Why Americans are having less sex

[Anti Federalist]

tl;dr - Pill popping, helicopter parenting, constant finger fucking of cel phones and third wave feminism killing off sex.



Why Americans are having less sex

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/19/health/americans-less-sex-kerner/index.html

(CNN)Today, sex seems more available to us than ever before. With just a swipe on their phones, singles can schedule their next hookup, while committed couples have an apparent "sure thing" every night. This is also known as "the marriage advantage."

Why, then, are Americans having less sex than they were 20 years ago, not more?

According to a recent study published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior, a large general social survey found that American adults had sex about nine fewer times per year in the early 2010s than they did in the late 1990s, a decline that wasn't explained by longer work hours or increased use of pornography.

Although it's not entirely clear what is behind this dip, theories about the potential causes abound. For instance, people are having children later in life, which may make them too tired for sex.

The parenting effect

"A lot of parents feel like they've already done about 50 things they didn't want to do that day, like getting up at dawn, dealing with their child's tantrums. Adding sex to the menu just seems like too much," said Samantha Lutz, a psychologist. "So we turn to things like Netflix to unwind, which leads to immediate gratification with zero energy expended."

Parents also seem to be much more involved with their children's lives than in the past. "Parents are constantly driving their children to school and extracurricular activities," said Amanda Pasciucco, a licensed marriage and family therapist. In previous years, children had more freedom and fewer organized activities, which meant more free time for their parents.

"We don't know if indeed the 'marriage advantage' is now a 'disadvantage,' " said Debby Herbenick, president of the American Association of Sexuality Educators, Counselors and Therapists, "in part because so many other things have changed about sex and health in America in recent decades, including far more Americans taking medications with sexual side effects, far more Americans dealing with chronic health conditions -- like diabetes -- known to affect sex, and millions more Americans surviving cancer -- which is wonderful -- but often with sexual side effects from cancer treatments. An important question for future research would be, all else being equal (including health status), how does marital status relate to people's sex lives?"

For committed couples, technology can be a distraction that takes attention away from their partner. "Whether they're at dinner or walking their dog, I see more and more couples looking at their respective phones while they're together," said Marty Klein, author and certified sex therapist. "This reduced conversation and attention for each other can't be good, as it reduces the 'simmering' feeling that so many people want as the context for sex."

"Many couples find themselves in bed looking at their devices, freely admitting that they're doing nothing all that compelling," added Deborah Fox, a psychotherapist. "They've allowed themselves to drift into habits that disconnect them. If sex has become boring for these couples, it's because they've allowed the drift to dampen their creativity, not because that YouTube video is so much more exciting."

That might seem obvious for couples dealing with the routines that settle into long-term relationships, but with single folks, technology -- including dating apps such as Tinder -- may reduce the likelihood of sex, too. "In the age of Tinder, people are having more cybersex," Pasciucco explained.

"Sexting and sending photos is rampant," she said, "and I have heard more and more people reporting to me that they send nude photos to people they've never met -- and never intend to meet!"

Francie L. Stone, a clinical psychologist, has observed similar behaviors. "In speaking with young women and men, it seems (they use) dating and hookup apps more as a way to affirm themselves. The women in particular say that they use these apps when they are drunk or bored. They never meet up and have no intention to; they just enjoy the sexual banter. They're using it as a replacement for 'real-life' sex and to explore their own sexuality, what they may like and what they may not like, all in the safety of their own environment."

This may lead people to masturbate instead. "I think young singles having less sex boils down to them having more choice. They can be picky, and they are," said Holly Richmond, a certified sex therapist. "If it can't be a stellar experience, they'd rather not bother when they know they can go home to great porn and high-quality toys that deliver grade-A orgasms."

Herbenick, also an associate professor at Indiana University School of Public Health, added that "we may be having less sex, but I would argue it's better sex. We actually don't know if singles are having 'less sex' since the (survey) never defined sex and doesn't ask about the many kinds of sex play that people engage in (including masturbation, oral sex and sex toy play), especially during hookups. It is possible that singles are having less frequent intercourse but about the same (or more or less) of other kinds of sex, such as oral sex or hand stimulation or sex toy play."

