The Intercept: U.S. Lawmakers Seek to Criminalize Support for BDS

[Suzanimal]

The criminalization of political speech and activism against Israel has become one of the gravest threats to free speech in the west. In France, activists have been arrested and prosecuted for wearing t-shirts advocating a boycott of Israel. The U.K. has enacted a series of measures designed to outlaw such activism. In the U.S., governors compete with one another over who can implement the most extreme regulations to bar businesses from participating in any boycotts aimed even at Israeli settlements, which the world regards as illegal. On U.S. campuses, punishment of pro-Palestinian students for expressing criticisms of Israel is so commonplace that the Center for Constitutional Rights refers to it as “the Palestine Exception” to free speech.

But now, a group of 43 Senators – 29 Republicans and 14 Democrats – want to implement a law that would make it a felony for Americans to support the international boycott against Israel, which was launched in protest of that country’s decades-old occupation of Palestine. The two primary sponsors of the bill are Democrat Ben Cardin of Maryland and Republican Rob Portman of Ohio. Perhaps the most shocking aspect is the punishment: anyone guilty of violating its prohibitions will face a minimum civil penalty of $250,000, and a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million and 20 years in prison.

The proposed measure, called the Israel Anti-Boycott Act (S. 720), was introduced by Cardin on March 23. The Jewish Telegraphic Agency reports that the bill “was drafted with the assistance of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee [AIPAC].” Indeed, AIPAC, in its 2017 Lobbying Agenda, identified passage of this bill as one of its top lobbying priorities for the year:

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The bill’s co-sponsors include the senior Democrat in Washington, Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, his New York colleague Kirsten Gillibrand, and several of the Senate’s more liberal members, such as Ron Wyden of Oregon, Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut and Maria Cantwell of Washington. Illustrating the bipartisanship that AIPAC typically summons, it also includes several of the most right-wing Senators such as Ted Cruz of Texas, Ben Sasse of Nebraska, and Marco Rubio of Florida.

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Last night, the ACLU posted a letter it sent to all members of the Senate urging them to oppose this bill. Warning that “proponents of the bill are seeking additional co-sponsors,” the civil liberties group explained that “it would punish individuals for no reason other than their political beliefs.” The letter detailed what makes this bill so particularly threatening to basic civic freedoms:

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https://israelpalestinenews.org/intercept-u-s-lawmakers-seek-criminalize-support-bds/

[Ender]

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[jkr]

#gottreason?


...the $inate does

[AZJoe]

THE COLLUSION OF US POLITICIANS WITH A FOREIGN POWER (ISRAEL) AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
U.S. Congress conspires with foreign power against Americans’ Free Speech (https://theintercept.com/2017/07/19/u-s-lawmakers-seek-to-criminally-outlaw-support-for-boycott-campaign-against-israel/)
(Israel: The Real Foreign Power Colluding in US Politics)


THE CRIMINALIZATION OF political speech and activism against Israel has become one of the gravest threats to free speech (https://theintercept.com/2016/02/16/greatest-threat-to-free-speech-in-the-west-criminalizing-activism-against-israeli-occupation/) in the West. In France, activists have been arrested and prosecuted (http://www.france24.com/en/20160120-france-boycott-israel-bds-law-free-speech-antisemitism) for wearing T-shirts advocating a boycott (https://theintercept.com/2015/10/27/criminalization-of-anti-israel-activism-escalates-this-time-in-the-land-of-the-charlie-hebdo-free-speech-march/) of Israel. The U.K. has enacted a series of measures (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/israel-boycott-local-councils-public-bodies-and-student-unions-to-be-banned-from-shunning-israeli-a6874006.html) designed to outlaw such activism. In the U.S., governors compete with one another (https://theintercept.com/2016/06/06/andrew-cuomo-and-other-democrats-launch-severe-attack-on-free-speech-to-protect-israel/) over who can implement the most extreme regulations to bar businesses from participating in any boycotts aimed even at Israeli settlements, which the world regards as illegal (https://www.un.org/press/en/2016/sc12657.doc.htm). On U.S. campuses, punishment of pro-Palestinian students for expressing criticisms of Israel is so commonplace (https://theintercept.com/2015/09/25/dianne-feinstein-husband-threaten-univ-calif-demanding-ban-excessive-israel-criticism/) that the Center for Constitutional Rights refers to it (https://ccrjustice.org/the-palestine-exception) as “the Palestine Exception” to free speech.

