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Anti Federalist
08-22-2017, 01:07 PM
White people, here are 10 requests from a Black Lives Matter leader

https://www.leoweekly.com/2017/08/white-people/

Aug 16 2017

By Chanelle Helm cofounder and core organizer of Black Lives Matter Louisville

1. White people, if you don’t have any descendants, will your property to a black or brown family. Preferably one that lives in generational poverty.

2. White people, if you’re inheriting property you intend to sell upon acceptance, give it to a black or brown family. You’re bound to make that money in some other white privileged way.

3. If you are a developer or realty owner of multi-family housing, build a sustainable complex in a black or brown blighted neighborhood and let black and brown people live in it for free.

4. White people, if you can afford to downsize, give up the home you own to a black or brown family. Preferably a family from generational poverty.

5. White people, if any of the people you intend to leave your property to are racists assholes, change the will, and will your property to a black or brown family. Preferably a family from generational poverty.

6. White people, re-budget your monthly so you can donate to black funds for land purchasing.

7. White people, especially white women (because this is yaw specialty — Nosey Jenny and Meddling Kathy), get a racist fired. Yaw know what the fuck they be saying. You are complicit when you ignore them. Get your boss fired cause they racist too.

8. Backing up No. 7, this should be easy but all those sheetless Klan, Nazi’s and Other lil’ dick-white men will all be returning to work. Get they ass fired. Call the police even: they look suspicious.

9. OK, backing up No. 8, if any white person at your work, or as you enter in spaces and you overhear a white person praising the actions from yesterday, first, get a pic. Get their name and more info. Hell, find out where they work — Get Them Fired. But certainly address them, and, if you need to, you got hands: use them.

10. Commit to two things: Fighting white supremacy where and how you can (this doesn’t mean taking up knitting, unless you’re making scarves for black and brown kids in need), and funding black and brown people and their work.

Swordsmyth
08-22-2017, 01:11 PM
Just what Blacks need, someone claiming to represent all of them who makes them look like entitled leaches.

"Give us all your stuff"

acptulsa
08-22-2017, 01:29 PM
That's right. Will your property to someone who can't afford the property tax, so the government can seize it.

opal
08-22-2017, 01:29 PM
For the writer -

Step 1

Learn to use English properly or continue to be viewed as an uneducated slug.

Step 2

Back up step 1 - proof read the garbage you type and fix it

Step 3

Accept the concept that if you did not earn it, it is not yours. Basing what you "get" on the color of your skin is racist

donnay
08-22-2017, 01:41 PM
Looks like more media propaganda to create a reality civil war show.

Madison320
08-22-2017, 01:52 PM
Looks like more media propaganda to create a reality civil war show.

No, it's real, only they aren't requests:

Reparations for the systemic denial of access to high quality educational opportunities in the form of full and free access for all Black people (including undocumented and currently and formerly incarcerated people) to lifetime education including: free access and open admissions to public community colleges and universities, technical education (technology, trade and agricultural), educational support programs, retroactive forgiveness of student loans, and support for lifetime learning programs.
Reparations for the continued divestment from, discrimination toward and exploitation of our communities in the form of a guaranteed minimum livable income for all Black people, with clearly articulated corporate regulations.
Reparations for the wealth extracted from our communities through environmental racism, slavery, food apartheid, housing discrimination and racialized capitalism in the form of corporate and government reparations focused on healing ongoing physical and mental trauma, and ensuring our access and control of food sources, housing and land.

https://policy.m4bl.org/reparations/

We should develop and pass a $2 to $4 trillion policy that would both create government jobs for Black workers, and subsidize businesses to hire Black workers. The main targets of this effort would be the Congress, President, and Chairman of the Federal Reserve. This would have to be both a legislative campaign to move members of Congress, and direct public pressure campaign to get the President and Federal Chairman to act.
Pass legislation that moves formerly incarcerated people into a protected class and makes it illegal for public or private employers to discriminate against workers with a criminal background.

A progressive restructuring of tax codes at the local, state, and federal levels to ensure a radical and sustainable redistribution of wealth.
Federal and state job programs that specifically target the most economically marginalized Black people, and compensation for those involved in the care economy. Job programs must provide a living wage and encourage support for local workers centers, unions, and Black-owned businesses which are accountable to the community.

https://policy.m4bl.org/economic-justice/

We put forward a new approach to public budgets and revenues in order to ensure that resources are raised equitably and follow the needs and fulfil the full human rights of Black communities.
To achieve this, we need to integrate human rights into participatory budgeting models.
This requires flipping the way budgets are developed by starting with assessing people’s fundamental needs – prioritizing the needs of communities suffering from injustice – and then raising revenue in an equitable way to fund needs-based budgets. This process must be fully participatory, transparent and accountable.

https://policy.m4bl.org/community-control/

Anti Federalist
08-22-2017, 02:33 PM
Yes, it's very real.

