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Swordsmyth
08-18-2017, 12:40 PM
Earlier this week we noted (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-17/assange-vows-proof-russia-was-not-his-source-3-hour-meeting-congressman) that Representative Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA) had a three hour meeting with Julian Assange at the Ecuadorian embassy in London to discuss 'helpful' information which Assange purported would prove that Russia was not his source for the DNC / Podesta leaks last year.
Not surprisingly, the mainstream media chose not to focus on that angle and decided instead to focus all of their efforts on branding Rohrabacher as a Russian spy. That said, here is how Rohrabacher recounted the details of the meeting with Assange to The Hill (http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/346904-assange-meets-us-congressman-vows-to-prove-russia-did-not-leak-him):



“Our three-hour meeting covered a wide array of issues, including the WikiLeaks exposure of the DNC emails during last year's presidential election,” Rohrabacher said, “Julian emphatically stated that the Russians were not involved in the hacking or disclosure of those emails."

Pressed for more detail on the source of the documents, Rohrabacher said he had information to share privately with President Donald Trump.

“Julian also indicated that he is open to further discussions regarding specific information about the DNC email incident that is currently unknown to the public,” he added.
Now, the following tweet from an account that tracks the every move of the Trump family has sparked new speculation that a Presidential pardon of Julian Assange may be in the works...something that is undoubtedly not all that palatable to our friends at CNN and MSNBC.

DonaldJTrumpJr has just followed @JulianAssange (https://twitter.com/JulianAssange).
— Trump Alert (@TrumpsAlert) August 18, 2017 (https://twitter.com/TrumpsAlert/status/898507291955044352)


More at: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-18/trump-jr-follows-julian-assange-sparks-media-panic-presidential-pardon-works

misterx
08-18-2017, 12:46 PM
We can only hope. I'd be surprised though. I'm surprised anytime I see anything good out of this administration.

dannno
08-18-2017, 12:49 PM
We can only hope. I'd be surprised though. I'm surprised anytime I see anything good out of this administration.

Trump tried to play nice with the globalists and they gutted all of the talent in his administration. Now they are trying to kick Trump out with these shadow campaigns, they've been running fake Trump PACs that are actually for Mike Pence.

Trump is about to start fucking shit up soon, imo.

misterx
08-18-2017, 01:41 PM
Trump tried to play nice with the globalists and they gutted all of the talent in his administration. Now they are trying to kick Trump out with these shadow campaigns, they've been running fake Trump PACs that are actually for Mike Pence.

Trump is about to start $#@!ing $#@! up soon, imo.

It's too late. He was done the moment he let Flynn go. With that one move he lost control of the military and intelligence communities. He is isolated and alone now. It's over. If he makes any moves to salvage it at this point he'll be impeached.

AuH20
08-18-2017, 03:57 PM
Trump tried to play nice with the globalists and they gutted all of the talent in his administration. Now they are trying to kick Trump out with these shadow campaigns, they've been running fake Trump PACs that are actually for Mike Pence.

Trump is about to start $#@!ing $#@! up soon, imo.

Trump is being set up for death. First, the orchestrated disgrace campaign and then the actual harm comes later.

acptulsa
08-18-2017, 05:44 PM
Trump is being set up for death. First, the orchestrated disgrace campaign and then the actual harm comes later.

Yeah, because the powers that be are stupid enough to turn their pet useful idiot figurehead into a martyr. Thus motivating people while simultaneously eliminating the asset they have who can best control them and stick a pacifier in their mouths.

Hold your breath until it happens. Then, when you wake up with a headache and it hasn't happened, do it again. Rinse and repeat.

r3volution 3.0
08-18-2017, 11:34 PM
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Zippyjuan
08-19-2017, 10:57 AM
What charges has the US actually filed against Assange? He can't be pardoned if he is not charged with anything. Sweden had charges against him but those have been dropped.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/world/europe/julian-assange-wikileaks-offers-extradition-to-us.html?mcubz=0


. The other issue for Mr. Assange is that there is no public indictment of him from the United States and no extradition order. American officials have not requested that he come to the United States.

There is, however, an extradition order from Sweden, as it investigates a 2010 accusation of rape. He has not been charged by Sweden, but he faces arrest if he leaves the embassy.

spudea
08-19-2017, 11:04 AM
Yep all the pardon headlines are fake news. Apparently he is wanted for questioning. The strategy is extradition to Sweden, then extradition to US.

acptulsa
08-19-2017, 11:15 AM
What charges has the US actually filed against Assange? He can't be pardoned if he is not charged with anything. Sweden had charges against him but those have been dropped.

You know, I know, every major news source in the world knows, and everyone but your brainwashed dog knows that the U.S. has been threatening to charge him with espionage.

You also know that Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon before anyone had a chance to bring formal charges against him (note I'm not talking about grounds for impeachment, but criminal charges), in order to prevent formal charges from being brought against him.

