Harvey Watch

[goldenequity]

48hr landfall. Pin hole eye. Harvey now a Hurricane.

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[goldenequity]

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[pcosmar]

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Cat 3 is a good breeze. But it will make a mess.

[Carlybee]

battening down the hatches. My husband is on the rideout team at work so he won't be home with me when it comes through.

[goldenequity]

battening down the hatches. My husband is on the rideout team at work so he won't be home with me when it comes through.
Keep us posted Carlybee :)

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too many... it stalls the thread.

[goldenequity]

Some coastal live cams

http://www.sopadre.com/about-us/live-webcams/north-beach/
http://www.sopadre.com/about-us/live-webcams/south-beach/
http://www.sopadre.com/about-us/live-webcams/causeway/

[donnay]

battening down the hatches. My husband is on the rideout team at work so he won't be home with me when it comes through.

My son is in Galveston. I showed my son how to make a rocket stove so if the electricity goes out he can cook or boil water--etc... Rocket stoves are the best.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQyU4lokVe4

Be safe!

[Zippyjuan]

Cat 3 is a good breeze. But it will make a mess.

Moving slow too which could mean tons of rain dumped in some areas. Sister is in Corpus Christi.

[JohnCifelli1]

Moving slow too which could mean tons of rain dumped in some areas. Sister is in Corpus Christi.

Yes, the rainfall is what is going to be remembered. Even when it was expected to be just a tropical storm, the rain was expected to be prolific. Now it's a slow moving, even stalling Cat3 with a giant water and fuel source to feed off right next to where it will stall. This could be one of the worst flooding events of our lifetimes.

[Carlybee]

My son is in Galveston. I showed my son how to make a rocket stove so if the electricity goes out he can cook or boil water--etc... Rocket stoves are the best.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQyU4lokVe4

Be safe!


We have a couple of these if need be. Hope your son does well. Galveston could get some gnarly storm surge.

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[Carlybee]

From our local weather


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[Anti Federalist]

Hope Ron and family are hunkered down, Lake Jackson will get a ton of rain and wind.

[Carlybee]

Hope Ron and family are hunkered down, Lake Jackson will get a ton of rain and wind.

Yep...parts of Brazoria County are being evacuated.

[Anti Federalist]

Yep...parts of Brazoria County are being evacuated.

Without being too specific, which side of Houston are you on?

[Carlybee]

Without being too specific, which side of Houston are you on?

I am in the central southwest side near the Galleria area. Basically deep in the heart of.

[donnay]

Got you all in my prayers.

[KEEF]

Got family in Katy and Galveston.

[Schifference]

Anyone that is thinking of putting sandbags on their property hoping to divert the water had better go to the city this morning and get the proper permits.

[Carlybee]

Got family in Katy and Galveston.

Katy should be okay other than some heavy rain. The west end of Galveston is already getting water over the road. Corpus and surrounding area will get the brunt. We'll get flooding.

[Carlybee]

Got you all in my prayers.

Thanks Donnay

[Origanalist]

William Tell is down in Texas. Hope you all stay safe.

[KEEF]

Katy should be okay other than some heavy rain. The west end of Galveston is already getting water over the road. Corpus and surrounding area will get the brunt. We'll get flooding.
Thanks, be safe!

[goldenequity]

At the NHC 4am update (central time) it was 967 mb.
Sea level pressure now 953 mb. Gonna need a new term for RI+++

Cat 3 964-945 mb
Cat 4 944-920 mb

Still 19 hours to go before landfall. Oh dear.

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HoustonWeatherNerd washingtonian115
Absolutely NO ONE is telling the Houston area to evacuate. Not one local official.
In Galveston, yes. It's about an hour and a half minimum from where I am to the coast.
If we all evacuated it would be 100x worse than Rita. I'm not going through that again.

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ECMWF from last night showing 20 foot waves on top of a 10-15 foot surge. Yikes. ECMWF wave model data

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[Ender]

Got you all in my prayers.

Same- stay safe everyone!

[goldenequity]

'Worst Case' Double Landfall Model


Katrina came and went,
the damage was after landfall when the storm surge started flooding.
Winds will tear things up and throw projectiles
but water rising with high tide,
20+ foot storm surge
and rainfall of 50+ inches with already saturated ground
is not salvageable. Let alone twice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XMNflJy-UQ

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CURRENT
Key Messages:

1. Harvey is expected to be a major hurricane when it makes landfall
tonight, bringing life-threatening storm surge, rainfall, and wind
hazards to portions of the Texas coast. Preparations should be
rushed to completion in the warning areas as tropical-storm-force
winds are arriving on the coast, and conditions will continue to
deteriorate through the rest of today and tonight.

2. A Storm Surge Warning is in effect for much of the Texas coast.
Life-threatening storm surge flooding could reach heights of 6 to 12
feet above ground level at the coast between the north entrance of
the Padre Island National Seashore and Sargent. For a depiction of
areas at risk, see the Storm Surge Watch/Warning Graphic at
hurricanes.gov. Due to the slow motion of Harvey and a prolonged
period of onshore flow, water levels will remain elevated for
several days.

3. Catastrophic and life-threatening flooding is expected across the
middle and upper Texas coast from heavy rainfall of 15 to 25 inches,
with isolated amounts as high as 35 inches, through Wednesday.
Please refer to products from your local National Weather Service
office and the NOAA Weather Prediction Center for more information
on the flooding hazard.

4. The Potential Storm Surge Flooding Map is available on the NHC
website. This product depicts a reasonable worst-case scenario -
the amount of inundation that has a 10 percent chance of being
exceeded at each individual location. This map best represents
the flooding potential in those locations within the watch and
warning areas.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 25/1500Z 26.7N 96.0W 95 KT 110 MPH
12H 26/0000Z 27.6N 96.8W 105 KT 120 MPH
24H 26/1200Z 28.4N 97.3W 90 KT 105 MPH...INLAND
36H 27/0000Z 28.8N 97.5W 70 KT 80 MPH...INLAND
48H 27/1200Z 28.9N 97.6W 55 KT 65 MPH...INLAND
72H 28/1200Z 28.3N 96.8W 35 KT 40 MPH...INLAND
96H 29/1200Z 28.5N 95.5W 40 KT 45 MPH...OVER WATER
120H 30/1200Z 30.0N 94.5W 40 KT 45 MPH...INLAND

[jllundqu]

Since we haven't had a major hurricane make US landfall in 12 years, do we still have to listen to the god damned global warming alarmists after this one hits?

[Anti Federalist]

Since we haven't had a major hurricane make US landfall in 12 years, do we still have to listen to the god damned global warming alarmists after this one hits?

I tried to watch some Weather Channel earlier.

Impossible.

They are spun up and out of control.

This severe weather over-reaction has just gotten insane, just like everything else in AmeriKa anymore. That's the only storm I'm concerned about, the vast, swirling, Cat5 storm of retardation.

Yeah, it's a bad storm, gonna cause a lot of damage.

It is not the Apocalypse nor an earth ending, mass extinction event.

[Raginfridus]

Moving slow too which could mean tons of rain dumped in some areas. Sister is in Corpus Christi.I hope she and others in Harvey's way have what they need and stay safe.


Since we haven't had a major hurricane make US landfall in 12 years, do we still have to listen to the god damned global warming alarmists after this one hits?You're supposed to believe carbon in the atmosphere change deep currents, not the other way around, and Gawd forbid the sun exerts more influence over climate change than cow farts. Come to think of it, I haven't seen any protests against the sun's capricious and patriarchal dominance over us.

[goldenequity]

Live Cams

Galveston Pier 61
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VoL5PMVRfE

http://www.pleasurepier.com/piercam.html


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[Carlybee]

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[enhanced_deficit]

Let's hope eveyone will be safe.

Looking at some news after last major hurricane, let's hope there will be no reckless statements this time related to US foreign policy and Bush's home state. Humans cannot comprehend Acts of God, TX is also home of CUFI.

Shas rabbi: Hurricane is Bush's punishment for pullout support
www.haaretz.com › News
Sep 7, 2005 - Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, a former chief rabbi and the spiritual leader of the ultra-Orthodox ... said on Wednesday that Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment for U.S. President George W. Bush's support for Israel's Gaza pullout.