And gaining more and more "mainstream" acceptance.

Madison320
08-22-2017, 02:36 PM
Yes, it's very real.

And gaining more and more "mainstream" acceptance.

It's communism with a racial twist.

Anti Federalist
08-22-2017, 02:41 PM
It's communism with a racial twist.

Pretty much.

Wonder how bloody this will get?

Communism of course generally is, but especially so when directed at different ethnicities within a society that falls to communism.

I'm thinking "Khmer Rouge" regime here...

Raginfridus
08-22-2017, 02:49 PM
It's communism with a racial twist.Yes, class warfare didn't quite catch fire in the States, so communists are literally banking on race warfare. Can we even call them Marxists, anymore?

Warrior_of_Freedom
08-22-2017, 04:19 PM
this dumb shit will just create more "racists" but i'm not falling for it. I know a bunch of retards don't represent black people as a whole.

TheTexan
08-22-2017, 04:23 PM
If these black people want to take my money, they'll have to do it the way everyone else does it, by writing their congressmen

phill4paul
08-22-2017, 04:34 PM
Amazon Developing Slavery Reparations Series ‘Black America’

Amazon is developing a drama series from Will Packer and Aaron McGruder that will deal with a post-slavery reparations America, Variety has confirmed.

The alt-history series will explore a world in which newly freed African Americans have secured the Southern states of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama as reparations for slavery. The new nation, known as New Colonia, has a tumultuous relationship with the United States government.

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/amazon-slavery-reparations-series-black-america-will-packer-aaron-mcgruder-1202512379/


Also, if you are having a generational problem with poverty then you are probably doing it wrong and have no one but yourself, and your parent(s), and their parent(s) to blame. Unabashed demanding of charity used to be considered a character flaw.

RJB
08-22-2017, 04:36 PM
Why can't someone so oppressed move to a country without white privilege? If this country is so bad, why are people of color trying to get in this country by any means necessary? I am genuinely curious.

bunklocoempire
08-22-2017, 04:45 PM
Can I assume that Chanelle first tried to get some kind of voluntary mutual aid thing going with her family & friends, but apparently it didn't work out?

No? Too below you to try that Chanelle?

A raging pity party.

Dark_Horse_Rider
08-22-2017, 04:49 PM
Indeed a few outspoken idiots don't speak for a "people"

DGambler
08-22-2017, 05:04 PM
Everyone that I have met that is successful, regardless of race, has one common characteristic... They work their ass off for what they have... As one gets lazier, the less well off they are.

Pretty simple, if you want it, go get it.

Oh, and live within your means and actually follow a damn budget.

Natural Citizen
08-22-2017, 05:19 PM
...you got hands: use them.


I long for the day.

asurfaholic
08-22-2017, 05:19 PM
Fking leeches.

End the welfare state that drives this increasingly dangerous mindset. Watch the cockroaches scatter.

Let Darwin pick up the pieces

Natural Citizen
08-22-2017, 05:33 PM
Looks like more media propaganda to create a reality civil war show.

That may very well be true, donnay, but these days I, for one, am coming around to the idea more and more every day. We could use one.

And regardless of who is pulling the strings, I'm seeing more and more black people grabbing a microphone and organizing against people for the sole reason that they are white. And they're getting brave about it. As was said previously by this BLM leader, ''you got hands: use them."

Stuff like that makes me detest black people. Stuff like that makes me want them to show me how badass they think they are. Am I wrong to do so in such a general way? Perhaps. But what we are seeing via the op is growing. And thy're very general in their own spew.

I say that if they want a physical interaction, then bring it. I guarantee they aren't ready for such interaction should they choose to select it. Most black city vermin aren't.

But something tells me they won't go too far out of the perimeter of the city to pull this stuff. They aren't really that brave. Or prepared.

donnay
08-22-2017, 05:43 PM
The sad thing is these people are nothing more than cannon fodder for the globalist agenda. Most won't wake up until it is too late, I am afraid. :(

United we stand - Divided we fall.

Natural Citizen
08-22-2017, 05:57 PM
The sad thing is these people are nothing more than cannon fodder for the globalist agenda.

Agreed.

99.99999999% of the time they're popping off with these public instructions on how and when to become physically aggressive against the white race, they're surrounded by a city-wide police perimeter. They're just too stupid to realize it.

My advice is stay out of the cities. They're surrounding themselves by men from the government with armor and guns while publicly inciting physical aggression toward people just because they are white. Let them suffer the consequences of their own doing. I, for one, won't lose a second of sleep about it. If they get thinned out, then they get thinned out. Fukem. Chalk it up as a learning experience.

We can figure out the rest later.

Anti Federalist
08-22-2017, 06:38 PM
United we stand - Divided we fall.

United in what?