Zippyjuan
08-19-2017, 11:19 AM
You know, I know, every major news source in the world knows, and everyone but your brainwashed dog knows that the U.S. has been threatening to charge him with espionage.

You also know that Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon before anyone had a chance to bring formal charges against him (note I'm not talking about grounds for impeachment, but criminal charges), in order to prevent formal charges from being brought against him.

Assange is neither a US Citizen or a president. They are not comparable. Nixon was promised a pardon if he was willing to resign- it was an effort to help heal the country.

acptulsa
08-19-2017, 11:31 AM
Assange is neither a US Citizen or a president. They are not comparable. Nixon was promised a pardon if he was willing to resign- it was an effort to help heal the country.

A person has to be an ex-president to be pardoned? A person has to be a U.S. citizen to be charged with a crime? The Constitution restricts the presidential power of the pardon to only citizens? Assange can't be promised a pardon if he is willing to give Trump information that Trump thinks might heal the country?

Do tell, Zippy. Just how is this so 'not comparable' that it can't be done? And what does any of it have to do with the fact that someone has indeed been pardoned for crimes he had not yet been charged with?

Do you have a point? Are you going to get around to making it?

Zippyjuan
08-19-2017, 11:32 AM
A person has to be an ex-president to be pardoned? A person has to be a U.S. citizen to be charged with a crime? The Constitution restricts the presidential power of the pardon to only citizens? Assange can't be promised a pardon if he is willing to give Trump information that Trump thinks might heal the country?

Do tell, Zippy. Just how is this so 'not comparable' that it can't be done? And what does any of it have to do with the fact that someone has indeed been pardoned for crimes he had not yet been charged with?

Do you have a point? Are you going to get around to making it?

How many foreigners not charged or convicted of any crimes have ever been pardoned by a US president?

Trump has been on both sides of the Assange issue. He has said Assange should be locked up. He has said he loves Wikileaks (when they released the DNC material during the election) and has since being elected suggested charges will again be brought against Assange. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/may/19/trump-assange-friendship-us-charges-classified-wikileaks

Nobody knows what he really thinks or will do.

acptulsa
08-19-2017, 11:45 AM
How many foreigners not charged or convicted of any crimes have ever been pardoned by a US president?

So there's a complete lack of precedent. So what?


Trump has been on both sides of the Assange issue. He has said Assange should be locked up. He has said he loves Wikileaks (when they released the DNC material during the election) and has since being elected suggested charges will again be brought against Assange. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/may/19/trump-assange-friendship-us-charges-classified-wikileaks

Nobody knows what he really thinks or will do.

Trump is liable to do anything, including distracting us all from his other shenanigans by doing something with no precedent and watching the fur fly. What does this have to do with the fact that you said no one can be pardoned for a crime before they are charged with it, and I proved you wrong?

Swordsmyth
08-19-2017, 12:03 PM
What charges has the US actually filed against Assange? He can't be pardoned if he is not charged with anything. Sweden had charges against him but those have been dropped.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/world/europe/julian-assange-wikileaks-offers-extradition-to-us.html?mcubz=0
He could give him a blanket pardon against espionage charges.


By the way welcome back, how was Charlottesville? Did you punch many NAZIs?

charrob
08-19-2017, 12:46 PM
What charges has the US actually filed against Assange? He can't be pardoned if he is not charged with anything. Sweden had charges against him but those have been dropped.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/world/europe/julian-assange-wikileaks-offers-extradition-to-us.html?mcubz=0

My understanding is that Obama created a Grand Jury to try Assange and that Grand Jury still meets on his supposed case. Although Sweden's charges have now been dropped, Britain has charged him for not giving himself up to the British.

Zippyjuan
08-19-2017, 12:51 PM
My understanding is that Obama created a Grand Jury to try Assange and that Grand Jury still meets on his supposed case. Although Sweden's charges have now been dropped, Britain has charged him for not giving himself up to the British.

They did form a Grand Jury to decide whether or not to charge Assange but no charges have ever been filed. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2011/may/11/us-opens-wikileaks-grand-jury-hearing

Trump administration has not ruled out any charges either. So again, we have Trump on both sides of the Assange question.

https://apnews.com/d4ea9fbaf2ad439bb657ecdf07e31ebe (from April):


The Latest: Trump says charges against Assange would be ‘OK’

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on President Donald Trump (all times local):

3:50 p.m.

President Donald Trump says that if the Justice Department wants to charge WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, “it’s OK with me.”

Trump says he is not involved in that decision-making process, but would support Attorney General Jeff Sessions if he charged Assange with a crime.

The administration has stepped up its rhetoric against WikiLeaks in recent days, despite the fact that Trump welcomed the group’s release of a top Hillary Clinton aide’s emails during the election.

Sessions told reporters Thursday that Assange’s arrest is a priority as the Justice Department steps up efforts to prosecute people who leak classified information to the media. CIA Director Mike Pompeo last week denounced WikiLeaks as a “hostile intelligence service” and a threat to U.S. national security.