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tod evans
08-10-2017, 10:34 AM
From Drudge;

'Fat Studies' course deems 'weightism' a 'social justice issue'

http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=9570

"Fat Studies" is returning to Oregon State University next spring, when students will be able to earn three credits to explore “forms of activism used to counter weightism perpetuated throughout various societal institutions.”
“My course now frames body image disturbances more as a function of oppressive societal structures than of individual pathology," Patti Lou-Watkins explains in a 2012 academic journal article.

Oregon State University will offer a spring course on “fat studies” in order to teach students how “weight-based oppression” is a “social justice issue.”

According to a syllabus for the course obtained by Campus Reform, students will examine “body weight, shape, and size as an area of human difference subject to privilege and discrimination that intersects with other systems of oppression based on gender, race, class, age, sexual orientation, and ability.”

"The field of fat studies has undergone tremendous growth in recent years." Tweet This


The course will be taught by Professor Patti Lou-Watkins, who has written extensively on “body image disorders, particularly as they relate to weight bias and physical activity” in academic journals and books.

In a 2013 article in European Health Psychologist, for instance, Lou-Watkins argues that the growing “war on obesity” has actually caused more harm than good, saying many who attempt to lose weight suffer psychological consequences.

“Indeed, as the ‘War on Obesity’ has escalated, so has weight-based bias and discrimination,” Lou-Watkins adds, noting that “weight bias is particularly evident among healthcare professionals, compromising the well-being of their patients.”


Similarly, in an article called “Teaching about Eating Disorders from a Fat Studies Perspectives,” Lou-Watkins discusses the sorts of “pedagogy” she now applies in her courses.

“I grew to embrace feminist pedagogy in terms of course content as well as classroom practices,” she explains. “My course now frames body image disturbances more as a function of oppressive societal structures than of individual pathology."

In yet another article, Lou-Watkins celebrates the fact that “the field of fat studies has undergone tremendous growth in recent years, with colleges now offering courses in this area,” such as hers.


Indeed, students enrolled in her spring Fat Studies course will be presented with opportunities to explore “forms of activism used to counter weightism perpetuated throughout various societal institutions.”

The three-credit course, however, is not the only of its kind at OSU, with another class called “Women, Weight, and Body Image” similarly examining “weightism as a system of oppression that interacts with other systems of oppression” such as “sexism, racism, classism, heterosexism, ableism, and ageism.”

Lou-Watkins has offered the Fat Studies course in previous semesters, as well, according to The Daily Caller.

Campus Reform reached out to Lou-Watkins for additional comment on her course, but did not receive a response in time for publication.

Ender
08-10-2017, 11:16 AM
I'd say that's pretty "sexist". ;)

Women aren't the only ones who are disparaged because of weight and body types.

Weight "hate" has also changed throughout history. It used to be that fat was a sign of wealth and skinny meant you were poor and should be ignored. Then the "Twiggy" years switched that concept.

specsaregood
08-10-2017, 11:19 AM
I'd say that's pretty "sexist". ;)

Women aren't the only ones who are disparaged because of weight and body types.

Weight "hate" has also changed throughout history. It used to be that fat was a sign of wealth and skinny meant you were poor and should be ignored. Then the "Twiggy" years switched that concept.

example of which was the recent thread with older women complaining of not finding good men and complaining because all the available men were fat.

Working Poor
08-10-2017, 11:30 AM
I tell ya I have been to many places with many different types of people but never in my life have I ever experienced such hatefulness and rudeness from the general public as I did when I went to the beach with my sister.

I almost got arrested because I jumped on this one MFer who was following us around oinking like a pig and yelling Suie suie. But it wasn't just him making rude remarks it was a lot of people mostly men. I could not believe it I have never seen or heard anything like it. My sister said it happens all the time when she goes in public. I am sure that all the shaming does not make a fat person go home and say oh let me drink a glass of water and have a soda cracker for my mid-night snack so I can loose weight and then maybe society will stop treating me like I am less than a piece of trash. A gambler, sex addict, drug addict, even an alcoholic can appear normal to society but a fat person can't hide their problem from anyone who can see.