Krugminator2
08-22-2017, 06:39 PM
I try to view politics as entertainment, but this kind of stuff is unbearable. Bernie Sanders won 23 states. This is the new normal.

It doesn't help when pretty much every black leader is a shitbag. Malcolm X -"You show me a capitalist, I’ll show you a bloodsucker. (https://www.socialist.net/malcolm-x-you-show-me-a-capitalist-i-ll-show-you-a-bloodsucker.htm)"

"YOU CAN’T HAVE CAPITALISM WITHOUT RACISM"

Even Martin Luther King was a stupid fuck. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-dreier/martin-luther-king-was-a-democratic-socialist_b_9008990.html

These people are in such a different universe. What is all this garbage about generational poverty? To the extent that it exists for blacks it the result of handout like this woman is proposing.

Anti Federalist
08-22-2017, 06:39 PM
this dumb shit will just create more "racists" but i'm not falling for it. I know a bunch of retards don't represent black people as a whole.


Indeed a few outspoken idiots don't speak for a "people"

50,000 people in Boston this weekend disagree.

Swordsmyth
08-22-2017, 06:44 PM
The sad thing is these people are nothing more than cannon fodder for the globalist agenda. Most won't wake up until it is too late, I am afraid. :(

United we stand - Divided we fall.


United in what?

The question is: United to what?

The answer is: A gangrenous limb

Krugminator2
08-22-2017, 06:49 PM
Indeed a few outspoken idiots don't speak for a "people"


Only individuals speak for themselves. But this woman kind of does speak for black women. 94% voted for Hillary. And if you are voting for Hillary, you are an idiot. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/black-women--hillary-clintons-most-reliable-voting-bloc--look-beyond-defeat/2016/11/12/86d9182a-a845-11e6-ba59-a7d93165c6d4_story.html?utm_term=.ef235b51c99a

donnay
08-22-2017, 07:15 PM
United in what?


United under God.

Swordsmyth
08-22-2017, 07:19 PM
United under God.
But we aren't, they don't believe in him.

donnay
08-22-2017, 07:24 PM
But we aren't, they don't believe in him.

That's the whole point, this is why this country is falling apart.

Swordsmyth
08-22-2017, 07:29 PM
That's the whole point, this is why this country is falling apart.

Matthew
Chapter 188 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-8/)Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.

9 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-9/)And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

Cut off the Gangrene.

CALExit.

Anti Federalist
08-22-2017, 07:32 PM
Matthew
Chapter 188 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-8/)Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.

9 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-9/)And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

Cut off the Gangrene.

CALExit.

Owe you a rep.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
08-22-2017, 07:37 PM
Everyone that I have met that is successful, regardless of race, has one common characteristic... They work their ass off for what they have... As one gets lazier, the less well off they are.

Pretty simple, if you want it, go get it.

Oh, and live within your means and actually follow a damn budget.

Progressives like to downplay this. Obama, for example, said, "You didn't build that."

My personal observation is that people often manage their money better when they have to work for it. Easy money gets easily blown. That old saying is true: Easy come--easy go. There are of course, some exceptions to that.





United under God.

But we aren't, they don't believe in him.





Government is the liberal's god.

acptulsa
08-22-2017, 07:37 PM
Indeed a few outspoken idiots don't speak for a "people"

+rep


Stuff like that makes me detest black people.

Like jmdrake, for instance?

It's a trap, and you're falling into it. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Individuals who are worthy of Gault's Gulch will be an asset to it--maybe the very asset it needs to survive everything the leeches left behind throw at it out of spite.

Don't leave that key, vital individual out because of what other people who look vaguely like him or her do.


Only individuals speak for themselves. But this woman kind of does speak for black women. 94% voted for Hillary. And if you are voting for Hillary, you are an idiot. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/black-women--hillary-clintons-most-reliable-voting-bloc--look-beyond-defeat/2016/11/12/86d9182a-a845-11e6-ba59-a7d93165c6d4_story.html?utm_term=.ef235b51c99a

If the 6% can resist the pressure from the other 94% to conform, then what great thing can that 6% not do?

Natural Citizen
08-22-2017, 07:37 PM
Matthew
Chapter 18

8 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-8/)Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.

9 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-9/)And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

Cut off the Gangrene.

CALExit.

Yeah, but basically that means is if you're offended when you see black Individuals or black groups of Individuals publicly organizing to instruct each other how and when to become physically aggressive toward white Individuals or white groups of Individuals that you should pluck your eye out for being offended by seeing them do it. Or cut off your ear if you heard them giving said intructions and were offended by it.

Doesn't seem like God is on our side sometimes. My faith is challenged more and more as each day passes, to be perfectly honest.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
08-22-2017, 07:40 PM
Maybe the American Indian would have something to say to Channel about all this land stuff.

Natural Citizen
08-22-2017, 07:43 PM
+rep



Like jmdrake, for instance?

