-containing organic compound (i.e., a preservative). It serves as an antiseptic and antifungal agent in select vaccines, especially the flu vaccine in the US. But is thimerosal safe for humans to inject into their bodies? As a father of four and chemist, I wondered about this over 15 years ago when we had our first child…

What the FDA says about Thimerosal

The Centers of Disease Control (CDC) and the FDA insists that thimerosal is safe when used in doses found in vaccines. (1) Taking a pragmatic approach over a scientific one, the status quo insists, “The active form of mercury [thimerosal] in vaccines is different than that found in contaminated fish,” and “only in trace amounts.”

True. But both forms of mercury are toxic. (2)

These government agencies also parrot The American Academy of Pediatrics who chirp, “The continued benefits of thimerosal use in vaccine manufacturing clearly outweigh any perceived risks.” (3)

But, you can’t make informed decisions about thimerosal based on these ridiculous statements. Parents who do are in for a wake-up call. A lifetime of unimaginable pain, suffering, isolation, and madness are lurking nearby for those who choose to play roulette with the silvery sludge.

What’s Being Hidden about Thimerosal

The last entity to fund a thimerosal study in the United States was Eli Lilly, back in 1929. They’re not even a health agency; they’re a pharmaceutical drug company. That hardly offers proof of safety and efficacy. And, their test churned out horrific results, showing that 100% of the kids jabbed with trace amounts of Merthiolate — the trade name for thimerosal — died from meningitis. How could that possibly be considered safe? Meanwhile, the Pharma-funded authors (using ghostwriting) still concluded that there was no causal association between mercury in vaccines and harm. (4) Future court documents revealed, “Upon closer inspection, however, it is apparent that Lilly Scientists, deliberately withheld facts and, in doing so manipulated and distorted their conclusions, leading to corruption of published scientific literature concerning thimerosal.”

In time, the devastating effects could no longer be ignored. On January 5, 1982, the FDA published its notice of proposed rule-making regarding thimerosal. Their scientific panel’s opinions and recommendations were the culmination of five years of research concerning the potential hazards and safety of thimerosal. (5) Published in the Federal Register, the panel concluded:

“At the cellular level, thimerosal has been found to be more toxic for human epithelial cells in vitro than mercuric chloride, mercuric nitrate, and merbromim (mercurochrome).”

“Exhibit 34 (Exhibit ELI-512). The FDA specifically found that thimerosal was significantly more toxic for living tissue than it was for the bacteria it was supposed to kill.”

“It was found to be 35.3 times more toxic for embryonic chick heart tissue than for staphylococcus aureus [top killer in hospitals today].”

“The Panel concludes that thimerosal is not safe for [over-the-counter] topical use because of its potential for cell damage if applied to broken skin and its allergy potential.”

The FDA’s findings clearly should have settled the matter — that thimerosal is not safe for humans, let alone children, to use.

How Much Thimerosal Are Kids Getting?

In 2001 the pharmaceutical industry promised removal of thimerosal from vaccines. Sadly, it’s still lurking in select shots. The irony of promising to remove a “safe” preservative is proof that thimerosal is risky. If you need more, a little math goes a long way.

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)’s acceptable dose for mercury is 0.1 microgram per kilogram of body weight, per day. Running simple conversions, this means a 10-pound baby who gets jabbed with a thimerosal-rich vaccine receives an insurmountable 55 times the safe upper limit for mercury exposure. For an adult giving the same injection, that’d be four times the safe supper limit!

Pleading for thimerosal removal, Congressman Dan Burton wrote to the Secretary of Health and Human Services to make his case. He insisted, “During a review required by the Food and Drug Modernization Act, it was learned that infants receive more mercury [from thimerosal] in the first six months of life than is considered safe according to federal guidelines. For a twelve-to-fourteen month old child receiving vaccines on the Universal Childhood Immunization Schedule as they are typically delivered (four to six shots in one doctor visit), they may receive forty or more times the amount of mercury than is considered safe according to Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) guidelines. The EPA guidelines were confirmed to be accurate through an independent evaluation conducted by the National Research Council (NRC).”

If you read the vaccine package inserts, the danger of thimerosal becomes even more apparent. The DPT (diphtheria, pertussis, and tetanus) vaccine maker Sanofi Pasteur warned, “A review by the Institute of Medicine (IOM) found evidence for a causal relation between tetanus toxoid and both brachial neuritis and Guillain-Barré syndrome [pain and loss of nerve and motor function].”

Makers of the Tripedia vaccine for DTaP (which is rich in thimerosal) stated, “The vaccine is formulated without preservatives, but contains a trace amount of thimerosal [(mercury derivative), (≤0.3 µg mercury/dose)] from the manufacturing process.”

Certain negative outcomes are so frequent that the manufacturer had to list them in a public warning:

• Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS)
• Anaphylactic reaction
• Cellulitis (a bacterial skin infection)
• Autism
• Convulsion/Seizures
• Brain dysfunction
• Low muscle tone and strength
• Nerve damage
• Hyperventilation/apnea

In his extremely well-researched book Thimerosal: Let The Science Speak: The Evidence Supporting the Immediate Removal of Mercury—a Known Neurotoxin—from Vaccines, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. showed there’s more global scientific muscle power than what it took to build the space station proving that thimerosal is ruining the health of our nation. And yet, with unconstrained malice and well-calculated schemes, Pharma continues to profit by selling cheaper, mercury-rich vaccines in 40 other countries. Once the country’s citizens are riddled with shots, research shows that continents like Africa, as well as citizens living by the Amazon river, are forever scarred from neurological damage.

References

1. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Thimerosal in Vaccines. October 27, 2015. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/thimerosal/

2. Kathleen Stratton, Alicia Gable, and Marie C. McCormick, Editors, Immunization Safety Review Committee, Board on Health Promotion and Disease Prevention. Immunization Safety Review: Thimerosal – Containing Vaccines and Neurodevelopmental Disorders. ISBN: 0-309-56573-1, 136 pages, 6 x 9, (2001)

3. AAP (American Academy of Pediatrics). 1999. Thimerosal in vaccines—An interim report to clinicians. American Academy of Pediatrics. Committee on Infectious Diseases and Committee on Environmental Health. Pediatrics 104(3 Pt 1):570–574.

4. Madison, James H. (1989). Eli Lilly: A Life, 1885–1977. Indianapolis: Indiana Historical Society. p. 65. ISBN 0-87195-047-2.

Powell HM, Jamieson WA. Merthiolate as a Germicide. American Journal of Hygiene 1931;13:296-310.

5. FDA Federal Register. PLAINTIFFS’ RESPONSE TO ELI LILLY AND COMPANY’S SUPPLEMENTAL MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT.
https://thepeopleschemist.com/what-is-thimerosal/

Zippyjuan
10-16-2017, 11:58 PM
https://thepeopleschemist.com/what-is-thimerosal/

Does not say which if any vaccines for children in the US have thimerisol in them. Try again.

Or was this the only one? If this is your proof, it supports what I said.