But now, a group of 43 senators — 29 Republicans and 14 Democrats — wants to implement a law that would make it a felony for Americans to support the international boycott against Israel, … Perhaps the most shocking aspect is the punishment: Anyone guilty of violating the prohibitions will face a minimum civil penalty of $250,000 and a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million and 20 years in prison. …

called the Israel Anti-Boycott Act (S. 720), was introduced by Cardin on March 23. … drafted (http://www.jta.org/2017/07/18/news-opinion/politics/aclu-urges-senators-to-oppose-bill-targeting-israel-boycotts#.WW56hI3d8rE.twitter) “ with the assistance of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee.” Indeed, AIPAC, in its 2017 … top lobbying priority (http://www.policyconference.org/pdf/aipac-pc2017-lobbying-agenda.pdf) …


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The bill’s co-sponsors include (https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/720/cosponsors) … Chuck Schumer … Kirsten Gillibrand … Ted Cruz …, Ben Sasse … Marco Rubio ... …

A similar measure (https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1697?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22Israel+Anti-Boycott+act%22%5D%7D&r=2) was introduced in the House … It has already amassed 234 co-sponsors: 63 Democrats and 174 Republicans. (https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1697/cosponsors?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22Israel+Anti-Boycott+act%22%5D%7D&r=2) …

The ACLU posted a letter (https://www.aclu.org/letter/aclu-letter-senate-opposing-israel-anti-boycott-act) it sent to all members of the Senate …


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THUS FAR, NOT a single member of Congress has joined the ACLU in denouncing this bill. … an effort to make it a felony for Americans to engage in activism that protests a foreign government’s actions …

some co-sponsors seemed not to have any idea what they co-sponsored — almost as though they reflexively sign whatever comes from AIPAC … Democratic Sen. Gary Peters of Michigan, for instance, seemed genuinely bewildered when told of the ACLU’s letter, saying, “What’s the Act? You’ll have to get back to me on that.” … Democratic Sen. Bob Menendez of New Jersey, who said: “I’d want to read it. … I’d really have to look at it.” Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., a co-sponsor, said she hadn’t seen the ACLU letter but would give it a look. “I certainly will take their position into consideration, just like I take everybody’s position into consideration,” she said. … Perhaps most stunning … primary sponsor of the bill, Democratic Sen. Benjamin Cardin, who seemed to have no idea what was in his bill, particularly insisting that it contains no criminal penalties. … “Violations would be subject to a minimum civil penalty of $250,000 and a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million and 20 years in prison.” … Josh Ruebner expertly detailed (https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/josh-ruebner/new-us-bill-would-punish-settlement-boycotters) … “the potential penalties for violating this bill are steep: a minimum $250,000 civil penalty and a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million and 20 years imprisonment, as stipulated in the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:50%20section:1705%20edition: prelim)).” … the bill’s text in Section 8(a) (https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/720/text), which provides that violators will be “fined in accordance with Section 206 of the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1705 (http://uscode.house.gov/quicksearch/get.plx?title=50&section=1705)),” to the penalty provisions of that law (http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:50%20section:1705%20edition: prelim)), which state:
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… THIS PERNICIOUS BILL highlights many vital yet typically ignored dynamics in Washington. … the very mention of the word “Israel” causes most members of both parties to quickly snap into line in a show of unanimity (http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.606183) that would make the regime of North Korea blush with envy. …


the free speech debate in the U.S. is incredibly selective and warped. Pundits and political officials love to crusade as free speech champions — when doing so involves defending mainstream ideas or attacking marginalized, powerless groups such as minority college students. But when it comes to one of the most systemic, powerful, and dangerous assaults on free speech in the U.S. and the West generally — the growing attempt to literally criminalize speech and activism aimed at the Israeli government’s occupation — these free speech warriors typically fall silent. …

AIPAC … one of the most powerful, and pernicious, lobbying forces in the country [authors bill] to turn [Americans] into felons for the crime of engaging in political activism in protest of a foreign nation’s government. …

How can one credibly inveigh against “authoritarianism” while sponsoring a bill that dictates to American citizens what political views they are and are not allowed to espouse under threat of criminal prosecution? …

[unknown]

WOW.

