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dude58677
07-16-2017, 10:16 AM
He doesn't want Trump Organization to go out of business. If taxes are high then Trump Organization will have massive overhead which he will have to charge higher prices to make profit. If there is massive inflation then Trump Organization will also go out of busthe better Trump does with fixing the economy the better his business will do. His business sells ordinary products to ordinary Americans. Its not like he owns Lockheed Martin. His business isn't a contractor with the US government so he is going to do what he can to help the American economy for ordinary people. So he will lower taxes, regulations, and inflation, etc. He also won't start a war that will devestate the economy either.

The only ones complaining about his business interests while in office are people who want big government. Its no coincidence either.

kpitcher
07-16-2017, 02:09 PM
he is going to do what he can to help the American economy for ordinary people.

The yearly fee to Mar Lago is $200,000. I don't think anyone paying that sort of membership fee really qualifies as ordinary people.

Slave Mentality
07-16-2017, 02:57 PM
Ain't buying it dude. Got anything better for us poor old ordinary folks?

I can't even afford the mother fucker's steaks.

dude58677
07-16-2017, 04:00 PM
The new hotel American Idea is a three star hotel which is affordable.

Zippyjuan
07-16-2017, 04:03 PM
The yearly fee to Mar Lago is $200,000. I don't think anyone paying that sort of membership fee really qualifies as ordinary people.

It was doubled after he became president.


His business sells ordinary products to ordinary Americans

Like expensive hotel rooms? He doesn't sell anything ordinary people buy. Other than his reality TV show and his image.

dude58677
07-16-2017, 05:01 PM
It was doubled after he became president.



Like expensive hotel rooms? He doesn't sell anything ordinary people buy. Other than his reality TV show and his image.

Look up "American Idea Hotel" on google.

nikcers
07-16-2017, 05:13 PM
Ain't buying it dude. Got anything better for us poor old ordinary folks?

I can't even afford the mother $#@!er's steaks.

Since we have an insurance bailout fund maybe we can get a steak bailout fund and we can funnel a whole bunch of money into the steak distribution industry and have cheaper steak.
#Trumpenomics

dude58677
07-16-2017, 05:29 PM
[QUOTE=nikcers;6498436]Since we have an insurance bailout fund maybe we can get a steak bailout fund and we can funnel a whole bunch of money into the steak distribution industry and have cheaper steak.
#Trumpenomics[/

What you suggest would help his business in the short run but it will fail in the long run. His business can't excel with a economic depression so he still wouldn't do it.

dude58677
07-16-2017, 05:37 PM
Since we have an insurance bailout fund maybe we can get a steak bailout fund and we can funnel a whole bunch of money into the steak distribution industry and have cheaper steak.
#Trumpenomics

What you suggest would not help his business in the long run. His business can't excel with a great depression.

Slave Mentality
07-16-2017, 05:54 PM
Since we have an insurance bailout fund maybe we can get a steak bailout fund and we can funnel a whole bunch of money into the steak distribution industry and have cheaper steak.
#Trumpenomics

MAGA bruh

dude58677
07-16-2017, 06:37 PM
MAGA bruh

He's a businessman. He is not an ideolgue but we do know that bailouts don't work.

nikcers
07-16-2017, 06:42 PM
He's a businessman. He is not an ideolgue but we do know that bailouts don't work.
Then are you cutting the steakout idea? What do you have against BBQ?

dude58677
07-16-2017, 06:47 PM
Then are you cutting the steakout idea? What do you have against BBQ?

The fed inflates the currency which devalues the dollar to pay off these bank bailouts. In the long run it FAILS because the currency is inflated which devalues the dollar so businesses at l.

How Donald Trump is different from other politicians is that he is acting as a businessman while in office. The others use blind trusts and are career politicians thus they are out of touch with the American public and these politicians other than Trump call it "moral". A lot of politicians are part of the American Bar Association which means they are going to write laws to increase litigiation so of course politicians being the hypocrites they are don't have a problem with this.