Is less sex really a bad thing?

"As a certified sex therapist, I am more concerned with the type of sex -- is it intense on an emotional, intellectual, physical and spiritual level? -- than I am on the number of times per week," Pasciucco said.

In fact, the drop in sex might be the result of culture shifts and female empowerment, explained Margie Nichols, a psychologist.

Compared with earlier generations, women might be viewing sex as less of a duty to their husbands and more of a personal choice.

"It makes sense that women in relationships might be losing their sex drive and saying 'no' more, as opposed to my mother's generation that just spread their legs and composed a shopping list in their heads during sex," she said. "If that's true, then the decline in frequency is a good thing."

On that note, remember, a healthy sex life is whatever works for you and your partner. It can't be measured by a statistic.

[fisharmor]

Parents also seem to be much more involved with their children's lives than in the past. "Parents are constantly driving their children to school and extracurricular activities," said Amanda Pasciucco, a licensed marriage and family therapist. In previous years, children had more freedom and fewer organized activities, which meant more free time for their parents.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

As late as the 1990s, it would have been perfectly acceptable for an 8-year-old kid to be out with a group of other kids, as late as 10pm on a school night.

It certainly wouldn't have resulted in felony neglect charges for the parents.

And if the cops pick up your kids and come home and see you were fucking... well, better hope they let you get dressed before you get locked up.

[Brian4Liberty]

No need for sex when people have Snapchat, Netflix and thirteen-hundred channels of sh!t on the TV to choose from.

[donnay]

Also factor-in endocrine disrupting chemicals bombarding people daily.

Here is a list of endocrine disruptors to try avoid:


BPA
Dioxin
Atrazine
Perchlorate
Fire retardants
Lead
Arsenic
Mercury
Perfluorinated chemicals (PFCs)
Bleach
Organophosphate pesticides
Parabens
Phytoestrogens
Phthalates
Xenoestrogens

References:
http://www.saragottfriedmd.com/how-your-hormones-really-affect-your-sex-drive-what-to-do-about-it/
http://www.ewg.org/research/dirty-dozen-list-endocrine-disruptors#.WW933aCZMx8
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2726844/
http://www.nomorebreastcancer.org.uk/common_carcinogens.html
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/jeph/2012/713696/

[timosman]

Blood pressure medicine.:cool:

[Brian4Liberty]

a decline that wasn't explained by longer work hours or increased use of pornography
...
"Sexting and sending photos is rampant," she said, "and I have heard more and more people reporting to me that they send nude photos to people they've never met -- and never intend to meet!"
...
In the age of Tinder, people are having more cybersex," Pasciucco explained.
...
This may lead people to masturbate instead. "I think young singles having less sex boils down to them having more choice. They can be picky, and they are," said Holly Richmond, a certified sex therapist. "If it can't be a stellar experience, they'd rather not bother when they know they can go home to great porn and high-quality toys that deliver grade-A orgasms."


The article contradicts itself. But it does lead to a definition problem. Is Snapchat, sexting and cybersexing pornography?

[Suzanimal]

"If it can't be a stellar experience, they'd rather not bother when they know they can go home to great porn and high-quality toys that deliver grade-A orgasms."

Not the same. Trust me.


"As a certified sex therapist, I am more concerned with the type of sex -- is it intense on an emotional, intellectual, physical and spiritual level? -- than I am on the number of times per week," Pasciucco said.

Gimme a break...

[dannno]

Not the same. Trust me.



Gimme a break...

Deserves a double +rep

[Marenco]

No need for sex when people have Snapchat, Netflix and thirteen-hundred channels of sh!t on the TV to choose from.

This is definitely a big part of it.

[euphemia]

They can speak for themselves.

[DGambler]

And we work our asses off to pay the bills and fall into bed exhausted every night.

[heavenlyboy34]

Not the same. Trust me.