Cops came and pulled me off the guy he was big too and he went down in about one second. I put up with it for as long as I could stand and I did warn him several times that he did not want to be messing with my sister like that. He did not believe I could take him down.

If you are a person who thinks it is ok to walk behind a fat person and mutter to them about what a pig they are you need to remember that people have a right to be left alone even if they are fat.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
08-10-2017, 02:46 PM
Sounds like that class will have a lot of heavy discussion.


ba-dum-tis

shakey1
08-10-2017, 02:53 PM
Sounds like that class will have a lot of heavy discussion.


ba-dum-tis


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-4-gLlF0uw

Schifference
08-10-2017, 03:10 PM
One cannot assume that all drug addicts or alcoholics are thin. Honestly, a drug habit can sneak up on someone. Obesity takes time. A person has to look into a mirror everyday and they have no one to blame but themselves or their parents.

Some guys think fat chicks are hot.

I would think that fat people discriminate against skinny people. I would bet that if an obese person is in a position to make a sizable purchase or choose a vendor for the company they work for and has to decide between giving that deal to a skinny person or a fat person they would probably give it to the fat person.

Go anyplace and open your eyes. The majority of people in this country are more than a little overweight. Skinny people are definitely the minority.

Some of this burden is self shame that the obese person inflicts upon themselves.

dannno
08-10-2017, 03:25 PM
I tell ya I have been to many places with many different types of people but never in my life have I ever experienced such hatefulness and rudeness from the general public as I did when I went to the beach with my sister.

I almost got arrested because I jumped on this one MFer who was following us around oinking like a pig and yelling Suie suie. But it wasn't just him making rude remarks it was a lot of people mostly men. I could not believe it I have never seen or heard anything like it. My sister said it happens all the time when she goes in public. I am sure that all the shaming does not make a fat person go home and say oh let me drink a glass of water and have a soda cracker for my mid-night snack so I can loose weight and then maybe society will stop treating me like I am less than a piece of trash. A gambler, sex addict, drug addict, even an alcoholic can appear normal to society but a fat person can't hide their problem from anyone who can see.

Cops came and pulled me off the guy he was big too and he went down in about one second. I put up with it for as long as I could stand and I did warn him several times that he did not want to be messing with my sister like that. He did not believe I could take him down.

If you are a person who thinks it is ok to walk behind a fat person and mutter to them about what a pig they are you need to remember that people have a right to be left alone even if they are fat.

Damn, how big is she?? I've never heard anything like that in public before.. well except maybe public high school or middle school

NorthCarolinaLiberty
08-10-2017, 03:28 PM
Maybe the class should be called Body Terrorism.





Google search =
search = body terrorism







What is Body Terrorism? - The Body Is Not An Apology
https://thebodyisnotanapology.com/about-tbinaa/what-is-body-terrorism/
Terrorism is the inflicting of such fear on an individual or group. ... on countering the devastating impacts of hating our bodies and having others hate our bodies.

5 Ways People with Thin Privilege Can Fight Body Terrorism
https://thebodyisnotanapology.com/.../how-people-with-thin-privilege-can-fight-body...
Sep 19, 2016 - Hey, fellow folks with thin privilege (you should know who you are): We need to talk. ... There is a huge difference between skinny shaming and fat shaming—and it’s a difference of scale and systemic power dynamics. ... So, if you are someone with thin privilege, and you are committed ...

Body Terrorism? That's an interesting way of putting it! : fatlogic - Reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/fatlogic/.../body_terrorism_thats_an_interesting_way_of/
Jul 21, 2015 - 19 posts - ‎18 authors
Fuck! I didn't know! I'm a body terrorist! Can we body terrorists use this a recruitment material? I think it'd make a terrorist ou of anyone.