[Carlybee]

Let's hope eveyone will be safe.

Looking at some news after last major hurricane, let's hope there will be no reckless statements this time related to US foreign policy and Bush's home state. Humans cannot comprehend Acts of God, TX is also home of CUFI.

Shas rabbi: Hurricane is Bush's punishment for pullout support
www.haaretz.com › News
Sep 7, 2005 - Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, a former chief rabbi and the spiritual leader of the ultra-Orthodox ... said on Wednesday that Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment for U.S. President George W. Bush's support for Israel's Gaza pullout.


meh...sticks n stones

[phill4paul]

Just reached Cat 4 and about to make landfall. This one is gonna drop a lot of water over the next coupla days.

[Madison320]

Just reached Cat 4 and about to make landfall. This one is gonna drop a lot of water over the next coupla days.

I just saw that so I put it on CNN to get an update. No luck, they're taking about Trump! Arghhhh!

[goldenequity]

good updating here:

https://twitter.com/TxStormChasers
https://twitter.com/RyanMaue
https://twitter.com/TropicalTidbits



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Live Commentary/updating - CBS Corpus Christi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTXQVOtroIQ



Wind Map

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-94.84,27.37,2695

[goldenequity]

The now famous 'blue shed' :)

start @ +/- 1:11:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMuvRfSvzx0

[donnay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6pIvDqw0t8

Watch Live: Hurricane Harvey batters Galveston, Texas

[Carlybee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6pIvDqw0t8

Watch Live: Hurricane Harvey batters Galveston, Texas

I don't know why that says Galveston, it looks like Corpus to Port Aransas near where it made landfall.

[donnay]

I don't know why that says Galveston, it looks like Corpus to Port Aransas near where it made landfall.

Yeah, I was watching this a little while ago for some boots on the ground live coverage.

East side wind damage.

[goldenequity]

Rockport footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alIoo_BGFQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjBOhBGyDjo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptx4PEGwGkg






Fulton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fpe19Lw5lw



I'm seeing the end of this mess is Wednesday, the rain totals will be bigger than forecasted.

....a slow motion disaster that is going to get to extreme levels over the next few days.

Brazos River rising faster than expected.

Rockport Emergency Operations Center had 3 feet of water. ...now on Sat uplink #Harvey

[PRB]

Hurricanes are natural, it's not global warming, chill the hell out.

[PRB]

Rockport footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alIoo_BGFQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjBOhBGyDjo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptx4PEGwGkg






Fulton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fpe19Lw5lw

So cool to see people suffering a natural disaster. That's what they deserve for living where they do, Katrina and Sandy clearly taught them nothing and it's all the government's fault they can't live elsewhere. Luckily it's fiscally responsible Texas so nobody will be asking for FEMA or federal government help.

[PRB]

Who's excited for all the JOBS created by this mess?

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Who's excited for all the JOBS created by this mess?


You?

[euphemia]

Who's excited for all the JOBS created by this mess?

Not the time, dude. Really, not the time.

[Carlybee]

They are saying we may have 15" of rain by tomorrow morning. We had a water rescue on our street earlier.

[goldenequity]

People climbing into attics to escape rising water in Houston
http://abc13.com/weather/officials-people-climbing-into-attics-to-escape-floodwaters-in-houston/2346494/

The Weather Channel @weatherchannel
NEW: A FLASH FLOOD EMERGENCY has been issued for South Houston to Pasadena to Friendswood. GET OFF THE ROADS #Harvey

Dickinson Emergency Management is advising all citizens to remain where you are. All roads in Dickinson are under water and not passable

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I count more than 40 spots where Houston area waterways are spilling over their banks. This has become a catastrophic situation. #harvey

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Here in Pasadena its bad, i am 4 hours from bayou. The water went up to my windows, the sandbags held fine but it was my backyard ( which has NEVER flooded in my 24 years here). I had to leave to an apartment that is directly across the street from my house. I am in 2nd story now. If anyone wants a pic of this swamp i am in, id love to share but i don't know how on this website. Water is up to my chest when i crossed the street. i am short though at 5ft 6. The roof of the apt i am staying in collapsed from rain. sorry i took a long time to make an update, was busy getting valuables across the street. I hope every in houston is safe. i regret not evacuating



8/27 5:15 AM Unprecedented Flash Flood Emergency Event Continues for Houston Metro

For those of you just waking up to the news – an unprecedented flood is underway across the Houston Metro. Rainfall amounts of nearly 30 inches have fallen across parts of the Houston metro over the last 24 hours – over half of it within the last 8 hours. Houston is under water in what will become the worst flood event in Texas state history and one of the worst United States flooding disasters in modern history. Additional rainfall totals of 20 to 30 inches are expected through Thursday – for a storm total of 45 to 60 inches in parts of Southeast Texas. This is only the beginning of this flood event and I’m afraid that we truly cannot imagine how much more severe it will become.

https://www.texasstormchasers.com/2017/08/27/827-515-unprecedented-flash-flood-emergency-event-continues-houston-metro/



The official track forecast is close to the latest model consensus
and brings the center to the coast, then briefly, just offshore of southeastern Texas.
At this time, it is not expected that Harvey will move far enough out over thewater to result in regeneration.

The biggest concern with Harvey is now the rain, a lot of rain.
Rainfall totals of nearly 20 inches have been reported in the Houston area.
This is resulting in catastrophic flooding which unfortunately, will continue for some time.






WATCH LIVE: KHOU Live Video

http://www.khou.com/news/live_stream/khou-live-video/94483732

archived: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naAdjGRm58U
current live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWuk5BgKUO8









Houston Metro... boat rescues underway.

NWSHouston says 5 dead in Houston area flooding. More than 1,000 water rescues. 23" in 24 hours in some cases TXwx

NWSHouston telling people not to go to your attic. Go to the roof and call 911 and keep calling. (If attic, bring an axe.)

Houston mayor said if you chose not to evacuate.... to write your name and social on your arm.

All Pubic Transportation suspended. Buses and Rail are all closed down. Houston is paralyzed.

Storm is stalled (as predicted) rains going to continue for the next 5-6 days.

It is hard to overstate. All signs point to the worst flood on record for the Houston metro area.

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[Schifference]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWjlUfLqKcc

[Carlybee]

http://abc13.com/weather/car-completely-submerged-near-white-oak-bayou/2346566/

[euphemia]

Florida is getting hammered as an offshiot of Harvey. Less wind, as I understand, but there is a lot of flooding. Praying for first responders in those areas. What a mess.

[euphemia]

Interestingly enough, I have not heard one single interview with the liberal mayor of Houston. Not one. If any city needs a plan, it's Houston, and it sure looks like they have no leadership in place.

[Carlybee]

Interestingly enough, I have not heard one single interview with the liberal mayor of Houston. Not one. If any city needs a plan, it's Houston, and it sure looks like they have no leadership in place.

He's actually done a decent job throughout this and I'm no lib. With a possible 50" of rain in a city built on bayous, not sure anyone could have much of a plan but given that we have had catastrophic flooding before we are about as prepared as we can be. We had natl guard, state guard, and coast guard in ahead of the storm..we just have a lot of low lying places and a kajillion waterways all over their banks.

[euphemia]

I'm glad you all feel you are being taken care of. I guess the msm is aiding and abetting bad choices of some people in the city. I don't hear of a lot of looting or anything, so I guess that's a good thing. I guess there's too much water for anyone to really get out.

Florida got the eastern edge of the rain. Bradenton was under water last night. Emergency Services lines were shut down, and no recovery wrecker teams were going out because it was too dangerous.

[Carlybee]

I'm glad you all feel you are being taken care of. I guess the msm is aiding and abetting bad choices of some people in the city. I don't hear of a lot of looting or anything, so I guess that's a good thing. I guess there's too much water for anyone to really get out.

Florida got the eastern edge of the rain. Bradenton was under water last night. Emergency Services lines were shut down, and no recovery wrecker teams were going out because it was too dangerous.

There were rescue teams in place last night but its so bad even the buses can't run. There are always the stupid few who drive through areas they shouldnt. We've had over 2000 water rescues, many from subdivisions that flood all the time but this is unprecedented. All in all Turner has been the voice of reason surprisingly, along with the director of emergency mgmt.

