Any computer expert here wanna examine the official reports on "Russian hacking"

[MrSmart1986]

The "evidence" that Russia hacked the 2016 comes ENTIRELY out of these official reports by the FBI/CIA. I'd say the report indeed does look impressive with its fancy computer language. But can anyone who knows anything about computers and hacking give an actual honest analysis of this report?

Have fun!

https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY%20STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

[dannno]

Thus, while the conclusions in the report are all reflected in the classified assessment, the declassified
report does not and cannot include the full supporting information, including specific intelligence and
sources and methods.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug75diEyiA0

[Swordsmyth]

"Thus, while the conclusions in the report are all reflected in the classified assessment, the declassified
report does not and cannot include the full supporting information, including specific intelligence and
sources and methods."


https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi0.wp.com%2Fhexagoninfulleffect.c om%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F02%2FPsyOps.jpg%3Fresiz e%3D403%252C310&f=1

[timosman]

This is all based on https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07/joint-statement-department-homeland-security-and-office-director-national


Release Date: October 7, 2016

The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process. Such activity is not new to Moscow—the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europe and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.

[RonPaulMall]

New analysis came out today from forensic specialist which suggests Guccifer 2.0 Leak was inside job by someone within the DNC. If this guy's analysis holds up, it is case closed (and case opened in terms of Seth Rich murder investigation):

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-10/new-research-shows-guccifer-20-files-were-copied-locally-dnc-not-hacked-russians

[timosman]

https://theforensicator.wordpress.com/guccifer-2-ngp-van-metadata-analysis/


Conclusion 6: The initial DNC file collection activity began at approximately 2016-07-05 18:39:02 EDT and ended at 2016-07-05 18:53:17 EDT. This conclusion is supported by the observed last modified times and the earlier conclusion that the ex-filtrated files were copied to a computer located in the Eastern Time zone.

Conclusion 7. A transfer rate of 23 MB/s is estimated for this initial file collection operation. This transfer rate can be achieved when files are copied over a LAN, but this rate is too fast to support the hypothesis that the DNC data was initially copied over the Internet (esp. to Romania). This transfer rate can also be achieved when copying directly from a computer’s hard drive to a fairly slow USB flash drive; there is a lot variability in USB flash drive speeds. We can shorten this statement and say that the 23 MB/s transfer rate supports the conclusion that the files were initially copied locally and not over the Internet.

23MB/s is almost 200Mbps. Not impossible but highly unlikely the uplink from DNC and the source computer would be able to sustain it. 23MB/s is your typical flash drive copy rate. There is a 0.0001% chance the files were copied over network.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX5jNnDMfxA

[nikcers]

The "evidence" that Russia hacked the 2016 comes ENTIRELY out of these official reports by the FBI/CIA. I'd say the report indeed does look impressive with its fancy computer language. But can anyone who knows anything about computers and hacking give an actual honest analysis of this report?

Have fun!

https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY%20STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

There's lots of evidence, just not many people with many good ideas on what we should do in retaliation because everything we do gets met with sarcastic comments from Russian politicans about how we should not forget about how many nukes they have. I know Russians meddled with the election I argued with them on the internet. You have to be very smart to conclude that this is the only evidence we have to support the Russian interference in the election when even Putin said they did it, but basically we couldn't prove it was ordered by the Russian government and only know that it was done in Russia by Russians, and that we don't know if it was orchestrated by a foreign state or just by patriotic Russians.

[UWDude]

Russians argue about elections on the internet? In English? Pretty sure they are the only ones.

Because Mexicans just vote in the elections.

[Swordsmyth]

I know Russians meddled with the election I argued with them on the internet.
Arguing on the internet does not qualify as "Meddling in the Election".


You have to be very smart to conclude that this is the only evidence we have to support the Russian interference in the election when even Putin said they did it
He said that IF a private Russian citizen had meddled it was not the fault of the Russian Government.


but basically we couldn't prove it was ordered by the Russian government and only know that it was done in Russia by Russians, and that we don't know if it was orchestrated by a foreign state or just by patriotic Russians.
Or it was done by the CIA/NSA using their tools to frame the Russians.

[nikcers]

Arguing on the internet does not qualify as "Meddling in the Election".


He said that IF a private Russian citizen had meddled it was not the fault of the Russian Government.


Or it was done by the CIA/NSA using their tools to frame the Russians.

Or Putin dropped a cool billion of his own private money because he is worth more money then Bill Gates to humiliate Clinton because she was trying regime change in Russia? You know all of those deals Clinton made with the Russians? Clinton had been working on regime change for years.

