Trump & Democrats Near Agreement on DACA

[EBounding]

Bah ha ha ha ha!

Trump, Democrats Near Agreement on DACA, Border Security (https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-democrats-strike-deal-on-daca-border-security-1505355644?tesla=y)
Pelosi, Schumer say in statement that deal doesn’t include funding for border wall


WASHINGTON—President Donald Trump and congressional Democrats closed in on a deal to give legal status to undocumented immigrants who were brought to the U.S. as children.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D., N.Y.) and House Minority Leader Nancy said in a joint statement that, over dinner at the White House, they had agreed with Mr. Trump on the outlines of a deal to enshrine protections for these young immigrants into law “quickly” and to “work out a package of border security, excluding the wall, that’s acceptable to both sides.”

A separate White House statement called the meeting “constructive” but stopped short of announcing the framework for an agreement. After the Democrats’ statement was issued, a White House official said that no agreement was reached.

In recent days, both sides appeared to be edging toward this formulation, with Democrats agreeing to include border-security measures, and the White House signaling it would accept the immigrant protections without insisting that the legislation also include funding for the southwest border-wall package.

Earlier in the day, Mr. Trump had courted Democrats on the subject at a bipartisan meeting, and the dinner Wednesday evening was at his invitation.

Even before the agreement was announced, these overtures have conservatives worried that the president will agree to a plan without strong immigration enforcement that Republicans favor. In response to those concerns, Mr. Trump said he was hoping for a bipartisan deal and planned to continue talking.

“Some of the greatest legislation ever passed, it was done on a bipartisan manner. And so that is why we’re going to give it a shot,” he told reporters.

Even before the agreement was announced, these overtures have conservatives worried that the president will agree to a plan without strong immigration enforcement that Republicans favor. It is unclear whether GOP leaders or members of Congress will fall in line with the agreement that Democrats say was reached.

On Wednesday afternoon, Mr. Trump brushed off GOP concerns. He told reporters that he was hoping for a bipartisan deal and planned to continue talking.

Mr. Trump raised the subject of the young immigrants at a bipartisan meeting of lawmakers that had been billed as a discussion on a tax overhaul.

Rep. Josh Gottheimer, a New Jersey Democrat who sat next to Mr. Trump during that meeting, said in an interview afterward that Mr. Trump made “clear that he is open and eager to get bipartisan legislation” to resolve the issue of these immigrants.

Other Democrats at the meeting said Mr. Trump appeared willing to consider the border wall funding separately from the discussion of the young immigrants but suggested he may want a package to include new limits on legal immigration.

[dannno]

You actually believe that?

I thought we've been over this. Pretty much everything CNN, WSJ and NYT writes about Trump are lies. You might want to wait a little before laughing. It makes you look silly.

[Swordsmyth]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?514922-Schumer-Pelosi-Announce-Deal-With-Trump-DACA-For-Border-Security-But-No-Wall

[EBounding]

You actually believe that?

I thought we've been over this. Pretty much everything CNN, WSJ and NYT writes about Trump are lies. You might want to wait a little before laughing. It makes you look silly.

I mean, if it makes you feel better...
https://i.imgur.com/Ij1NsAo.png

[dannno]

I mean, if it makes you feel better...
https://i.imgur.com/Ij1NsAo.png

Well they are going to look silly as well.

[dannno]

Hahahhahahahahh.

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[dannno]

See, now you just look silly.

[EBounding]

"The Wall" is going to be a separate issue. Trump wants DACA into law.

[Origanalist]

See, now you just look silly.

http://sherpablog.marketingsherpa.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Snake-Oil-Cures-All.jpeg

[Swordsmyth]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?514922-Schumer-Pelosi-Announce-Deal-With-Trump-DACA-For-Border-Security-But-No-Wall

Please merge these threads.

[dannno]

Trump wants DACA into law.

Why do you think that?