[euphemia]

I'm glad you and your family are okay. Really glad.

[goldenequity]

15 rescued from Dickinson nursing home
http://www.galvnews.com/news/free/article_e1ffff8e-435d-5c78-ab46-57d6bc7dc6a5.html

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/galvnews.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/0a/d0a26bdc-ec0b-50ff-af7e-a06aa603b48a/59a2fe27b730c.image.jpg


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KHOU evacuated their building...

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and moved to the Federal Reserve and are broadcasting again.

Relocated/Rebroadcasting

http://www.khou.com/news/live_stream/khou-live-video/94483732

Ytbe Live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWwqIO_4VNw


Coast Guard bringing in crews from all over the US to help with HoustonFlooding - 6 helicopters, multiple ground crews working.

Houston Med Center underwater, septic issue causing flooding in Ben Taub basement. Affecting food and supplies

Hobby Airport says about 500 people are trapped.


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►Gov Abbott live: (http://www.khou.com/weather/houston-weather-forecast/62951506) (ended)
http://www.khou.com/weather/houston-weather-forecast/62951506
Wheelchair: Gov Abbott became paralyzed when a tree fell on him when he was running after a "STORM" in the 1980's


Gov. Press Conference:

Don't forget the challenges people are suffering in other places besides Houston.

Emphasize the importance of staying off the road.

Always try to seek high ground.

Emphasize that there will be locations that will continue to have tornado action.

National Guard & State Guard - 3,000 activated. Serving from Houston to Victoria to Corpus and in between.

TexDot has 400 activated already clearing roads.

Ferry service to Port Aransas being reinstalled.

Electronic message boards are reporting real time info on road closures.

PUCO says 16,000 outages - less than yesterday, but does not include Houston today.

TCQ working on Corpus water samples to help get them off of boiling water. Hope it'll come soon.

Task force 1 & 2 - Tex. Div of Emergency Management. 400 members primarily working on SAR. Throughout the entire area.

SAR missions and other assistance - assistance is pouring in from around country. Including helicopters. Neb. Ten. Ut. Cali. Mo. Oh. Ariz. NY plus federal resources.

Deep gratitude to fellow Americans for their aid.

Tex. Parks & Wildlife - 100 game wardens working w/help from La. and Fl. on water rescue missions.

Tex Dept of Pub. Safety - 1750 officers working in the area. Close to 500 DPS officers assigned in Houston.

Red Cross - serving about 130,000 meals a day. Heavy in Corpus and Houston.

Best way to help Texans in need is through the Red Cross. Redcross.org and 1-800-RED-CROSS to offer help.

Health Team - sending 92 ambulances to Houston area. And a mobile medical unit - which is a stand alone hospital facility.

Transportation - moving 100's of evacuees to safe locations. 25 buses presoria county, 60 at Tully stadium and will take assignments from local authorities to gather evacuees.

DPS communications station set up in Rockport for all first responders. Covers Aransas county and Ingleside. Others are being set up, including Harris Cty.

Coastal Region activity - Troopers in several counties have assigned about 250 DPS officers. handling security and rescue operations. Working with local leaders.
Set up regional distribution centers for food delivery locations - ready to go by tomorrow in multiple areas.

The calvary is coming!!

Vice Admiral Carl Shultz w/USCG:
Part of the DHS team to support Texas and FEMA. Actively engaged. First moved units to safety so they could be available. Units coming from across the country. Pushing more boats in from around the country. Full efforts of the entire USCG.

Need the capability of civilians aiding in rescue efforts.

Governor:

Top priority is to protect human life. Working with local officials to do everythnig they can.

Will be very agressive in the rebuilding process. It will be a long process, but will get it done. Because they have a very strong federal partner.

Q&A:

Is this gonna be Katrina Pt. 2?
Too early for that. What's important is for everyone to work together and then help rebuild.

Some places not getting assistance?

We've provided every asset they've asked for. Air, boats, etc. We stand ready to provide more. Plus DPS and Nat'l guard in full operation mode.

Fatalities question:

Not able to provide that yet.

Numbber of rescues:

Hard to keep track of their doing. Will collect that data later.

Compare this to other disasters:

It's the strongest storm in Texas since 1961 and the pop. is larger now. Plus the size of the storm. Wind and rain components. It's a very large disaster. Proud that the federal gov't has responded to quickly to provide all the aid that Texas is asking for. Same for eveything Houston is asking for.

Have called the mayor multiple times and have left voicemails letting him know that they will provide whatever they need.

Conflict over evacuation:

Have spoken with county judge daily but we've moved beyond whether there should have been an evacuation or not. Focus on saving people.

How many USCG:
8 helicopters in air.

Expanded federal something:

As of now, I've made a state disaster declaration for 50 counties. Federal declaration for 19. Already approved by POTUS. There will be more federal declarations coming.


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[phill4paul]

Yeah, this was a bad one. I'm hoping all my RPF friends and their loved ones are making do and uninjured.

The flooding is terrible. It's not always about the wind. I wonder if Fed. Gov. will deny them 99% of requested natural disaster aid like they did to N.C. after Matthew.

[goldenequity]

European Model (has been consistent 'worst case' model)

Update: #Harvey still forecast to move back over the Gulf on Mon, then 2nd landfall in #Houston on Wed morning before finally moving away.
Second landfall over Houston early Wednesday of near Hurricane #Harvey distinct and nightmarish possibility. Huge fetch of tropical moisture
Southeast TX: the EURO says you may still be dealing with feeder bands next Sat, a week from now! #Harvey #flood





92L (tropical depression still)


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New 12z EURO shows a strong hurricane entering the Northern Caribbean/ Bahamas

18z models for 92L...
Pretty good consensus for a Carolinas landfall.

Invest 92L will likely become Tropical Storm #Irma either today or Monday off the Southeast coast.
It will likely make a direct hit on NC.

[PRB]

Not the time, dude. Really, not the time.

you mad bro?

[PRB]

Yeah, this was a bad one. I'm hoping all my RPF friends and their loved ones are making do and uninjured.

The flooding is terrible. It's not always about the wind. I wonder if Fed. Gov. will deny them 99% of requested natural disaster aid like they did to N.C. after Matthew.

Why shouldn't the federal government deny aid? what happened to personal responsibility? Don't know you FEMA does more harm than good? Don't you know FREE MARKET is the best way to help people? Haven't you read MISES and AYN RAND?

[phill4paul]

Why shouldn't the federal government deny aid? what happened to personal responsibility? Don't know you FEMA does more harm than good? Don't you know FREE MARKET is the best way to help people? Haven't you read MISES and AYN RAND?

I don't really care personally. I use denial of Fed. aid as a teaching moment for others. I'm an agorist that does what he can not to participate.

[PRB]

I don't really care personally. I use denial of Fed. aid as a teaching moment for others. I'm an agorist that does what he can not to participate.

yep. agreed.

[Carlybee]

Yeah, this was a bad one. I'm hoping all my RPF friends and their loved ones are making do and uninjured.

The flooding is terrible. It's not always about the wind. I wonder if Fed. Gov. will deny them 99% of requested natural disaster aid like they did to N.C. after Matthew.

we already had fed aid ahead of the storm

[euphemia]

You still okay, Carly?

Looking at the pictures of Houston and thinking about what happened here in 2010, I think it will be worse for us next time. Our mayor, Megan Barry, is making herself wealthy paving over every single greenspace here in the metropolitan Nashville area. There will really be nowhere for water to go.

[enhanced_deficit]

Pretty severe impact, some photos out of TX assisted living facility are shocking:


https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/galvnews.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/0a/d0a26bdc-ec0b-50ff-af7e-a06aa603b48a/59a2fe27b730c.image.jpg

[Danke]

Pretty severe impact, some photos out of TX assisted living facility are shocking:


https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/galvnews.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/0a/d0a26bdc-ec0b-50ff-af7e-a06aa603b48a/59a2fe27b730c.image.jpg


All the The popcorn is gone!!!

[navy-vet]

All the The popcorn is gone!!!

Popcorn machine in a nursing home? Isn't that kind of like a gum ball machine in a lockjaw ward?

[goldenequity]

This has got to stop. Build that WALL dammit.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIUqIMXW0AEYLND.jpg


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIS4F4JWsAA14QI.jpg:large

[euphemia]

The pictures are mind boggling.

