CIA and FBI Begging Trump To Not Release JFK Files

[AuH20]

Per Stone. 7:14 Mark.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqlTz8H1QaQ

[TheCount]

Sounds legit.

[juleswin]

Just the at point I was about to believe the whole story and then I noticed inforwar is the source. Remember, infowars is the news outfit that reported that the Russians launch/would launch a nuclear war heads towards the US during Y2K. He was anti Putin before Maxine Waters was in congress. Yes, not CNN, not the NT times, it was infowars/Alex Jones.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UebEM8daL-0

These people are complete FAKE news.

[Zippyjuan]

Just the at point I was about to believe the whole story and then I noticed inforwar is the source. Remember, infowars is the news outfit that reported that the Russians launch/would launch a nuclear war heads towards the US during Y2K. He was anti Putin before Maxine Waters was in congress. Yes, not CNN, not the NT times, it was infowars/Alex Jones.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UebEM8daL-0

These people are complete FAKE news.

They also said there is a secret pedophile colony on Mars.

"I am a performance artist playing a character."- Alex Jones. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/infowars-alex-jones-performance-artist-playing-character-lawyer-conspiracy-theory-donald-trump-a7687571.html

[dannno]

Just the at point I was about to believe the whole story and then I noticed inforwar is the source. Remember, infowars is the news outfit that reported that the Russians launch/would launch a nuclear war heads towards the US during Y2K. He was anti Putin before Maxine Waters was in congress. Yes, not CNN, not the NT times, it was infowars/Alex Jones.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UebEM8daL-0

These people are complete FAKE news.

-rep because you lied, the source is not infowars, it is Roger Stone.

[Zippyjuan]

-rep because you lied, the source is not infowars, it is Roger Stone.

That isn't InfoWar's logo in the corner? That isn't Alex Jones hosting the discussion?

[dannno]

That isn't InfoWar's logo in the corner? That isn't Alex Jones hosting the discussion?

The SOURCE is Roger Stone. Infowars is the journalist entity reporting the source, who AGAIN, is Roger Stone.

This is like the 30th time I've had this argument with you in the last ten years, and this is why your bars are red. You have all of this pent up establishment bullshit filled up in your head, but you can't fucking remember that infowars reports sources that aren't themselves after being told dozens of times? It's fucking retarded to have the same stupid discussions day after day. I'm sick of the bullshit. Every argument I have with you is the same one I've had at least ten times before.

May your rep bar be red forever.

[Zippyjuan]

The SOURCE is Roger Stone. Infowars is the journalist entity reporting the source, who AGAIN, is Roger Stone.

This is like the 30th time I've had this argument with you in the last ten years, and this is why your bars are red. You have all of this pent up establishment bull$#@! filled up in your head, but you can't $#@!ing remember that infowars reports sources that aren't themselves after being told dozens of times? It's $#@!ing retarded to have the same stupid discussions day after day. I'm sick of the bull$#@!. Every argument I have with you is the same one I've had at least ten times before.

May your rep bar be red forever.

So a media outlet has no responsibility for its content. CNN isn't fake news because they are only reporting what others are saying. Thank you. I will remember that the next time you call for "fake news".

That would also make me not responsible for what people say in things I quote in posts since I am not the one who said them therefore I should have a million green bars.

[specsaregood]

So a media outlet has no responsibility for its content. CNN isn't fake news because they are only reporting what others are saying. Thank you. I will remember that the next time you call for "fake news".

That would also make me not responsible for what people say in things I quote in posts since I am not the one who said them therefore I should have a million green bars.

that was a great rebuttal.

[dannno]

Just the at point I was about to believe the whole story and then I noticed inforwar is the source..


They also said there is a secret pedophile colony on Mars.

"I am a performance artist playing a character."- Alex Jones. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/infowars-alex-jones-performance-artist-playing-character-lawyer-conspiracy-theory-donald-trump-a7687571.html

...


So a media outlet has no responsibility for its content. CNN isn't fake news because they are only reporting what others are saying. Thank you. I will remember that the next time you call for "fake news".