[EBounding]

"The Wall" is going to be a separate issue. Trump wants DACA into law.


Why do you think that?

Check out this report from CNN--I mean Donald Trump:

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[donnay]

Deal or no deal? Trump says he did NOT make an agreement with Democrats on 'Dreamers' and border security despite Chuck and Nancy's claims: 'THE WALL...will continue to be built'

The deal was announced last night by leading Democrats Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi after a dinner at the White House with the president

They said that Trump agreed to enshrine protections for 800,000 illegal immigrants, aka Dreamers, in a border security package 'excluding the wall'

White House press secretary Sarah Sanders later said that there was no agreement on the wall during the meeting

President Trump said the same thing in a string of tweets on Thursday morning

'No deal was made last night on DACA. Massive border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. Would be subject to vote,' he said

Follow up message: 'The WALL, which is already under construction in the form of new renovation of old and existing fences and walls, will continue to be built'

Trump again pushed Congress to pass legislation protecing the immigrants - but said he wanted 'BIG border security'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4882526/Trump-agrees-deal-Democrats-protect-immigrants.html#ixzz4sefvpqbg

[Origanalist]

Check out this report from CNN--I mean Donald Trump:

908276308265795585
908278070611779585

You just don't understand how Trump operates, do you even art of the deal bro?

[dean.engelhardt]

http://sherpablog.marketingsherpa.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Snake-Oil-Cures-All.jpeg

All a smoke screen folks. He was with the Democrats to discuss Medicare for All.

[EBounding]

You just don't understand how Trump operates, do you even art of the deal bro?

That's true. This is obviously a big Alpha Male move that cucks can't understand!

[dannno]

That's true. This is obviously a big Alpha Male move that cucks can't understand!

Lying about what he said about the wall was a alpha move by Pelosi you're saying?

[EBounding]

Sorry you're not going to get me to defend Pelosi :P

But why would Trump meet with Pelosi and Schumer if he didn't want DACA to become law?

[dannno]

But why would Trump meet with Pelosi and Schumer if he didn't want DACA to become law?

Wow, that is a fantastic argument, well played, I can't possibly think of ANY other reason in the entire world why the President would meet with congressional leaders, other than he wants to give up on a campaign promise.. I mean, what other reason would they have to meet with each other, ever?

[Swordsmyth]

Somebody is lying, either Dump never made such a deal or he is going back on it, either way this test run failed.

https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/JJU9MQTaUe2ABgGG.uberw--/Zmk9c3RyaW07aD0xOTM7cHlvZmY9MDtxPTk1O3c9MjIwO3NtPT E7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/techcrunch_350/902f9cd36ee9860d43b7f1ef103f12b0

[EBounding]

Wow, that is a fantastic argument, well played, I can't possibly think of ANY other reason in the entire world why the President would meat with congressional leaders, other than he wants to give up on a campaign promise.. I mean, what other reason would they have to meet with each other, ever?

When did he say he would deport 800k of "dreamers" during the campaign ?

[spudea]

Bah ha ha ha ha!

Trump, Democrats Near Agreement on DACA, Border Security (https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-democrats-strike-deal-on-daca-border-security-1505355644?tesla=y)
Pelosi, Schumer say in statement that deal doesn’t include funding for border wall

Bah ha ha ha ha!

WE WILL BUILD A WALL (NOT A FENCE)

https://i.redd.it/xtu7mp7jqwlz.png

[dannno]

Silly thread is silly.

[dannno]

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[Raginfridus]

Silly thread is silly.http://www.covfefedefined.com/img/tweet-large.png

His campaign promise was for Mexico to pay for the wall... remains to be seen if Mexico will kow to yet more Best Deals for nobody (http://resistancereport.com/news/texans-property-seized-wall/) from America. Mexicans should die for our war on drugs, and give us money to contain their peasants.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVxwaObpss0

Get real, his great wall can't stop the globalization of markets, human trafficking, nor street gangs from doing the will of the USG cartels.