Back when Katrina hit, I was working with a group of girls ages 9-12. One of them called me and said, Mrs. Euphemia, I see all this happening and we have to do something. So she got on the phone with the rest of the girls and we had plenty of food, cleaning supplies, gently loved books and toys, and a lot of other things on one of the first trucks going into Mississippi.

After that, we talked about being prepared in a hurry for something like that in our community. We talked about what we'd need for ourselves and our families, and the girls were smart enough to consider what they would do about pets. They considered how to care for an animal in a crisis, and they included things like leashes and pet food as part of their escape plan. They each brought a backpack filled with things they would need and put on a demonstration for their parents. They also talked about what they would do if they were stranded at home with no power or running water. They included that as part of their plan.

I was pleasantly surprised at their thinking, and I think it is really good idea for families to have these kinds of discussions with their families and friends.

[shakey1]

Hawk catches a cab during storm.
https://cdn2.newsok.biz/cache/sq500-7471a40ba00e08008612173e675192d9.jpg

[donnay]

Pretty severe impact, some photos out of TX assisted living facility are shocking:


https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/galvnews.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/0a/d0a26bdc-ec0b-50ff-af7e-a06aa603b48a/59a2fe27b730c.image.jpg

Unacceptable! Heads need to roll for this absolute travesty.

[Danke]

Unacceptable! Heads need to roll for this absolute travesty.

Looks like they left them with plenty of bottled water.

[sparebulb]

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/galvnews.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/0a/d0a26bdc-ec0b-50ff-af7e-a06aa603b48a/59a2fe27b730c.image.jpg

http://static.snopes.com/app/uploads/2013/09/the_tourist_guy1.jpg

Pictures are fun.

[oyarde]

All the The popcorn is gone!!!

If you look closely near the bottles of water on the table there are a few dry bits of kibble dog food .

[goldenequity]

Ryan Maue RyanMaue

Current rainfall totals across E. Texas from #Harvey now in 14-15 Trillion gallon range.
NWS forecasts 5-6T more = 20,000,000,000,000 total.

NWS Houston
A record daily max rainfall of 16.07" was set at Houston Intercontinental yesterday, breaking the old record of 8.32" set in 1945.

disqus_TMWKmM3DOs • 2 minutes ago
The wind is really picking up here now, since Harvey is back over water. Hasn't stopped raining at all ... This is getting worse here in Fort Bend County again

Levi Cowan @TropicalTidbits
As Harvey's circulation begins to intersect the Gulf of Mexico again, convection is appearing near the center as surface fluxes increase.
(a rejuvenated 'center' would head toward LA/east but 'bands' would catch Houston... again)

==========


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[PRB]

Pretty severe impact, some photos out of TX assisted living facility are shocking:


https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/galvnews.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/0a/d0a26bdc-ec0b-50ff-af7e-a06aa603b48a/59a2fe27b730c.image.jpg

1. date on newspaper is wrong
2. why do they still have electricity? wouldn't you short circuit or be electrocuted by now?
3. yeah, i'm just going to stay calm and keep knitting.

[Danke]

I'm stuck at Houston Airport.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/28/18/43A6FF1C00000578-4830676-image-a-47_1503941001771.jpg

[Danke]

1. date on newspaper is wrong
2. why do they still have electricity? wouldn't you short circuit or be electrocuted by now?
3. yeah, i'm just going to stay calm and keep knitting.

Was that from some commercial? And how can you make out the date?


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/28/us/nursing-home-houston-texas.html

http://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/08/what_we_know_about_the_photo_o.html

the light could be on a separate breaker.

[oyarde]

1. date on newspaper is wrong
2. why do they still have electricity? wouldn't you short circuit or be electrocuted by now?
3. yeah, i'm just going to stay calm and keep knitting.

I do not think they get current newspapers at the assisted living place.

[oyarde]

I'm stuck at Houston Airport.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/28/18/43A6FF1C00000578-4830676-image-a-47_1503941001771.jpg

Whats on the menu today at the airport ?

[phill4paul]

Was that from some commercial? And how can you make out the date?


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/28/us/nursing-home-houston-texas.html

http://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/08/what_we_know_about_the_photo_o.html

the light could be on a separate breaker.

C'mon. The photos are finally coming out. I suppose you will claim this was water aerobics day at Danke's Home for Wayward Women.

[phill4paul]

Whats on the menu today at the airport ?

Sea Bass and fried Gator nuggets.

[Danke]

Whats on the menu today at the airport ?

Maize.

[oyarde]

Maize.

Maybe in the mexican highlands there might still be some original type maize but the corn today is a bit different . Mostly I just consume bicolor sweet corn . Last time I bought some sweet corn at an HEB in San Antonio it was kind of expensive . If you run short on funds let us know.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Beware of the Red Fin Shark.



I'm stuck at Houston Airport.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/28/18/43A6FF1C00000578-4830676-image-a-47_1503941001771.jpg

[oyarde]

Maize.

Rumors are Michigan will be wearing all Maize uniforms at Florida for opening game this weekend .

[sparebulb]

Pretty severe impact, some photos out of TX assisted living facility are shocking:


https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/galvnews.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/0a/d0a26bdc-ec0b-50ff-af7e-a06aa603b48a/59a2fe27b730c.image.jpg

My dumbass local tv station (part of Sinclair Broadcasting) is reporting this as a real story.

All I know is that my elderly parent needs the room temperature in the high 70's and is bundled up in a sweater and a thick throw blanket all of the time. Being submerged in water would lead to death in a short amount of time for elderly people with heart and other ailments.

If this is not a hoax, someone running that place should have their asses kicked.

[Jamesiv1]

My dumbass local tv station (part of Sinclair Broadcasting) is reporting this as a real story.

All I know is that my elderly parent needs the room temperature in the high 70's and is bundled up in a sweater and a thick throw blanket all of the time. Being submerged in water would lead to death in a short amount of time for elderly people with heart and other ailments.

If this is not a hoax, someone running that place should have their asses kicked.
Anybody that thinks its wrong for senior citizens to eat Kibbles-n-Bits while knitting during a flood can get the hell out.

[phill4paul]

My dumbass local tv station (part of Sinclair Broadcasting) is reporting this as a real story.

All I know is that my elderly parent needs the room temperature in the high 70's and is bundled up in a sweater and a thick throw blanket all of the time. Being submerged in water would lead to death in a short amount of time for elderly people with heart and other ailments.

If this is not a hoax, someone running that place should have their asses kicked.

It's not a hoax as far as I know. They have been rescued and are all "doing fine." The Coast Guard got to them about three hours after the pic was tweeted.


“They are all doing fine,” said McIntosh, who defended facility owner, Trudy Lampson, who some accused on social media of not evacuating the facility on time. He said Lampson had made arrangements to evacuate the residents, but local authorities told her to stay put.

“The nursing home had to follow protocol because it’s a big ordeal to evacuate it,” he said. “These ladies are on wheelchairs and most of them on oxygen.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/residents-in-photo-of-flooded-nursing-home-are-doing-fine/2017/08/28/6331ea38-8c37-11e7-9c53-6a169beb0953_story.html?utm_term=.103c26382f3a

[oyarde]

I hope Danke is careful , the food and water should run out at the airport in another day and then the cannibalism starts .........

[Danke]

I hope Danke is careful , the food and water should run out at the airport in another day and then the cannibalism starts .........


I didn't know Injuns can't swim. It has already started.

Edit: those might have been Mexicans, I don't know they all look-alike.

[oyarde]

I didn't know Injuns can't swim. It has already started.

If you could have just had time to be taken in by the Dog Eater Comanche band ( Arapaho that joined Comanche that live in the Indian Territory ) they may have come to Buffalo Wallow ( Houston ) to save you . Gonna be tough . Hope you have a sturdy War Club.

[Carlybee]

I hope Danke is careful , the food and water should run out at the airport in another day and then the cannibalism starts .........

It's okay, the Cajun navy is here..they can rescue him.