We call it Body Terrorism : fatlogic - Reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/fatlogic/comments/4qlgtf/we_call_it_body_terrorism/
Jun 30, 2016 - I call overeating to the point of self-destruction "body terrorism". It's like strapping a suicide vest to your organs and tossing the detonator around ...


body terrorism | Tumblr
https://www.tumblr.com/tagged/body-terrorism
The aesthetic of the doctor is A+. I really love it especially that it kicks out of the cliche with the actual buffed body build. His animation in both stance is great and ...

Body Terrorism Starts When We're Young - The Body Is Not An Apology
thebodyisnotanapology.tumblr.com/post/.../body-terrorism-starts-when-were-young
Aug 16, 2013 - The clothes that girls wear and boys don't (dresses, skirts, jumpers) are clothes that make us more aware of our bodies and how they are seen ...

Schifference
08-10-2017, 03:30 PM
Sounds like that class will have a lot of heavy discussion.


ba-dum-tis

Yes heavy discussion based class with only light reading required.

Jamesiv1
08-10-2017, 03:37 PM
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Schifference
08-10-2017, 03:42 PM
I once heard of an obese lady that was arrested for allegedly having 20 pounds of crack up her skirt.

Schifference
08-10-2017, 03:43 PM
Any person that doesn't like a good fat joke needs to lighten up.

Schifference
08-10-2017, 03:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0xoMhCT-7A

Anti Federalist
08-10-2017, 08:11 PM
According to a syllabus for the course obtained by Campus Reform, students will examine “body weight, shape, and size as an area of human difference subject to privilege and discrimination that intersects with other systems of oppression based on gender, race, class, age, sexual orientation, and ability.”

Ability?

So does this mean I can sue NASA for not hiring me as rocket scientist because of "ability-ism?"

And the leftists say there is no such thing as gender.

So how can you discriminate based on that?

For that matter, how can there be a gender pay gap?

angelatc
08-10-2017, 08:13 PM
Yes heavy discussion based class with only light reading required.

Will there be snacks?

NorthCarolinaLiberty
08-10-2017, 08:23 PM
https://www.karyasarma.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/be-nice-to-fat-people-one-day-they-may-save-your-life.jpg

heavenlyboy34
08-10-2017, 09:02 PM
Ability?

So does this mean I can sue NASA for not hiring me as rocket scientist because of "ability-ism?"

And the leftists say there is no such thing as gender.

So how can you discriminate based on that?

For that matter, how can there be a gender pay gap?
Nonononono....there are genders,they're just fluid, you see. You might be male one day, female another, and attack helicopter another. :D :cool: Just be sure to tell people about your pronouns.

dannno
08-10-2017, 09:50 PM
Ability?

So does this mean I can sue NASA for not hiring me as rocket scientist because of "ability-ism?"

And the leftists say there is no such thing as gender.

So how can you discriminate based on that?

For that matter, how can there be a gender pay gap?

I think they are referring to the "disabled", yes

specsaregood
08-10-2017, 10:00 PM
Damn, how big is she?? I've never heard anything like that in public before.. well except maybe public high school or middle school

Implied in your comment is that there is a certain level of bigness that makes such behavior either expected or acceptable. Otherwise, why ask "how big is she??".

Anti Federalist
08-10-2017, 10:01 PM
I think they are referring to the "disabled", yes

That is a different label: ableism

The quote I posted specifically said ability with no qualifiers.

Anti Federalist
08-10-2017, 10:01 PM
I sense....a People of Wal Marx picture coming up...

Anti Federalist
08-10-2017, 10:09 PM
http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/2716.jpg

UWDude
08-10-2017, 11:18 PM
I tell ya I have been to many places with many different types of people but never in my life have I ever experienced such hatefulness and rudeness from the general public as I did when I went to the beach with my sister.

I almost got arrested because I jumped on this one MFer who was following us around oinking like a pig and yelling Suie suie. But it wasn't just him making rude remarks it was a lot of people mostly men. I could not believe it I have never seen or heard anything like it. My sister said it happens all the time when she goes in public. I am sure that all the shaming does not make a fat person go home and say oh let me drink a glass of water and have a soda cracker for my mid-night snack so I can loose weight and then maybe society will stop treating me like I am less than a piece of trash. A gambler, sex addict, drug addict, even an alcoholic can appear normal to society but a fat person can't hide their problem from anyone who can see.