TheCount
07-16-2017, 06:49 PM
Not bankrupting? What about his military expansion and $1 trillion infrastructure plan?

angelatc
07-16-2017, 06:49 PM
It was doubled after he became president.



Like expensive hotel rooms? He doesn't sell anything ordinary people buy. Other than his reality TV show and his image.

More "ordinary" people do business with Trump than Hillary.

angelatc
07-16-2017, 06:50 PM
He's a businessman. He is not an ideolgue but we do know that bailouts don't work.

Who knows that?

nikcers
07-16-2017, 06:51 PM
An American businessman is elected to head a bankrupt government. Instead of using business sense, the new president decides to increase both government spending and debt! Meanwhile, even though spending is increasing, his opponents are hysterically up in arms about "unconscionable cuts"! Ron Paul speaks truth about the insanity on today's Myth-Busters.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvNVALiGkBI

angelatc
07-16-2017, 06:52 PM
Ain't buying it dude. Got anything better for us poor old ordinary folks?

I can't even afford the mother fucker's steaks.

Then start here:https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51%2BB8cqHZ8L._SX322_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

RJB
07-16-2017, 07:07 PM
More "ordinary" people do business with Trump than Hillary.
Less ordinary people die from contact with him as well.

dude58677
07-16-2017, 07:23 PM
Not bankrupting? What about his military expansion and $1 trillion infrastructure plan?

He backed away from it because it would raise taxes and spending.

CaptUSA
07-16-2017, 07:25 PM
He backed away from it because it would raise taxes and spending.

Delusional. We've never spent more! Monthly-Federal-Spending-Hits-New-Record! (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?512881-Monthly-Federal-Spending-Hits-New-Record!)

dude58677
07-16-2017, 07:44 PM
Delusional. We've never spent more! Monthly-Federal-Spending-Hits-New-Record! (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?512881-Monthly-Federal-Spending-Hits-New-Record!)

That is Obamas Budget plan which started even before the elections. The 2018 Budget is far different. This is also not to say that a lot of employees in the Trump Administration are leftovers from the Obama Administration.

He also said previous administration's are to Blame for these out of control deficit so he says he is trying, he has personal/business incentive to try, and his willingness to cut regulations with executive orders. I don't know what else there is to say he isn't trying to improve our economy.

TheCount
07-16-2017, 08:12 PM
He backed away from it because it would raise taxes and spending.

Bullshit. He's a nationalist populist, and is certainly not scared of spending or taxes. He has repeatedly advocated raising taxes and raising spending, both during and after the campaign.

Trump backed away from his proposals because he couldn't get enough votes for them.

TheCount
07-16-2017, 08:18 PM
The 2018 Budget is far different.

How?

dude58677
07-16-2017, 08:19 PM
How?

Cuts UN spending in half off the top of my head. The Budget is overall a 800 billion dollar cut. No President in more than a century ever proposed a budget decrease.
.

AuH20
07-16-2017, 08:24 PM
Bankruptcy produces desperation. Desperation breeds insurrection. The people in the deep state who helped Trump can read the tea leaves.

TheCount
07-16-2017, 08:30 PM
No President in more than a century ever proposed a budget decrease.

Including Trump. There is no spending cut in his budget. Government spending increases every single year.

dude58677
07-16-2017, 08:38 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_United_States_federal_budget

Its 1.15 trillion overall.

dude58677
07-16-2017, 08:47 PM
Including Trump. There is no spending cut in his budget. Government spending increases every single year.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_United_States_federal_budget



The overall budget requested was 1.15 trillion. I made a mistake saying it was 3.3 trillion. The previous 3.3 trillion cane from a website that based the 2018 estimates based from the Obama Administration.

juleswin
07-16-2017, 09:04 PM
More "ordinary" people do business with Trump than Hillary.

Trump probably hires more illegal workers than Hillary, Trump is a closer friend to Hillary than any 2 people on this site not married to each other. This idea that one of these 2 human filth is significantly better than the other is just bunk. They show virtually the same disdain for the little man, fu*k them both with a rusty screwdriver.

