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rpfocus
08-08-2017, 02:24 PM
Ron Paul: Trump ‘racing towards disastrous war’ with Iran or N.Korea
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Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump issued an extraordinary ultimatum to North Korea on Tuesday warning Pyongyang not to make any more threats against the United States or they will "face fire and fury like the world has never seen," during a photo op at the Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey.

"North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States. They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen... he has been very threatening beyond a normal state. They will be met with fire, fury and frankly power the likes of which this world has never seen before," he said.
Trump's harsh words come as US intelligence analysts have assessed that North Korea has produced a miniaturized nuclear warhead, according to multiple sources familiar with the analysis of North Korea's missile and nuclear program.
It is not believed that the capability has been tested, according to the sources.
This is not a consensus view from the entire intelligence community, one US official said. The Washington Post, which was first to publish details, reported that it was the analysis of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

The US official familiar with the analysis of North Korea's missile and nuclear program says, in reference to North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un's boasts about the program, "we have to take him at his word and we need to be prepared to deal with it."
This official said the 'assessment" is continuing to be refined and updated as more intelligence is collected.
The officials all note that the evidence shows North Korea is making progress and the question is more about when not if North Korea is capable of launching a nuclear capable missile.

Referring to Kim Jong Un, the official said this report needs to be taken seriously as "we've seen him moving forward" on the program with no indication he is turning back.

US military commanders have long planned on the assumption that North Korea has a warhead.
In 2014, then-commander of US Forces Korea Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti said he believed that they had the capability to miniaturize a warhead.
"I believe they have the capability to have miniaturized a device at this point, and they have the technology to potentially actually deliver what they say they have," Scaparrotti said at the time. The Washington Post first reported details of the assessment on Tuesday just hours after North Korea threatened 'physical action' in response to punitive sanctions unanimously passed by the United Nations Security Council over the weekend.

CNN has previously reported that US intelligence estimates Pyongyang may have the capacity to deliver a nuclear weapon to the US mainland by early next year and its missile program showed significant progress during two intercontinental ballistic missile tests in July.
"Assuming everything is true, including that intelligence assessment both existing and everything being accurate, there are still important unknowns," Republican Rep. Lee Zeldin told CNN's Wolf Blitzer, noting that questions still linger about whether a possible North Korean warhead could survive re-entry from the earth's upper atmosphere.
However, Zeldin also said that reporting of the development "increases the urgency of the time sensitivity" of efforts being taken by the US and its international partners to address North Korea's missile and nuclear programs diplomatically.

Earlier on Tuesday, President Trump was quick to highlight his administration's success in leading the UN Security Council to unanimously pass sanctions on North Korea. "After many years of failure,countries are coming together to finally address the dangers posed by North Korea. We must be tough & decisive!" Trump wrote in a tweet on Tuesday morning. But reports that North Korea has taken another big step forward in realizing its nuclear ambitions will likely only escalate an already tense situation after the latest chapter of rhetorical chest-thumping.
US Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley called newly approved sanctions on North Korea "a gut punch" and warned of possible military action should the regime continue its aggressive actions.

Those military options include launching a "preventative war" against North Korea, according to White House national security adviser H.R. McMaster.
"If they had nuclear weapons that can threaten the United States, it's intolerable from the President's perspective. Of course, we have to provide all options to do that, and that includes a military option," McMaster said in an interview with MSNBC on Saturday.
North Korean Foreign Minister Ri Yong Ho said Pyongyang "will, under no circumstances, put the nukes and ballistic rockets on the negotiating table," and would "teach the US a severe lesson" if it used military force against North Korea.

North Korea was estimated to have between 13 and 30 nuclear weapons at the end of 2016, according to the Institute for Science and International Security -- noting that North Korea keeps secret the number of nuclear weapons that it has built, and there is little, if any, reliable public information about this value.


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rpfocus
08-08-2017, 05:57 PM
And North Korea's response:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/08/politics/north-korea-considering-guam-strike-trump/index.html

Another war on the way. Is anyone surprised?

timosman
08-08-2017, 06:19 PM
They even dug up Barbara Starr from the basement:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX7pK53PD2g

Dr.3D
08-08-2017, 06:48 PM
And North Korea's response:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/08/politics/north-korea-considering-guam-strike-trump/index.html

Another war on the way. Is anyone surprised?
From the article:

This was before Trump's warning to North Korea on Tuesday.