[helmuth_hubener]

Get real, his great wall can't stop the globalization of markets, human trafficking, nor street gangs from doing the will of the USG cartels.

Nothing is inevitable. We've had globalist periods before, and they were stopped, by various actions. Human actions matter. Globalism ebbs and flows. Crime ebbs and flows. Actions, and especially massive actions (such as building a continental wall), do have an effect on history.

[RonZeplin]

This is pretty close to a resignation from Trump. Time to start looking seriously for a 2020 presidential candidate, IMO. Even if he's not leaving now, he will be after his present term is finished. He's done, stick a fork in 'em!
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/32/c5/d7/32c5d77ba2c04629590f151df19510e5--real-donald-trump-donald-oconnor.jpg

[Swordsmyth]

This is pretty close to a resignation from Trump. Time to start looking seriously for a 2020 presidential candidate, IMO. Even if he's not leaving now, he will be after his present term is finished. He's done, stick a fork in 'em!
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/32/c5/d7/32c5d77ba2c04629590f151df19510e5--real-donald-trump-donald-oconnor.jpg

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-7uDRpG9AKDY%2FVgblhNtSqnI%2FAAAAAAAAf0w%2FLu6Y4Dkq 2fw%2Fs1600%2Freportsofmydeathtombstone-300x1801.jpg&f=1

[AuH20]

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Here's the deal. The dems can have their 800k dreamers in return for the Wall.

[EBounding]

"Border security" is going to be part of the DACA deal--the wall is going to be separate.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-democrats-immigration-deal-20170913-story.html

[nikcers]

"Border security" is going to be part of the DACA deal--the wall is going to be separate.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-democrats-immigration-deal-20170913-story.html

Seems more like security theater unless they are going to provoke an attack on our country and that's the weakest point of entry.

[EBounding]

Donald Trump's chief of staff met Tuesday with lawmakers from both parties, and a compromise looks likely in January. (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/19/senate-white-house-trump-lay-groundwork-for-daca-deal-306298)

No one's getting deported.

[Swordsmyth]

Donald Trump's chief of staff met Tuesday with lawmakers from both parties, and a compromise looks likely in January. (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/19/senate-white-house-trump-lay-groundwork-for-daca-deal-306298)

No one's getting deported.

We will see.

[EBounding]

Trump Appears to Endorse Path to Citizenship for Millions of Immigrants (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/09/us/politics/trump-daca-immigration.html)


Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, floated the idea of a broader immigration deal during the meeting in the White House Cabinet Room on Tuesday, making clear that it would have to include a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants already in the country.

Mr. Trump replied: “If you want to take it that further step, I’ll take the heat. I will take all the heat. You are not that far away from comprehensive immigration reform.”

Lawmakers from both parties were taken aback by the president’s words.

[timosman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n3dCNCHyLY

[Zippyjuan]

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/09/politics/california-judge-daca-applications/index.html

The court said that those currently on DACA cannot be kicked off it or deported but they also said that the administration can refuse to sign up any new people to the program.


Judge blocks Trump administration plan to roll back DACA

A federal judge in California late Tuesday temporarily blocked the Trump administration's efforts to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.

Judge William Alsup also said the administration must resume receiving DACA renewal applications.

But the ruling is limited -- the administration does not need to process applications for those who have never before received DACA protections, he said.

[Zippyjuan]

http://time.com/4927100/donald-trump-daca-past-statements/

Trump on "Dreamers:"


“They shouldn’t be very worried,” Trump said in an ABC News interview in January when asked how his policies would affect the Dreamers.

“They are here illegally. They shouldn’t be very worried. I do have a big heart. We’re going to take care of everybody. We’re going to have a very strong border. We’re gonna have a very solid border. Where you have great people that are here that have done a good job, they should be far less worried. We’ll be coming out with policy on that over the next period of four weeks.”