You responded to jules quote that infowars was the source and added on your own information, rather than correcting them about their misrepresentation, then went on to disparage the news outlet that was reporting the source.

Then when I called you out on it, you defended it again.



That isn't InfoWar's logo in the corner? That isn't Alex Jones hosting the discussion?


And like I said, we have had this discussion many times before, specifically when you come in and start disparaging infowars and saying infowars was the source of something that runs counter to the establishment narrative, when infowars is merely reporting a source who you don't even mention.

CNN is run by the CIA, they manufacture a narrative that helps Democrats, cultural marxists and socialists.

Infowars reports the truth to the best of their ability in order to fight the establishment narrative that is helping Democrats, cultural marxists and socialists.

[Zippyjuan]

Infowars reports the truth to the best of their ability in order to fight the establishment narrative that is helping Democrats, cultural marxists and socialists.

Well, if that is the best they can do.....

[dannno]

Well, if that is the best they can do.....

Better than you.

[Zippyjuan]

Better than you.

Meh-I was just quoting somebody else. Not my fault.

[juleswin]

So a media outlet has no responsibility for its content. CNN isn't fake news because they are only reporting what others are saying. Thank you. I will remember that the next time you call for "fake news".

That would also make me not responsible for what people say in things I quote in posts since I am not the one who said them therefore I should have a million green bars.

Fantastic reply, I wonder what the fraud would say now. And yes, danno is a big fat, stupid fraud. He would believe anything just as long his sugar daddy Stefan or Alex Jones says so.

[jllundqu]

...

Infowars reports the truth to the best of their ability in order to fight the establishment narrative that is helping Democrats, cultural marxists and socialists.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWd6XgBVIcg

[juleswin]

-rep because you lied, the source is not infowars, it is Roger Stone.

Ouch, that really hurt. If you were to ever give me a +rep that would be a signal that I am saying something wrong. That is what I think of your rep. I hope that -rep made you feel better :)

[jllundqu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JRLCBb7qK8

[dannno]

Fantastic reply, I wonder what the fraud would say now. And yes, @dann (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=19002)o is a big fat, stupid fraud. He would believe anything just as long his sugar daddy Stefan or Alex Jones says so.

So you think it is ok to come to a liberty forum and promote articles that promote the Democrat party, cultural marxism and socialism without rebuttal?

But hey, the CIA who shot Kennedy and are also trying to implement socialism and cultural marxism, no they couldn't possibly be asking Trump not to release the JFK files.. and you think it is a good idea to make fun of people who make those claims?

[phill4paul]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JRLCBb7qK8

Bwahahaha! Wish I could +rep. That's some funny shit.

[jllundqu]

dannno I found your theme song. In the spirit of "Trump can do no wrong and this is all part of Trump's grandmaster plan"... I present to you...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUEeAzl9Weo

[jllundqu]

For the record, I would love it if Trump released the JFK files. Hope this is true. :)

[Zippyjuan]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/24/cia-fbi-release-new-material-on-kennedy-assassination-investigation.html


CIA, FBI release new material on Kennedy assassination investigation

The National Archives on Monday made public over 400 previously unreleased documents related to the CIA and FBI's investigation of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

Among the 441 materials released include 17 audio files of interviews of Yuri Nosenko, a KGB officer who defected to the United States in January 1964. Nosenko claimed to be the officer in charge of the KGB file on Lee Harvey Oswald during Oswald's time in the Soviet Union.

Other documents released include items related to the probe of Martin Luther King Jr.'s assassination who was murdered five years after President Kennedy was killed, in 1968.

A 1992 law requires that the National Archives to preserve the approximately 5 million pages of records surrounding the investigation. Most of the records have been available to the public since the late 1990s.

[Zippyjuan]

http://time.com/4606082/jfk-assassination-secrets/

The remaining documents are scheduled to be released this fall- unless Trump decides not to release them.


25th JFK Assassination Secrets Scheduled for 2017 Release


The tortured path that began with a left turn onto Dealey Plaza on Nov. 22, 1963, will find its unlikely end point this October in College Park, Md. At a National Archives annex, the last remaining documents related to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy are being processed, scanned and readied for release.