Yup. Suzanimal is a better sexologist than experts quoted by CNN. :cool:

[Matt Collins]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO1ifNaNABY

[Iowa]

Do dolls and yourself count as more?

[Suzanimal]

We actually don't know if singles are having 'less sex' since the (survey) never defined sex


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp3TQf2xDc8

[shakey1]

Also factor-in endocrine disrupting chemicals bombarding people daily.

Here is a list of endocrine disruptors to try avoid:


BPA
Dioxin
Atrazine
Perchlorate
Fire retardants
Lead
Arsenic
Mercury
Perfluorinated chemicals (PFCs)
Bleach
Organophosphate pesticides
Parabens
Phytoestrogens
Phthalates
Xenoestrogens

References:
http://www.saragottfriedmd.com/how-your-hormones-really-affect-your-sex-drive-what-to-do-about-it/
http://www.ewg.org/research/dirty-dozen-list-endocrine-disruptors#.WW933aCZMx8
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2726844/
http://www.nomorebreastcancer.org.uk/common_carcinogens.html
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/jeph/2012/713696/

Yeah, this... proliferating & permeating in our daily lives... on top our every day stress & distractions of our 'brave new world'.

[Occam's Banana]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp3TQf2xDc8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdUyBziKXP8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdUyBziKXP8

[juleswin]

STD rates are at record highs same goes for teen pregnancies for teenagers and yet I am supposed to ignore those indicators of people having sex and believe a survey study? and yea, I stopped readiing once I read the survey study part

[Anti Federalist]

STD rates are at record highs same goes for teen pregnancies for teenagers and yet I am supposed to ignore those indicators of people having sex and believe a survey study? and yea, I stopped readiing once I read the survey study part

False.

http://media.morristechnology.com/webmedia/upload/santa_clarita/article/2014/05/12/0512_pregnancy.jpg

https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/newshour/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/STDs_stat_1.jpg

[Anti Federalist]

In spite of CNN's scare headline...

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/20/health/std-statistics-record-high/index.html


Overall, young people and gay and bisexual men face the greatest risk of getting a STD, according to the new report. It's estimated that about half of the nearly 20 million new STD cases reported annually are among 15 to 24 year olds.

So, at least some of this can be attributed to qu eer sex.

[juleswin]

False.

http://media.morristechnology.com/webmedia/upload/santa_clarita/article/2014/05/12/0512_pregnancy.jpg

https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/newshour/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/STDs_stat_1.jpg

Well, I hear about the STD epidemic in Omaha teens all morning on the local radio and thought that it was true. But I stand corrected, it does seem like people are having less sex.

[Anti Federalist]

Well, I hear about the STD epidemic in Omaha teens all morning on the local radio and thought that it was true. But I stand corrected, it does seem like people are having less sex.

I think they are masturbating to porn or having qu eer sex maybe...

[Anti Federalist]

Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/young-men-giving-up-on-marriage-women-arent-women-anymore

Fewer young men in the US want to get married than ever, while the desire for marriage is rising among young women, according to the Pew Research Center.

Pew recently found that the number of women 18-34 saying that having a successful marriage is one of the most important things rose from 28 percent to 37 percent since 1997. The number of young adult men saying the same thing dropped from 35 percent to 29 percent in the same time.

Pew’s findings have caught the attention of one US writer who maintains that feminism, deeply entrenched in every segment of the culture, has created an environment in which young men find it more beneficial to simply opt out of couple-dom entirely.

Suzanne Venker’s article, “The War on Men,” which appeared on the website of Fox News in late November, has become a lodestone for feminist writers who have attacked her position that the institution of marriage is threatened, not enhanced, by the supposed gains of the feminist movement over the last 50 years.

“Where have all the good (meaning marriageable) men gone?” is a question much talked about lately in the secular media, Venker says, but her answer, backed up by statistics, is not to the liking of mainstream commentators influenced by feminism.

She points out that for the first time in US history, the number of women in the workforce has surpassed the number of men, while more women than men are acquiring university degrees.