[Swordsmyth]

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/09/politics/california-judge-daca-applications/index.html

The court said that those currently on DACA cannot be kicked off it or deported but they also said that the administration can refuse to sign up any new people to the program.

It will be overturned.

[Swordsmyth]

http://time.com/4927100/donald-trump-daca-past-statements/

Trump on "Dreamers:"

DJTvsg says lots of things, you have to watch what he does.

[Zippyjuan]

DJTvsg says lots of things, you have to watch what he does.

His constant contradictions makes him more untrustworthy.

[Swordsmyth]

The so-called bipartisan DACA deal presented yesterday to myself and a group of Republican Senators and Congressmen was a big step backwards. Wall was not properly funded, Chain & Lottery were made worse and USA would be forced to take large numbers of people from high crime.....
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 12, 2018 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/951785587765280768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
....countries which are doing badly. I want a merit based system of immigration and people who will help take our country to the next level. I want safety and security for our people. I want to stop the massive inflow of drugs. I want to fund our military, not do a Dem defund....
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 12, 2018 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/951788342647107584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
....Because of the Democrats not being interested in life and safety, DACA has now taken a big step backwards. The Dems will threaten “shutdown,” but what they are really doing is shutting down our military, at a time we need it most. Get smart, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 12, 2018 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/951790999784783872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-12/trump-denies-shithole-comment-slams-outrageous-daca-proposal

[timosman]

His constant contradictions makes him more untrustworthy.


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[Zippyjuan]

The so-called bipartisan DACA deal presented yesterday to myself and a group of Republican Senators and Congressmen was a big step backwards. Wall was not properly funded, Chain & Lottery were made worse and USA would be forced to take large numbers of people from high crime.....
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 12, 2018 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/951785587765280768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
....countries which are doing badly. I want a merit based system of immigration and people who will help take our country to the next level. I want safety and security for our people. I want to stop the massive inflow of drugs. I want to fund our military, not do a Dem defund....
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 12, 2018 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/951788342647107584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
....Because of the Democrats not being interested in life and safety, DACA has now taken a big step backwards. The Dems will threaten “shutdown,” but what they are really doing is shutting down our military, at a time we need it most. Get smart, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 12, 2018 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/951790999784783872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-12/trump-denies-$#@!hole-comment-slams-outrageous-daca-proposal

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/09/trump-says-hell-sign-daca-pursue-comprehensive-immigration-reform.html

Trump: I will sign any immigration bill. January 9th, 2018.


"You guys are going to have to come up with a solution [for DACA], and I'm going to sign that solution," Trump said during a bipartisan meeting of House and Senate leaders at the White House on Tuesday morning.


"My positions are going to be what the people in this room come up with," the president later told the press pool. "If they come to me with things I'm not in love with, I'm going to do it, because I respect them,"


" I'm signing it. I mean, I will be signing it. I'm not going to say, oh, gee, I want this or I want that. I'll be signing it because I have a lot of confidence in the people in this room that you're going to come out with something really good."

[dannno]

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/09/trump-says-hell-sign-daca-pursue-comprehensive-immigration-reform.html

Trump: I will sign any immigration bill. January 9th, 2018.


Hey zip, would it be fair to say that you would criticize Donald Trump no matter what he does here?

[Ender]

The so-called bipartisan DACA deal presented yesterday to myself and a group of Republican Senators and Congressmen was a big step backwards. Wall was not properly funded, Chain & Lottery were made worse and USA would be forced to take large numbers of people from high crime.....
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 12, 2018 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/951785587765280768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
....countries which are doing badly. I want a merit based system of immigration and people who will help take our country to the next level. I want safety and security for our people. I want to stop the massive inflow of drugs. I want to fund our military, not do a Dem defund....
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 12, 2018 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/951788342647107584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
....Because of the Democrats not being interested in life and safety, DACA has now taken a big step backwards. The Dems will threaten “shutdown,” but what they are really doing is shutting down our military, at a time we need it most. Get smart, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 12, 2018 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/951790999784783872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-12/trump-denies-$#@!hole-comment-slams-outrageous-daca-proposal

So, how about ending the WoD and the WoT, Donald? That should take care of all your concerns.