This is a new low, even for our Judas goat public servants.

[chudrockz]

What are those asshats gonna do next, throw me in jail for not buying Hebrew National hot dogs? Guess what, FUCK YOU Israel I'm sticking with Oscar Meyer.

[AZJoe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VIRbd2l6UA

[AZJoe]

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https://theconmom.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/free-speech-conditions-apply.jpg

[AZJoe]

From Mondoweiss (http://mondoweiss.net/2017/07/shockwaves-progressive-community/):

"This bill is the work of the Israel lobby. It was drafted by one of its lead groups, AIPAC– “one of the most powerful, and pernicious, lobbying forces in the country,” … American interest:


In what conceivable sense is it of benefit to Americans to turn them into felons for the crime of engaging in political activism in protest of a foreign nation’s government? …

Lastly, remember this story and the frank declaration of support for a foreign nation by legislators the next time you hear about the insidious influence of Russia in our politics. …

[AZJoe]

Dr. Paul:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTkXRjgBt8s

[r3volution 3.0]

Grotesque as it is, the bill appears to be fairly toothless. How could it be enforced? How would they prove that one's reason for not buying an Israeli product was political? The person doing the boycotting would have to pretty much admit it in public: could really only be enforced against outspoken activists, I would think. It's also quite likely to be struck down by the courts. Anyway, it'll be most enlightening to see who ends up supporting in in Congress, and how His Orangeness reacts should it come to his desk.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm5Je73bYOY

[shakey1]

43 Senators – 29 Republicans and 14 Democrats – want to implement a law that would make it a felony for Americans to support the international boycott against Israel, which was launched in protest of that country’s decades-old occupation of Palestine. The two primary sponsors of the bill are Democrat Ben Cardin of Maryland and Republican Rob Portman of Ohio. Perhaps the most shocking aspect is the punishment: anyone guilty of violating its prohibitions will face a minimum civil penalty of $250,000, and a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million and 20 years in prison.

enemies foreign and domestic:mad:

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[r3volution 3.0]

Complete list of supporters in Congress:





Sen. Cardin, Benjamin L. [D-MD]


03/23/2017




Sen. Portman, Rob [R-OH]*

03/23/2017



Sen. Nelson, Bill [D-FL]

03/27/2017



Sen. Rubio, Marco [R-FL]

03/27/2017



Sen. Menendez, Robert [D-NJ]

03/27/2017



Sen. Collins, Susan M. [R-ME]

03/27/2017



Sen. Blumenthal, Richard [D-CT]


03/27/2017



Sen. Graham, Lindsey [R-SC]


03/28/2017



Sen. Young, Todd C. [R-IN]

03/28/2017



Sen. Boozman, John [R-AR]

03/28/2017



Sen. Isakson, Johnny [R-GA]

03/28/2017



Sen. Peters, Gary C. [D-MI]

03/28/2017



Sen. Hatch, Orrin G. [R-UT]


03/30/2017



Sen. Perdue, David [R-GA]

03/30/2017



Sen. Roberts, Pat [R-KS]


03/30/2017



Sen. Wicker, Roger F. [R-MS]

03/30/2017



Sen. Hoeven, John [R-ND]

04/04/2017



Sen. Cornyn, John [R-TX]

04/04/2017



Sen. Fischer, Deb [R-NE]

04/04/2017



Sen. Heller, Dean [R-NV]

04/24/2017



Sen. Moran, Jerry [R-KS]


04/24/2017



Sen. Crapo, Mike [R-ID]

04/24/2017



Sen. Cantwell, Maria [D-WA]

04/24/2017



Sen. Grassley, Chuck [R-IA]

