Why Robert Mueller’s appointment may have been illegal

[Swordsmyth]

Here are his three main arguments:
1.) Lack of oversight
If Attorney General Jeff Sessions has recused himself and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein has, for all intents and purposes, done the same, who is Mueller reporting to? If the answer is nobody, Kmiec contends that the Constitution requires Senate confirmation, like any other executive branch appointee.
2.) Presumption of guilt
Kmiec believes Mueller’s appointment comes dangerously close to indicting President Trump, who technically cannot be indicted and has a right to be presumed innocent in the first place.
“The special counsel has not formally indicted Trump,” Kmiec writes. “But given Comey’s hair-trigger assumption that Trump was up to no good, and the way the special counsel process defines the president as a wrongdoer before any wrong is established, the investigation itself is arguably equivalent to an unconstitutional indictment.”


3.) Lack of “specific and credible” evidence to even open the investigation
Lawnews writes:

This one requires a little back story. In 1988, the U.S. Supreme Court took up a case in which Assistant Attorney General Ted Olson challenged the constitutionality of Independent Counsel Act. Ultimately, the court found it did not conflict with the separation of powers. However, the law expired in 1999, and the new regulations have never faced rigorous legal scrutiny, and if they did, they probably wouldn’t meet constitutional muster.
“Under the expired law, independent counsels were appointed by a special three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals, but only after the attorney general conducted a preliminary investigation based on ‘specific and credible’ information about alleged wrongdoing by the president,” Kmiec wrote. Kmiec contends that none of these careful steps exist in the current regulations, and “there are no signs that in the wake of Sessions’ recusal, a constitutionally sufficient process triggered the Mueller appointment.”

More at: http://www.bizpacreview.com/2017/07/28/top-legal-expert-explains-robert-muellers-appointment-may-illegal-first-place-518947

[goldenequity]

haha.. let's add 1 more: (thnx again to Wikileaks)

4.) Robert Mueller’s Role in Clinton Scheme to Sell 20 Percent of US Uranium to Russia
Special Counselor Mueller a Clinton Foundation “criminal fixer” in Uranium One scam? (https://www.infowars.com/robert-muellers-role-in-clinton-scheme-to-sell-20-percent-of-us-uranium-to-russia/)


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WASHINGTON, D.C. – On May 17, the day Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein
appointed former FBI Director Robert Mueller as Special Counsel
charged with investigating possible “Russian collusion” with President Trump’s campaign,
Julian Assange at WikiLeaks tweeted a WikiLeaks released State Department cable
documenting that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton ordered Mueller
to deliver a sample of stolen Highly Enriched Uranium (HEU) to Russia in 2009.

[AuH20]

This is the hatchet man who they will deploy at the most opportunistic time.

[samforpaul]

This is the hatchet man who they will deploy at the most opportunistic time.


I don't get what you're saying here.

[Zippyjuan]

2.) Presumption of guilt

The purpose of any investigation is to see if there is any guilt or not.

[Swordsmyth]

I don't get what you're saying here.
I think he believes that Dump his going to use this legal expert and his arguments as an "ACE in the hole" after letting the Demoncrats waste their time and energy on Russiagate.

[Swordsmyth]

The purpose of any investigation is to see if there is any guilt or not.
And this "investigation" is not looking to see if there is NOT guilt.

[Zippyjuan]

And this "investigation" is not looking to see if there is NOT guilt.


Robert Mueller III was appointed Wednesday as special counsel to oversee the federal investigation into Russia’s alleged interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, giving him wide latitude to explore potential collusion between the Trump campaign and Moscow.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/former-fbi-director-robert-mueller-named-special-counsel-for-russia-probe-1495058494

[Swordsmyth]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/former-fbi-director-robert-mueller-named-special-counsel-for-russia-probe-1495058494
They couldn't find anything so now they are expanding their scope. They refuse to find out that he is NOT guilty, they will just keep looking till they find SOMETHING, ANYTHING, or until they are stopped.