[timosman]

So, how about ending the WoD and the WoT, Donald? That should take care of all your concerns.

These two support almost the entire economy, roughly 50/50. You can't make sudden moves in such a delicate environment. Let's have some foreplay first. :cool:

[Ender]

These two support almost the entire economy, roughly 50/50. You can't make sudden moves in such a delicate environment. Let's have some foreplay first. :cool:

Yeah, gotta blame it on them shithole countries first. ;)

[dannno]

Yeah, gotta blame it on them shithole countries first. ;)

Do you have any evidence Trump called any country a shithole country?

[enhanced_deficit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n3dCNCHyLY

To be devil's advocate, you don't need negotiation skills or even strong mental competence when you have trust in Congress. 'The swamp' can't be that bad if Trump is willing to put his trust in them, it's the crazy guys like Steve Bannon that he needs to swamp out of Washignton.

Recently the cannot-be-a-puppet stable genius put his full trust in moderate neocons like his largest donor Sheldon Adelson's zionist camp, his Jewish Son in law and other very competent elders in the room and quickly signed on very pro-Israel/anti-Palestinian policies without blinking or any negotiation.

But he is not all genius and no weaknesses, the guy does seem to have a very healthy need for validation/applause from people in his audience, media and Chuck Schumer. He might be the ultimate bi-partisan politician that Obama striken GOP base has put in power who can be molded into wide range of things (from a Schumer Democrat to Javanka Republican to Bannon Conservative) by controlling his surroundings.

[Ender]

Do you have any evidence Trump called any country a $#@!hole country?

Do you have any evidence that I mentioned Trump?

[EBounding]

What does this mean???

https://www.wsj.com/articles/democrats-try-to-narrow-focus-of-an-immigration-deal-1516903971


The biggest question Thursday was how conservatives will react to Mr. Trump’s support for citizenship for the Dreamers, who were shielded from deportation by actions taken by former President Barack Obama. About 700,000 immigrants registered for that program, known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals.

Mr. Trump’s plan would protect those people, plus others who would otherwise qualify. That brings the total to about 1.8 million people who could become citizens within 10 to 12 years, White House officials said.

[Zippyjuan]

Trump's position on Dreamers has changed yet again. He is now back to supporting citizenship for them.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/experience/food-and-wine/news-festivals-events/2018/01/25/trump-team-unveils-new-immigration-framework-path-citizenship-dreamers/1066980001/


Trump team unveils new immigration framework with path to citizenship for DREAMers


WASHINGTON — A White House proposal on immigration will contain a path to citizenship for up to 1.8 million young people brought into the United States as children as part of a package that also includes $25 billion for a border wall and other security measures.

President Trump's plan would also include a massive cut in family-based immigration and the end to a diversity visa lottery system that gives preference to immigrants from under-represented countries, according to a White House briefing for congressional staffers and Trump allies hosted by White House senior adviser Stephen Miller.

The proposal is designed to win 60 Senate votes and break a potential filibuster that could trigger another government shutdown next month, Miller said on the call, to which USA TODAY obtained access.

The path to citizenship has been among the most contentious issues in the immigration debate over the last decade, and Trump himself has taken inconsistent positions on it. But in an impromptu group interview with reporters Wednesday, the president said he's willing to consider citizenship for so-called DREAMers who came to the United States as children.


"If they do a great job, I think it's a nice thing to have the incentive of, after a period of years, being able to become a citizen," Trump said. That period would be 10 to 12 years, Trump said.