Makers of the Tripedia vaccine for DTaP stated, “The vaccine is formulated without preservatives, but contains a trace amount of thimerosal [(mercury derivative), (≤0.3 µg mercury/dose)] from the manufacturing process.”

(Tripedia was discontinued in 2013). https://vaxopedia.org/2016/10/26/discontinued-vaccines/


Through mergers, Sanofi Pasteur, Ltd. ended up with two DTaP vaccines. They had their own Daptacel, but also had Tripedia, a vaccine they acquired from Pasteur Merieux. They ended up discontinuing Tripedia.

donnay
10-17-2017, 08:02 AM
Does not say which if any vaccines for children in the US have thimerisol in them. Try again.

Or was this the only one? If this is your proof, it supports what I said.



(Tripedia was discontinued in 2013). https://vaxopedia.org/2016/10/26/discontinued-vaccines/


Yes they discontinued that vaccine, but how long did they continue to distribute the vaccine until supplies were depleted? How many children received it and how many were harmed by it? We will probably never know because they have help covering it up.

Zippyjuan
10-17-2017, 02:01 PM
Yes they discontinued that vaccine, but how long did they continue to distribute the vaccine until supplies were depleted? How many children received it and how many were harmed by it? We will probably never know because they have help covering it up.

I see. You could not find kids vaccines used in the US with thimerisol in them. Thanks for looking.

So how much is a "trace"? A few molecules. That is not going to harm anybody or anything.


a trace amount of thimerosal [(mercury derivative), (≤0.3 µg mercury/dose)] from the manufacturing process.”

Since thimerisol is 50% mercury, that means less than one microgram in the entire vaccine. A vaccine which does use thimerisol usually has 25 micrograms (which is still a very small amount).

donnay
10-17-2017, 03:29 PM
Here is a good start to research: https://worldmercuryproject.org/thimerosal-history/research-critiques/

DamianTV
10-18-2017, 02:04 AM
I see. You could not find kids vaccines used in the US with thimerisol in them. Thanks for looking.

So how much is a "trace"? A few molecules. That is not going to harm anybody or anything.



Since thimerisol is 50% mercury, that means less than one microgram in the entire vaccine. A vaccine which does use thimerisol usually has 25 micrograms (which is still a very small amount).

Go try a nice tasty bowl of Botulinum Toxin Type H. Only 1 ng (nanogram) will kill you. That volume is smaller than ONE red blood cell. Its also the deadliest known substance...

Created4
10-18-2017, 09:09 AM
I see. You could not find kids vaccines used in the US with thimerisol in them. Thanks for looking.

So how much is a "trace"? A few molecules. That is not going to harm anybody or anything.



Since thimerisol is 50% mercury, that means less than one microgram in the entire vaccine. A vaccine which does use thimerisol usually has 25 micrograms (which is still a very small amount).

Zippy again agreeing with the point that trace amounts of mercury are found in vaccines for children. His tired old argument is always the same: small amounts do not harm. A position that of course cannot be proven scientifically. And just because the FDA says vaccines are available for kids without thimerosal proves nothing, other than the fact that some kids are obviously still getting vaccines with thimerosal.

Zippyjuan
10-18-2017, 11:53 AM
Zippy again agreeing with the point that trace amounts of mercury are found in vaccines for children. His tired old argument is always the same: small amounts do not harm. A position that of course cannot be proven scientifically. And just because the FDA says vaccines are available for kids without thimerosal proves nothing, other than the fact that some kids are obviously still getting vaccines with thimerosal.

One vaccine had trace amounts (less than one microgram in the entire vaccine- a few molecules). That is practically non-existent.

Zippyjuan
10-18-2017, 11:55 AM
Go try a nice tasty bowl of Botulinum Toxin Type H. Only 1 ng (nanogram) will kill you. That volume is smaller than ONE red blood cell. Its also the deadliest known substance...

So organic mercury is more toxic than botulinum toxin H? What is the fatal (or even harmful) exposure level for ethyl mercury?

donnay
10-18-2017, 12:17 PM
One vaccine had trace amounts (less than one microgram in the entire vaccine). That is practically non-existent.

You seem to forget this point that has been brought up to you over and over and over and over and over again. 0-5 Forty-nine doses!

Zippyjuan
10-18-2017, 12:27 PM
You seem to forget this point that has been brought up to you over and over and over and over and over again. 0-5 Forty-nine doses!

Forty nine doses of DTaP vaccine?

donnay
10-18-2017, 12:53 PM
Forty nine doses of DTaP vaccine?

Of vaccines, DTaP included. And you knew that because it has been brought to your attention over and over and over and over again.

Zippyjuan
10-18-2017, 01:01 PM
Of vaccines, DTaP included. And you knew that because it has been brought to your attention over and over and over and over again.

And how much thimerisol is in those other 49 vaccines? You still have not shown any which do. 49 times zero is still zero. (accepting your claim that kids get 49 vaccines- I haven't double checked that). Your links since I asked have only found one which had a few molecules left in it from the process of making it.

Breast milk on the other hand does have mercury and toxins in it. Maybe you should be campaigning to get rid of it. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earth-talks-breast-feeding/

Are kids getting mercury poisoning from their mothers? Ban the breast!

Created4
10-18-2017, 01:43 PM
Breast milk on the other hand does have mercury and toxins in it.

Which goes through the baby's digestive system where the toxins can be filtered out through kidneys, liver, etc. This has been brought up many times here.

Where else in nature are toxins injected directly into the muscle, bypassing the body's natural immune system? Even the diseases the vaccines are supposedly protecting enter the body through normal means where the body has a change to fight them and filter them out, such as breathing, ingesting, etc.

So for example, if a child contracts chicken pox naturally, through contact with the disease, the body's own immune system will compensate and that person will not get chicken pox again.

Not so with the vaccine. Those vaccinated could still get it, and the vaccine could wear off requiring a booster shot. Not to mention the side effects from the toxins.

Zippy is just a broken record playing the same old song over and over again....

Zippyjuan
10-18-2017, 01:49 PM
Which goes through the baby's digestive system where the toxins can be filtered out through kidneys, liver, etc. This has been brought up many times here.

The mercury in some flu vaccines (ethyl mercury) has a half life in the body of about seven days (meaning the body has gotten rid of it in about a week). It does not bioaccumulate. That has been brought up many times here. Methyl mercury (the kind in breast milk) has a half life of a month meaning it can accumulate more. The kid is drinking that breast milk every day. They are not getting vaccines (which don't have that ethyl mercury in it anymore) every day. Breasts are more toxic.

donnay
10-18-2017, 03:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85tgwh3HpsM


Methyl mercury targets and kills neurons in specific areas of the nervous system including the: Visual cortex, Cerebellum and Dorsal root ganglia.

(...)