For those who believe that the clues to who killed JFK are hidden somewhere deep inside the government's files, this may be the last chance to find the missing pieces. Under the terms of the 1992 JFK Records Act--a result of Oliver Stone's 1991 movie JFK, which revived fascination with the idea of a cover-up--the government was given 25 years to make public all related files. The time is up on Oct. 26, 2017. About 3,000 never-before-seen documents, along with 34,000 previously redacted files, are scheduled for release.

The files--many of which trace back to the House Select Committee on Assassinations from the 1970s--promise to be less about second shooters and grassy knolls and more about what the government, particularly the CIA, might have known about assassin Lee Harvey Oswald before Kennedy's death. (The CIA declined to comment for this story, and the FBI did not respond to a request.) Already, the law has helped fill out one of the most significant periods of the 20th century, revealing information on military plots to invade Cuba; Kennedy's plans to execute a withdrawal of U.S. forces from Vietnam; and the formation of the Warren Commission, which investigated the assassination.

According to the National Archives, the final batch includes information on the CIA's station in Mexico City, where Oswald showed up weeks before JFK's death; 400 pages on E. Howard Hunt, the Watergate burglary conspirator who said on his deathbed that he had prior knowledge of the assassination; and testimony from the CIA's James Angleton, who oversaw intelligence on Oswald. The documents could also provide information on a CIA officer named George Joannides, who directed financial dealings with an anti-Castro group whose members had a public fight with Oswald on the streets of New Orleans in the summer of 1963.

"The records that are out there are going to fill out this picture," says Jefferson Morley, an author who's spent decades researching the assassination.

But Martha Murphy, who oversees the effort at the National Archives, warns that many of the documents may be of little value. She believes that any potentially revelatory information, like Oswald's CIA file, has already been released--albeit with redactions (that text will be restored for the new release). Most of the trove was deemed "not believed relevant" by the independent Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB) in the 1990s. Still, John Tunheim, who chaired the ARRB, says "something that was completely irrelevant in 1998 may look more tantalizing today."

For curious observers, even irrelevant documents are better than nothing--and nothing is still a possibility. The law says that if an agency doesn't want certain files made public, it can appeal to the President, who could decide to hold them back after all. That has prompted almost two dozen authors, academics and former ARRB members to write to the White House counsel urging that all documents be released."We're at the final chapter of JFK disclosure," Morley says. "Sometimes I think we're going to win. Sometimes I think it's a fool's errand. But we're going to find out."

[juleswin]

So you think it is ok to come to a liberty forum and promote articles that promote the Democrat party, cultural marxism and socialism without rebuttal?

But hey, the CIA who shot Kennedy and are also trying to implement socialism and cultural marxism, no they couldn't possibly be asking Trump not to release the JFK files.. and you think it is a good idea to make fun of people who make those claims?

I don't think you know what cultural marxism is or socialism for that matter or that Trump is a long time promoter and early practitioner of the latter. I think maybe you know what democrat party is cos that is a group of people with D in front of their names.

I laugh at infowars because they are fake news that is funny to talk about. Half of the things they put out are outright lies or half truth. The fact that you with your 120+ IQ can't see this worries me.

[Zippyjuan]

It is an entertainment show- but not all viewers get the jokes.

[timosman]

It is an entertainment show- but not all viewers get the jokes.

Zippy's working hard towards having green bars again.:rolleyes:

[phill4paul]

Zippy's working hard towards having green bars again.:rolleyes:

Is your pogram not working as intended? :cool:

[dannno]

Is your pogram not working as intended? :cool:

Is your program not working as intended?

[phill4paul]

Is your program not working as intended?

I see you took the offending exclamation from your sig. line. Glad you took my advise and read the site rules.

[Zippyjuan]

Is your program not working as intended?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCcdr4O-3gE

[juleswin]

Zippy's working hard towards having green bars again.:rolleyes:

You only have Danno to thank for it. Zippy is evil but at least he is not retarded. He is an evil genius and he surgically cut danno a new a**hole in this thread that he earned my respect for it.