[Swordsmyth]

Harvey is also displacing snakes, fire ants and gators
As Tropical Storm Harvey continues to drench Southeast Texas and flood Houston and surrounding communities, people aren’t the only ones seeking higher ground. The area’s wild animal inhabitants are, too.
Reports and images of swimming snakes and lurking alligators are making the rounds on social media, and some are neither current (like these fast-circulating 2016 alligator photos (https://twitter.com/FBCSO/status/900793654192869376/photo/1)) nor real (such as this fake photo of a shark (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2017/08/28/no-the-shark-picture-isnt-real-a-running-list-of-harveys-viral-hoaxes/?utm_term=.840b58be191e&tid=sm_tw) that most definitely was not swimming down a waterlogged city freeway).
But the Houston metropolitan area is home to thousands of American alligators that reside in hundreds of miles of streams and bayous; more than 20 species of snakes; billions of invasive fire ants; and plenty of deer, raccoons and other critters — all of which are struggling to escape the rising waters. With no Noah’s Ark to ferry them away, they’re showing up in some unusual spots, Texas wildlife officials and professionals say. Those same people add that despite the fearsome reputation of some animals, there’s no reason to panic.
“In Houston, you’ve got pretty much two things: Where you build, which is higher, and where you don’t build, which is low. Wildlife is going to seek the higher areas, which happens to be the places where we build,” said Kelly Norrid, an urban wildlife biologist for Texas Parks and Wildlife. “Mammals that don’t want to be in the water … may end up being in your attic or garage.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/animalia/wp/2017/08/28/harvey-is-also-displacing-snakes-fire-ants-and-gators/?utm_term=.d152f5669c6b

[goldenequity]

902308694578352128


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIWk-FMWsAEbuug.jpg

[oyarde]

I didn't know Injuns can't swim. It has already started.

Edit: those might have been Mexicans, I don't know they all look-alike.

Probably Tejanos , even the mexicans know to keep an eye on them .

[Swordsmyth]

Hurricane Harvey: Here's Why Texans Might Need To File Insurance Claims ASAP
Hurricane Harvey (http://www.essence.com/news/hurricane-harvey-tropical-storm) just made landfall Friday night, but lawyers and a consumer watchdog groups are urging (http://www.chron.com/news/politics/texas/article/Lawyers-urge-Texans-to-file-notice-of-claims-12051895.php) victims of the storm to file insurance claims before a new law takes effect on Friday.
House Bill 1774 (http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillLookup/Text.aspx?LegSess=85R&Bill=HB1774#http://), which goes into effect Sept. 1, advocates for insurance companies to limit lawsuit abuses, Chron (http://www.chron.com/news/politics/texas/article/Lawyers-urge-Texans-to-file-notice-of-claims-12051895.php) reports. Opponents of the law say it will limit homeowner’s ability to hold insurance companies accountable when they take an unreasonable amount of time to pay for claims or underpay and wrongfully deny authentic claims. The law also reduces the amount of interest insurance companies will have to pay homeowners if the claim takes too long to settle.
Will Adams, vice president of legislative affairs for the Texas Trial Lawyers Association said (https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas-legislature/2017/08/28/lawyers-harvey-victims-file-insurance-claims-law-changes-sept-1-risk-losing-money), “There is nothing about this bill that helps policy holders. Everything about this bill makes it harder for policyholders to hold insurance companies accountable."
However, Republican Senator Kelly Hancock (http://www.senate.texas.gov/member.php?d=9) who sponsored the legislation, claims (https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas-legislature/2017/08/28/lawyers-harvey-victims-file-insurance-claims-law-changes-sept-1-risk-losing-money) lawyers are misleading homeowners. "There is no need to rush to file a claim. Put your safety first. Do not return to seriously-damaged property unless you are informed that it is safe," Hancock said.

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/style/hurricane-harvey-apos-why-texans-205343046.html

[goldenequity]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Acap3IrCYYk


Hurricane Harvey: Here's Why Texans Might Need To File Insurance Claims ASAP
Hurricane Harvey (http://www.essence.com/news/hurricane-harvey-tropical-storm)

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/style/hurricane-harvey-apos-why-texans-205343046.html

muh file cabinet.

[goldenequity]

current dopler capture

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/goldenequity/zzzdopler.jpg

[Carlybee]

I was actually able to get out for a while yesterday but hightailed it back quickly. Still raining but hope this thing is outta here by tonight.

5845

[goldenequity]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjGqJNGcAKY

[goldenequity]

902539081841827842

Brazoria Breach
In Brazoria County south of Houston, the Brazos River was beginning to overflow its banks.
On Tuesday morning, a levee breached in the Columbia Lakes neighborhood.
"breach" means: the water is now actively eroding.
This is uncontrolled release.


Fox just showed a live rescue of a guy in a flatbed truck. The guy just made it out,
the truck is now almost completely covered and the water came up so fast as we were watching on tv.

Harvey floodwaters overflow Houston reservoir, separate levee breach reported (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/29/harvey-floodwaters-put-houston-reservoirs-in-uncharted-territory.html)
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/29/harvey-floodwaters-put-houston-reservoirs-in-uncharted-territory.html

RESERVOIRS
Engineers began releasing water from the Addicks and Barker reservoirs Monday to ease the strain on the dams.
But the releases were not enough to relieve the pressure

902557846302273536




Rainfall intensifying and looks to be on its way to Houston. Another 15 inches minimum before the day is out.

http://i.imgur.com/91SPavg.gif

Bridge has collapsed over Greens Bayou at Woodforest Blvd. and Normandy.




George R. Brown Convention Center rapidly approaches double original capacity for #Harvey evacuees....over 9,000
The Convention Center is downtown.... in the path of the (now) uncontrolled reservoir releases...
the 1st floor evacuees may have to move to 2nd/3rd floors.

LIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWwqIO_4VNw

[Danke]

I'm stuck at Houston Airport.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/28/18/43A6FF1C00000578-4830676-image-a-47_1503941001771.jpg


More rain today.

[goldenequity]

What happens when you live interview someone who is not a crisis actor. :eek:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIGJMaJeTGo

[dannno]

What happens when you live interview someone who is not a crisis actor. :eek:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIGJMaJeTGo

lol, she didn't ask if she wanted to be interviewed first?

[Jamesiv1]

What happens when you live interview someone who is not a crisis actor. :eek:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIGJMaJeTGoYup. Big Difference. People in shock and distress don't want a cute chick with microphone in their face. It's like, "Why don't you get my child something to eat bittch, and get that mic out of my face!!"

I hope that shit was airing live.

[Zippyjuan]

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/28/546776542/national-weather-service-adds-new-colors-so-it-can-map-harveys-rains


National Weather Service Adds New Colors So It Can Map Harvey's Rains


The colors the National Weather Service uses to show rainfall on its weather map couldn't represent the deluge in southeastern Texas, so the NWS added two more purple shades to its map. The old scale topped out at more than 15 inches; the new limit tops 30 inches.

The move came as forecasters warn of continued flood dangers and continue to update precipitation totals from what the NWS is calling "unprecedented" rainfall from Tropical Storm Harvey, which made landfall as a Category 4 hurricane late Friday.

http://www.king5.com/img/resize/content.9news.com/photo/2017/08/28/harvey%20ranfall_1503937019273_10490122_ver1.0.PNG ?preset=video-still

In a note about the change, the weather agency said on Monday, "Some perspective on the amount of rainfall that Tropical Storm Harvey has put down across Southeastern Texas and Southwestern Louisiana. We've had to update the color charts on our precipitation graphics in order to effectively map it."

While the old scale used 13 colors from light green to dark purple to depict precipitation from 0.1 inch to greater than 15 inches, the new one resets that dark purple color to denote 15-20 inches of rain — and tacks on two more lighter shades of purple to denote 20-30 inches and "greater than 30 inches."

Those new levels are not hypothetical, as many residents along the middle Texas coast and inland areas can attest. And heavy rainfall is forecast to continue this week.

Nearly 40 inches of rain have fallen near Dayton, Texas; at least 15 other areas also recorded rainfall near or above 30 inches, according to the federal Weather Prediction Center's tally that it released around midday Monday.

Over the past 72 hours, more than a dozen locations in five counties have all recorded rain estimates above 30 inches, the NWS office in Houston reports.

In Houston, rainfall set a new daily record Sunday, with 16.07 inches reported at the city's main airport. On Saturday and Sunday, the NWS said, more than 2 feet of rain (24.44 inches) fell.


Here in San Diego we get about 12 inches- a YEAR.