[Swordsmyth]

Or Putin dropped a cool billion of his own private money because he is worth more money then Bill Gates to humiliate Clinton because she was trying regime change in Russia? You know all of those deals Clinton made with the Russians? Clinton had been working on regime change for years.
OR ALIENS did it.
And by the way since we know about Clinton's Regime change operations then she hasn't got a leg to stand on to complain if Putin did do it now does she.
If the Russians did reveal the TRUTH about the Demoncrats to the public we should be thanking them for it.

[nikcers]

OR ALIENS did it.
And by the way since we know about Clinton's Regime change operations then she hasn't got a leg to stand on to complain if Putin did do it now does she.
If the Russians did reveal the TRUTH about the Demoncrats to the public we should be thanking them for it.
No I am not thanking the Russians for president Trump. I think I would of had a better chance at a President Paul without their help.

[Swordsmyth]

No I am not thanking the Russians for president Trump. I think I would of had a better chance at a President Paul without their help.

So now they meddled in the Primary too?

https://static.infowars.com/politicalsidebarimage/cnn-russia.jpg

[UWDude]

Or Putin dropped a cool billion of his own private money because he is worth more money then Bill Gates to humiliate Clinton because she was trying regime change in Russia?

Guessing at conspiracy theories, are you?


I think I would of had a better chance at a President Paul without their help.

PUH LEAZE!

WHAT DID THE RUSSIANS DO TO UNDERMINE RAND PAUL!!??

[timosman]

No I am not thanking the Russians for president Trump. I think I would of had a better chance at a President Paul without their help.

I don't think you will be able to save this one. -rep

[timosman]

There's lots of evidence, just not many people with many good ideas on what we should do in retaliation because everything we do gets met with sarcastic comments from Russian politicans about how we should not forget about how many nukes they have. I know Russians meddled with the election I argued with them on the internet. You have to be very smart to conclude that this is the only evidence we have to support the Russian interference in the election when even Putin said they did it, but basically we couldn't prove it was ordered by the Russian government and only know that it was done in Russia by Russians, and that we don't know if it was orchestrated by a foreign state or just by patriotic Russians.

You need to have your head examined.:D

[UWDude]

I don't think you will be able to save this one. -rep

ME too. The guy is a sock puppet shill.

[timosman]

ME too. The guy is a sock puppet shill.

In his defense he only acts this way 51% of the time. :cool:

[nikcers]

In his defense he only acts this way 51% of the time. :cool:
Or maybe I don't praise someone who worked for a corrupt government for the majority of his life and somehow winds up being the richest man in the world. I am sure he has enough money to pay for a few trolls. It's sort of how Russia keeps the peace over there, the government controls everything on the internet over there.

[timosman]

Or maybe I don't praise someone who worked for a corrupt government for the majority of his life and somehow winds up being the richest man in the world. I am sure he has enough money to pay for a few trolls. It's sort of how Russia keeps the peace over there, the government controls everything on the internet over there.

Why don't you GTFO? You are wasting everybody's time by posting this drivel.

[Swordsmyth]

Or maybe I don't praise someone who worked for a corrupt government for the majority of his life and somehow winds up being the richest man in the world. I am sure he has enough money to pay for a few trolls. It's sort of how Russia keeps the peace over there, the government controls everything on the internet over there.

Putin is not my favorite human either but that does not mean he time traveled to start the Chicago fire etc.

[UWDude]

The "evidence" that Russia hacked the 2016 comes ENTIRELY out of these official reports by the FBI/CIA. I'd say the report indeed does look impressive with its fancy computer language. But can anyone who knows anything about computers and hacking give an actual honest analysis of this report?

Have fun!

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

I have already gone over, and pointed out what a load of bull this one is before, here are some good snippets from it:


pro-Kremlin radio and online content in a variety of languages for international audiences consistently cast President elect Trump as the target of unfair coverage from traditional US media outlets



On 6 August, RT published an English-language video called “Julian Assange Special: Do WikiLeaks Have the E-mail That’ll Put Clinton in Prison?” and an exclusive interview with Assange entitled “Clinton and ISIS Funded by the Same Money.” RT’s most popular video on Secretary Clinton, “How 100% of the Clintons’ ‘Charity’ Went to...Themselves,” had more than 9 million views on social media platforms.


From August to November 2012, RT ran numerous reports on alleged US election fraud and voting machine vulnerabilities, contending that US election results cannot be trusted and do not reflect the popular will.


In an effort to highlight the alleged "lack of democracy" in the United States, RT broadcast, hosted, and advertised third party candidate debates and ran reporting supportive of the political agenda of these candidates. The RT hosts asserted that the US two party system does not represent the views of at least one third of the population and is a "sham."