Cops came and pulled me off the guy he was big too and he went down in about one second. I put up with it for as long as I could stand and I did warn him several times that he did not want to be messing with my sister like that. He did not believe I could take him down.

If you are a person who thinks it is ok to walk behind a fat person and mutter to them about what a pig they are you need to remember that people have a right to be left alone even if they are fat.


My parents are enormous. They have never been treated rudely, ever. I don't think your anecdote is anywhere near the norm. In fact, I have never in my life witnessed a fat person being publicly shamed or humiliated for being fat, beyond third grade. So to say it happens to your sister all the time has to be an outright lie.

Wooden Indian
08-10-2017, 11:33 PM
My parents are enormous. They have never been treated rudely, ever. I don't think your anecdote is anywhere near the norm. In fact, I have never in my life witnessed a fat person being publicly shamed or humiliated for being fat, beyond third grade. So to say it happens to your sister all the time has to be an outright lie.

A good friend of mine as a teenager was a really big dude. Fat all his life as far as I know. Anyway, he caught hell from other kids/ teens daily.

Too say otherwise is an outright lie.

UWDude
08-10-2017, 11:36 PM
A good friend of mine as a teenager was a really big dude. Fat all his life as far as I know. Anyway, he caught hell from other kids/ teens daily.

Too say otherwise is an outright lie.

where and when? in the 90's we had a few fat kids in high school, and they were rarely, if ever bullied for it.

I had a fat friend and roommate. everybody loved him. he was the life of the party.

UWDude
08-10-2017, 11:41 PM
A good friend of mine as a teenager was a really big dude. Fat all his life as far as I know. Anyway, he caught hell from other kids/ teens daily.

Too say otherwise is an outright lie.


since he is a good friend of your, please do tell us of all the times you have witnessed him being bullied for being fat.

r3volution 3.0
08-11-2017, 12:02 AM
In yet another article, Lou-Watkins celebrates the fact that “the field of fat studies has undergone tremendous growth in recent years...

https://i.giphy.com/media/63vbL2hhmxDkk/200_s.gif


...with colleges now offering courses

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/mjl.gif

UWDude
08-11-2017, 12:04 AM
https://i.giphy.com/media/63vbL2hhmxDkk/200_s.gif



http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/mjl.gif

LoL!!

anaconda
08-11-2017, 12:19 AM
I'd say that's pretty "sexist". ;)

Then the "Twiggy" years switched that concept.

And heart disease, diabetes, etc.

anaconda
08-11-2017, 12:20 AM
It's a huge area for discussion. Fat chance on any near term policy resolutions.

Swordsmyth
08-11-2017, 01:11 AM
http://static.journalistate.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/25091822/Spirit-Animal.jpg

Wooden Indian
08-11-2017, 01:31 AM
since he is a good friend of your, please do tell us of all the times you have witnessed him being bullied for being fat.

Yeah... Tell you all of the times. Quit being a fucktard for 10 minutes of your life. Would ya?

Denying that people, teenagers in particular, are pretty dang cruel to innocent fat kids, is stupid beyond all belief. Yet with every post, your idiocy raises the bar.

So how about we do this instead, Slappy. Ready?

Now lean in real close so you really hear me... and I'll speak slowly so this.can permeate your thick misshapen head...
Get. Fucked.

Not in the literal sense, mind you. Metaphorically... as in, drag your giant-tounged, extra chromosome having ass, down to the nearest river, and drown yourself.

I'm tired of feeling sorry for you at this point... and just the knowledge that you have somehow managed to avoid choking to death on Pudding Mondays down at the home you surely reside, simply astounds me.

Or... And this up to you, you cock-gobbling skid mark of a man, you can learn to read more... and post less. It's a compromise, yet one that will benefit everyone involved. Besides, you have to be running out of moronic shit to say at this point. This will allow you to pace yourself... And who knows, maybe if you pay attention, one day you'll learn something from one of your superiors.