[Zippyjuan]

I'm stuck at Houston Airport.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/28/18/43A6FF1C00000578-4830676-image-a-47_1503941001771.jpg

https://forums.unrealengine.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27895&d=1425367123

[Origanalist]

902536491401928705

[oyarde]

It's okay, the Cajun navy is here..they can rescue him.

No help for Danke , when they tell him to get in the pirogue he will not understand .

[phill4paul]

While some sNewz organs are autistically screeching about how inappropriate it was for Malania to wear stiletto heels to the presser, NPR put out this great story. Uplifting in these times...


Stores Full Of Furniture, 'Mattress Mack' Opens His Doors To Flood Victims

Houstonian Jim McIngvale, known as "Mattress Mack," has turned his two furniture stores into temporary shelters for Tropical Storm Harvey evacuees.

As the city started to flood, he posted a video online with a simple message: Come on over. He gave out his personal phone number. And hundreds of people streamed in.

"We sell home theater furniture that you watch TV in, they're sleeping on that. They're sleeping on recliners, sleeping on sofas and love seats. We have sleeper sofas, they pulled them out and slept on that," McIngvale tells NPR's Morning Edition. "They're sleeping on hundreds of mattresses throughout the store. They're sleeping on the couches — wherever they can find a place that's comfortable, and God bless 'em."

When some of the storm's victims couldn't make it across flooded streets, McIngvale dispatched his large delivery trucks and drivers to collect people and bring them to safety.

"We put out a Facebook feed that we were going to rescue people, because there was so much need," he says. "The city and the local authorities did a great job; they just couldn't get to all the 911 calls."

McIngvale says he is at capacity — he told NPR's All Things Considered on Monday that 400 people were living at both of his stores. He has done this before — during floods last year and when Hurricane Katrina hit 12 years ago. He built his stores on elevated concrete to make them floodproof.

McIngvale also has food for the evacuees — and he invited them to bring their pets, too.

"Think a slumber party on steroids," he says.

A slumber party — or maybe just a safe, dry place to wait out a record-setting storm.

http://www.npr.org/2017/08/29/546953258/houston-s-matress-mack-opens-his-doors-to-house-flood-victims?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170829

[Carlybee]

While some sNewz organs are autistically screeching about how inappropriate it was for Malania to wear stiletto heels to the presser, NPR put out this great story. Uplifting in these times...



http://www.npr.org/2017/08/29/546953258/houston-s-matress-mack-opens-his-doors-to-house-flood-victims?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170829

He has huge beautiful stores...definately the best shelter.

[pcosmar]

He has huge beautiful stores...definately the best shelter.

And a Good Neighbor is good business.

Seen it before,, and I remember.

[Carlybee]

Port Arthur got slammed...huge refinery there too.

[Wooden Indian]

Without reading the entire thread to see if this important bit has been covered...



























George Bush doesn't care about black people.

[angelatc]

I didn't know Injuns can't swim. It has already started.

Edit: those might have been Mexicans, I don't know they all look-alike.

Pretty sure Mexicans can swim. Anderson Cooper said so.
(http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/anderson.cooper.360/blog/2007/05/mexicans-swim-for-us-border.html)

[angelatc]

While some sNewz organs are autistically screeching about how inappropriate it was for Malania to wear stiletto heels to the presser, NPR put out this great story. Uplifting in these times...

McIngvale dispatched his large delivery trucks and drivers to collect people and bring them to safety.

http://www.npr.org/2017/08/29/546953258/houston-s-matress-mack-opens-his-doors-to-house-flood-victims?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170829

Without seatbelts???

[angelatc]

lol, she didn't ask if she wanted to be interviewed first?

Yeah, she could have walked away at any minute. DIdn't have power for 5 days but Harvey only hit 4 days ago.

[PRB]

I was actually able to get out for a while yesterday but hightailed it back quickly. Still raining but hope this thing is outta here by tonight.

5845

yeah but it's happened before and what's a few feet going to do? it'll go away after a few weeks, and most people will still survive! why should I pay carbon taxes if not everybody is going to die?

[PRB]

I'm stuck at Houston Airport.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/28/18/43A6FF1C00000578-4830676-image-a-47_1503941001771.jpg

fake

[otherone]

Just sold our river property in PA. Good luck to all y'all folks in flood zones trying to pay your exorbitant flood insurance. Especially when FEMA factors in this mess.

[Madison320]

Just sold our river property in PA. Good luck to all y'all folks in flood zones trying to pay your exorbitant flood insurance. Especially when FEMA factors in this mess.

Flood insurance probably needs to be even higher. From what I understand insurance companies get subsidized in high risk flood areas to keep rates low by law. If rates were higher more people would do like you and move away from flood prone areas.

[otherone]

Flood insurance probably needs to be even higher. From what I understand insurance companies get subsidized in high risk flood areas to keep rates low by law. If rates were higher more people would do like you and move away from flood prone areas.

The rates have sky-rocketed since Katrina and Sandy. FEMA sets the prices, and FEMA creates the flood zone maps. The maps have been made more expansive, and home owners who have never had to carry flood insurance are now forced to.

[PRB]

https://i2.wp.com/elgl.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Your-city-would-look-like-Houston-without-zoning.jpg

[Anti Federalist]

https://i2.wp.com/elgl.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Your-city-would-look-like-Houston-without-zoning.jpg

https://media.makeameme.org/created/nyc-the.jpg

[Danke]

fakeYep, it has gotten much worse with additional rain, pray for me. Can't even see the tails anymore.https://weneedfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Water-Picture-15.jpg

[Anti Federalist]

Yep, it has gotten much worse with additional rain, pray for me. Can't even see the tails anymore.https://weneedfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Water-Picture-15.jpg

I'm a skilled mariner.

I'll rescue you.

[Danke]

I'm a skilled mariner.

I'll rescue you.


You'll love the women down here, and they float too!

[Anti Federalist]

You'll love the women down here, and they float too!

http://affatshionista.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/fat-girl-floating1.jpg

[Zippyjuan]

Flood insurance probably needs to be even higher. From what I understand insurance companies get subsidized in high risk flood areas to keep rates low by law. If rates were higher more people would do like you and move away from flood prone areas.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2017/08/29/hurricane-harvey-houston-flood-insurance-damages-claims/611910001/


About 80% of Hurricane Harvey victims do not have flood insurance, face big bills


NEW YORK - Homeowners suffering flood damage from Harvey are more likely to be on the hook for losses than victims of prior storms — a potentially crushing blow to personal finances and neighborhoods along the Gulf Coast.

Insurance experts say only a small fraction of homeowners in Harvey’s path of destruction have flood insurance. That means families with flooded basements, soaked furniture and water-damaged walls will have to dig deep into their pockets or take on more debt to fix up their homes. Some may be forced to sell, if they can, and leave their communities.

All these people taken out in boats, they have a second problem: They have no insurance,” said Robert Hunter, director of insurance at the Consumer Federation of America.

Harvey made landfall in Texas late Friday as a Category 4 hurricane and has lingered off the coast, dropping heavy rain as a tropical storm. Hunter expects flood damage alone from the storm to cost at least $35 billion, about what Katrina cost. But in that 2005 hurricane about half of flooded homes were covered by flood insurance.

With Harvey, only two of 10 homeowners have coverage, Hunter estimates.

Homeowners insurance typically covers just damage from winds, not floods. For that, you need separate coverage from the federally run National Flood Insurance Program. The insurance must be bought by homeowners with federally-backed mortgages living in the most vulnerable areas, called Special Flood Hazard Zones.

People in those areas and near them have complained for years that the premiums are too high, though they would be much higher still if not subsidized by the federal government.

[Zippyjuan]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2017/08/30/harvey-has-unloaded-24-5-trillion-gallons-of-water-on-texas-and-louisiana/?utm_term=.914ca64459d4


Harvey has unloaded 24.5 trillion gallons of water on Texas and Louisiana

The latest storm totals are in, and by our estimates, about 24.5 trillion gallons of water has fallen on Southeast Texas and southern Louisiana because of Harvey.

Breaking it down, Texas has totaled 19 trillion gallons, and Louisiana has already seen 5.5 trillion gallons. More is on the way for Louisiana, but the rain is expected to taper off Thursday.