04/25/2017



Sen. Capito, Shelley Moore [R-WV]

04/26/2017



Sen. Schumer, Charles E. [D-NY]

05/01/2017



Sen. Ernst, Joni [R-IA]


05/01/2017



Sen. Hassan, Margaret Wood [D-NH]


05/08/2017



Sen. Gillibrand, Kirsten E. [D-NY]

05/09/2017



Sen. Lankford, James [R-OK]

05/16/2017



Sen. Burr, Richard [R-NC]

05/17/2017



Sen. Donnelly, Joe [D-IN]

05/23/2017



Sen. Scott, Tim [R-SC]

05/25/2017



Sen. Cruz, Ted [R-TX]

06/05/2017



Sen. Manchin, Joe, III [D-WV]


06/05/2017



Sen. Strange, Luther [R-AL]

06/05/2017



Sen. McCaskill, Claire [D-MO]

06/06/2017



Sen. Thune, John [R-SD]

06/12/2017



Sen. Wyden, Ron [D-OR]

06/12/2017



Sen. Sasse, Ben [R-NE]


06/15/2017



Sen. Coons, Christopher A. [D-DE]

06/26/2017



Sen. Bennet, Michael F. [D-CO]

07/12/2017



Sen. Sullivan, Dan [R-AK]

07/12/2017



Sen. Cassidy, Bill [R-LA]

07/18/2017



Sen. Tillis, Thom [R-NC]

07/19/2017



Sen. Cotton, Tom [R-AR]


07/19/2017

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Sen. Hatch, Orrin G. [R-UT]

No surprise there. :(

[openfire]

Grotesque as it is, the bill appears to be fairly toothless. How could it be enforced? How would they prove that one's reason for not buying an Israeli product was political? The person doing the boycotting would have to pretty much admit it in public: could really only be enforced against outspoken activists, I would think. It's also quite likely to be struck down by the courts. Anyway, it'll be most enlightening to see who ends up supporting in in Congress, and how His Orangeness reacts should it come to his desk.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm5Je73bYOY

This law would give your fellow traitors the ability to jail the leaders of the BDS movement, hardly "toothless".

[r3volution 3.0]

This law would give your fellow traitors the ability to jail the leaders of the BDS movement, hardly "toothless".

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[timosman]

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Your status on this forum quickly approaches that of Zippy. Do you think you could find another place to troll? It would be good for you.

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Complete list of supporters in Congress:

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To ve devil's advocate, it take big bucks to win a senate seat in most cases.





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LewRockwell.com: U.S. Senators Are Nearly All Stooges for Israel (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?441430-LewRockwell-com-U-S-Senators-Are-Nearly-All-Stooges-for-Israel&)

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[unknown]

What are those asshats gonna do next, throw me in jail for not buying Hebrew National hot dogs? Guess what, FUCK YOU Israel I'm sticking with Oscar Meyer.

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Land Of The Free: Bill making it crime to boycott Israel, upto $1M fine , 20 years prison


Freedom has its quirks:


Bill making it a federal crime to support BDS sends shockwaves through progressive community

US Politics (http://mondoweiss.net/us-politics/) Philip Weiss (http://mondoweiss.net/author/philweiss/) on July 20, 2017 95 Comments (http://mondoweiss.net/2017/07/shockwaves-progressive-community/#comments)


Adam Schiff, one of the supporters of bill making it a crime to support BDS

There is only one story in the news, for followers of the Israel/Palestine conflict, and that is Glenn Greenwald and Ryan Grim’s report at the Intercept yesterday (https://theintercept.com/2017/07/19/u-s-lawmakers-seek-to-criminally-outlaw-support-for-boycott-campaign-against-israel/) on new legislation in the Congress that would criminalize support for Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS). Yes, criminalize.
The bill is such a crude example of overreach by the Israel lobby that it is sure to backfire on its supporters as Greenwald and Grim’s report ricochets around the Democratic Party:
But now, a group of 43 senators — 29 Republicans and 14 Democrats — wants to implement a law that would make it a felony for Americans to support the international boycott against Israel, which was launched in protest of that country’s decades-old occupation of Palestine. The two primary sponsors of the bill (https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/720) are Democrat Ben Cardin of Maryland and Republican Rob Portman of Ohio. Perhaps the most shocking aspect is the punishment: Anyone guilty of violating the prohibitions will face a minimum civil penalty of $250,000 and a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million and 20 years in prison.


