United Church of Christ overwhelmingly approves res. against US military aid to Israel

[enhanced_deficit]

Is the Christion Zionism movement in the US fracturing in the aftermath of Iraq, Libya, Syria, Obama, Trump etc?

http://desertpeace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/child-prisoners.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=MenQW9XOVhJjbM&tbnid=_vKM6i2KjLbSJM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdesertpeace.wordpress.com%2F2010% 2F03%2F14%2Famerica-is-oblivious-to-palestinian-child-prisoners%2F&ei=nuUGU6H8K4zMkAeW34CoAg&bvm=bv.61725948,d.eW0&psig=AFQjCNFJTjg9JdY1QO1HHsHlwgnBHRGswA&ust=1393047195931772)http://www.islamicinvitationturkey.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/0C08161884.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=usltv_X6w3bg-M&tbnid=dZCBwJ0WmNjwnM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.islamicinvitationturkey.com%2 F2013%2F09%2F19%2Finhuman-zionist-creatures-kidnap-child-in-al-khalil%2F&ei=E-YGU-CuJof7kQey4oHgBA&bvm=bv.61725948,d.eW0&psig=AFQjCNFJTjg9JdY1QO1HHsHlwgnBHRGswA&ust=1393047195931772)

United Church Of Christ Condemns Israel For Treatment Of Palestinian Children (http://forward.com/fast-forward/376142/united-church-of-christ-condemns-israel-treatment-palestinian-children/)

July 3, 2017 By JTA

(JTA) — The United Church of Christ overwhelmingly approved a resolution condemning Israel for its treatment of Palestinian children.
The vote Sunday night by delegates at the 31st General Synod of the United Church of Christ in Baltimore was 79 percent in favor, 13 percent against and 9 percent abstaining, according to a statement issued by the UCC.
The resolution (http://www.uccpin.org/copy-of-resolution) calls on Israel to “exercise an absolute prohibition against torture and ill-treatment of detained children.”
It also calls on the United States to withhold military assistance from Israel over what the church says are violations of human rights in its treatment of Palestinian children. The resolution says the churches and members must “learn about the plight of children in Palestine and the State of Israel.”
It comes two years after the church voted to divest from companies that profit from Israel’s control of the West Bank.

Read more: http://forward.com/fast-forward/376142/united-church-of-christ-condemns-israel-treatment-palestinian-children/


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[Swordsmyth]

They will have my respect when they demand an end to ALL foreign aid, have they yet condemned Saudi Arabia?
Until they demand an end to ALL foreign aid they are just leftist anti-semitic hypocrites.

To be clear my position on Israel is to let them fend for themselves, IF GOD thinks they deserve his protection HE will give it to them.

[enhanced_deficit]

To be devil's advocate, they are probably coming from Jesus' childcare values angle and the Church's resolution seems like a religio-political step against the largest recipient of US taxpayers aid .. as opposed to libertarian/non-interventionist doctrine to end aid to all foreign parasites l as you seem to suggest.

I tried to loookup list of top aid recipients living on US taxpayers donations, did not see SA on the list?

U.S. $38B military aid package to Israel sends a message - USA Today
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/09/14/...aid-israel/90358564/
Sep 14, 2016 - WASHINGTON — The United States agreed Wednesday to provide Israel a record $38 billion in new military aid over the next decade.


http://i.imgur.com/A9HYF6N.jpg

[Swordsmyth]

To be devil's advocate, they are probably coming from Jesus' childcare values angle and the Church's resolution seems like a religio-political step against the largest recipient of US taxpayers aid .. as opposed to libertarian/non-interventionist doctrine to end aid to all foreign parasites l as you seem to suggest.

I tried to loookup list of top aid recipients living on US taxpayers donations, did not see SA on the list?

U.S. $38B military aid package to Israel sends a message - USA Today
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/09/14/...aid-israel/90358564/
Sep 14, 2016 - WASHINGTON — The United States agreed Wednesday to provide Israel a record $38 billion in new military aid over the next decade.


http://i.imgur.com/A9HYF6N.jpg

If their objection is political then they should be calling for an end to all foreign aid.
If their objection is moral then SA is far more evil, and SA gets stealth foreign aid from U.S. foreign policy.
And SA was just the first example that came to mind, when they start condemning more places than just Israel I will consider believing that they are sincere.

[jkr]

If their objection is political then they should be calling for an end to all foreign aid.
If their objection is moral then SA is far more evil, and SA gets stealth foreign aid from U.S. foreign policy.
And SA was just the first example that came to mind, when they start condemning more places than just Israel I will consider believing that they are sincere.