It's a trap, and you're falling into it. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Individuals who are worthy of Gault's Gulch will be an asset to it--maybe the very asset it needs to survive everything the leeches left behind throw at it out of spite.

Don't leave that key, vital individual out because of what other people who look vaguely like him or her do.

Yeah, I know. I know it's a trap. It's hard not to fall for it. It's getting really, really hard not to fall for it. a man can only take so much sometimes, however. And when he has has enough, he has to speak up. That's where I'm at with it.

Swordsmyth
08-22-2017, 07:44 PM
Yeah, but basically that that means is if you're offended when you see black Individuals or black groups of Individuals publicly organizing to instruct each other how and when to become physically aggressive toward white Individuals or white groupds of Individuals that you should pluck your eye out for being offended by seeing them do it. Or cut off your ear off you heard them giving said intructions and were offended by it.

Doesn't seem like God is on our side sometimes. My faith is challenged more and more as each day passes, to be perfectly honest.

No, it is referring to the body of the church, or in this case to the body politic.

The libs offend against us every day, it is long past time to cut them off and cast them away.

donnay
08-22-2017, 07:46 PM
Matthew
Chapter 188 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-8/)Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.

9 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-9/)And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

Cut off the Gangrene.

CALExit.


Luke 10:19 (KJV)
19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

Romans 16:20 (KJV)
And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.

Natural Citizen
08-22-2017, 07:55 PM
Like jmdrake, for instance?

It's a trap, and you're falling into it. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Individuals who are worthy of Gault's Gulch will be an asset to it--maybe the very asset it needs to survive everything the leeches left behind throw at it out of spite.

Don't leave that key, vital individual out because of what other people who look vaguely like him or her do.



It's kind of funny that you mention drake, though. He's actually the first person I thought of when I read the op. And the reason I did is because I remember once that I said something to him privately that I immediately regretted afterward. What I said to him wasn't meant to sound racist. i didn't intend for my words at the moment to be racist. In fact, it actually was racist, though. I had said something along the lines of jmdrajke, you're really the only black person I know who actually cares about the cause of Individual Liberty. But it was true. He's the only person I actually know. Every other black person that I know is actually against it. That certainly doesn't mean that all are against it. Just all that I know. Which is why I said it.

The point of me even telling you that is because it really is the people like in the op that say those things about becoming physically aggressive with people just because they are white that causes some people to appreciate that not all are like that. Which, again, is why I said what I said to him. But it's a lose/lose situation, though. Like I said, I shouldn't even have said that to him. Damned if you do and damned if you don't kind of deal if one happens to be white.

And, yeah, I know it's a trap. It's getting harder and harder by the day not to fall for it, though. It's really hard. I try. But I don't always succeed.

Like I said, we're damned if we do and damned if we don't if we happen to be white. But I try. I really do.

Dr.3D
08-22-2017, 07:58 PM
Guess it wouldn't play as well if the title were.... 10 "Requests" of white people from George Soros.

Natural Citizen
08-22-2017, 07:58 PM
No, it is referring to the body of the church, or in this case to the body politic.

The libs offend against us every day, it is long past time to cut them off and cast them away.

I dunno. Maybe. I don't really define 'the church' the same as 'the church' does. If that makes sense.

Swordsmyth
08-22-2017, 08:03 PM
It's kind of funny that you mention drake, though. He's actually the first person I thought of when I read the op. And the reason I did is because I remember once that I said something to him privately that I immediately regretted afterward. What I said to him wasn't meant to sound racist. i didn't intend for my words at the moment to be racist. In fact, it actually was racist, though. I had said something along the lines of jmdrajke, you're really the only black person I know who actually cares about the cause of Individual Liberty. But it was true. He's the only one I know. Ever yother black person that I know is actually against it. That certainly doesn't mean that all are against it. Just all that I know. Which is why I said it.

The point of me even telling you that is because it really is the people like in the op that say those things about becoming physically aggressive with people just because they are white that causes some people to appreciate that not all are like that. Which, again, is why I said what I said to him. But it's a lose/lose situation, though. Like I said, I shouldn't even have said that to him. Damned if you do and damned if you don't kind of deal if one happens to be white.

I feel no shame about factual statements, they are only racist if you imply it has to be that way, that it would be impossible for Blacks to learn and accept freedom.

Right now most don't.

I can deal with individuals who do when it is appropriate and with the group that doesn't when that is appropriate.

acptulsa
08-22-2017, 08:03 PM
It's kind of funny that you mention drake, though. He's actually the first person I thought of when I read the op.

People who understand our cause--understand it enough to really feel it--are rare, period. Sure, if we lose everyone else will learn to feel it, but only a relatively few of us can foresee that day. If only five percent of sixty percent of the population fit that description, that's few enough people. If only five percent of fourteen percent of the population are in that group, then they are rare indeed.