Methylmercury is especially dangerous to developing babies. This form of mercury is highly toxic and can cross the placenta and the blood-brain barrier. Mercury is concentrated in the brain of the developing fetus because the metal is absorbed quickly and is not excreted efficiently. Children exposed to mercury may be born with symptoms resembling cerebral palsy, spasticity and other movement abnormalities, convulsions, visual problems and abnormal reflexes. The brains of children who have died as a result of mercury poisoning show neuron loss in the cerebellum and throughout the cerebral cortex. Mercury also appears to affect brain development by preventing neurons from finding their appropriate place in the brain.

Zippyjuan
10-18-2017, 04:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85tgwh3HpsM

Methyl mercury is not the same as ethyl mercury which is in a couple of vaccines. Is there a link between mercury in vaccines and autism? If so, why didn't autism rates drop when mercury was removed from kid's vaccines? If there is a link, it should have dropped significantly. (yeah, this has been said probably hundreds of times here).

donnay
10-18-2017, 04:29 PM
Methyl mercury is not the same as ethyl mercury which is in a couple of vaccines. Is there a link between mercury in vaccines and autism? If so, why didn't autism rates drop when mercury was removed from kid's vaccines? If there is a link, it should have dropped significantly. (yeah, this has been said probably hundreds of times here).

Yes, I am well aware of that just pointing out how a child is bombard with mercury from womb to tomb. The pressures on pregnant mother's to get the flu vaccine is beyond belief.

Excerpts from the article I posted on the first page:


Thimerosal is a poison, neurotoxin, cancer-causer, and can interrupt the immune system and the normal development of an unborn baby or a child. Thimerosal is so toxic that putting it on your skin is illegal. However, the government not only allows but also defends its injection into the population, especially pregnant women and newborn children, as part of influenza vaccines currently recommended by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

(...)

After “realizing” the amount of mercury in the childhood vaccination schedule recommended by the CDC exceeded all national and global maximum safety limits, the American Academy of Pediatrics and the United States Public Health Service called for the immediate removal of Thimerosal from all vaccines on July 7, 1999.

By 2003, the vaccine manufacturers had begun to react to the 1999 call by lowering the mercury content in many of the Thimerosal-preserved early childhood vaccines. However, in April of 2002, the CDC began recommending that pregnant women and very young children get annual Thimerosal-preserved flu shots. The result was a ‘shell game’ which has caused widespread confusion in the public because of press reports declaring, “Since (select a year between 1999 and the present), mercury has been removed from all recommended vaccines for children except for some flu shots.”

Astoundingly, the total level of mercury exposure, if a child receives all the possible CDC-recommended vaccinations that are still Thimerosal preserved, from 6 months to 18 years of age, has actually increased. Significantly, if you put the amount of mercury added to the immunization schedule as a result of the CDC-recommended seasonal and (in 2009) H1N1 flu shots** on one side of a scale, and the amount of mercury that was subtracted from that schedule by reformulating early childhood vaccines without Thimerosal on the other side, the total amount of mercury added far outweighs the amount of mercury subtracted. In addition, today most tetanus shots and the multi-dose Sanofi Menomune® vaccine that are approved by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) still contain 25-micrograms-a-dose mercury.

Currently, the actions taken by the vaccine manufacturers, the FDA and the CDC have increased the possible maximum childhood exposure to mercury from vaccines to twice the level that triggered the 1999 call to remove mercury from all vaccines as soon as possible! Also, new vaccine formulations with 25 micrograms of mercury per 0.5-mL dose are still being approved by the FDA for administration to pregnant women and children.

**Most doses of these flu vaccines are Thimerosal-preserved.

(...)

Thimerosal has never undergone even one modern safety test. It was developed in 1927 and patented by Eli Lilly in 1928. It was first tested on small animals and killed a variety of mice, rabbits and chicks. After the animals died from exposure to Thimerosal, the decision was made to administer it to 22 patients suffering from bacterial meningitis during an epidemic in Indianapolis, Indiana in 1929.

Of the 22 persons given Thimerosal, all died, most within a day or two of administration. The doctor overseeing the trial, on stipend from Eli Lilly, declared that the patients had all died of meningitis and that Thimerosal was not observed to have caused any problem when administered to his patients. With that declaration, and a subsequent one by Eli Lilly staff that Thimerosal has a low order of toxicity for man, even though it killed small animals, Thimerosal was introduced into the drug supply. Yet, despite warnings in the published scientific literature that Thimerosal was toxic, and despite opposition to its use in every decade since, Thimerosal has remained in the drug supply.

The first protest on record against this highly toxic mercury compound was made in 1935 by the Pittman Moore Company which declared that, after testing, it found Thimerosal “was unsuitable as a preservative in serum intended for use in dogs…”

The FDA, passive with regard to safety testing, has never provided the results of appropriate toxicological tests on Thimerosal. Factually, the vaccine makers who use Thimerosal as a preservative are required by law to conduct and submit the results of such safety tests to the FDA before the FDA can legally approve a vaccine. Yet, the FDA has yet to produce even one of these vaccine maker’s toxicity studies, demonstrating Thimerosal safe for administration to humans, despite the fact that these documents have been sought in a court of law.


You can read more: http://traceamounts.com/ten-lies-told-about-mercury-in-vaccines/

Zippyjuan
10-18-2017, 04:58 PM
The statistics for thimerisol exposure are from prior to thimerisol being removed from childhood vaccines. Thimerisol in vaccines is not harming kids because it isn't there. (yes, some formulations of the flu vaccine do still use it- but thimerisol free versions are also available). You are afraid of a ghost.

donnay
10-18-2017, 05:41 PM
The statistics for thimerisol exposure are from prior to thimerisol being removed from childhood vaccines. Thimerisol in vaccines is not harming kids because it isn't there. (yes, some formulations of the flu vaccine do still use it- but thimerisol free versions are also available). You are afraid of a ghost.

You obviously have trouble reading. You know it could be a vaccine injury.

Zippyjuan
10-18-2017, 05:47 PM
and the multi-dose Sanofi Menomune® vaccine

Another discontinued vaccine.


In addition, today most tetanus shots and the multi-dose Sanofi Menomune® vaccine that are approved by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) still contain 25-micrograms-a-dose mercury.

Flu vaccines are not considered kids vaccines though they can be given to kids and are available in formulations with and without thimerisol. A few molecules may remain in the tetanus vaccine- not 25 micrograms- and Menomune is discontinued.

How much mercury is left? Might check out this list from 2001: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK223726/

donnay
10-18-2017, 06:02 PM
Another discontinued vaccine.



Flu vaccines are not considered kids vaccines though they can be given to kids and are available in formulations with and without thimerisol. A few molecules may remain in the tetanus vaccine- not 25 micrograms- and Menomune is discontinued.

Flu vaccines and the Tdap are being pushed on pregnant women!

Zippyjuan
10-18-2017, 06:11 PM
Flu vaccines and the Tdap are being pushed on pregnant women!