In an effort to highlight the alleged "lack of democracy" in the United States, RT broadcast, hosted, and advertised third-party candidate debates and ran reporting supportive of the political agenda of these candidates. The RT hosts asserted that the US two-party system does not represent the views of at least one-third of the population and is a "sham."


RT's reports often characterize the United States as a "surveillance state" and allege widespread infringements of civil liberties, police brutality, and drone use (RT, 24, 28 October, 1-10 November).


RT runs anti fracking programming, highlighting environmental issues and the impacts on public health.


RT is a leading media voice opposing Western intervention in the Syrian conflict and blaming the West for waging "information wars" against the Syrian Government (RT, 10 October 9 November).


According to Simonyan, "the word 'propaganda' has a very negative connotation, but indeed, there is not a single international foreign TV channel that is doing something other than promotion of the values of the country that it is broadcasting from." She added that "when Russia is at war, we are,of course, on Russia's side" (Afisha, 3 October; Kommersant, 4 July)

These are all quotes from the DNI intelligence report. They are mad RT reports the truth.

[MrSmart1986]

Well, in late December 2017 computer expert Adam Carter did find some evidence of some "hacked" DNC servers being deliberately tainted with Russian fingerprints.

First:
Neither the FBI nor any other agency investigated the hacked DNC servers. In April 2016 the DNC hired the cyber security firm Crowdstrike to investigate the servers. It was this firm that supposedly discovered that the technical methods behind the hack were similar to those used by two Russian intelligence groups, dubbed APT28 and APT29, also known as Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear.

The firm’s CTO and co-founder, Dmitri Alperovitch, is a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, a think tank with openly anti-Russian sentiments that is funded by Ukrainian billionaire Victor Pinchuk, who also happened to donate at least $10 million to the Clinton Foundation. In 2013, the Atlantic Council awarded Hillary Clinton it’s Distinguished International Leadership Award. In 2014, the Atlantic Council hosted one of several events with former Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk, who took over after pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych was ousted in early 2014, who now lives in exile in Russia.
https://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2017/03/23/what-is-crowdstrike-firm-hired-by-dnc-has-ties-to-hillary-clinton-a-ukrainian-billionaire-and-google/

Second:

One of the things used to identify it as belonging to Fancy Bear was a hard-coded IP address. 176.31.112.10

On the surface, it looks like the malware was likely to have been communicating with known Fancy Bear infrastructure due to the presence of an IP address that was well known to the infosec industry.

However, there’s a little problem with this assumption. That particular IP address was detected as being part of Fancy Bear in 2015 and the IP address was suspended/unassigned on May 20, 2015 by CrookServers:

So, the piece of Fancy Bear malware that was compiled on May 5, 2016 was using a hard-coded IP address that had ceased to be a functioning part of the Fancy Bear infrastructure for almost a year. Not only was it pointless to include it operationally, retaining it unnecessarily would be an obvious operational security risk for attackers and would inherently make the malware more detectable and make it easy for people to tie it to Fancy Bear.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-28/fancy-frauds-bogus-bears-malware-mimicry-did-crowdstrike-plant-russian-evidence-dnc



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[pcosmar]

MrSmart1986 Hi ya Max.

It's all coming out in the wash.
Russian Hack was a fabrication,, Trump connections a Red Herring..

and contrary to expectations,, Trump may actually accomplish some good.

[Jan2017]

January 26, 2018 1:45PM EST
Report: Dutch Spies Watched Russians Hack the DNC
The Dutch security service known as the AIVD reportedly spied on the Russian hacking team Cozy Bear
as it breached the Democratic National Committee.

Dutch security service known as the AIVD snooped on the Russian hacking team Cozy Bear by penetrating its computer network
in a Moscow university building back in the summer of 2014.
Specifically, it witnessed the Russian hackers stealing thousands of emails and files from the DNC.

The AIVD then warned US intelligence about the hack, but it reportedly spied on Cozy Bear for up to 2.5 years, and even had access to a security camera within the Moscow building, where the Russian hackers were based.
"Not only can the intelligence service now see what the Russians are doing, they can also see who's doing it.
Pictures are taken of every visitor," the report said.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/358791/report-dutch-spies-watched-russians-hack-the-dnc?utm_source=zergnet.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_2509577

[pcosmar]

Jan2017

zergnet ?

[pcosmar]

Well, in late December 2017 computer expert Adam Carter did find ]

"Umbrage"

The Central Intelligence Agency now can mimic foreign intelligence agencies’ hack attacks by leaving electronic “fingerprints” creating the false impression of a foreign intrusion into computer networks,

Known tool of the US Government.