So much rain has fallen in such a short amount of time, it will take weeks for it to fully drain. In low-lying areas and basements, it will take volunteers to physically pump the water out. Disease, unfortunately, will fester in this water as the sun comes out, and Texas summer heat returns.

https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/files/2017/08/2300-harvey-cube0830.jpg

It’s probably impossible to truly comprehend how much water has fallen in Texas and Louisiana. But there are comparisons we can make that help paint a picture.

First, there are 18 trillion gallons of water in the Chesapeake Bay. So that’s not even a good comparison. (Ava Marie)

If you piled up 20 trillion gallons of water over the District of Columbia (approximately 68 square miles), the height of the water would be 1,410 feet — or almost the height of the Empire State Building. (Ryan Maue)

The amount of rain that fell in Texas and Louisiana would have ended the historic California drought, twice over. (Paul Deanno)

Over Harris County alone — which is home to Houston — 1 trillion gallons of water fell in the four days from Saturday through Tuesday. That’s as much water as flows over Niagara Falls in 15 days. (Jeff Lindner)

It’s enough to cover the entire state of Arizona in more than a foot of water.

Near Mont Belvieu, Tex., 51.88 inches of rain fell. That’s the highest rainfall total in any storm in the history of the United States.

It’s approximately how much rain falls in Houston in an entire (average) year.

It has taken Death Valley 23 years to accumulate that much rain. (Ian Livingston)

It would take Los Angeles four years to hit 52 inches. (New York Times)

In the arid climate of Southern California, it would take more than a decade for 52 inches of rain to accumulate

[Swordsmyth]

"No Way To Prevent Imminent Explosion" At Flooded Texas Chemical Planthttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-30/arkema-ceo-no-way-prevent-imminent-explosion-flooded-texas-chemical-plant

[Carlybee]

yeah but it's happened before and what's a few feet going to do? it'll go away after a few weeks, and most people will still survive! why should I pay carbon taxes if not everybody is going to die?

Who's supporting carbon tax here?

[Swordsmyth]

Who's supporting carbon tax here?
PRB is, It's post was intended to mock libertarians.

[oyarde]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2017/08/29/hurricane-harvey-houston-flood-insurance-damages-claims/611910001/

So basically a bunch of properties are going to be back to the banks .

[oyarde]

yeah but it's happened before and what's a few feet going to do? it'll go away after a few weeks, and most people will still survive! why should I pay carbon taxes if not everybody is going to die?

I am not paying any carbon taxes .

[goldenequity]

KolHaolam: TEXAS: Damage estimate for Harvey is $160B, costliest natural disaster in US history.
That’s equal to total of Katrina and Sandy together.

[oyarde]

Yep, it has gotten much worse with additional rain, pray for me. Can't even see the tails anymore.https://weneedfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Water-Picture-15.jpg

I just bought 3/4 of a dozen of blueberry and cream cheese muffins . Sorry , guess I have to eat them all myself .

[goldenequity]

Levee Breach Hamshire-Fannett area, Jefferson County Judge Jeff Branick said Wednesday at a news conference.

Chemicals at plant near Houston degrading, explosion inevitable – CEO
https://www.rt.com/usa/401489-arkema-plant-explosion-risk/
mandatory evacuations begin

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIfCCg3VAAEVzky.jpg:small

[PRB]

I am not paying any carbon taxes .


good, you shouldn't, because nobody is dying here.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2017/08/29/harvey-marks-the-most-extreme-rain-event-in-u-s-history/?utm_term=.8214b6e1ab62

[PRB]

KolHaolam: TEXAS: Damage estimate for Harvey is $160B, costliest natural disaster in US history.
That’s equal to total of Katrina and Sandy together.

so what? if government didn't exist everyrhing would be perfect and global warming is not happening. hurricanes always happen, it's all normal!!!!

[Danke]

Great news! Operations resuming at Houston Intercontinental Airport. Expect some delays. Pack wisely.

[oyarde]

Great news! Operations resuming at Houston Intercontinental Airport. Expect some delays. Pack wisely.

Pack wisely , is that code that I can now bring my spear and tomahawk on board ?

[goldenequity]

903222264858124289

[Danke]

Pack wisely , is that code that I can now bring my spear and tomahawk on board ?

Pack whatever you would like, tribal IDs are not accepted at the airlines.

[oyarde]

Pack whatever you would like, tribal IDs are not accepted at the airlines.

A Great Patriot like me should not need ID or have to wait in line . I should just be waved through and handed a complimentary beer.

[euphemia]

Harvey has made his way north. I am at work sheltering in place.

[oyarde]

good, you shouldn't, because nobody is dying here.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2017/08/29/harvey-marks-the-most-extreme-rain-event-in-u-s-history/?utm_term=.8214b6e1ab62 I have not killed anyone all month and I never hurt anyone with carbon .

[goldenequity]

: Fort Bend County Sheriff Troy Nehls



FOX Interview (30 min ago..)
Sheriff of Fort Bend County, TX to looters: "You could leave this County in a bag."
Sheriff Troy E. Nehls


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPTGICg259I


9/1/2017 - Fort Bend sheriff Husband and wife found dead in flood - Fox News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NsTM9ItxLc



Pet rescue effort in Canyon Gate subdivision led by Fort Bend County Sheriff Troy Nehls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcZYgbGHkzw


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3 weeks ago...
Fort Bend County deputy plays pickup game with teenagers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYbULIpTsVM



1 month ago...
Girl Serenades Fort Bend County Sheriff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MqzdsKB1uQ

[Swordsmyth]

Red Cross Admits It Doesn't Know How Hurricane Harvey Donation Money Is Spent
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-02/red-cross-admits-it-doesnt-know-how-hurricane-harvey-donation-money-spent

[Swordsmyth]

Biggest health threats from Hurricane Harvey flooding


In the wake of Hurricane Harvey (https://www.cbsnews.com/feature/hurricane-harvey/), as reports of destruction from torrential rains and flooding continue to come in, a number of health hazards put Texas residents at risk.
The deadly storm (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/houston-flood-hurricane-harvey-30-aug-live-updates/), which has now been downgraded, forced thousands of people to their rooftops or higher ground, overwhelming emergency workers who could not keep up with calls for help (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/houston-flooding-khou-reporter-brandi-smith-helps-rescue-truck-driver/).
Secretary of Health and Human Services Tom Price declared a public health emergency in response to Harvey, and has sent more than 500 personnel and tons of medical supplies to the region.
As the rains continue and floodwater keeps rising, there are several health risks to keep in mind.


Infectious diseases

Floodwater may contain a number of pathogens, and people crowded into shelters (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/houston-flooding-convention-center-overcrowded-sleeping-on-floor/) are especially vulnerable to outbreaks of common illnesses.
"When we have lots of people congregated into small spaces like this, you worry about viral illness outbreaks that would cause gastrointestinal problems," Persse said. "You know we've always heard about cruise ships where everybody got sick — it's the same virus that we worry about here ... the norovirus."
Exposure to floodwater itself also carries risks.
"Floodwater harbors bacteria, different viruses, and fungi, all of which can make people sick," Dr. Robert Glatter, an emergency physician at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City, told CBS News.
One of the biggest concerns with floodwater is the possibility of cholera (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/yemen-united-nations-cholera-famine-war-houthi-rebels-saudi-arabia/), a highly contagious bacterial disease causing severe diarrhea.
Cholera can spread when water is contaminated with infected feces and then others ingest it, either by drinking the water or consuming food that has come in contact with the water.
While cholera is far more common in third-word countries, Glatter says the possibility of it occurring in Texas "wouldn't be impossible."
"These types of bacteria can live in mixtures of murky water," he said. "It's possible to have this type of infection, especially if the water supply becomes contaminated."
Other infectious diseases that can be passed through floodwater include hepatitis A, typhoid fever, and Leptospirosis, a bacterial infection that can cause muscle aches, vomiting, abdominal pain, and diarrhea.