Tdap has less than one half of one microgram of mercury per dose (a few molecules) and the flu vaccine is available without thimerisol. No problem.

donnay
10-18-2017, 06:35 PM
Tdap has less than one half of one microgram of mercury per dose (a few molecules) and the flu vaccine is available without thimerisol. No problem.


http://www.fluad.com/Common/docs/FLUAD_Package_Insert.pdf
https://www.gsksource.com/pharma/content/dam/GlaxoSmithKline/US/en/Prescribing_Information/Fluarix_Quadrivalent/pdf/FLUARIX-QUADRIVALENT.PDF
https://www.flublok.com/media/1150/trivalent-pi-clean.pdf
https://www.flublok.com/media/1158/quadrivalent-pi-clean-17mar2017.pdf
http://flu.seqirus.com/files/us_package_insert_flucelvax.pdf
https://www.gsksource.com/pharma/content/dam/GlaxoSmithKline/US/en/Prescribing_Information/Flulaval_Quadrivalent/pdf/FLULAVAL-QUADRIVALENT.PDF
http://labeling.seqirus.com/PI/US//Fluvirin/EN/Fluvirin-Prescribing-Information.pdf
https://www.vaccineshoppe.com/image.cfm?doc_id=13810&image_type=product_pdf
https://www.fda.gov/downloads/biologicsbloodvaccines/vaccines/approvedproducts/ucm263239.pdf
https://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM518295.pdf

Zippyjuan
10-18-2017, 07:50 PM
http://www.fluad.com/Common/docs/FLUAD_Package_Insert.pdf
https://www.gsksource.com/pharma/content/dam/GlaxoSmithKline/US/en/Prescribing_Information/Fluarix_Quadrivalent/pdf/FLUARIX-QUADRIVALENT.PDF
https://www.flublok.com/media/1150/trivalent-pi-clean.pdf
https://www.flublok.com/media/1158/quadrivalent-pi-clean-17mar2017.pdf
http://flu.seqirus.com/files/us_package_insert_flucelvax.pdf
https://www.gsksource.com/pharma/content/dam/GlaxoSmithKline/US/en/Prescribing_Information/Flulaval_Quadrivalent/pdf/FLULAVAL-QUADRIVALENT.PDF
http://labeling.seqirus.com/PI/US//Fluvirin/EN/Fluvirin-Prescribing-Information.pdf
https://www.vaccineshoppe.com/image.cfm?doc_id=13810&image_type=product_pdf
https://www.fda.gov/downloads/biologicsbloodvaccines/vaccines/approvedproducts/ucm263239.pdf
https://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM518295.pdf

Yep, some flu vaccines do have thimerisol in them- exactly as I have said. And they are also available in thimerisol free versions. Ask your doctor.

https://universityhealthnews.com/daily/aging-independence/8-mercury-free-flu-shot-options/


Thimerosal-Free Vaccines
These vaccines do not contain thimerosal:

Afluria Trivalent, by Seqiris; 0.5 mL single-dose prefilled syringe; age range 9+ years
Fluad Trivalent, by Seqiris; 0.5 mL single-dose prefilled syringe; age range 65+ years
Fluzone High-Dose Trivalent, by Sanofi Pasteur; 0.5 mL single-dose prefilled needle-less syringe; age range 65+ years
Fluzone Quadrivalent Pediatric, by Sanofi Pasteur; 0.25 mL single-dose prefilled syringe; age range 6-36 months
Fluzone Quadrivalent, by Sanofi Pasteur; 0.5 mL single-dose prefilled syringe, and 0.5 mL single-dose vial; age range 36+ months
Fluarix Quadrivalent, by GlaxoSmithKline; 0.5 mL single-dose prefilled syringe; age range 3+ years
Flucelvax Quadrivalent, by Seqiris; 0.5mL single-dose prefilled syringe; age range 4+ years
Afluria Quadrivalent, by Seqiris; 0.5 mL single-dose prefilled syringe; age range 18+ years
Fluzone Intradermal Quadrivalent, by Sanofi Pasteur; 0.1 mL single-dose pre-filled micro-injection system; age range 18 to 64 years

AZJoe
10-18-2017, 08:38 PM
Tdap has less than one half of one microgram of mercury per dose (a few molecules) and the flu vaccine is available without thimerisol. No problem.

According to the FDA (https://www.fda.gov/biologicsbloodvaccines/safetyavailability/vaccinesafety/ucm096228), a .5 ml dose of vaccine contains 25 micrograms of mercury.
There are 3x10^21 molecules of mercury per gram.
25 micrograms then equals 7.5 x 10^15 molecules of mercury. Just a tiny tad more than "a few molecules".

Zippyjuan
10-18-2017, 09:59 PM
According to the FDA (https://www.fda.gov/biologicsbloodvaccines/safetyavailability/vaccinesafety/ucm096228), a .5 ml dose of vaccine contains 25 micrograms of mercury.
There are 3x10^21 molecules of mercury per gram.
25 microgams then equals 7.5 x 10^15 molecules of mercury. Just a tiny tad more than "a few molecules".

According to the FDA, the tetanus containing vaccine only has "less than" one half of a microgram of mercury- not 25. The flu vaccine does have 25 micrograms. Divide by at least 500. A very insignificant amount- one part per million. But thanks for the math class.

"Traces may remain from the manufacturing process".

donnay
10-19-2017, 06:01 AM
The study meticulously details identical toxicity pathways shared by both forms of mercury:

Both ethyl and methyl mercury cause DNA damage or impair DNA synthesis (Burke et al. 2006; Sharpe et al. 2012; Wu et al. 2008).

Both cause oxidative stress/creation of reactive oxygen species (Dreiem and Seegal 2007; Garg and Chang 2006; Myhre et al. 2003; Sharpe et al. 2012; Yin et al. 2007).

Both decrease glutathione activity, thus providing less protection from the oxidative stress caused by MeHg and EtHg (Carocci et al. 2014; Ndountse and Chan (2008); Choi et al. 1996; Franco et al. 2006; Mori et al. 2007; Muller et al. 2001; Ndountse and Chan 2008; Wu et al. 2008).

Both cause effects on cell division by damaging the spindle apparatus during mitosis (Burke et al. 2006; Castoldi et al. 2000; Gribble et al. 2005; Kim et al. 2007; Ou et al. 1999b; Machaty et al. 1999; Rodier et al. 1984).

Both MeHg and EtHg bind to the amino acid cysteine (Clarkson 1995; Wu et al. 2008).

Both MeHg and EtHg strongly inhibit the reacylation of arachidonic acid, thus inhibiting the reincorporation of this fatty acid into membrane phospholipids (Shanker et al. 2002; Verity et al. 1994; Zarini et al. 2006).

Both cause an increase in NOS, causing an overproduction of NO (Chen et al. 2003; Chuu et al. 2001; Shinyashiki et al. 1998).

Both disrupt glutamate homeostasis (Farina et al. 2003a, b; Manfroi et al. 2004; Mutkus et al. 2005; Yin et al. 2007).

Both alter intracellular calcium homeostasis (Elferink 1999; Hare et al. 1993;Kang et al. 2006; Limke et al. 2004b; Machaty et al. 1999; Marty and Atchison1997; Minnema et al. 1987; Peng et al. 2002; Sayers et al. 1993; Sirois and Atchison, 2000; Szalai et al. 1999; Tornquist et al. 1999; Zarini et al. 2006).