[TheCount]

They couldn't find anything so now they are expanding their scope.Or they are expanding their scope because they found something.

Which of these two theories best explains Trump's increasingly apparent desperation to end the investigation?

[Swordsmyth]

Or they are expanding their scope because they found something.

Which of these two theories best explains Trump's increasingly apparent desperation to end the investigation?
He wants it to end because they are using it to interfere with his agenda, and because he doesn't want dozens of political enemies looking for ways to distort a "crime" out of nothing.

[TheCount]

He wants it to end because they are using it to interfere with his agenda, and because he doesn't want dozens of political enemies looking for ways to distort a "crime" out of nothing.We'll see.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Or they are expanding their scope because they found something.




You can post what they found any year now.



https://i.imgflip.com/so5ya.jpg?a416952

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

We'll see.


So it wasn't okay to go after your Bill Clinton, but now you've done a reversal?

[Zippyjuan]

Whether it finds anything or not, the issue is a major problem for Trump. He fired Flynn and Comey over it and is threatening his Attorney General who was the first person in Congress who supported him during the campaign. And is is making focusing on any other issues more difficult.

[Swordsmyth]

Whether it finds anything or not, the issue is a major problem for Trump. He fired Flynn and Comey over it and is threatening his Attorney General who was the first person in Congress who supported him during the campaign. And is is making focusing on any other issues more difficult.
Which is exactly why the Demoncrats dreamed it up.

[Zippyjuan]

Which is exactly why the Demoncrats dreamed it up.

Republicans do the same thing. Clinton was constantly under investigation. They eventually found him guilty of lying about a blowjob. I don't think there was direct collusion between Trump and Putin but Putin did want Trump to win over Clinton and tried to sway opinions.

[Swordsmyth]

Republicans do the same thing. Clinton was constantly under investigation. They eventually found him guilty of lying about a blowjob. I don't think there was direct collusion between Trump and Putin but Putin did want Trump to win over Clinton and tried to sway opinions.
The Neo-Cons investigated slick willy to distract the public while his agenda went forward, they avoided the real scandals or brushed over them and declared them not important.

[Swordsmyth]

bump

[Swordsmyth]

Remember this?




The possible existence of a subversive American “deep state” has captivated the attention of political observers and supporters of President Trump for months, and for the first time, evidence has allegedly surfaced that casts a light on the shadowy operations of a group many claim is working to bring down the Presidency.

This information comes as President Trump is battling his worst week in Washington so far. In the past seven days, a constant stream of leaks and unsourced stories have sent the Trump White House into a tail-spin, and calls for his impeachment have grown.
On Wednesday night, just hours after the Dept. of Justice appointed a Special Prosecutor to handle the Trump/Russia probe, a series of screenshots began spreading around the Dark Web, a colloquial term for the portion of the Internet that is unlisted in search engines and requires special encrypted software to access. The Dark Web is known as the “Internet home” to those who wish to communicate anonymously and hacker groups like Anonymous.
An unidentified user going by “FreshCamel” posted on several Dark Web message boards Wednesday evening asking other users to help him make sense of communications he had intercepted on a messaging platform called Gliph, a secure messaging service that uses end-to-end encryption to prevent communications from being tracked back to those who sent them.
This individual did not provide much context regarding the source of these communications, but American users quickly put the pieces together.
On initial inspection, the screenshots (https://pastebin.com/bE0faQJU), which are printed in their entirety below, appear to be taken from a short, highly-coded conversation held between approximately 5 individuals in the United States intelligence community on Wednesday, May 17th from 2:31 pm to 3:15 pm.