“The problem? This new phenomenon has changed the dance between men and women,” Venker wrote. With feminism pushing them out of their traditional role of breadwinner, protector and provider – and divorce laws increasingly creating a dangerously precarious financial prospect for the men cut loose from marriage – men are simply no longer finding any benefit in it.

As a writer and researcher into the trends of marriage and relationships, Venker said, she has “accidentally stumbled upon a subculture” of men who say “in no uncertain terms, that they’re never getting married.”

“When I ask them why, the answer is always the same: women aren’t women anymore.” Feminism, which teaches women to think of men as the enemy, has made women “angry” and “defensive, though often unknowingly.”

“Now the men have nowhere to go. It is precisely this dynamic – women good/men bad – that has destroyed the relationship between the sexes. Yet somehow, men are still to blame when love goes awry.”

“Men are tired,” Venker wrote. “Tired of being told there’s something fundamentally wrong with them. Tired of being told that if women aren’t happy, it’s men’s fault.”

Feminism and the sexual revolution have simply made marriage “obsolete” for women as a social and economic refuge, but this is a situation that should not be celebrated by feminists, Venker says.

“It’s the women who lose. Not only are they saddled with the consequences of sex, by dismissing male nature they’re forever seeking a balanced life. The fact is, women need men’s linear career goals – they need men to pick up the slack at the office – in order to live the balanced life they seek.”

A cross section of research data from the Pew Research Center for the last months of 2012 shows the alarming trends for marriage and child-bearing in the US. One report published in mid-December said that the latest census data showed “barely half” of all adults in the United States are currently married, a “record low”. Since 1960, the number of married adults has decreased from 72 percent to 51 today and the number of new marriages in the U.S. declined by five percent between 2009 and 2010.

Moreover, the median age at first marriage continues to rise with women getting married the first time at 26.5 years and men at 28.7. The declines in marriage are “most dramatic” among young adults. Just 20 percent of those aged 18 to 29 are married, compared with 59 percent in 1960.

“If current trends continue, the share of adults who are currently married will drop to below half within a few years,” the report said.

Moreover, the link between marriage and childrearing has become disconnected in the minds of the so-called Millennial generation, those between 18 and 29. While 52 percent of Millennials say being a good parent is “one of the most important things” in life, just 30 per cent say the same about having a successful marriage, an attitudinal survey found.

The gap, of 22 percentage points, between the value Millennials place on parenthood over marriage, was just 7 points in 1997. The research found that Millennials, many of whom are the children of divorce and single-parenthood themselves, are also less likely than their elders to say that a child needs both a father and mother at home, that single parenthood and unmarried couple parenthood are bad for society.

[Anti Federalist]

Do Women’s Orgasms Function as a Masculinity Achievement for Men?

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224499.2017.1283484?journalCode=hjsr20&

Sara B. Chadwick & Sari M. van Anders
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Abstract

Orgasms have been promoted as symbols of sexual fulfillment for women, and have perhaps become the symbol of a woman’s healthy sex life. However, some research has suggested that this focus on women’s orgasms, though ostensibly for women, may actually serve men; but the mechanisms of this are unclear. In the present experiment, we hypothesized that women’s orgasms specifically function as a masculinity achievement for men. To test this, we randomly assigned 810 men (M age = 25.44, SD = 8.31) to read a vignette where they imagined that an attractive woman either did or did not orgasm during a sexual encounter with them. Participants then rated their sexual esteem and the extent to which they would feel masculine after experiencing the given situation. Our results showed that men felt more masculine and reported higher sexual esteem when they imagined that a woman orgasmed during sexual encounters with them, and that this effect was exacerbated for men with high masculine gender role stress. These results suggest that women’s orgasms do function—at least in part—as a masculinity achievement for men.

[Suzanimal]

Do Women’s Orgasms Function as a Masculinity Achievement for Men?