[dannno]

I see you took the offending exclamation from your sig. line. Glad you took my advise and read the site rules.

Incorrect.

[dannno]

You only have Danno to thank for it. Zippy is evil but at least he is not retarded. He is an evil genius and he surgically cut danno a new a**hole in this thread that he earned my respect for it.

....by defending CNN.. Ya, somebody ripped me a new asshole by defending CNN. Wow.

[juleswin]

....by defending CNN.. Ya, somebody ripped me a new $#@! by defending CNN. Wow.

He used the same defense you used to defend fake news outlet infowars. He was trying to illustrate to you how dumb your defense of infowars is and you still don't get it. Come on Dannno, you are not helping your case here.

[dannno]

He used the same defense you used to defend fake news outlet infowars. He was trying to illustrate to you how dumb your defense of infowars is and you still don't get it. Come on Dannno, you are not helping your case here.

Hah, no, YOU don't get it.

[phill4paul]

Incorrect.

Oh, a mod had to do it. :cool: I wonder why they would have done that?

[dannno]

Oh, a mod had to do it. :cool: I wonder why they would have done that?

Because of the incessant whining from the Captain Save a Zippy's on this site, and then the lewd and disparaging comment about me in your sig finally put it over the top.

I wonder why they didn't remove it three or four months earlier?

[Zippyjuan]

Because of the incessant whining from the Captain Save a Zippy's on this site, and then the lewd and disparaging comment about me in your sig finally put it over the top.

I wonder why they didn't remove it three or four months earlier?

I thought it was because I did something you requested.

[dannno]

I thought it was because I did something you requested.

You, in no way shape or form, did what I requested.

[phill4paul]

Because of the incessant whining from the Captain Save a Zippy's on this site, and then the lewd and disparaging comment about me in your sig finally put it over the top.

I wonder why they didn't remove it three or four months earlier?

Probably because the mods don't have time to read every sig and you just happened to make such a belligerent stink it got noticed by a member. Then that member put an equally offensive sig line with your name in it and the mods decided enough was enough.

[Zippyjuan]

You, in no way shape or form, did what I requested.

Then I retract my retraction. Donald Trump IS George Sorros propaganda. (or is that Fox News is Sorros propaganda since they were doing the interview?)

(For those who may have forgotten or missed, I had posted a video of an interview with Donald Trump and had no comments of my own attached and Dannno said I was somehow promoting George Sorros propaganda and he would alter his sig which included a comment about me being a Sorros supporter if I was to disavow it). http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?508997-Trump-Campaign-Promise-Fulfilled-Killing-lots-of-families/page6&highlight=zippyjuan+disavow

The next time I saw Dannno's sig, the comment had been removed.

[dannno]

Then I retract my retraction. Donald Trump IS George Sorros propaganda.

(For those who may have forgotten or missed, I had posted a video of an interview with Donald Trump and had no comments of my own attached and Dannno said I was somehow promoting George Sorros propaganda and he would alter his sig which included a comment about me being a Sorros supporter if I was to disavow it). http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?508997-Trump-Campaign-Promise-Fulfilled-Killing-lots-of-families/page6&highlight=zippyjuan+disavow

The next time I saw Dannno's sig, the comment had been removed.

That is even more fake news.

You actually asked me several times, including in a PM to remove your name from my sig and I refused. Then phill wrote some lewd and disparaging comments about yours truly in his sig and the mods removed both, presumably because they were getting as much whining in their boxes as I was and there was that lewd sig line showing up in almost every thread.

[Zippyjuan]

That is even more fake news.

You actually asked me several times, including in a PM to remove your name from my sig and I refused. Then phill wrote some lewd and disparaging comments about yours truly in his sig and the mods removed both, presumably because they were getting as much whining in their boxes as I was and there was that lewd sig line showing up in almost every thread.

Checking my "Sent messages" and "In Box" I see no PMs either to or from you. Perhaps it was somebody else? Sigs should not include negative things about any member.

[dannno]

Checking my "Sent messages" and "In Box" I see no PMs either to or from you. Perhaps it was somebody else?