Both cause effects on receptor binding/neurotransmitter release involving one or more transmitters (Basu et al. 2008; Coccini et al. 2000; Cooper et al. 2003; Fonfria et al. 2001; Ida-Eto et al. 2011; Ndountse and Chan 2008; Yuan and Atchison 2003).

"This study is a nuclear bomb detonating over the CDC," Boyd Haley, chairman emeritus of the University of Kentucky Chemistry Department, said. "It should be getting international, front page headlines."
https://www.ecowatch.com/cdc-mercury-vaccines-kennedy-2226257805.html

AZJoe
10-19-2017, 10:08 AM
According to the FDA, the tetanus containing vaccine only has "less than" one half of a microgram of mercury- not 25. The flu vaccine does have 25 micrograms. Divide by at least 500. A very insignificant amount- one part per million. But thanks for the math class.

25 micrograms to .5 micrograms is a divide by 50, not 500. Even at .5 micrograms, that equal 1.5 x 10^14 molecules of mercury for Tdap ( or 150,000,000,000,000 molecules). That is a tiny amount, but still a far cry away from just "a few molecules" .

But of course this is a red herring by Zip because the OP pertains to fraudulent research used by the CDC to justify the concentrations in mercury in the prior vaccines, not current.
The report in the OP refers to the fraudulent studies the CDC used to previously tout the injection of mercury into the body as safe. Those studies pertained to the prior vaccines, not the current ones. At the time of that fraudulent research, Tdap vaccines contained at least 25 micrograms of mercury per dose. At the scheduled three doses during infancy that was 75 micrograms of mercury injected during infancy just from Tdap vaccines alone.

donnay
10-19-2017, 04:07 PM
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to AZJoe again.

Created4
10-21-2017, 10:09 AM
According to the FDA, the tetanus containing vaccine only has "less than" one half of a microgram of mercury- not 25. The flu vaccine does have 25 micrograms. Divide by at least 500. A very insignificant amount- one part per million. But thanks for the math class.

"Traces may remain from the manufacturing process".

Just so this is clear to anyone reading this thread, Zippy agrees childhood vaccines contain mercury, and the FDA also admits that "Traces may remain from the manufacturing process" which is what everyone here is saying.

His argument that small amounts are not harmful is his opinion and belief, because there are no scientific studies proving his claim.

Zippyjuan
10-21-2017, 11:37 AM
Just so this is clear to anyone reading this thread, Zippy agrees childhood vaccines contain mercury, and the FDA also admits that "Traces may remain from the manufacturing process" which is what everyone here is saying.

His argument that small amounts are not harmful is his opinion and belief, because there are no scientific studies proving his claim.

Wrong. Childhood vaccines do not contain mercury. There may be a tiny amount left in one vaccine from the manufacturing process because removing every single molecule is impossible. The amount is completely insignificant- less than one half of a microgram in a vaccine. That is one part per million of the vaccine itself.


His argument that small amounts are not harmful is his opinion and belief, because there are no scientific studies proving his claim.

How much ethyl mercury causes harm? Do you have studies showing the amount needed to harm a human?

angelatc
10-21-2017, 12:17 PM
Wrong. Childhood vaccines do not contain mercury. ?

Which has been pointed out over and over and over. The fact that they keep saying it despite it being demonstrably false is why i consider them trolls and not contributors. They should be banned as such. Their lies do nothing to advance liberty.

Created4
10-21-2017, 01:58 PM
Wrong....There may be a tiny amount left in one vaccine from the manufacturing process because removing every single molecule is impossible.
No, not wrong, correct! You proved the point yourself. Tiny amounts are left - that is the only point I am making, and you agreed.


Do you have studies showing the amount needed to harm a human?

The burden of proof is on you, since you are making that argument, not me. If you claim the amount is insignificant and does not harm, YOU have to prove that, and obviously you cannot since there are no scientific studies proving that. It is 100% a statement of belief....

Created4
10-21-2017, 03:19 PM
So Angela negative repped me (first one I have received in 10 years on the forums) and wrote:


Trolling with science free posts .

So Angela, trace amounts of mercury can still be left in childhood vaccines, as both the FDA has admitted, and Zippy has as well in his quoting the FDA.

How is this "anti science"?

Do you have some science showing trace amounts of mercury do not cause harm?

Zippyjuan
10-21-2017, 03:50 PM
No, not wrong, correct! You proved the point yourself. Tiny amounts are left - that is the only point I am making, and you agreed.



.

Your statement was misleading. You said "children's vaccines" plural and implied I said it was in all childhood vaccines. It isn't. There is only one and that has an insignificant amount (less than one half of a microgram- and even the previous amount of 25 micrograms was an insignificant amount- this is one fiftieth of that).


Zippy agrees childhood vaccines contain mercury,

Zippy does not agree with that statement.


The burden of proof is on you, since you are making that argument, not me. If you claim the amount is insignificant and does not harm, YOU have to prove that, and obviously you cannot since there are no scientific studies proving that. It is 100% a statement of belief...

I cannot prove a negative. The burden is on you to show that the amount of ethyl mercury necessary to cause harm.

angelatc
10-21-2017, 03:56 PM
Do you have some science showing trace amounts of mercury do not cause harm?

You should be banned for trolling. This has been addressed ad nauseam.

You're the one making the claim that the adjuvants cause harm, therefore it is up to you to prove it's true. (hint: It isn't true, so you can't prove it.)

angelatc
10-21-2017, 03:57 PM
So Angela negative repped me (first one I have received in 10 years on the forums

Don't dish them out of you can't take them.

donnay
10-22-2017, 09:10 AM
You should be banned for trolling. This has been addressed ad nauseam.

You're the one making the claim that the adjuvants cause harm, therefore it is up to you to prove it's true. (hint: It isn't true, so you can't prove it.)

Pot meet kettle.

Adjuvants in Vaccines
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/vaccinations/adjuvants-in-vaccines/

Want Some Proof About Vaccine Adjuvants?
https://vactruth.com/2011/11/02/want-some-proof-about-vaccine-adjuvants/

NEW STUDY LINKS ALUMINUM ADJUVANT VIA HPV VACCINE TO NEUROINFLAMMATION & AUTOIMMUNE REACTION
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2017/02/10/new-study-finds-the-hpv-vaccine-can-trigger-neuroinflammation-autoimmune-reactions-leading-to-behavioural-changes/

angelatc
10-22-2017, 09:55 AM
Pot meet kettle.

Adjuvants in Vaccines
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/vaccinations/adjuvants-in-vaccines/

Want Some Proof About Vaccine Adjuvants?
https://vactruth.com/2011/11/02/want-some-proof-about-vaccine-adjuvants/

NEW STUDY LINKS ALUMINUM ADJUVANT VIA HPV VACCINE TO NEUROINFLAMMATION & AUTOIMMUNE REACTION
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2017/02/10/new-study-finds-the-hpv-vaccine-can-trigger-neuroinflammation-autoimmune-reactions-leading-to-behavioural-changes/

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1. The first site is a blog, not a study.