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224499.2017.1283484?journalCode=hjsr20&

Sara B. Chadwick & Sari M. van Anders
Pages 1-12 | Published online: 23 Feb 2017
Download citation http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/00224499.2017.1283484
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Abstract

Orgasms have been promoted as symbols of sexual fulfillment for women, and have perhaps become the symbol of a woman’s healthy sex life. However, some research has suggested that this focus on women’s orgasms, though ostensibly for women, may actually serve men; but the mechanisms of this are unclear. In the present experiment, we hypothesized that women’s orgasms specifically function as a masculinity achievement for men. To test this, we randomly assigned 810 men (M age = 25.44, SD = 8.31) to read a vignette where they imagined that an attractive woman either did or did not orgasm during a sexual encounter with them. Participants then rated their sexual esteem and the extent to which they would feel masculine after experiencing the given situation. Our results showed that men felt more masculine and reported higher sexual esteem when they imagined that a woman orgasmed during sexual encounters with them, and that this effect was exacerbated for men with high masculine gender role stress. These results suggest that women’s orgasms do function—at least in part—as a masculinity achievement for men.

That makes sense. I know I would feel like a loser if my lover didn't have one. I imagine it's hard for men because not only is every woman different, what the same woman wants at any given time is different. And to top it off, most woman won't talk about it. I try to educate Mr Animal when he least expects it. If I try explain during sex, he doesn't hear it but if I randomly start telling him what my naughty bits want in the car when he's a captive audience, he gets it. Plus, it builds his desire. It's a game.:)

Example
*we're out running errands*
Mr A: What's on you list?
Me: I forgot it. (I make these elaborate lists and forget them every. single. time.:o)
Mr A: *groans*
Me: Ya know what...the other night was fun but did you know the clitoris is shaped like a horseshoe and I was thinking...
Mr A: Wait...start over, I wasn't listening.*grins*
Me: :D

[William Tell]

Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/young-men-giving-up-on-marriage-women-arent-women-anymore

Fewer young men in the US want to get married than ever, while the desire for marriage is rising among young women, according to the Pew Research Center.

Pew recently found that the number of women 18-34 saying that having a successful marriage is one of the most important things rose from 28 percent to 37 percent since 1997. The number of young adult men saying the same thing dropped from 35 percent to 29 percent in the same time. Wow, that is a sorry testament to the state of both sexes. Only 29 percent of dudes even want a successful marriage, or are placing it behind getting a Harley or a Corvette. I'm sorry, but feminism is not the only problem here. I guess I'm naive but I would think any man would have a meaningful relationship with a young woman at the top of his list. Sorry, I don't buy that that 71% meant they actually want to love a non feminist.


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Moreover, the link between marriage and childrearing has become disconnected in the minds of the so-called Millennial generation, those between 18 and 29. While 52 percent of Millennials say being a good parent is “one of the most important things” in life, just 30 per cent say the same about having a successful marriage, an attitudinal survey found.

The gap, of 22 percentage points, between the value Millennials place on parenthood over marriage, was just 7 points in 1997. The research found that Millennials, many of whom are the children of divorce and single-parenthood themselves, are also less likely than their elders to say that a child needs both a father and mother at home, that single parenthood and unmarried couple parenthood are bad for society. SMH. So a mere 52% of potential parents think that responsibility is important. Nice. And they are buying into a broken home being actually a good thing. The 22 percent who think being a good spouse isn't important but being a good parent is are truly lost souls. Loving your spouse is the best gift you can ever give your kids. This generation is so lost.

[DamianTV]

I thought it may be because Americans, on average, both women and men, are just FATTER and that much less attractive to the opposite sex! Or same sex, or Trans, or just fucking whatever the MSM glorifies and throws at us now!

[Feeding the Abscess]

I thought it may be because Americans, on average, both women and men, are just FATTER and that much less attractive to the opposite sex! Or same sex, or Trans, or just $#@!ing whatever the MSM glorifies and throws at us now!

I'll co-sign that.

I saw an article and graphic the other day that broke down the average number of sexual partners before marriage for an individual (may have just been for women) over the last few decades, and over the last couple of decades, the number of virgins before marriage has risen, but so has the number of people with 10+ partners. The increasing amount of overweight people could well push the extremes of the sexual experience spectrum.