Now run along, boy. And don't tell mommy I dotted your eye... again.

Krugminator2
08-11-2017, 07:02 AM
Heightism is a much bigger issue and actually somewhat legitimate. Short people are statistically the most discriminated against in society.

Presidents are typically tall. The taller candidate usually wins. There is no rational reason for that. Short people earn much less. Black women earn more than short men. Jobs in sales and leadership, which are higher paying jobs, have a disproportionately high percentage of tall people.

tod evans
08-11-2017, 07:14 AM
Heightism is a much bigger issue and actually somewhat legitimate. Short people are statistically the most discriminated against in society.

Presidents are typically tall. The taller candidate usually wins. There is no rational reason for that. Short people earn much less. Black women earn more than short men. Jobs in sales and leadership, which are higher paying jobs, have a disproportionately high percentage of tall people.

But.........

Whaddabout short, fat, black women who identify as heterosexual bald white men?

Schifference
08-11-2017, 07:30 AM
Fat people have one huge advantage. They can survive for extended periods without additional food.

My experience with fat people is that they will tell people what is healthy and unhealthy to eat.

I remember when one of my kids was in 5th grade and we went to an after school activity. It was jump roping for a cause. A physical education teacher from another school came over to help with the event. This person was obese. I cannot imagine why it is not a requirement for a physical education teacher to be physically fit.

UWDude
08-11-2017, 09:50 AM
Yeah... Tell you all of the times. Quit being a $#@!tard for 10 minutes of your life. Would ya?

Denying that people, teenagers in particular, are pretty dang cruel to innocent fat kids, is stupid beyond all belief. Yet with every post, your idiocy raises the bar.

So how about we do this instead, Slappy. Ready?

Now lean in real close so you really hear me... and I'll speak slowly so this.can permeate your thick misshapen head...
Get. $#@!ed.

Not in the literal sense, mind you. Metaphorically... as in, drag your giant-tounged, extra chromosome having ass, down to the nearest river, and drown yourself.

I'm tired of feeling sorry for you at this point... and just the knowledge that you have somehow managed to avoid choking to death on Pudding Mondays down at the home you surely reside, simply astounds me.

Or... And this up to you, you cock-gobbling skid mark of a man, you can learn to read more... and post less. It's a compromise, yet one that will benefit everyone involved. Besides, you have to be running out of moronic $#@! to say at this point. This will allow you to pace yourself... And who knows, maybe if you pay attention, one day you'll learn something from one of your superiors.

Now run along, boy. And don't tell mommy I dotted your eye... again.

So you've personally witnessed nothing.

That was a lot of words just to say that.

LoL USOMAD!

And yeah, kids in school, can be cruel. It isn't just fat kids that get picked on.

I know, mind blown.

acptulsa
08-12-2017, 12:17 PM
My parents are enormous. They have never been treated rudely, ever. I don't think your anecdote is anywhere near the norm. In fact, I have never in my life witnessed a fat person being publicly shamed or humiliated for being fat, beyond third grade. So to say it happens to your sister all the time has to be an outright lie.

Seriously? And were you around to see how your parents were treated in elementary school? Seeing how your parents are treated in front of their child and seeing how one egregious, witty, personable guy you know from school is treated, and all in one little corner of the country, is all the experience anyone ever needs to understand everything there is to know about how heavy people are treated? Everyone who says anything contradictory to our limited, two decades long experience is a liar? A liar?

Intolerant much? Arrogant much? Quick to judgment much? Rude much? Like the taste of your own foot?


So you've personally witnessed nothing.

You're the one who appears to be lacking life experience. Yet you will pontificate as though you've seen it all, and know it all. You should look up the Greek roots of the word sophomore, some time. Based on that, I have my doubts as to whether you will ever outgrow the tenth grade.

Irregardless of whether Helen Keller believes the things he can't see or hear exist, this is an amusing look into the minds of progs. They can't live on backslapping and congratulating each other for being so superior alone. Sooner or later they have to look down their noses at someone. And the more 'protected classes' they create, the fewer objects they can find for their scorn.