Yet the proposal to cut back family-based immigration is sure to draw fire from Democrats, as it represents a nearly 25% cut to legal immigration into the country. Under the new plan, Miller said that U.S. citizens and green card holders will only be allowed to sponsor their spouses and minor children to enter the country.

Congress passed a short-term funding bill over the weekend to keep the government open until Feb. 8; Democrats have insisted the Senate take up an immigration bill before voting on any additional funding. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said in a statement Thursday that he appreciated Trump laying out his immigration objectives. "I am hopeful that as discussions continue in the Senate on the subject of immigration, Members on both sides of the aisle will look to this framework for guidance as they work towards an agreement," he said.

The plan addresses four issues that the White House has insisted be included in any immigration fix:

► DREAMers. The bill would provide a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants who came to the U.S. as children, known as DREAMers. The number of immigrants who could qualify would be larger than the group protected under the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. That program covered nearly 800,000 DREAMers, but Miller said the new plan could protect up to 1.8 million people, which is "substantially larger than the DACA population."

The immigrants who would be eligible to apply for citizenship may face a process that could take 10 to 12 years, according to Trump. "We're going to morph into it," Trump told reporters. "I think it's a nice thing to have the incentive of, after a period of years, being able to become a citizen."

Eligibility criteria would include requirements for "work, education and good moral character," according to a White House summary of the plan.

That plan mirrors a bipartisan Senate proposal that would allow DREAMers to become citizens after 12 years, or 10 years if they were approved for DACA.

[Swordsmyth]

Trump's position on Dreamers has changed yet again. He is now back to supporting citizenship for them.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/experience/food-and-wine/news-festivals-events/2018/01/25/trump-team-unveils-new-immigration-framework-path-citizenship-dreamers/1066980001/

He gets to look "Reasonable" and the bill won't pass anyway.

[rpfocus]

'...And Mexico's gonna pay for it!' - Amnesty Don

[seapilot]

http://www.mikemichalowicz.com/the-4-steps-to-negotiating-winning-business-deals/


Are you the person who always gets their way, no matter what? You are a horrible negotiator. Democrats

Do you offer your best deal right off the bat, only to get cut down even further? You too, are a horrible negotiator. Republicans

Or are you one of the few who maximize your gains AND maximize the gains for the guy on the other side? Then you are a master negotiator, and you already know this (everyone else listen up): Trump?

[Swordsmyth]

He gets to look "Reasonable" and the bill won't pass anyway.

DREAMers quickly reject Trump’s immigration planhttps://thinkprogress.org/dreamers-reject-white-house-framework-9a5607d3f869/

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[Zippyjuan]

Trump's proposal seems to have something everybody hates. Trying to ensure it fails?

[EBounding]

DREAMers quickly reject Trump’s immigration planhttps://thinkprogress.org/dreamers-reject-white-house-framework-9a5607d3f869/

https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/JJU9MQTaUe2ABgGG.uberw--/Zmk9c3RyaW07aD0xOTM7cHlvZmY9MDtxPTk1O3c9MjIwO3NtPT E7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/techcrunch_350/902f9cd36ee9860d43b7f1ef103f12b0

"Let’s call this proposal for what it is: a white supremacist ransom note."

LOL The entertainment just doesn't stop. Trump should propose gun control next.

[Swordsmyth]

Trump's proposal seems to have something everybody hates. Trying to ensure it fails?

The clock is running out, DREAMers don't have long before ICE comes for them.
Juan are you zippy enough to stay one jump ahead of them?

[dannno]

What does this mean???

https://www.wsj.com/articles/democrats-try-to-narrow-focus-of-an-immigration-deal-1516903971

It says wsj.com and it it talking about Donald Trump, so I wouldn't recommend reading it unless you want to take a stab at debunking it.... cuz it's bullshit.

[enhanced_deficit]

'...And Mexico's gonna pay for it!' - Amnesty Don

Latest political chatter post Bannon exit suggests it might not be a virtual wall necessarily.