2. The second site is blog post about veterinary studies of adjuvants not actually in human vaccines.

3. The link you provided literally states "The paper was also said to have used a seriously flawed methodology and that the claims made were unjustified. " And goes on to discuss the eventual retraction. So it was garbage, and that's according to your very source.

SO by all means, troll again by ignoring what I just posted and post a flurry of other links. Or screech how every doctor who believes in science is part of same conspiracy. God knows why the mods allow this crap. It has nothing to do with politics, and the bullshit drives sane people away.

Created4
10-22-2017, 10:18 AM
You should be banned for trolling. This has been addressed ad nauseam.

You're the one making the claim that the adjuvants cause harm, therefore it is up to you to prove it's true. (hint: It isn't true, so you can't prove it.)

Nope, I never made that claim. Please quote me. My claim, the one that promotes liberty unlike your ad hominem attacks who calls people trolls and other unsavory names if they don't agree with you, is that most people, including doctors, do not even know what ingredients are in vaccines.

I believe parents should be able to choose whether or not to administer vaccines, some or all, and to make an informed decision they need all the facts.

The erroneous claim made by you and others is that childhood vaccines do not contain any mercury anymore.

This is not true.

donnay
10-22-2017, 10:26 AM
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1. The first site is a blog, not a study.

This article first appeared at vaxtruth.org/2011/08/vaccine-ingredients/.
Vaccine Ingredients — A Comprehensive Guide
http://vaxtruth.org/2011/08/vaccine-ingredients/


2. The second site is blog post about veterinary studies of adjuvants not actually in human vaccines.

"The adjuvant identified is aluminum hydroxide, a component of most of the currently used veterinary vaccines. An adjuvant used also in human vaccines."



3. The link you provided literally states "The paper was also said to have used a seriously flawed methodology and that the claims made were unjustified. " And goes on to discuss the eventual retraction. So it was garbage, and that's according to your very source.

UBC stands behind vaccine studies discredited by WHO
https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/health/ubc-stands-behind-vaccine-studies-discredited-by-who/article23302328/?ref=http://www.theglobeandmail.com&


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSdCxgF0blc

“I have a document from 2002 from the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA)… discussing the assessment of vaccine ingredients… and testing specifically in animal models. Back then, the FDA stated that the routine toxicity studies in animals with vaccine ingredients have not been conducted because it was assumed that these ingredients are safe. When I read that I was kind of pulling my hairs out [thinking] ‘So, this is your indisputable evidence of safety?’ These documents never made it to mainstream media. It’s just a lie perpetuated over and over again; that we’ve been using these things for over nine decades and it’s been proven safe. No, it’s been assumed safe.”

– Dr. Lucija Tomljenovic (source (https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/03/29/vaccine-adjuvants-brain-effects.aspx))


SO by all means, troll again by ignoring what I just posted and post a flurry of other links. Or screech how every doctor who believes in science is part of same conspiracy. God knows why the mods allow this crap. It has nothing to do with politics, and the bull$#@! drives sane people away.

The mods allow this because in the truest sense of liberty, discussing things are how we learn. Of course in your case, their is no discussing-- just personal attacks, threats and taking things totally out of context.

ETA: The vaccine issue is definitely political, if you cannot see that your aren't paying attention then.

Zippyjuan
10-22-2017, 11:43 AM
This article first appeared at vaxtruth.org/2011/08/vaccine-ingredients/.
Vaccine Ingredients — A Comprehensive Guide
http://vaxtruth.org/2011/08/vaccine-ingredients/



"The adjuvant identified is aluminum hydroxide, a component of most of the currently used veterinary vaccines. An adjuvant used also in human vaccines."

ETA: The vaccine issue is definitely political, if you cannot see that your aren't paying attention then.

Which vaccines contain adjuvants? What is used? How much? What are "harmful amounts"?


Only some vaccines contain adjuvants.
Aluminum is present in U.S. childhood vaccines that prevent hepatitis A, hepatitis B, diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis (DTaP, Tdap), Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib), human papillomavirus (HPV) and pneumococcus infection.

Monophosphoryl lipid A is included in one human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine, Cervarix.



In some vaccines, the weakened or inactivated virus stimulates a strong immune response so no additional adjuvant is needed for it to be effective to protect against infections. In the United States, vaccines against measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox, rotavirus, polio, and seasonal influenza vaccines do not contain added adjuvants.


. Aluminum is one of the most common metals found in nature and is present in air, food, and water.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/adjuvants.html

angelatc
10-22-2017, 12:03 PM
Nope, I never made that claim.

Boy, you are a real piece of work.

So we agree that there is no evidence that adjuvants in vaccines cause more harm than good. So what are you defending again, actually? Who cares if there are adjuvants in vaccines if they aren't harmful?

angelatc
10-22-2017, 12:08 PM
The mods allow this because in the truest sense of liberty, discussing things are how we learn. Of course in your case, their is no discussing-- just personal attacks, threats and taking things totally out of context.

ETA: The vaccine issue is definitely political, if you cannot see that your aren't paying attention then.

I pay far more attention to my world than most. And people like you, using absolute 100% bullshit to create a cult, are a far greater threat to my liberty than my MD ever will be.

donnay
10-22-2017, 12:11 PM
Which vaccines contain adjuvants? What is used? How much? What are "harmful amounts"?







https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/adjuvants.html

Already posted.

CDC has been discredited over and over and over again. Stop posting info from them like it is a credible source.

Zippyjuan
10-22-2017, 12:15 PM
Already posted.

CDC has been discredited over and over and over again. Stop posting info from them like it is a credible source.

Sorry, but your sources are the ones not credible. (It is the CDC which said that adjuvants are used in vaccines- if they are lying, then there must be NO adjuvants in vacccines).

https://www.fda.gov/biologicsbloodvaccines/scienceresearch/ucm284520.htm


The FDA study found that the maximum amount of aluminum an infant could be exposed to over the first year of life would be 4.225 milligrams (mg), based on the recommended schedule of vaccines. Federal Regulations for biological products (including vaccines) limit the amount of aluminum in the recommended individual dose of biological products, including vaccines, to not more than 0.85-1.25 mg. For example, the amount of aluminum in the hepatitis B vaccine given at birth is 0.25 mg.

Aluminum is found naturally in large quantities in the environment, often consumed through drinking water or ingesting certain foods, such as infant formula.

By comparision, one chocolate bar contains on average 40 milligrams of aluminum. Herbal tea- 40 mg. https://enveurope.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/2190-4715-23-37

One Hershey bar would give you the same exposure as 160 Hep A vaccines and ten times the amount a child would receive from all of their childhood vaccines combined.

donnay
10-22-2017, 12:16 PM
I pay far more attention to my world than most. And people like you, using absolute 100% bull$#@! to create a cult, are a far greater threat to my liberty than my MD ever will be.