TheCount
07-16-2017, 09:58 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_United_States_federal_budget

The overall budget requested was 1.15 trillion. I made a mistake saying it was 3.3 trillion. The previous 3.3 trillion cane from a website that based the 2018 estimates based from the Obama Administration.

Please show me where the spending cut happens.


http://i.imgur.com/YygxzmE.png

Origanalist
07-16-2017, 10:13 PM
Oh hell, we've been reduced to this.

Wooden Indian
07-17-2017, 12:23 AM
Trump good. Low taxes. America. Why business politician like? Bring inflation 1.5 trillion Obama.

Refute that!

CaptUSA
07-17-2017, 07:00 AM
That is Obamas Budget plan which started even before the elections. The 2018 Budget is far different. This is also not to say that a lot of employees in the Trump Administration are leftovers from the Obama Administration.

He also said previous administration's are to Blame for these out of control deficit so he says he is trying, he has personal/business incentive to try, and his willingness to cut regulations with executive orders. I don't know what else there is to say he isn't trying to improve our economy.

Yeah, he says a lot of things. :rolleyes:

So let me get this straight, the GOP controls all branches of the federal government but they can't cut spending because of legacy budgets?! Um, no. They control the purse strings. Budgeting and spending are two different things. The truth is that spending has increased - not decreased. And it isn't the fault of any "budget".

Quit getting caught up in rhetoric. It means nothing to these people.

Zippyjuan
07-17-2017, 11:41 AM
More "ordinary" people do business with Trump than Hillary.

Trump's business is Trump. Hillary's business is Trump. "Ordinary people" don't do any business with either of them.

Zippyjuan
07-17-2017, 11:57 AM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_United_States_federal_budget



The overall budget requested was 1.15 trillion. I made a mistake saying it was 3.3 trillion. The previous 3.3 trillion cane from a website that based the 2018 estimates based from the Obama Administration.

That $1.15 trillion is only "discressionary" spending. It does not include "mandatory" spending like Social Security, Medicare/ Medicaid, interest on the debt. The portions of the budget he has proposed cuts in only account for about 20% of the entire budget. Discressionary spending for FY2017 (Obama) was $1.149 trillion. Trump's proposals call for $1.188 trillion or an actual increase of $39 billion. $3.2 trillion is
including non- discressionary spending. https://www.thebalance.com/how-trump-amended-obama-budget-4128986

And again, that does not include higher expenditures in Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, and Interest on the Debt.

His cuts are figured over ten years- not next year. The cuts are mostly out into the future by which time a new budget would have been written and the proposed cuts forgotten. He does call for cuts in some departments while increasing spending in others. The proposal does not include any of his proposed $1 trillion in new infrastructure spending. It also assumed getting rid of Obamacare but he has been promoting the "replace" bill which negates some of his cuts like Medicaid.

But Congress will write the actual budget- the president can only suggest things. Most of his cuts are probably not going to happen. They are currently passing a higher defense spending bill.

dannno
07-17-2017, 12:21 PM
The yearly fee to Mar Lago is $200,000. I don't think anyone paying that sort of membership fee really qualifies as ordinary people.


Ain't buying it dude. Got anything better for us poor old ordinary folks?

I can't even afford the mother fucker's steaks.


It was doubled after he became president.



Like expensive hotel rooms? He doesn't sell anything ordinary people buy. Other than his reality TV show and his image.


Wow, all of you COMPLETELY missed the point, which is understandable as most of you have been diagnosed with Trump derangement syndrome, which makes it impossible to think clearly when it comes to debating about anything related to Trump.

Listen. Closely. The same things that will help Trump's business - like lower taxes, less regulations, etc, are the SAME THINGS that help regular business that serve regular people.. as opposed to helping businesses like Lockheed Martin. That was the point of the thread. You coming in and saying how you don't buy things from Trump's businesses are NOT AN ARGUMENT.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
07-17-2017, 01:04 PM
Bullshit. He's a nationalist populist, and is certainly not scared of spending or taxes.


And how is that different from your view of one world globalism and advocacy of big government spending?