But we aren't so overwhelming in our numbers that we can afford to do without any single one of us. So, it's vital to our cause for us to be absolutely sure we never do anything to thin our own herd.

Besides, if we don't live by our principles, then we're nothing. We're worthy of no more than to have Pink Floyd wing at us, 'ha ha, charade you are'. We stand for justice, and justice is blind to all but Truth. Skin is not truth. Souls are Truth.

Swordsmyth
08-22-2017, 08:08 PM
I dunno. Maybe. I don't really define 'the church' the same as 'the church' does. If that makes sense.

I'm not sure what you mean, the church was composed of it's members, the command was to cut off and cast away those who defiled it and threatened to drag everyone else down to hell through their influence.

In our case the Nation is defined by it's borders and we need to cut off and cast away the Liberal infested areas.

Natural Citizen
08-22-2017, 08:19 PM
People who understand our cause--understand it enough to really feel it--are rare, period. Sure, if we lose everyone else will learn to feel it, but only a relatively few of us can foresee that day. If only five percent of sixty percent of the population fit that description, that's few enough people. If only five percent of fourteen percent of the population are in that group, then they are rare indeed.

But we aren't so overwhelming in our numbers that we can afford to do without any single one of us. So, it's vital to our cause for us to be absolutely sure we never do anything to thin our own herd.

Besides, if we don't live by our principles, then we're nothing. We're worthy of no more than to have Pink Floyd wing at us, 'ha ha, charade you are'. We stand for justice, and justice is blind to all but Truth. Skin is not truth. Souls are Truth.


Yeah, I know. I'm kind of just popping off tonight. The op annoyed me greatly.

donnay
08-22-2017, 08:27 PM
I'm not sure what you mean, the church was composed of it's members, the command was to cut off and cast away those who defiled it and threatened to drag everyone else down to hell through their influence.

In our case the Nation is defined by it's borders and we need to cut off and cast away the Liberal infested areas.


When you post a verse you have to know the subject of the verse. You need to read all of it, to the end. It's about following Christ and learning to forgive (7x70).

euphemia
08-22-2017, 08:31 PM
Oddly, yesterday I spent the totality time of the eclipse with my brown neighbor. We admired the beauty of it all, shed a few tears and hugged. This was the same neighbor whose granddaughter I saved from choking about 10 years ago. Don't know what that says about me, but there you go. I live a life that is about as racially reconciled as I can. I am equally friendly with black and white coworkers. Visited a black coworker in the hospital over the weekend. Again, don't know what that says about me. I'm not trying to make any kind of statement. I just live my life.

I do not think money will change anything. What changes attitudes is when people talk to each other and try to find some common ground.

Swordsmyth
08-22-2017, 08:34 PM
When you post a verse you have to know the subject of the verse. You need to read all of it, to the end. It's about following Christ and learning to forgive (7x70).

It is about both.

When to cut off and when to forgive.

6 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-6/)But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
7 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-7/)Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!
8 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-8/)Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.
9 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-9/)And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
10 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-10/)Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.
11 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-11/)For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.
12 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-12/)How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray?
13 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-13/)And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.
14 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-14/)Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.
15 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-15/)Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
16 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-16/)But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
17 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-17/)And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

oyarde
08-22-2017, 08:40 PM
I cannot take any commie seriously that starts sentences with " White People " . My white friends like Danke would not drink with me if I did that .

Madison320
08-22-2017, 08:40 PM
I feel no shame about factual statements, they are only racist if you imply it has to be that way, that it would be impossible for Blacks to learn and accept freedom.

Right now most don't.

I can deal with individuals who do when it is appropriate and with the group that doesn't when that is appropriate.

As I've said many times, I think the answer to this problem is by restricting voting to only net taxpayers. Black businessmen and black workers don't want to get their stuff stolen any more than white businessman and white workers. Of course I didn't invent this idea, the founding fathers didn't want a democracy either. I think their idea of landowners voting was good but still creates a conflict of interest. Taxpayers are the ones who should decide how their money is spent.

fisharmor
08-22-2017, 08:47 PM
7. White people, especially white women (because this is yaw specialty — Nosey Jenny and Meddling Kathy), get a racist fired. Yaw know what the fuck they be saying. You are complicit when you ignore them. Get your boss fired cause they racist too.

You know, the last time I made racial humor at work it was with, in front of, and about black people I worked with and was friends with. I got away with it because I also make white jokes with them.

Then there was the time when we had the office potluck and I made catfish and okra... and I made sure all the black people got some. They all loved it, of course, even the ones actually from Africa. But that was probably racist as shit, trying to make food they like and suggesting they get some.

To be honest, the stuff that gets said about Indians goes miles beyond what anyone would dare to say about black people at work. But nobody cares about them because they scraped their way into a master's degree in a STEM field and work their asses off for half of what white people with bach degrees in English who can get security clearances can earn.

