jmdrake
08-25-2017, 06:38 AM
I posted this in another thread, but I thought it deserved its own thread. People think that RealID is only being applied to drivers licenses. That's simply not true. States are using the RealID template they drew up for drivers licenses in order to be compliant with the TSA and extending them to other forms of ID. It's simple political inertia.
There are laws being proposed by Republicans that will federalize handgun licenses as well. Here's one.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/lawmakers-let-tsa-accept-concealed-carry-permits-as-id-at-airports/article/2576545
Sounds great right? Let the TSA accept concealed carry permits as ID at airports. Here's the catch. For that to happen, the handgun licenses will ultimately have to conform to RealID (national ID card). Texas handgun licenses are already RealID! Here are the basics for RealID.
The REAL ID Act sets forth new federally mandated requirements for all state driver’s licenses and ID cards. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has set standards not entirely dissimilar from the requirements already in place for most states throughout the country. On each ID, the following information must be present:
Full legal name
Residential address
Birth date
Gender
Driver’s license/identification card number
Digital front-facing photograph
Signature
Driver’s licenses and IDs must now also include a common barcode and security devices to prevent any tampering with or counterfeiting of the card, and must display a star in the upper right-hand corner, signifying that your identification has been approved by the TSA and your identity has been verified. There are also new requirements put in place to obtain an ID or license; all applicants must present the following documents during the application process:
A photo ID, or non-photo ID that contains the applicant’s full legal name and birth date
Valid birth certificate
Social Security number
Proof of legal U.S. citizenship, OR proof of lawful admittance into or temporary residence within the U.S.
Lastly, each state must also agree to share its database of licensed citizens and drivers with all other states, including every piece of data on the cards themselves (name, address, birth date, etc.), along with all driving records and driver histories of everyone licensed to drive in the state.
Here is a Texas concealed carry license.
http://pointblanksg.com/wp-content/uploads/2016-02-01LTCLicense.jpg
Here is the Texas drivers license front and back.
http://www.agavedesign.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/driverslicense1.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--GjOvP26PTM/USvkoBWHiCI/AAAAAAAAAa4/vr0TRee0BXQ/s1600/DriversLicense.png
Note that both the Texas drivers license and the Texas handgun carry license are already RealID!
This is how government inertia works. It's simply easier to make everything the same. If the government is going to set up drivers licenses to be "RealID compliant", why the hell would it go out of its way to make concealed carry licenses or any other license it issues not RealID compliant? Short answer? It wouldn't! We are being suckered.
I remember the day when drivers licenses didn't have photos on them. I remember the day when social security cards said on them "These cannot be used as identification." Now you have to present a social security card to get a RealID compliant machine readable ID with your picture on it. And the problem with pushing for government issued photo ID for voting is that's just one more sphere where we're being told we have to have a government issued RealID! I hear the jackass talk show host pundits say "Well you have to have an ID to get on a plane so why not for voting?" I shouldn't have to have an ID to get on a plane! 9/11 didn't happen because of a lack of photo ID. Hell, the CIA under Bush was waving terrorists into the country and that has been admitted! The Obama administration purposefully let the underwear bomber on the plane and that has been admitted!
Here is the bottom line. The government is using fear to take over more and more of our lives. It doesn't matter if it's fear over "refer madness" or fear over terrorism or fear over illegal immigrants taking jobs or committing crimes or fear over liberal block voting taking away liberty, when conservatives are just as anti liberty! "Hey! Let's have more gubmit control to protect us from gubmit control!" That's crazy as hell!
There are laws being proposed by Republicans that will federalize handgun licenses as well. Here's one.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/lawmakers-let-tsa-accept-concealed-carry-permits-as-id-at-airports/article/2576545
Sounds great right? Let the TSA accept concealed carry permits as ID at airports. Here's the catch. For that to happen, the handgun licenses will ultimately have to conform to RealID (national ID card). Texas handgun licenses are already RealID! Here are the basics for RealID.
The REAL ID Act sets forth new federally mandated requirements for all state driver’s licenses and ID cards. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has set standards not entirely dissimilar from the requirements already in place for most states throughout the country. On each ID, the following information must be present:
Full legal name
Residential address
Birth date
Gender
Driver’s license/identification card number
Digital front-facing photograph
Signature
Driver’s licenses and IDs must now also include a common barcode and security devices to prevent any tampering with or counterfeiting of the card, and must display a star in the upper right-hand corner, signifying that your identification has been approved by the TSA and your identity has been verified. There are also new requirements put in place to obtain an ID or license; all applicants must present the following documents during the application process:
A photo ID, or non-photo ID that contains the applicant’s full legal name and birth date
Valid birth certificate
Social Security number
Proof of legal U.S. citizenship, OR proof of lawful admittance into or temporary residence within the U.S.
Lastly, each state must also agree to share its database of licensed citizens and drivers with all other states, including every piece of data on the cards themselves (name, address, birth date, etc.), along with all driving records and driver histories of everyone licensed to drive in the state.
Here is a Texas concealed carry license.
http://pointblanksg.com/wp-content/uploads/2016-02-01LTCLicense.jpg
Here is the Texas drivers license front and back.
http://www.agavedesign.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/driverslicense1.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--GjOvP26PTM/USvkoBWHiCI/AAAAAAAAAa4/vr0TRee0BXQ/s1600/DriversLicense.png
Note that both the Texas drivers license and the Texas handgun carry license are already RealID!
This is how government inertia works. It's simply easier to make everything the same. If the government is going to set up drivers licenses to be "RealID compliant", why the hell would it go out of its way to make concealed carry licenses or any other license it issues not RealID compliant? Short answer? It wouldn't! We are being suckered.
I remember the day when drivers licenses didn't have photos on them. I remember the day when social security cards said on them "These cannot be used as identification." Now you have to present a social security card to get a RealID compliant machine readable ID with your picture on it. And the problem with pushing for government issued photo ID for voting is that's just one more sphere where we're being told we have to have a government issued RealID! I hear the jackass talk show host pundits say "Well you have to have an ID to get on a plane so why not for voting?" I shouldn't have to have an ID to get on a plane! 9/11 didn't happen because of a lack of photo ID. Hell, the CIA under Bush was waving terrorists into the country and that has been admitted! The Obama administration purposefully let the underwear bomber on the plane and that has been admitted!
Here is the bottom line. The government is using fear to take over more and more of our lives. It doesn't matter if it's fear over "refer madness" or fear over terrorism or fear over illegal immigrants taking jobs or committing crimes or fear over liberal block voting taking away liberty, when conservatives are just as anti liberty! "Hey! Let's have more gubmit control to protect us from gubmit control!" That's crazy as hell!