Guess it wasn't a response after all.

rpfocus
08-08-2017, 07:44 PM
From the article:


Guess it wasn't a response after all.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/08/08/north-korea-considering-firing-missiles-at-guam-per-state-media.html

From this article:

"North Korea is seriously considering a plan to fire missiles at Guam, state media said Wednesday, hours after President Trump responded to reports of nuclear threats by saying the regime "will be met with fire, fury and frankly power, the likes of which the world has never seen before.""

4D Chess or another Bush style blunder? I bet on the latter.

nikcers
08-08-2017, 08:49 PM
Is there some sort of cold war dead man switch they can trigger now? Someone once told me there were mechanical instruments in place that would trigger MAD, something about the soviets not being able to detect an incoming ICBM and almost triggering war as a result and Russia not being able to fund a system that could.

This makes sense in that they could trigger an enormous conflict with a cheap investment, and the world would be forced to let them come to the table and trade with the world.

goldenequity
08-08-2017, 11:36 PM
(after millions are incinerated)
This is the guy that will look you straight in the eye and say 'There was no other option.'
I've never seen such a dead soul.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQhHxJpT1dQ

Raginfridus
08-09-2017, 01:09 AM
Meanwhile, In A Not So Distant Tomorrow...

Millions of North Koreans have no food, no shelter, and no medicine. Fearing the ROK and USA, thousands flee to Manchuria, only to burden the Chinese with a refugee crisis unparalleled for the region. Native Manchurians are wroth for Beijing dumping the refugees upon them, knowing full well that the millions of serfs pouring into their communities will drive wages down. China demands the ROK and United States take full responsibility for the crisis, sense they resumed the war and now occupy the territory of North Korea. The ROK offer token assistance, but they do not want to distract from their kangaroo trials. At the same time, the US are too busy looking for nukes that never existed. China decides Russia could help, but the US won't suffer Russian cooperation. On the other hand, ever ignorant of history, the US do suggest China and the ROK cooperate with Japan for a solution. China is uncharacteristically outraged, and the ROK tell us to stay - but we can go to Hell. No nukes. No WMD. No Longdong missiles. Only yet another nation strangled by sanctions, annihilated by our godless legions, and another region's survival imperiled.

*That's just one scenario, another includes the DPRK firing all their guns and rockets at Japan and Seoul, pulling Japan into the "war", enraging the Koreans and Chinese at the presence of their ancestral nemesis, and China entering the war they would otherwise not have given a damn about. After all, they and the ROK have been economically cozy for a decade, and the North have been nothing but a (coal rich) tumor for them. Coal the ROK could probably supply more efficiently. There's so much shit going on in that region, I don't for a second believe war can help us, but I think we all know the die is cast.

bunklocoempire
08-09-2017, 11:00 AM
Mini nukes so small, you can't even see them.

I bet the N Korean children keep the warheads in their little pockets. Better put the squeeze on the little tykes.

timosman
08-09-2017, 11:08 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWZbrwb1mLQ

Mike4Freedom
08-09-2017, 02:24 PM
Why would North Korea waste a nuke on Guam. If they just send enough troops there, the island will tip over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7XXVLKWd3Q

Raginfridus
08-09-2017, 03:19 PM
Why would North Korea waste a nuke on Guam. If they just send enough troops there, the island will tip over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7XXVLKWd3Q
Gold :D

Maybe Kim has seen The Adventures of Baron Munchausen and he fears Guam could be leviathan. Better to nuke it just in case.

rpfocus
08-09-2017, 06:40 PM
Why would North Korea waste a nuke on Guam. If they just send enough troops there, the island will tip over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7XXVLKWd3Q

Wow, that's real? Too funny. Love the response: "We don't anticipate that."

unknown
08-09-2017, 06:49 PM
The more things "change", the more...

goldenequity
08-10-2017, 02:31 PM
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goldenequity
08-10-2017, 10:43 PM
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