Perhaps it was "somebody else". I never bought into the multiple people logging into zippy's account conspiracy theory before, but maybe there is something to it.

I have the PM in my inbox still, I am posting it here without the content due to posting PMs being against forum guidelines (IIRC). I hope you aren't trying to trick me into breaking the forum guidelines.



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[Zippyjuan]

Perhaps it was "somebody else". I never bought into the multiple people logging into zippy's account conspiracy theory before, but maybe there is something to it.

I have the PM in my inbox still, I am posting it here without the content due to posting PMs being against forum guidelines (IIRC). I hope you aren't trying to trick me into breaking the forum guidelines.



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Thanks. I somehow missed that. Since it was my message, let me post the content:


Sig

I did what you asked. Your turn. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...families/page6

The relevant "fake news" discussion can be found here: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?512807-Why-Did-CPUd-Get-a-Temp-Ban/page4&highlight=zippyjuan+disavow

[r3volution 3.0]

Per Stone

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/The_Seraphym/Forum%20Images/NuffSaid-BernieMacOceans13_zpsf12237a7.png

[Zippyjuan]

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/The_Seraphym/Forum%20Images/NuffSaid-BernieMacOceans13_zpsf12237a7.png

Stone was Nixon's "Dirty Tricks" expert. Even has Nixon tattooed on his back. Alllegedly behind such campaigns as the "Willie Horton" ads, "LBJ had Kennedy Killed". "Webster Hubbel is Chelsea Clinton's Dad". "Ted Cruz's dad was CIA Operative with Lee Harvey Oswald." Claimed to be poisoned by the "Deep State" just before his latest book "The Making of the President 2016" was to be released.

http://www.motherjones.com/wp-content/uploads/roger-stone-nixon630.jpg

[r3volution 3.0]

LBJ likely did have JFK killed, but, that aside, yes; Stone's a pure shill and conman.

[milgram]

You guys are missing one of the funnier parts of the clip.
Cumia was actually fired because he wrote drunken tweets about black crime after he was punched by a black streetwalker.

https://www.reddit.com/r/opieandanthony/comments/694o47/alex_jones_just_said_they_fired_anthony_from/

[AuH20]

Stone has consistently broke stories before they have become news. He has ears and eyes all over the political spectrum.

[anaconda]

CNN is run by the CIA, they manufacture a narrative that helps Democrats, cultural marxists and socialists.


The latter two of which include The Republican establishment.

[Wooden Indian]

Fantastic reply, I wonder what the fraud would say now. And yes, danno is a big fat, stupid fraud. He would believe anything just as long his sugar daddy Stefan or Alex Jones says so.

Gotcha, Jules. +rep

[r3volution 3.0]

Stone has consistently broke stories before they have become news. He has ears and eyes all over the political spectrum.

panoptiCON

[AuH20]

Stone was Nixon's "Dirty Tricks" expert. Even has Nixon tattooed on his back. Alllegedly behind such campaigns as the "Willie Horton" ads, "LBJ had Kennedy Killed". "Webster Hubbel is Chelsea Clinton's Dad". "Ted Cruz's dad was CIA Operative with Lee Harvey Oswald." Claimed to be poisoned by the "Deep State" just before his latest book "The Making of the President 2016" was to be released.

http://www.motherjones.com/wp-content/uploads/roger-stone-nixon630.jpg

Stone is the definition of a consummate insider who exposed both the Clinton and Bush cartels. People can hate Trump all they want but it is folly to underestimate a man who is the Little Finger of D.C. that knows all. Stone's character can be impugned, but his track record for accuracy is excellent. He broke the Priebus ouster a week earlier.

Furthermore, critics can rail on Jones all they want, but he is practically the lone sanctuary for scandalous information, given the duplicity of the corporate media. No one will risk their lives or livelihood with a fake news outlet when leaking information.

[Ender]

He used the same defense you used to defend fake news outlet infowars. He was trying to illustrate to you how dumb your defense of infowars is and you still don't get it. Come on Dannno, you are not helping your case here.