The proposed measure, called the Israel Anti-Boycott Act (S. 720), was introduced by Cardin on March 23. The Jewish Telegraphic Agency reports (http://www.jta.org/2017/07/18/news-opinion/politics/aclu-urges-senators-to-oppose-bill-targeting-israel-boycotts#.WW56hI3d8rE.twitter) that the bill “was drafted with the assistance of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee.” Indeed, AIPAC, in its 2017 lobbying agenda (http://www.policyconference.org/pdf/aipac-pc2017-lobbying-agenda.pdf), identified passage of this bill as one of its top lobbying priorities for the year:

The bill’s co-sponsors include (https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/720/cosponsors) the senior Democrat in Washington, Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, his New York colleague Kirsten Gillibrand, and several of the Senate’s more liberal members, such as Ron Wyden of Oregon, Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut, and Maria Cantwell of Washington.

There is similar legislation in the House, also sponsored by liberal heroes.
And the ACLU has opposed the (https://www.aclu.org/letter/aclu-letter-senate-opposing-israel-anti-boycott-act)act. It writes:
The ACLU wrote to members of the Senate to urge them to oppose and refrain from co-sponsoring the Israel Anti-Boycott Act (H.R. 1697/S. 720). The impacts of the legislation would be antithetical to free speech protections enshrined in the First Amendment and we urged members to oppose the legislation in the absence of significant revisions.

The Intercept notes that it was valiant of the ACLU to oppose the measure– “Even the bravest of organizations often steadfastly avoid any controversies relating to Israel” — and then does the yeoman journalistic labor of asking liberal Congresspeople whether they accepted the ACLU position. So far, no takers!

This bill is the work of the Israel lobby. It was drafted by one of the lead Israel-support groups, AIPAC– “one of the most powerful, and pernicious, lobbying forces in the country,” as the Intercept puts it. Greenwald and Grim raise the issue of the American people’s interest:
In what conceivable sense is it of benefit to Americans to turn them into felons for the crime of engaging in political activism in protest of a foreign nation’s government?
Older Jews tend to be huge ideological supporters of Israel. Ben Cardin goes to synagogues and tells other older Jews that Palestinian statehood (http://mondoweiss.net/2012/03/sen-cardin-tells-how-he-and-hillary-clinton-muscled-foreign-ambassadors-to-block-anti-american-palestinian-statehood/) is “anti-American.” Schumer has called himself the “Schomer” or guardian of Israel and said that there is a Jewish interest in supporting Israel (http://mondoweiss.net/2015/06/schumer-american-interests/). A year ago Stephanie Schriock of Emily’s List and JJ Goldberg of the Forward (http://mondoweiss.net/2016/04/forward-columnist-and-emilys-list-leader-relate-gigantic-shocking-role-of-jewish-democratic-donors/) described the “gigantic” and “shocking” degree of the Democratic Party’s reliance on Jewish wealth for campaign contributions.

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[Brian4Liberty]

Perhaps the Teocons like Rubio, Cruz, Cotton and Sasse can explain how this proposal is even remotely constitutional.

[timosman]

Perhaps the Teocons like Rubio, Cruz, Cotton and Sasse can explain how this proposal is even remotely constitutional.

Well, we've had it with the rednecks standing in the way of implementing our globalist agenda. We need new laws which will neutralize the articles of the constitution as they are clearly obsolete and prevent everybody from achieving the state of nirvana - working for the one world government where people are respectful, happy and nice.

[AZJoe]

Grotesque as it is, the bill appears to be fairly toothless. ...

Toothless huh? So as long as everyone shuts up, never expresses any comment or argument in violation of the unapproved thought expression statute, then its all hunky dory. Because if anyone expresses the wrong opinion advocating the wrong political stance, its felony time - prison and exorbitant fines.