LOL! '...create a cult...' That's truly laughable. Again, in the truest sense of liberty, discussing things are how we learn. Guess you think you know it all--but I hate to burst your bubble, you don't.

donnay
10-22-2017, 12:34 PM
Sorry, but your sources are the ones not credible. (It is the CDC which said that adjuvants are used in vaccines- if they are lying, then there must be NO adjuvants in vacccines).

https://www.fda.gov/biologicsbloodvaccines/scienceresearch/ucm284520.htm

For my cult who are reading these posts, here are a couple of sources:

Autoimmune/inflammatory syndrome induced by vaccine adjuvants (Shoenfeld’s syndrome)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23557271

Biopersistence and brain translocation of aluminum adjuvants of vaccines
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25699008

Created4
10-22-2017, 12:38 PM
Boy, you are a real piece of work.


And you are no friend of liberty.


So we agree that there is no evidence that adjuvants in vaccines cause more harm than good.


When it comes to vaccines, it is hardly likely we agree on anything. My sole point is that I was not addressing this issue, as you falsely claimed to setup your straw man attack.

I have beliefs about adjuvants based on the evidence, but I am not ignorant enough to call it "science" like some here like to proclaim, when the statement "the science is settled" in regards to vaccines is in itself an anti-science statement.

You spout your beliefs in vaccines as if they are all proven by science, but like many, you seem to use the guise of "science" to promote your own beliefs and agenda. I am guessing you also earn some income from the vaccine industry? Do you?

True science or "facts" is allowing people to know what ingredients are listed in each vaccine, so that, in the name of liberty, people can make up their own minds.

That is what I promote, and I would never want to deny someone who wants a vaccine the choice to purchase or receive that vaccine.

The anti-choice and anti-liberty crowd who believes in vaccines like a religion, wants to take those choices away and force people to accept their beliefs, usually in the name of "science."

That is not liberty - it is medical tyranny.

Zippyjuan
10-22-2017, 12:45 PM
For my cult who are reading these posts, here are a couple of sources:

Autoimmune/inflammatory syndrome induced by vaccine adjuvants (Shoenfeld’s syndrome)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23557271

Biopersistence and brain translocation of aluminum adjuvants of vaccines
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25699008

Some of the cases occurred as much as five years following a vaccine? Average about a year and a half? That is a long lag time if the vaccine was the problem. They identified 300 cases out of a US population of 335 million- a pretty rare disease and they don't show that a vaccine necessarily caused the condition. If I get the flu six months after my measles vaccine, did the measles vaccine cause me to get the flu? (correlation is not causation). And they weren't kids getting vaccinated either.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28741088


The mean age at disease onset was 37 years, and the mean duration of time latency between adjuvant stimuli and development of autoimmune conditions was 16.8 months, ranging between 3 days to 5 years.


https://www.naturalmedicinejournal.com/journal/2017-02/recognizing-autoimmuneautoinflammatory-syndrome-induced-adjuvants-asia


ASIA is thought to be a rare entity, which makes the identification and study of those affected challenging.


, not yet designated as a known disease or syndrome.


Clinically, patients with ASIA often present with generalized complaints, such as persistent fatigue, myalgia, arthralgia, neurologic symptoms, cognitive impairment/memory loss, or dry mouth. Any of these symptoms, in the absence of identifiable pathology, qualify as 1 of the major criteria developed by Shoenfeld/Agmon-Levin.

I am tired. My mouth is dry. I sometimes forget things. "You have Autoimmune/inflammatory syndrome induced by vaccine adjuvants!"

The "disease" was invented in 2011.


Autoimmune/Autoinflammatory Syndrome Induced by Adjuvants (ASIA) was first proposed as a distinct syndrome in 2011

angelatc
10-22-2017, 12:57 PM
For my cult who are reading these posts, here are a couple of sources:

Autoimmune/inflammatory syndrome induced by vaccine adjuvants (Shoenfeld’s syndrome)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23557271




Do your research FFS. They entirely fabricated an acronym, then claimed that everything from vaccines to mineral oil was responsible.

There is literally no such thing as ASIA:
https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/autoimmune-syndrome-induced-by-adjuvants-myth/

However, ASIA is not accepted by the scientific and medical community (http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/868825) (and see this published article (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25794485)), was rejected by the United States vaccine court, (http://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/vaccine-injury-compensation-and-autoimmune-syndromes/) and should not be accepted by parents deciding whether they should vaccinate their children. Furthermore, the European Medicines Agency, which is the primary regulatory body in the EU for pharmaceuticals, has rejected any link between the HPV vaccine and various autoimmune disorders (http://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/hpv-vaccine-safety-european-medicines-agency-review/).

angelatc
10-22-2017, 01:17 PM
blah blah blah

.

Still didn't tell me why you're so fired up about adjuvants since we now agree they aren't a known problem.

angelatc
10-22-2017, 01:57 PM
Interesting quote from Dr Schoenfeld: (https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/867398#vp_2)

Dr Shoenfeld ...emphasized that he is "definitely not against vaccines! Vaccines are the best medical development that humankind has had in the last 300 years, and have helped to bring about almost complete eradication of some viral diseases. "

We won't see that remark repeated here in these forums though.

Zippyjuan
10-22-2017, 02:25 PM
Do your research FFS. They entirely fabricated an acronym, then claimed that everything from vaccines to mineral oil was responsible.

There is literally no such thing as ASIA:

Including silicone breast implants and squalene which is that oil in your fingerprints (you can buy squalene oil as a supplement in health food stores).

Created4
10-22-2017, 02:51 PM
Still didn't tell me why you're so fired up about adjuvants since we now agree they aren't a known problem.

This is what I actually wrote:


When it comes to vaccines, it is hardly likely we agree on anything.

Can you answer this question?


I am guessing you also earn some income from the vaccine industry? Do you?

angelatc
10-23-2017, 08:04 AM
This is what I actually wrote:

BLah blah blah conspiracy something something something.




Nope, I never made that claim (that adjuvants cause harm.)

Still didn't tell me why you're so fired up about adjuvants since we now agree they aren't a known problem.

angelatc
10-23-2017, 08:07 AM
Including silicone breast implants and squalene which is that oil in your fingerprints (you can buy squalene oil as a supplement in health food stores).

And that's likely the last we'll hear from her until she posts a new thread on the topic.

donnay
11-01-2017, 10:05 AM
TWO MAJOR STUDIES IDENTIFY “SIGNIFICANT CONCENTRATIONS” OF MERCURY IN THE RED BLOOD CELLS OF AUTISTIC CHILDREN

ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR.OCTOBER 31, 2017

Mercury is a potent neurotoxin. Even the smallest amounts can cause cumulative adverse effects. Two of the most widespread forms of mercury exposure come from the organic compounds methylmercury (found in fish) and ethylmercury, which makes up 50% of the vaccine preservative thimerosal. The Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR) affirms that young children and fetuses are particularly sensitive to harmful mercury-related effects such as “brain damage, mental retardation, incoordination, blindness, seizures and inability to speak.” This calls into question public health authorities’ aggressive peddling of annual flu shots—many of which contain thimerosal. The influenza vaccine guidelines target all children who are at least six months of age, with two closely spaced doses recommended for very young children in their “first season of vaccination.” They also target pregnant women and women who “might” be pregnant.