Third Estate Newsgroup’s Contributing Editor Micah Bull made contact with “FreshCamel” late Wednesday night via an encrypted email service, and this individual confirmed that he had accessed the personal computer of an employee at the FBI sometime around April 24th. This access had been obtained through a falsified “phishing” email that installed spyware on this employee’s computer when opened. “FreshCamel” declined to identify this individual for the time being, but confirmed that he or she is a higher-level employee in the Bureau.
According to “FreshCamel,” this individual’s computer is used to join a secured chat channel on Gliph approximately four times per week for exactly 45 minutes each session. Activity has increased in recent days, “FreshCamel” confirmed. For weeks, “FreshCamel” casually monitored these chats without realizing what they were, but when a topic of discussion in Wednesday’s chat became a major news story in the United States just hours after the chat was closed, he decided to seek help.

The screenshots from Wednesday’s chat are printed below:
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These screenshots show a 45 minute chat on the afternoon of Wednesday, May 17. From 2:31 pm to 3:15 pm, 5 separate users sent a total of 20 messages. “FreshCamel” confirmed that there were a total of 13 users “present” in the chat room, but the users known as “Severus,” “Roger,” “Huck,” “Juules,” and “Dooku” are those who consistently speak the most in these daily chats.
The chat begins with mention of “RR” and Mueller, hours before Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein announced that former FBI Director Robert Mueller would be named as the Special Prosecutor handling the probe into the Trump campaign’s communications with Russia. The users admit that the news will “blindside” the White House.
Then, the topic of conversation turns to an individual referred to as “MF” and whether or not these users should work to “put [him] back in the news.” They eventually agree that an individual known as “S” will work to draft a “memo” somehow connecting “MF” to Turkey and the user known as “Huck” will use a secured connection with their “friends in New York.”
On Thursday, a major story broke that former Trump National Security Adviser Michael Flynn had accepted money from the Turkish government and then intervened on their behalf in U.S. military operations. Flynn and Trump associates have denied these reports, but Flynn remains the subject of an ongoing FBI investigation. The allusion to a “memo” also comes after news broke that former FBI Director James Comey wrote in a memo that President Trump directly asked him to end the investigation into Flynn.
The chat goes on to cover several other topics: including a “project” involving an individual who this groups refers to as “Limey,” a term for a British citizen. In recent months, a former British Member of Parliament named Louise Mensch has captivated the Internet with reports and leaks that are often proven as false or dubiously-sourced. Mensch’s reports often suggest that the FBI and “deep state” are close to indicting and arresting Flynn and several other Trump associates for espionage.
Third Estate Newsgroup suspects, but cannot confirm, that this mention of “Limey” refers to Mensch, and if true, would suggest that Mensch’s “sources” might be members of the intelligence community, but could be feeding her false information to support their own leaking and disinformation operations.
Third Estate Newsgroup is working to confirm the identify of the “tape” that these individuals delivered to someone referred to as “AEWP,” but has not had any success so far.
The conversation ends when the individual known as “Juules” comments that the media will have their hands full because “RM is happening tonight,” seemingly referring to the announced appointment of Robert Mueller just hours after this specific chat was closed.
“FreshCamel” told Third Estate Newsgroup that the conversations held by this group were often coded, and because he didn’t pay close attention to American politics, he didn’t realize that these individuals were discussing anything more than normal work responsibilities. Due to the nature of the messaging platform, he could not screenshot conversations after they had occurred, but confirmed that “MF” (Michael Flynn) and “Limey” (Louise Mensch) had been topics of conversation before.
“FreshCamel” is not currently aware of the identities or affiliations of the other members in the group, but suggested that they are all members of intelligence organizations. Third Estate Newsgroup has independently reviewed and verified these screenshots and other information provided by “FreshCamel.”
These screenshots might just be the first “proof” for Trump supporters who have decried the existence of a subversive “deep state” working to bring down Trump’s presidency for months. Somehow, the individuals present in this chat were aware of both the timing and identity of the Special Prosecutor before he was announced, and seemed to provide the information used in the stories about Flynn that surfaced on Thursday.
The references to other groups within this chat, such as “the company group” and the “grapevine”, suggest that this group is just one of many groups within the intelligence community that are conversing secretly about topics and operations related to the investigation into Donald Trump.
Third Estate Newsgroup remains in contact with “FreshCamel,” and will work to bring you more as we discover it.

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