If the water supply does become compromised, experts recommend only using bottled water for drinking, brushing your teeth, or bathing or boiling water before use. Keep informed about any warnings from local officials about the water supply.
People should also throw away any food that has come in contact with floodwater, even those that are wrapped or packaged in plastic. "There could be microbreaks in the plastic," Glatter said. "There's no way to know if it's been compromised."
Canned food is safe to eat, he said.
Open wounds or rashes exposed to floodwater can become infected and skin infections and conjunctivitis are also common after heavy flooding.
Avoid direct contact with floodwater whenever possible by wearing gloves and waterproof clothing and never walk barefoot through a flood.
"Often if your feet get waterlogged that's a set-up for getting infections, including fungal infections between the toes," Glatter said. "Wear high boots and keep your feet as dry as possible."
Health risks while cleaning up after flooding

If your house becomes flooded during the storm, Glatter says, carpeting and fabric-based furniture should not be salvaged.
"Bacteria can leach onto fabrics and lead to airborne infections," he said. "I would not recommend holding onto anything with fabric that absorbs floodwater."
Hard surfaces that have come in contact with floodwater, including walls, floors, stoves, and countertops should be thoroughly disinfected. Wearing rubber boots and gloves while cleaning homes is important to reduce risk of infection.
Mold is also common after heavy flooding and can exacerbate asthma, allergies, or other respiratory diseases like COPD. Mold can appear in as little as 24 to 48 hours after floodwater recedes.
"Don't touch it. Wear rubber gloves, wear a mask," Glatter said. "Try not to remain in any dwelling where there's mold."
Mosquito-borne diseases

After the rains subside, pools of standing water offer breeding grounds for mosquitoes, which can carry infectious diseases like West Nile and Zika virus (https://www.cbsnews.com/zika/).
Glatter recommends draining these pools when you see them and alerting authorities to larger areas of standing water.

More at: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/houston-flooding-biggest-health-threats-from-hurricane-harvey-flooding/

[Carlybee]

Parts of Lake Jackson were being evacuated at some point. That's where Ron Paul lives.

[Swordsmyth]

Parts of Lake Jackson were being evacuated at some point. That's where Ron Paul lives.

Do we know if he is OK?

[specsaregood]

Do we know if he is OK?

He's been posting youtube videos about the hurricane, so I would assume he isn't doing it from a refugee center.

[Swordsmyth]

He's been posting youtube videos about the hurricane, so I would assume he isn't doing it from a refugee center.

Good, I hope he didn't suffer too much property damage either.

[Swordsmyth]

Mold a serious health risk in wake of Harvey's flooding
The wet conditions and warm, damp climate in Texas create the perfect conditions for mold to thrive — and it can begin to appear very quickly after a hurricane.
"Mold can grow relatively fast, within days," Dr. Sumita Khatri, co-director of the Asthma Center at Cleveland Clinic, told CBS News. "It's one of those things you might not think about but if you're not proactive it could catch up with you later."
The major health concerns involving mold include irritation or damage to the respiratory tract.
"If somebody has chronic sinus issues, it will get worse. And for people who were previously healthy, who did not have respiratory issues before, they can develop them," Khatri said. The throat and lungs can also be affected with symptoms similar to a respiratory infection.
Chronic conditions like asthma (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-amish-kids-are-protected-from-asthma/) and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) can be exacerbated by breathing in mold spores. If the mold problem is not addressed, it can continue to wreak havoc on the respiratory system indefinitely.
"There have been many studies that show that if you have a chronic respiratory problem, if you're being exposed to mold on an ongoing basis, no matter what medications you're on, unless you're removed from that, it can cause progression of the condition where even the medications won't help you that much," Khatri said.
Mold growth after hurricanes is extremely common and widespread. Studies showed extensive mold growth in New Orleans homes affected by Hurricane Katrina (https://www.cbsnews.com/remembering-hurricane-katrina/) — even in those that had only flooded partway.

More at: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/houston-harvey-flooding-mold-serious-health-risk-in-texas/?ftag=YHF4eb9d17&yptr=yahoo

[PRB]

Biggest health threats from Hurricane Harvey flooding


In the wake of Hurricane Harvey (https://www.cbsnews.com/feature/hurricane-harvey/), as reports of destruction from torrential rains and flooding continue to come in, a number of health hazards put Texas residents at risk.
The deadly storm (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/houston-flood-hurricane-harvey-30-aug-live-updates/), which has now been downgraded, forced thousands of people to their rooftops or higher ground, overwhelming emergency workers who could not keep up with calls for help (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/houston-flooding-khou-reporter-brandi-smith-helps-rescue-truck-driver/).
Secretary of Health and Human Services Tom Price declared a public health emergency in response to Harvey, and has sent more than 500 personnel and tons of medical supplies to the region.
As the rains continue and floodwater keeps rising, there are several health risks to keep in mind.


Infectious diseases

Floodwater may contain a number of pathogens, and people crowded into shelters (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/houston-flooding-convention-center-overcrowded-sleeping-on-floor/) are especially vulnerable to outbreaks of common illnesses.
"When we have lots of people congregated into small spaces like this, you worry about viral illness outbreaks that would cause gastrointestinal problems," Persse said. "You know we've always heard about cruise ships where everybody got sick — it's the same virus that we worry about here ... the norovirus."
Exposure to floodwater itself also carries risks.
"Floodwater harbors bacteria, different viruses, and fungi, all of which can make people sick," Dr. Robert Glatter, an emergency physician at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City, told CBS News.
One of the biggest concerns with floodwater is the possibility of cholera (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/yemen-united-nations-cholera-famine-war-houthi-rebels-saudi-arabia/), a highly contagious bacterial disease causing severe diarrhea.
Cholera can spread when water is contaminated with infected feces and then others ingest it, either by drinking the water or consuming food that has come in contact with the water.
While cholera is far more common in third-word countries, Glatter says the possibility of it occurring in Texas "wouldn't be impossible."
"These types of bacteria can live in mixtures of murky water," he said. "It's possible to have this type of infection, especially if the water supply becomes contaminated."
Other infectious diseases that can be passed through floodwater include hepatitis A, typhoid fever, and Leptospirosis, a bacterial infection that can cause muscle aches, vomiting, abdominal pain, and diarrhea.


If the water supply does become compromised, experts recommend only using bottled water for drinking, brushing your teeth, or bathing or boiling water before use. Keep informed about any warnings from local officials about the water supply.
People should also throw away any food that has come in contact with floodwater, even those that are wrapped or packaged in plastic. "There could be microbreaks in the plastic," Glatter said. "There's no way to know if it's been compromised."
Canned food is safe to eat, he said.
Open wounds or rashes exposed to floodwater can become infected and skin infections and conjunctivitis are also common after heavy flooding.
Avoid direct contact with floodwater whenever possible by wearing gloves and waterproof clothing and never walk barefoot through a flood.
"Often if your feet get waterlogged that's a set-up for getting infections, including fungal infections between the toes," Glatter said. "Wear high boots and keep your feet as dry as possible."
Health risks while cleaning up after flooding

If your house becomes flooded during the storm, Glatter says, carpeting and fabric-based furniture should not be salvaged.
"Bacteria can leach onto fabrics and lead to airborne infections," he said. "I would not recommend holding onto anything with fabric that absorbs floodwater."
Hard surfaces that have come in contact with floodwater, including walls, floors, stoves, and countertops should be thoroughly disinfected. Wearing rubber boots and gloves while cleaning homes is important to reduce risk of infection.
Mold is also common after heavy flooding and can exacerbate asthma, allergies, or other respiratory diseases like COPD. Mold can appear in as little as 24 to 48 hours after floodwater recedes.
"Don't touch it. Wear rubber gloves, wear a mask," Glatter said. "Try not to remain in any dwelling where there's mold."
Mosquito-borne diseases

After the rains subside, pools of standing water offer breeding grounds for mosquitoes, which can carry infectious diseases like West Nile and Zika virus (https://www.cbsnews.com/zika/).
Glatter recommends draining these pools when you see them and alerting authorities to larger areas of standing water.

More at: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/houston-flooding-biggest-health-threats-from-hurricane-harvey-flooding/

All natural, all happened before, stop freaking out, humans will not go extinct. Who cares if thousands go sick or hundreds die? The rest of us will be fine so we're justified to not care.

[Marenco]

Do we know if he is OK?

He's about to part the flood to lead his people to freedom and liberty as we speak :D

[nikcers]

Do we know if he is OK?
Seriously tired of these hurricanes they need to need to stop censoring the Ron Paul Liberty Report.