So they pick on people who make what they consider to be 'dumb choices', and heavy people seemed a natural victim for their scorn. After all, people can control their weight, right? Well, once they get as educated as they think they were from the first, it turns out not everyone can easily control their weight. There is, for example, a thing called hypothyroidism.

Here's to the most tolerant people in the world, and the day when they have no one left to hate but each other.

UWDude
08-12-2017, 08:32 PM
hypothyroidism.



umm huh huh, yeah. Ha ha ha.


And were you around to see how your parents were treated in elementary school?

They got fat in their 20's and thirties.

Try again.

anaconda
08-12-2017, 08:37 PM
Can I weigh in on this topic?

Origanalist
08-12-2017, 10:01 PM
umm huh huh, yeah. Ha ha ha.



They got fat in their 20's and thirties.

Try again.

Sure they did. What a crock. People don't "get fat" in their "20's and thirties.".

UWDude
08-12-2017, 10:07 PM
Sure they did. What a crock. People don't "get fat" in their "20's and thirties.".

My mom was 5'8" 150 or so when she married my stepdad, who was about 6'4", 200, in the early 1990's. They are now around 290 and 250 respectively (my step dad has lost weight recently, but there was a time he was pushing 300 as well). Both were HWP in high school and their early 20's.

Wooden Indian
08-12-2017, 10:21 PM
My mom was 5'8" 150 or so when she married my stepdad, who was about 6'4", 200, in the early 1990's. They are now around 290 and 250 respectively (my step dad has lost weight recently, but there was a time he was pushing 300 as well). Both were HWP in high school and their early 20's.

I believe you. Most turn to the booze when they have disappointing kids... yours turned to cheeseburgers.

UWDude
08-12-2017, 10:24 PM
I believe you. Most turn to the booze when they have disappointing kids... yours turned to cheeseburgers.

Your troll-fu is weak.

KrokHead
08-13-2017, 05:55 AM
Sounds like that class will have a lot of heavy discussion.


ba-dum-tis
You win at the internet today sir.

Discrimination due to weight is very real. People think fat people are lazy, lack self control, and are ugly.

Unlike being black, female, and having a biological disability proper diet and fitness fixes the problem of being overweight.

acptulsa
08-13-2017, 06:29 AM
umm huh huh, yeah. Ha ha ha.

So, you've never known anyone with a hypothyroid condition, so you don't believe such a thing exists?


Unlike being black, female, and having a biological disability proper diet and fitness fixes the problem of being overweight.

It's an epidemic!

oyarde
08-13-2017, 07:25 AM
I got a lesson in weightism recently . I put on about 20 pounds when I quit smoking . When I got in muh ultra light kayak dang thing almost sunk.

Ender
08-13-2017, 09:22 AM
So, you've never known anyone with a hypothyroid condition, so you don't believe such a thing exists?



Apparently not. :rolleyes:

Hypothyroid problems are most dominant in Blood Type O's. The Great American "healthy" diet, full of carbs, is a killer for most O's and adds mucho pounds.

Schifference
08-13-2017, 09:27 AM
The top 10 medications by number of monthly prescriptions are:

Synthroid (levothyroxine), 21.5 million
Crestor (rosuvastatin), 21.4 million
Ventolin HFA (albuterol), 18.2 million
Nexium (esomeprazole), 15.2 million
Advair Diskus (fluticasone), 13.7 million
Lantus Solostar (insulin glargine), 10.9 million
Vyvanse (lisdexamfetamine), 10.4 million
Lyrica (pregabalin), 10.0 million
Spiriva Handihaler (tiotropium), 9.6 million
Januvia (sitagliptin), 9.1 million


Synthroid is used to treat hypothyroidism.

acptulsa
08-13-2017, 09:29 AM
Synthroid is used to treat hypothyroidism.

And there are only one or two others on that list which are equally vital for sustaining the very lives of the people who need them.

Schifference
08-13-2017, 09:34 AM
And there are only one or two others on that list which are equally vital for sustaining the very lives of the people who need them.