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[enhanced_deficit]

If their objection is political then they should be calling for an end to all foreign aid.
If their objection is moral then SA is far more evil, and SA gets stealth foreign aid from U.S. foreign policy.
And SA was just the first example that came to mind, when they start condemning more places than just Israel I will consider believing that they are sincere.

Same zionist lobbies that oppose cutting aid to Israel tend to be the biggest hurdle in cutting aid to other oppressive regimes like Egypt, Jordan, SA etc because they see those autocratic regimes are "allies" of Israel against the popular democratic will of their populations.. so it's sort of bribery and much of it could probably be counted as aid to/for Israel.

AIPAC opposes cuts in Egypt aid
www.jta.org/2013/08/01/news.../aipac-in-senate-letter-opposes-cuts-in-egypt-aid
Aug 1, 2013 - WASHINGTON (JTA) — The American Israel Public Affairs Committee urged the U.S. government not to cut assistance to Egypt. “We do not ...

Panel at AIPAC Blasts Trump's Proposed Foreign Aid Cuts
jewishjournal.com/news/nation/.../panel-aipac-blasts-trumps-proposed-foreign-aid-cut...
Mar 27, 2017 - Panel at AIPAC Blasts Trump's Proposed Foreign Aid Cuts ... “The assistance we give to others for instance Jordan is in Israel's interest ... a robust global foreign assistance and implicitly lobby against the Trump Administration's cuts.

[enhanced_deficit]

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Until they demand an end to ALL foreign aid they are just leftist anti-semitic hypocrites.
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If too many bricks are removed/all foreign aid is ended, that might be be seen as "isolationist" and opposed by by well-funded lobbying groups like ADL/AIPAC.

'America First,' a phrase with a loaded anti-Semitic and isolationist
www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-america-first-20170120-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-america-first-20170120-story.html)
Jan 20, 2017 - Donald Trump has placed at the center of his foreign policy vision the ... 'America First,' a phrase with a loaded anti-Semitic and isolationist ... and despite requests from the Anti-Defamation League that he drop it, ...

Panel at AIPAC Blasts Trump's Proposed Foreign Aid Cuts
jewishjournal.com/news/nation/.../panel-aipac-blasts-trumps-proposed-foreign-aid-cut...
Mar 27, 2017 - Panel at AIPAC Blasts Trump's Proposed Foreign Aid Cuts ... “The assistance we give to others for instance Jordan is in Israel's interest ... a robust global foreign assistance and implicitly lobby against the Trump Administration's cuts.




.. SA gets stealth foreign aid from U.S. foreign policy.


If there are options like "stealth foreign aid", won't it be wise to change massive aid to Israel to stealth mode also to reduce blowback risks like these and reduce TSA checkpoints expenses etc?


9/11 was to punish U.S. for Israel policy: Philip Zelikow 9/11 Commission Exec. Dir. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHely2_KkC4&list=PLfrlsC1yJ2dRtvvzX47VwYbu6X-cQuvMM)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHely2_KkC4&list=PLfrlsC1yJ2dRtvvzX47VwYbu 6X-cQuvMM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHel...VwYbu6X-cQuvMM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHely2_KkC4&list=PLfrlsC1yJ2dRtvvzX47VwYbu6X-cQuvMM)

[Swordsmyth]

If too many bricks are removed/all foreign aid is ended, that might be be seen as "isolationist" and opposed by by well-funded lobbying groups like ADL/AIPAC.

'America First,' a phrase with a loaded anti-Semitic and isolationist
www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-america-first-20170120-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-america-first-20170120-story.html)
Jan 20, 2017 - Donald Trump has placed at the center of his foreign policy vision the ... 'America First,' a phrase with a loaded anti-Semitic and isolationist ... and despite requests from the Anti-Defamation League that he drop it, ...

Panel at AIPAC Blasts Trump's Proposed Foreign Aid Cuts
jewishjournal.com/news/nation/.../panel-aipac-blasts-trumps-proposed-foreign-aid-cut...
Mar 27, 2017 - Panel at AIPAC Blasts Trump's Proposed Foreign Aid Cuts ... “The assistance we give to others for instance Jordan is in Israel's interest ... a robust global foreign assistance and implicitly lobby against the Trump Administration's cuts.





If there are options like "stealth foreign aid", won't it be wise to change massive aid to Israel to stealth mode also to reduce blowback risks like these and reduce TSA checkpoints expenses etc?