As long as an entire populace self censors themselves, and doesn't speak their thoughts which run afoul of the political advocacy law; As long as they don't open their mouths and say something truthful; as long as they don't express boycott of a nefarious government for its heinous policies, its all good.

So everyone keeps their head down, never expressing any advocacy in violation of the political thought crime law , and thus no one goes to prison and that makes it toothless? That does not make it toothless. That makes it even worse. The mere threat from the law censors the population, silencing entire viewpoints and expressions. Not being able to express unapproved political advocacy is horrible.

That is a far worse bite then mere prison and fines. It means means the law designed to chill the unapproved thoughts and political advocacy has completely succeeded in silencing an entire population from expressing unapproved thoughts. That is a far, far worse wound and damage to freedom.

[openfire]

Toothless huh? So as long as everyone shuts up, never expresses any comment or argument in violation of the unapproved thought expression statute, then its all hunky dory. Because if anyone expresses the wrong opinion advocating the wrong political stance, its felony time - prison and exorbitant fines.

As long as an entire populace self censors themselves, and doesn't speak their thoughts which run afoul of the political advocacy law; As long as they don't open their mouths and say something truthful; as long as they don't express boycott of a nefarious government for its heinous policies, its all good.

So everyone keeps their head down, never expressing any advocacy in violation of the political thought crime law , and thus no one goes to prison and that makes it toothless? That does not make it toothless. That makes it even worse. The mere threat from the law censors the population, silencing entire viewpoints and expressions. Not being able to express unapproved political advocacy is horrible.

That is a far worse bite then mere prison and fines. It means means the law designed to chill the unapproved thoughts and political advocacy has completely succeeded in silencing an entire population from expressing unapproved thoughts. That is a far, far worse wound and damage to freedom.

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What r3volution 3.0, no response?


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What AZJoe wrote should be self evident to any liberty minded individual, certainly anyone with an account on this forum... Sadly, shills and cucks alike need it spelled out for them because they just don't understand liberty, or worse, are paid to undermine it. I'm unsure which category the poster in question belongs to, but I suspect the latter based on his posting history... I would have banned this MFer a long time ago.

[r3volution 3.0]

openfire AZJoe I suggest you reread my original post, as many times necessary for you to understand the error of your ways.

This probably means a good dozen times.

Report back when you've completed your assignment.

[Suzanimal]

Grotesque as it is, the bill appears to be fairly toothless. How could it be enforced? How would they prove that one's reason for not buying an Israeli product was political? The person doing the boycotting would have to pretty much admit it in public: could really only be enforced against outspoken activists, I would think. It's also quite likely to be struck down by the courts. Anyway, it'll be most enlightening to see who ends up supporting in in Congress, and how His Orangeness reacts should it come to his desk.


Gee, I dunno. Facebook...Twitter...people are generally outspoken about what products they boycott and why. I think it would be fairly easy to prove. And even if they do only go after outspoken activists does that make it okay? As far as being struck down by the courts, have you taken a close look at the state of the courts lately?

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[r3volution 3.0]

Gee, I dunno. Facebook...Twitter...people are generally outspoken about what products they boycott and why. I think it would be fairly easy to prove. And even if they do only go after outspoken activists does that make it okay? As far as being struck down by the courts, have you taken a close look at the state of the courts lately?

Did I say it was okay? What's the first word of my post; is it "okay" or "grotesque"?

Why do you think I indicated that Trump would support it; given that I despise Trump, was that an endorsement of the bill, you think?

Why do you think I posted a list of the Congressmen who support it: so you could send them thank you letters?

Gee, I dunno...

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[Suzanimal]

Did I say it was okay? What's the first word of my post; is it "okay" or "grotesque"?

Why do you think I indicated that Trump would support it; given that I despise Trump, was that an endorsement of the bill, you think?

Why do you think I posted a list of the Congressmen who support it: so you could send them thank you letters?


Why bother, it's "toothless"? And the courts won't uphold it and how would they even catch you?

Your whole post smacked of apathy towards the bill.



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LOL, you're such a fucking crybaby.