I was simply showing that hypothyroid condition was very prevalent since it is the most prescribed medication.

acptulsa
08-13-2017, 09:41 AM
I was simply showing that hypothyroid condition was very prevalent since it is the most prescribed medication.

And you did a nice job of it! You taught me something.

UWDude
08-13-2017, 09:50 AM
So....


So you never noticed that people who start a rebuttal with the word "so" are putting words in the mouth of their opponent, or building a strawman?

acptulsa
08-13-2017, 09:52 AM
So you never noticed that people who start a rebuttal with the word "so" are putting words in the mouth of their opponent, or building a strawman?

So you never noticed that a meaningless, inarticulate, disrespectful 'rebuttal' like 'umm huh huh, yeah. Ha ha ha' provides a body with a whole bale of straw to use on you?

UWDude
08-13-2017, 09:58 AM
Discrimination due to weight is very real. People think fat people are lazy, lack self control, and are ugly.

they are.

acptulsa
08-13-2017, 10:02 AM
they are.

I would point out that you are lumping tens of millions of people with hypoactive thyroids in with people who might actually deserve your scorn. But to watch you hold your own parents up to public scorn in this way is just too distracting.

Now we all get to decide if your parents deserve more of our pity, or if you do.

UWDude
08-13-2017, 10:11 AM
muh thyroids! Get ma washin' stick!

Please.

How come in the 1950's hardly anybody had hyperthyroidism?


Get off your high rascal. I am getting the feeling my pity is for you. In other words, having anybody who is obese, tell me they pity me, for anything, is laughable.

acptulsa
08-13-2017, 10:15 AM
How come in the 1950's hardly anybody had hyperthyroidism?

Would you care to link to this "fact"? Because hyperthyroid conditions aside (and that certainly doesn't lead to an excess of weight!), I personally know someone who has taken synthroid for a hypothyroid condition since the 1950s.

Gotta love people who remain willfully ignorant of anything that happened before they were born.

So why don't you ask, where were all the people with inactive thyroids before Levothyroxine was invented in 1927? Because I'd be happy to educate you. They all died before their time. That's the mother that caused that particular invention.

Schifference
08-13-2017, 10:20 AM
muh thyroids! Get ma washin' stick!

Please.

How come in the 1950's hardly anybody had hyperthyroidism?


Get off your high rascal. I am getting the feeling my pity is for you. In other words, having anybody who is obese, tell me they pity me, for anything, is laughable.

History of hypothyroidism https://www.thyroid.org/about-american-thyroid-association/clark-t-sawin-history-resource-center/thyroid-history-timeline/

Wooden Indian
08-13-2017, 10:49 AM
they are.

While the average fat girl isn't my cup of tea, I find willfully ignorant, slow-witted, delusional douchnozzels to be far... far worse.

Just sayin'.

Schifference
08-13-2017, 11:24 AM
While it is well known that hyperthyroidism leads to weight loss, and hypothyroidism is associated with weight gain, there has been an increasing focus on the relationship between thyroid function and body weight in recent years. A moderate elevation of TSH concentrations, which is associated with triiodothyronine (T3) values in or slightly above the upper normal range, is frequently found in obese humans. These thyroid hormone alterations in obesity seem rather a consequence than a cause of obesity since weight loss leads to a normalization of elevated thyroid hormone levels. The underlying pathways are not fully understood. White adipose tissue, the largest energy store in the body, actively produces various hormones, cytokines, and chemokines, which together exert important roles in homeostasis and also in thyroid hormone regulation. The adipokine leptin seems to be the most promising link between body weight and TSH levels since leptin stimulates the hypothalamic–pituitary–thyroid axis.

More at link: http://www.endocrine-abstracts.org/ea/0029/ea0029S59.1.htm

acptulsa
08-13-2017, 11:41 AM
Interesting. T3 is not the hormone the body needs, but it's the necessary building block--it reacts with iodine to create T4.

VIDEODROME
08-13-2017, 03:58 PM
I'm working as a long haul truck driver and its hard to lose weight driving most of the day. Hoping I can find another job and quit trucking.