Organic mercury can cross the blood-brain barrier, and numerous studies have fingered it as a major offender in increasing the risk of neurodevelopmental disorders such as autism spectrum disorder (ASD), tic disorders, delayed language and attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). Shamefully, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) refuses to admit that mercury is an ASD risk factor. Instead, it has been left up to other researchers to continue to focus attention on the compelling relationship between mercury and ASD.

Taking stock across studies

Two 2017 studies perform a valuable service by systematically reviewing the totality of published mercury-ASD evidence that has accumulated over the past dozen or so years, in particular. The two studies both come out of Iran, and both employ a technique called meta-analysis, which is a quantitative systematic review. Meta-analytic studies seek to take a step back and draw rigorous conclusions about comparable studies as a group. A key benefit of this approach is that it can consolidate “a large, and often complex, sometimes apparently conflicting, body of literature.”

The meta-analysis approach is a very appropriate tool for taking stock of published studies that compare mercury levels in ASD individuals and healthy controls without ASD. The first meta-analysis (published in the Journal of Trace Elements in Medicine and Biology by Tina Jafari and other researchers at Iran’s Shahrekord University of Medical Sciences) focuses exclusively on mercury. The second study (published in Progress in Neuropsychopharmacology and Biological Psychiatry by Amene Saghazadeh and Nima Rezaei at the Tehran University of Medical Sciences) examines mercury along with other heavy metals such as lead. Both research teams used state-of-the-art statistical techniques to produce unbiased results.

The table below summarizes the key features of study #1 (Jafari et al.) and study #2 (Saghazadeh and Rezaei):

http://cdn2.collective-evolution.com/assets/uploads/2017/10/Screen-Shot-2017-10-31-at-4.05.04-PM.png

Both studies found significantly higher concentrations of mercury in the red blood cells of ASD patients versus healthy controls, and the first meta-analysis found significantly higher levels in the whole bloodof ASD patients.
The two meta-analyses examined mercury levels for each type of specimen or tissue. Both studies found significantly higher concentrations of mercury in the red blood cells of ASD patients versus healthy controls, and the first meta-analysis found significantly higher levels in the whole blood of ASD patients. (The second study also found higher levels of lead in both the red blood cells and blood of individuals with ASD, which is suggestive of possible combined or synergistic effects.)

There were no significant differences in urinary mercury levels in ASD and healthy individuals, but there were interesting findings for mercury levels in hair. In study #1, mercury concentrations were significantly lower in ASD patients compared with healthy subjects—but when the investigators analyzed their results by continent, this result held only for America but not for Asia, Africa or Europe. Similarly, study #2’s comparison of developed and developing countries found that mercury levels were significantly lower in the hair of ASD patients in developed but not developing countries—and the preponderance of developed-country studies came from the U.S.

Study #1 also affirmed significantly higher mercury levels in ASD brain tissue. However, the number of brain studies identified for the meta-analysis was very small and also somewhat unclear. The authors report pooling the results of three studies, but their reference list and table include just two studies published by Harvard researchers in 2008 and 2014, respectively. (World Mercury Project has asked the authors to clarify this discrepancy.) The 2008 study found a 68.2% increase in cerebellar mercury in autistic brain tissue (from 3.2 to 80.7 pmol g-1) compared with brain tissue of controls (from 0.9 to 35 pmol g-1), but the increase was not statistically significant. On the other hand, there was a statistically significant elevation in a key marker of oxidative stress in the ASD group that was significantly and positively correlated with elevated mercury. The 2014 study detected no difference in mercury levels but again noted elevated oxidative stress in the ASD group.

Interpreting the findings

Researchers note that a properly conducted systematic review or meta-analysis “allows the reader to take into account a whole range of relevant findings from research on a particular topic” and “establish whether the scientific findings are consistent and generalizable across populations [and] settings…and whether findings vary significantly by particular subgroups.” In addition, “mathematically combining data from a series of well-conducted primary studies may provide a more precise estimate of the underlying ‘true effect’ than any individual study.”

In this instance, the two Iranian teams used a variety of techniques to mitigate the potential weaknesses of meta-analyses. These included using multiple databases, search terms and search strategies to identify relevant studies; following established guidelines to assess the quality of each study; investigating sources of and (where appropriate) adjusting for heterogeneity; analyzing subgroup differences (i.e., the distinction between developed and developing countries); and screening for publication bias. The substantial overlap in the individual studies included in each meta-analysis and the comparability of the two teams’ findings offer a further degree of confidence in the results.

To explain the seemingly counterintuitive finding that hair mercury concentrations are lower (rather than higher) in ASD patients versus healthy individuals, Jafari et al. point to the evidence that those with ASD have impaired detoxification pathways and mechanisms.

As a result, ASD individuals retain mercury inside the cells rather than being able to effectively excrete it through the hair, stool or urine. The Iranian authors do not delve into the question of why ASD patients in developed (primarily U.S.) versus developing countries are less likely to excrete mercury and more likely to retain a heavy body burden. However, one conspicuous factor that differentiates the U.S. from other developed countries (as well as the rest of the world) may help explain this result: the U.S. promotes a far more burdensome vaccine schedule, laden with heavy metals such as thimerosal and aluminum, and annually insists that moms accept thimerosal-containing flu vaccines for themselves and their young children.

Moreover, some common flu vaccines contain the emulsifier polysorbate 80, which disrupts the blood-brain barrier and helps create an extremely effective delivery system for escorting neurotoxic ethylmercury and other heavy metals straight to the brain.
Research by Burbacher and colleagues compared blood and brain mercury levels in monkeys exposed to methylmercury and ethylmercury. That work showed that ethylmercury, in particular, goes to the brain, gets metabolized into even more toxic inorganic mercury and remains in the brain for years. Moreover, some common flu vaccines contain the emulsifier polysorbate 80, which disrupts the blood-brain barrierand helps create an extremely effective delivery system for escorting neurotoxic ethylmercury and other heavy metals straight to the brain.

Unfortunately, the majority of published studies only measure total mercury, and very few have examined brain tissue. This makes it challenging to zero in on the specific effects and mechanisms associated with exposure to ethylmercury. Given young children’s widespread exposure to ethylmercury in vaccines, there is no excuse for failing to address this research gap—and even less excuse for failing to remove thimerosal from all vaccines.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2017/10/31/two-major-studies-identify-significant-concentrations-of-mercury-in-the-red-blood-cells-of-autistic-children/?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

Zippyjuan
11-01-2017, 11:51 AM
Article notes:


However, the number of brain studies identified for the meta-analysis was very small and also somewhat unclear


when the investigators analyzed their results by continent, this result held only for America but not for Asia, Africa or Europe. Similarly, study #2’s comparison of developed and developing countries found that mercury levels were significantly lower in the hair of ASD patients in developed but not developing countries—and the preponderance of developed-country studies came from the U.S.