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Trump and Dianne Feinstein Near Agreement on Gun control

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Is Wall plan still in elementary phase?

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Tough issues can be tackled by both MAGA and Pelosi working together. MAGA's top funder Adelson and Pelosi seem to have similar views on this issue.

Trump: ‘I Like Nancy Pelosi’ and Will Help Her Win Race for Speaker (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?528483-Trump-‘I-Like-Nancy-Pelosi’-and-Will-Help-Her-Win-Race-for-Speaker&)


GOP Donors for Immigration Reform: Sheldon Adelson, Paul Singer & More

The major givers who bankrolled the 2012 GOP candidates are squarely behind reform. Ben Jacobs reports.
Ben Jacobs

(https://www.thedailybeast.com/author/ben-jacobs)07.24.13

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What do major Republican donors like Sheldon Adelson (https://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/10/12/does-he-really-love-sheldon-adelson.html]) and Paul Singer have in common with Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi? They are all in favor of immigration reform (https://www.thedailybeast.com/features/2013/07/the-great-immigration-debate.html).
https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/d_placeholder_euli9k/dpr_2.0/c_limit,w_585/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1/articles/2013/07/24/gop-donors-for-immigration-reform-sheldon-adelson-paul-singer-more/130723-gop-donors-immigration-reform-tease_j3n8yb

The Republican rank and file may be divided, and the prospects for the Senate’s immigration compromise in the House gloomy, but among the biggest donors to Republican causes in the 2012 cycle, there is overwhelming support for immigration reform

https://www.thedailybeast.com/gop-donors-for-immigration-reform-sheldon-adelson-paul-singer-and-more


November 16, 2018
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President Donald Trump on Friday recognized his major donor Miriam Adelson (wife of Sheldon Adelson) with the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the highest honor the nation reserves for a civilian.

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Pelosi says no wall, while Trump allies put DACA on the table


01/04/2019
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2019/01/04/pelosi-says-no-wall-while-trump-allies-put-daca-on-the-table-370394

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Good news for the public, MAGA-Dems deal making season has started again. This should put a dent in aspirations of liberal Dems looking to impeach him.
Bold leadership by Pelosi, Schumer and art of the deal guru:


No cameras, no conservative handlers: Trump wheels and deals with Democrats




Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) said April 30 that he thinks Democrats can work with President Trump and investigate him simultaneously. (Reuters)


By Paul Kane
April 30 at 6:07 PM

House Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer had a very clear wish on the eve of Tuesday’s meeting with President Trump: No cameras, no live TV.
“I hope not,” the Maryland Democrat said Monday evening, believing Trump on camera and Trump off camera are different personalities. “That doesn’t lead to productive discussions.”
With Hoyer’s wish granted, Trump and a dozen congressional Democrats sat behind closed doors at a White House meeting that by all accounts was cordial and productive. They announced a framework for a $2 trillion infrastructure deal that would transform roads, bridges, public transit, rural broadband and more.
Chances are this deal collapses well before the next meeting of this same group, tentatively set for three weeks off. Republicans back at the Capitol demonstrated little appetite for such an expensive project.
But the meeting served as the latest example of how differently Trump acts around House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), depending on the optics.
Give him a closed room, no TV cameras, without conservative handlers around — his chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) were not on hand — and Trump turns into the wheeler and dealer of the Manhattan real estate world.
“I like the number you’ve been using, Nancy, $2 trillion,” the president privately told Pelosi and other Democrats on Tuesday, according to a Democratic readout of the meeting. He had endorsed a $2 trillion plan, a stunning break from conservative orthodoxy.
But if Trump ushers the top Democrats into a meeting with the press corps on hand, he turns into the blunt-talking reality-TV star who gained fame by insulting others and declaring “You’re fired.”
“It’s not easy for her to talk right now,” Trump said to the cameras in a December meeting (https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/schumer-pelosi-set-to-meet-with-trump-on-wall-but-house-gop-stands-firm/2018/12/11/2604b1ae-fd56-11e8-862a-b6a6f3ce8199_story.html?utm_term=.2e7a941bd37c) as Pelosi sat next to him. He insulted her by suggesting she would not to win the speaker’s race a few weeks off.