UWDude
08-13-2017, 08:10 PM
While the average fat girl isn't my cup of tea, I find willfully ignorant, slow-witted, delusional douchnozzels to be far... far worse.

Just sayin'.

Hey, you can just outright call me a willfully ignorant, slow-witted, delusional douchnozzel. It will hurt my feelings just the same. I mean, clearly, I came here to earn the adoration of the likes of you.



These thyroid hormone alterations in obesity seem rather a consequence than a cause of obesity

Pretty obvious, isn't it?
It's like Type II diabetes. Obviously the product of a poor diet and lack of exercise.


I'm working as a long haul truck driver and its hard to lose weight driving most of the day. Hoping I can find another job and quit trucking.

That would suck. Gotta eat and drink just to stay entertained.

acptulsa
08-13-2017, 08:35 PM
Pretty obvious, isn't it?
It's like Type II diabetes. Obviously the product of a poor diet and lack of exercise.

You read one sentence which is careful to draw no conclusions at all, and blithely overturn ninety years of medical practice. And do it all with no degree, no idea what these enzymes look like through a microscope, and without ever meeting anyone with a hypoactive thyroid. Indeed, while still unclear on the difference between hyperthyroidism and hypothyroidism.

You are still a liberal. You're still arrogant enough to believe every random thought that pops up half formed in your head is more brilliant than nearly a century of real, hard-won experience, just like the most reckless progressive.


A liberal is a fellow who prefers his own way of doing things over generations who he knows know better than he does.

And you wonder why you get called names. If you don't like it, you could always rejoin your kind at DU.

UWDude
08-13-2017, 08:41 PM
And you wonder why you get called names.
No I don't.

If you don't like it,
I always consider the source.

You and Ender and Wooden Indian and Revolution 3-0... pffaw. Caw all you want, old crows. I *really* don't care.

Do you notice, I never care what you say about me, I just hate your guys' dishonesty and straw-men? I wish you would just outright say how you felt about issues, instead of trying cheeseball persuasive rhetoric which dances around your true opinions, lying, and of course, all four of you trolls' favorite tactic, the strawman.

acptulsa
08-13-2017, 08:44 PM
Hardly surprising. Progs seldom do care how foolish they look.

Schifference
08-13-2017, 08:45 PM
I would think that for optimum health if a person's metabolism has slowed down for any reason, they should consume less calories.

I think there is no better cure for the human body than proper eating and a healthy weight.

Anything that we deem as important can be achieved.

UWDude
08-13-2017, 08:46 PM
Hardly surprising. Progs seldom do care how foolish they look.
Oh noes!!! Please stop!! I am literally shaking now.

UWDude
08-13-2017, 08:47 PM
I would think that for optimum health if a person's metabolism has slowed down for any reason, they should consume less calories.

I think there is no better cure for the human body than proper eating and a healthy weight.


Sleep and exercise are good too.
I mean, you can walk to the Burger King instead of driving. It is only a half mile.

acptulsa
08-13-2017, 09:21 PM
Oh noes!!! Please stop!! I am literally shaking now.

You have Parkinson's. Change your diet and you'll be fine. Cures everything, even bullet wounds. Try walking somewhere besides Burger King next time.

No charge for the unlicensed diagnosis.

Ender
08-13-2017, 09:44 PM
No I don't.

I always consider the source.

You and Ender and Wooden Indian and Revolution 3-0... pffaw. Caw all you want, old crows. I *really* don't care.

Do you notice, I never care what you say about me, I just hate your guys' dishonesty and straw-men? I wish you would just outright say how you felt about issues, instead of trying cheeseball persuasive rhetoric which dances around your true opinions, lying, and of course, all four of you trolls' favorite tactic, the strawman.

Old crow? I'm probably half your age. :p

Plus, it's pretty obvious you know NOTHING about health.

AND why don't you stop the name calling? After all, people always call others what they are themselves. :cool:

Schifference
08-14-2017, 05:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAt24Hsap80