Natural Citizen
08-22-2017, 08:51 PM
It's about following Christ and learning to forgive (7x70).

Yep. This.

But...Don't you ever get tired of forgiving your combatants all of the time, though? I do. All it does is make them stronger. It gives the wicked virtually free reign.

They just take and take and take until there's nothing else left to give. And they do it bcause they know we're just gonna say thank you sir, gimme another. Is it not the moral thing to do to fight the anti-moral? John 18:36, for example clearly permits for worldly battles against evil destroyers.

donnay
08-22-2017, 08:53 PM
It is about both.

When to cut off and when to forgive.

6 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-6/)But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
7 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-7/)Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!
8 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-8/)Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.
9 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-9/)And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
10 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-10/)Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.
11 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-11/)For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.
12 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-12/)How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray?
13 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-13/)And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.
14 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-14/)Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.
15 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-15/)Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
16 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-16/)But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
17 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-17/)And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

KJV W/ STRONGS BIBLE - MATTHEW 18

18:17 And 1161 if 1437 he shall neglect to hear 3878 5661 them 846, tell 2036 5628 unto the [I]church 1577: but 1161 2532 if 1437 he neglect to hear 3878 5661 the church 1577, let him be 2077 5749 unto thee 4671 as 5618 an heathen man 1482 and 2532 a publican 5057.
http://www.godrules.net/library/kjvstrongs/kjvstrongsmat18.htm

Church

Word: ekklhsia

Pronounce: ek-klay-see'-ah

Strongs Number: G1577

Orig: from a compound of 1537 and a derivative of 2564; a calling out, i.e. (concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both):--assembly, church. G1537

Use: TDNT-3:501,394 Noun Feminine

Heb Strong: H3862 H6951

1) a gathering of citizens called out from their homes into some public place, an assembly
1a) an assembly of the people convened at the public place of the council for the purpose of deliberating
1b) the assembly of the Israelites
1c) any gathering or throng of men assembled by chance, tumultuously
1d) in a Christian sense
1d1) an assembly of Christians gathered for worship in a religious meeting
1d2) a company of Christians, or of those who, hoping for eternal salvation through Jesus Christ, observe their own religious rites, hold their own religious meetings, and manage their own affairs, according to regulations prescribed for the body for order's sake
1d3) those who anywhere, in a city, village, constitute such a company and are united into one body
1d4) the whole body of Christians scattered throughout the earth
1d5) the assembly of faithful Christians already dead and received into heaven

Heathen

Word: eqnikoj

Pronounce: eth-nee-kos'

Strongs Number: G1482

Orig: from 1484; national ("ethnic"), i.e. (specially) a Gentile:--heathen (man). G1484

Use: TDNT-2:372,201 Noun Masculine

Heb Strong:

1) adapted to the genius or customs of a people, peculiar to a people, national
2) suited to the manners or language of foreigners, strange, foreign
3) in the NT savouring of the nature of pagans, alien to the worship of the true God, heathenish
3a) of the pagan, the Gentile


Publican

Word: telwnhj

Pronounce: tel-o'-nace

Strongs Number: G5057

Orig: from 5056 and 5608; a tax-farmer, i.e. collector of public revenue:--publican. G5056

Use: TDNT-8:88,1166 Noun Masculine

Heb Strong:

1) a renter or farmer of taxes
1a) among the Romans, usually a man of equestrian rank
2) a tax gatherer, collector of taxes or tolls, one employed by a publican or farmer general in the collection of taxes. The tax collectors were as a class, detested not only by the Jews, but by other nations also, both on account of their employment and of the harshness, greed, and deception, with which they did their job.

For Synonyms see entry G5942

euphemia
08-22-2017, 08:56 PM
I do not like overt references to race at all because almost nobody gets it right. People used to say Tiger Woods was the first African-American to win the Masters. No, he wasn't. He's multiracial. His mom is from Thailand, and at least one of his grandparents is white. Obama is biracial. His mom was white At least two of his grandparents were white.

Swordsmyth
08-22-2017, 08:58 PM
Yep. This.

But...Don't you ever get tired of forgiving your combatants all of the time, though? I do. All it does is make them stronger. It gives the wicked virtually free reign.

They just take and take and take until there's nothing else left to give. And they do it bcause they know we're just gonna say thank you sir, gimme another. Is it not the moral thing to do to fight the anti-moral? John 18:36, for example clearly permits for worldly battles against evil destroyers.

It is about both.

17 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-18-17/)And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

One my favorite verses is:

Luke 22:36 “Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.”

donnay
08-22-2017, 08:59 PM
Yep. This.

But...Don't you ever get tired of forgiving your combatants all of the time, though? I do. All it does is make them stronger. It gives the wicked virtually free reign.

They just take and take and take until there's nothing else left to give. And they do it bcause they know we're just gonna say thank you sir, gimme another. Is it not the moral thing to do to fight the anti-moral? John 18:36, for example clearly permits for worldly battles against evil destroyers.