[From ‘He likes us’ to ‘Sad!’: The rise and fall of the Trump-Schumer-Pelosi partnership (https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/in-two-months-the-donald-chuck-nancy-partnership-blows-up-in-presidential-stunt/2017/11/28/31ce0708-d46a-11e7-95bf-df7c19270879_story.html?utm_term=.16ba9478be28)]

This week’s meeting had all the echoes of a September 2017 meeting with just Schumer, Pelosi, Trump and some senior aides discussing a broad range of issues related to immigration.
The walk-up to that meeting had been contentious, with Trump announcing that he was giving Congress six months to come up with a resolution to the standoff on the 2012 Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals executive action, taken by then-President Barack Obama, protecting more than 1 million immigrants from deportation.

But when he met with Pelosi and Schumer, Trump gave in to Democratic demands that would allow a path to citizenship for those “dreamers.” The president even issued a tweet guaranteeing no deportations for those under DACA protections as Congress worked out the details of the deal, a tweet that Pelosi specifically asked him to deliver.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/no-cameras-no-conservative-handlers-trump-wheels-and-deals-with-democrats/2019/04/30/21cf0bfe-6b7c-11e9-8f44-e8d8bb1df986_story.html



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Trump's deal with Schumer, Pelosi should dismay conservatives (https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/350176-trumps-deal-with-schumer-pelosi-should-dismay-conservatives)

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Every time Trump has met with Congressional leaders in the White House, he has gone back on the deal. But it is good PR. They had one on DACA and avoiding the government shutdown.

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Just in time for 2020 campaign season:





Supreme Court to hear arguments in legal battle over DACA in November

By Camilo Montoya-Galvez
July 8, 2019 / 12:11 PM / CBS News

Early last month, the Democratic-led House passed the latest version of the DREAM Act (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dream-and-promise-act-2019-passes-house-approves-bill-that-would-place-millions-of-immigrants-on-path-to-citizenship/), an ambitious expansion of a nearly two-decades-long legislative effort that would place millions of DACA recipients — as well as DACA-eligible young immigrants and those with temporary protected status — on a pathway to U.S. citizenship.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-to-hear-arguments-in-legal-battle-over-daca-in-november/





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Trump SCOTUS pick Gorsuch ,a CFR member, sided with liberals in key ruling

Gorsuch sides with liberals in shooting down tougher sentences for gun crimes
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gorsuch-sides-with-liberals-in-shooting-down-tougher-sentences-for-gun-crimes

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Just in time for 2020 campaign season:




https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-to-hear-arguments-in-legal-battle-over-daca-in-november/





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Trump SCOTUS pick Gorsuch ,a CFR member, sided with liberals in key ruling

Gorsuch sides with liberals in shooting down tougher sentences for gun crimes
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gorsuch-sides-with-liberals-in-shooting-down-tougher-sentences-for-gun-crimes

Gorsuch was right in those cases and he will not rule for DACA.

I hope you have your bags packed.

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I mean, if it makes you feel better...
https://i.imgur.com/Ij1NsAo.png

Coulter article featured on top right, did not realize she was so influential with Breitbart conservatives.

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Coulter article featured on top right, did not realize she was so influential with Breitbart conservatives.
DACA is already dead, there will be no deal.

Don't torture yourself with false hope.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiL5jZrBuLU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiL5jZrBuLU

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This Schumer speech is getting lot of play on Trump's old reality TV show channel NBC:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG8WHopVhFk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG8WHopVhFk

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https://www.npr.org/2020/12/04/943355234/judge-orders-trump-administration-to-restore-daca-as-it-existed-under-obama