9/11 was to punish U.S. for Israel policy: Philip Zelikow 9/11 Commission Exec. Dir. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHely2_KkC4&list=PLfrlsC1yJ2dRtvvzX47VwYbu6X-cQuvMM)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHely2_KkC4&list=PLfrlsC1yJ2dRtvvzX47VwYbu 6X-cQuvMM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHel...VwYbu6X-cQuvMM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHely2_KkC4&list=PLfrlsC1yJ2dRtvvzX47VwYbu6X-cQuvMM)

Who cares what AIPAC thinks?
And Israel gets stealth foreign aid from U.S. foreign policy as well as overt Tribute.

[Swordsmyth]

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But this is the only brick they care about.
The libs in left wing Christianity are only anti-Israel because it is PC. Muslims are IN Judaism and Christianity are OUT, being a church they can't openly reject Christianity so they throw the Jews to the Lions hoping that they will get a pass for their titular Christianity for doing so.

[phill4paul]

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I attended a Trinity Reformed United Chuch of Christ service the week before last.

First time I stepped into a church 30 years. I found them friendly, gracious hosts.

I went there because my missus' cousins niece had spent a year in Jordan teaching Syrian refugees English.

Her testimony was enlightening.

They want to go home.
They do not want to immigrate.
They invited her to their homes and used over one quarter of their food allotment to prepare a dinner "worthy"of their teachers presence.
The divide between Christian and Muslim never came up in discussion. Only similarities.
Before now Christians were community members. No different than a synagogue in Catholic Boston.
They don't hate Americans. God save the innocent for they know not what we have done.

[unknown]

They will have my respect when they demand an end to ALL foreign aid, have they yet condemned Saudi Arabia?
Until they demand an end to ALL foreign aid they are just leftist anti-semitic hypocrites.

To be clear my position on Israel is to let them fend for themselves, IF GOD thinks they deserve his protection HE will give it to them.

I agree with ending all foreign welfare but iZrael has a long standing history of genocide, collective punishment, use of chemical weapons etc.

[Ender]

But this is the only brick they care about.


It's because THIS brick basically runs the whole ME show. They are never held accountable for anything- not even having about 400 nuclear warheads w/o ever signing the Non-Proliferation Treaty.

[TheCount]

But this is the only brick they care about.

Yeah, I mean who would tear down a wall by starting with the largest brick?

[enhanced_deficit]

Speaking of bricks, they have a pretty nice wall... not sure which country's taxpayers paid for it.

http://russia-insider.com/sites/insider/files/Israel-Wall.jpg






Who cares what AIPAC thinks?
And Israel gets stealth foreign aid from U.S. foreign policy as well as overt Tribute.

Do you have any credible source showing how much stealth aid per year goes to Israel and Saudi Arabia from US taxpayers pockets without their knowledge?

[Swordsmyth]

Speaking of bricks, they have a pretty nice wall... not sure which country's taxpayers paid for it.

http://russia-insider.com/sites/insider/files/Israel-Wall.jpg







Do you have any credible source showing how much stealth aid per year goes to Israel and Saudi Arabia from US taxpayers pockets without their knowledge?

I am referring to our Mid-east foreign policy and wars, which are conducted for their benefit and cost us greatly.

[enhanced_deficit]

I am referring to our Mid-east foreign policy and wars, which are conducted for their benefit and cost us greatly.

Are you suggesting wars like Iraq, Syria (that have cost US taxpayers $4-6 Trillions) were for benefit of Israel and Saudi Arabia?
That would be huge stealth foreign aid that has caused massive debt for each American and could seriously damage to US economy.
Or you are referring to some other mideast wars.

Most people that Iraq war was started because Iraq had WMDs.

[Swordsmyth]

Are you suggesting wars like Iraq, Syria (that have cost US taxpayers $4-6 Trillions) were for benefit of Israel and Saudi Arabia?
That would be huge stealth foreign aid that has caused massive debt for each American and could seriously damage to US economy.
Or you are referring to some other mideast wars.

Most people that Iraq war was started because Iraq had WMDs.

Iraq and Syria.

[unknown]

Are you suggesting wars like Iraq, Syria (that have cost US taxpayers $4-6 Trillions) were for benefit of Israel and Saudi Arabia?
That would be huge stealth foreign aid that has caused massive debt for each American and could seriously damage to US economy.
Or you are referring to some other mideast wars.

Most people that Iraq war was started because Iraq had WMDs.

I think theres the natural resources and military spending motives but iZrael is also a major benefactor.

Not necessarily to the degree of this pic, but it would seem that TPTB want that region emptied.

http://i.imgur.com/QhtXfKD.jpg