If we do not learn to forgive others, what makes us believe that God should forgive us?


John 15:18-27 (KJV)

18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.

21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.

22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin.

23 He that hateth me hateth my Father also.

24 If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father.

25 But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.

26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.

Swordsmyth
08-22-2017, 09:03 PM
If we do not learn to forgive others, what makes us believe that God should forgive us?


John 15:18-27 (KJV)

18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.

21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.

22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin.

23 He that hateth me hateth my Father also.

24 If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father.

25 But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.

26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.

The libs have surpassed 70x7 a long time ago.

I am still willing to forgive them IF they secede and leave us alone.

Ender
08-22-2017, 09:04 PM
I do not like overt references to race at all because almost nobody gets it right. People used to say Tiger Woods was the first African-American to win the Masters. No, he wasn't. He's multiracial. His mom is from Thailand, and at least one of his grandparents is white. Obama is biracial. His mom was white At least two of his grandparents were white.

According to US law, 1 drop of black blood made you black.

I'm "white" but I'm also Cherokee, Scot/Irish, a bit of Welsh & French and black. officially that makes me "black" but no one would ever know it.

So, according to this OP, I should be able to give my wealth & land to myself, amirite? ;)

acptulsa
08-22-2017, 09:09 PM
Matthew 21

12And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, 13And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.

14And the blind and the lame came to him in the temple; and he healed them. 15And when the chief priests and scribes saw the wonderful things that he did, and the children crying in the temple, and saying, Hosanna to the Son of David; they were sore displeased

euphemia
08-22-2017, 09:13 PM
My DNA shows 6% Middle Eastern and all the rest from western Europe. I'm blond and blue eyed. Go figure. I think the ancestral home in Scotland was purchased by a relative who is Korean.

Natural Citizen
08-22-2017, 09:18 PM
If we do not learn to forgive others, what makes us believe that God should forgive us?


John 15:18-27 (KJV)

18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.

21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.

22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin.

23 He that hateth me hateth my Father also.

24 If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father.

25 But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.

26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.

Yeah, I get all of that, donnay, but all I was saying is that there is also scripture throughout the Bible that tells us that worldly battles against the evil destroyers is the right thing to do. There are scriptures that remind us, that as saved Christians, we are still citizens of two Kingdoms.

Anyway. As I said earlier, we're darned if we do and darned if we don't.

I'll try to turn the other cheek as best I can but if I ever end up on the receiving end of this horse pucky because I'm simply white...



BLM leader, ''you got hands: use them."


...then Ima pop it like it's hot. Somebody's catching a major ass whippin on that day. No doubt about it. Sorry. I'll lask the Good Lord to forgive me.

I'm done with the thread.

Proceed, all...

Natural Citizen
08-22-2017, 09:32 PM
Well, no, one last thing I want to say before I hit the bricks is that the ways of the world were so much clearer when I held atheist views. I didn't have to put some kind of blinders on every day like everything was just okay and let the bad guys just do whatever they want without uttering so much as a word against them to the contrary of their actions. It was so much easier to call a spade a spade and be done with it.

donnay
08-22-2017, 09:33 PM
Yeah, I get all of that, donnay, but all I was saying is that there is also scripture throughout the Bible that tells us that worldly battles against the evil destroyers is the right thing to do. There are scriptures that remind us, that as saved Christians, we are still citizens of two Kingdoms.

Anyway. As I said earlier, we're darned if we do and darned if we don't.

I'll try to turn the other cheeck as best I can but if I ever end up on the receiving end of this horse pucky because I'm simply white...





...then Ima pop it like it's hot. Somebody's catching a major ass whippin on that day. No doubt about it. Sorry. I'll lask the Good Lord to forgive me.

I'm done with the thread.

Proceed, all...


Psalm 144:1 (KJV)
144 Blessed be the Lord my strength which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight:

euphemia
08-22-2017, 09:35 PM
I'm not sure why your faith hinders your opinion. I have plenty of opinion, but my faith means I don't worry about what bad guys do. God is ultimately in control. Underneath are the everlasting arms, you know?

euphemia
08-22-2017, 09:38 PM
Frankly, it's easy to see who is tolerant and who isn't. I have a friend who is all New Agey. He says he honors all paths, but one time he asked me a question that meant I had to be flat out honest on a matter of faith. He tried to argue the point. That's when I knew he really did not honor my path and that while he said he believed in everything he really believed in nothing. He's still a friend.

Wooden Indian
08-22-2017, 10:17 PM
Frankly, it's easy to see who is tolerant and who isn't. I have a friend who is all New Agey. He says he honors all paths, but one time he asked me a question that meant I had to be flat out honest on a matter of faith. He tried to argue the point. That's when I knew he really did not honor my path and that while he said he believed in everything he really believed in nothing. He's still a friend.