When I first became really active on the forum, anyone who posted from InfoWars was called a troll and an absolute dumb shit. Then Trump came along and suddenly InfoWars is the only real news to be trusted.

Go figure. :rolleyes:

[TheCount]

When I first became really active on the forum, anyone who posted from InfoWars was called a troll and an absolute dumb shit. Then Trump came along and suddenly InfoWars is the only real news to be trusted.

Go figure. :rolleyes:

The metric of truth now is group membership. It's tribalism in its purest form, which isn't all that surprising when collectivism is the predominant ideology of the alt-right and its adherents.

[acptulsa]

You only have Danno to thank for it. Zippy is evil but at least he is not retarded. He is an evil genius and he surgically cut danno a new a**hole in this thread that he earned my respect for it.

And dannno is retarded, and not an evil genius? Are you sure?

In the past decade, dannno has perfectly played the COINTEL role more times than you and I can count. During the big 9/11 discussions, he was constantly making the 'Truther' position look foolish by embracing and spamming the most ridiculous things possible--like drones with holographic wings hitting the Twin Towers when anyone with eyes could see they were real airliners, and acting like the passengers on those flights would actually be a consideration to the sort of monsters who would bring down skyscrapers full of people. Of course, he denies that now, but it happened, and it certainly took some of the sting out of the Truther contingent's logic and reason. In the lead up to the 2012 elections, when we were gaining real tractions with certain liberals, he was busy arguing daily that the statutory rape laws should be lowered to age 13 or 14, and generally making us all look misogynist for putting up with him and letting him hang around. During the primaries he adopted the 'Trump's not libertarian but he is anti-establishment' meme and pushed it daily, which has since morphed into him trying to convince the world that anyone who doubts the MSM is the sort which swallows Cernovich and Alex Jones hook line and sinker.

Each and every one of these things is just the sort of thing COINTEL was trying to accomplish--and dannno was here pushing it daily. And where are we at in this thread? dannno is providing Zippy with the perfect foil he needs to distract people from the possibility that we will get more information on the American Coup d'Etat, which is a crime of such magnitude that it could still generate a massive backlash against the CIA if only the smoking gun could be found which cuts through the public's denial, that last remaining doubt that many cling desperately to because they can't handle the truth. The thing could be massive, but dannno and Zippy are acting like it isn't even worth pausing in their silly bickering to discuss.

Yeah, the term 'useful idiot' could explain it all. But as Ian Fleming once wrote, once can be happenstance, and twice can be coincidence, but three times is enemy action. Well, in dannno's case, we're well past three times...

Of course, everyone gets to make up their own minds what the truth is. But consider this, as you peruse the denials which may or may not follow. Any real useful idiot is self-conscious and sensitive enough about being an idiot that they'd rather people believe anything else--even the possibility that they actually are COINTEL.

[Danke]

Fantastic reply, I wonder what the fraud would say now. And yes, @dann (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=19002)o is a big fat, stupid fraud. He would believe anything just as long his sugar daddy Stefan or Alex Jones says so.

Just donated to Stefan and Alex again.

[juleswin]

Just donated to Stefan and Alex again.

I try my best to expose these frauds not because I want to hurt you but because I care deeply for people on this site and hate to see them be taken for a ride. Take it from a man who came from a country where scamming people is a national pastime, I can spot these people and Alex Jones and Stefan are fraudster.

[Danke]

I try my best to expose these frauds not because I want to hurt you but because I care deeply for people on this site and hate to see them be taken for a ride. Take it from a man who came from a country where scamming people is a national pastime, I can spot these people and Alex Jones and Stefan are fraudster.

I don't think they are frauds. They may exaggerate, and get thinks wrong occasionally, but on the whole, I think they are a net plus for liberty. They cover news that the MSM won't touch. Perhaps a better source is Mike Rivero ( https://www.youtube.com/user/hard2startyubetube) But he gets it wrong occasionally too. Nobody is perfect. In fact, I still think you are genuine, a black nurse in Nebraska from Nigeria...that stumbled upon a Ron Paul liberty forum...