No offense to you intended, it's just that I've had a few of those "friends" in my life... drop him like a bad habit. It's foolish to surround yourself with people like that because it always ends poorly for you. Always.

oyarde
08-22-2017, 10:28 PM
Maybe the American Indian would have something to say to Channel about all this land stuff.

Well , maybe Dankes Minnesota Casino Indians could teach the black commies some capitalism .

DGambler
08-22-2017, 10:39 PM
Wish people would learn to understand the difference between racist and bigoted.

I'm getting triggered by a lot of shit lately.

Raginfridus
08-22-2017, 10:41 PM
Well, no, one last thing I want to say before I hit the bricks is that the ways of the world were so much clearer when I held atheist views. I didn't have to put some kind of blinders on every day like everything was just okay and let the bad guys just do whatever they want without uttering so much as a word against them to the contrary of their actions. It was so much easier to call a spade a spade and be done with it.If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness! Matthew 6:23

It could be what church you go to, if you attend one at all, but easy calls aren't always for the best. For one, spades can't lie but people do.

euphemia
08-22-2017, 10:46 PM
No offense to you intended, it's just that I've had a few of those "friends" in my life... drop him like a bad habit. It's foolish to surround yourself with people like that because it always ends poorly for you. Always.

It's okay, really. He's not in a position to give me too much grief. Hopefully he came away from the discussion with some things to think about

Danke
08-23-2017, 12:46 AM
I cannot take any commie seriously that starts sentences with " White People " . My white friends like Danke would not drink with me if I did that .


"My white friends like Danke...?

you been smoking Peyote again tonight?

lilymc
08-23-2017, 04:42 AM
Looks like more media propaganda to create a reality civil war show.

^ This.



I'm not sure why your faith hinders your opinion. I have plenty of opinion, but my faith means I don't worry about what bad guys do. God is ultimately in control. Underneath are the everlasting arms, you know?

^ and this.


*yawn*

jmdrake
08-23-2017, 04:56 AM
White people, here are 10 requests from a Black Lives Matter leader

https://www.leoweekly.com/2017/08/white-people/

Aug 16 2017

By Chanelle Helm cofounder and core organizer of Black Lives Matter Louisville

1. White people, if you don’t have any descendants, will your property to a black or brown family. Preferably one that lives in generational poverty.

2. White people, if you’re inheriting property you intend to sell upon acceptance, give it to a black or brown family. You’re bound to make that money in some other white privileged way.

3. If you are a developer or realty owner of multi-family housing, build a sustainable complex in a black or brown blighted neighborhood and let black and brown people live in it for free.

4. White people, if you can afford to downsize, give up the home you own to a black or brown family. Preferably a family from generational poverty.

5. White people, if any of the people you intend to leave your property to are racists $#@!s, change the will, and will your property to a black or brown family. Preferably a family from generational poverty.

6. White people, re-budget your monthly so you can donate to black funds for land purchasing.

7. White people, especially white women (because this is yaw specialty — Nosey Jenny and Meddling Kathy), get a racist fired. Yaw know what the $#@! they be saying. You are complicit when you ignore them. Get your boss fired cause they racist too.

8. Backing up No. 7, this should be easy but all those sheetless Klan, Nazi’s and Other lil’ dick-white men will all be returning to work. Get they ass fired. Call the police even: they look suspicious.

9. OK, backing up No. 8, if any white person at your work, or as you enter in spaces and you overhear a white person praising the actions from yesterday, first, get a pic. Get their name and more info. Hell, find out where they work — Get Them Fired. But certainly address them, and, if you need to, you got hands: use them.

10. Commit to two things: Fighting white supremacy where and how you can (this doesn’t mean taking up knitting, unless you’re making scarves for black and brown kids in need), and funding black and brown people and their work.

Notice that "passing laws that hold police accountable when an innocent person is killed" isn't on the list.

shakey1
08-23-2017, 07:34 AM
My advice is stay out of the cities.

... and if you must go, be aware of your surroundings, lest you be targeted for their particular brand of chosen aggression.

Swordsmyth
08-23-2017, 12:28 PM
Notice that "passing laws that hold police accountable when an innocent person is killed" isn't on the list.

That would deprive them of their best tool for inciting violent revolution.
They WANT more dead black people, it's good for business.

euphemia
08-23-2017, 01:57 PM
Here's another interesting point: The government-licensed media likes people from the Middle East as long as they fit the stereotype of Muslim and ignorant. The well-educated Arab-speaking Christian population are all but ignored. I had an opportunity to advocated for a zoning variance for a group of Arab-speaking Christians, and I took the opportunity to push every button I could, including calling them, "underserved." As it happens, my testimony won the day for the group and I couldn't be happier.

I appreciate the opportunity to be able to express my thoughts in a public forum. Thank you all for indulging me.