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Madison320
06-29-2017, 08:01 AM
As far as I can tell it'd be 100%. Which makes me wonder who is setting up the "scoring" system. Karl Marx?

jllundqu
06-29-2017, 08:38 AM
What would I score it?


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ILUVRP
06-29-2017, 09:00 AM
i think people would be surprised , with universal health care being 10% of gdp in all western world countries using it while our health care it over 17% of gdp .

CaptUSA
06-29-2017, 10:16 AM
i think people would be surprised , with universal health care being 10% of gdp in all western world countries using it while our health care it over 17% of gdp .

That's comparing apples to Buicks. The only way a single-payer system can operate anywhere is if there is a market-based system somewhere else. The US is one of the last... If we were to go single-payer, health care would collapse everywhere. People who say this, don't understand the implications.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
06-29-2017, 10:23 AM
What is the origin of this term single payer? Isn't this just a government run system? Why not say government run system? Oh, I know; you have to have a permit to do it and single payer sounds better to the tee vee audience.

CaptUSA
06-29-2017, 10:30 AM
What is the origin of this term single payer? Isn't this just a government run system? Why not say government run system? Oh, I know; you have to have a permit to do it and single payer sounds better to the tee vee audience.

Why do they call it "public" school???

Madison320
06-29-2017, 03:50 PM
That's comparing apples to Buicks. The only way a single-payer system can operate anywhere is if there is a market-based system somewhere else. The US is one of the last... If we were to go single-payer, health care would collapse everywhere. People who say this, don't understand the implications.

You didn't just say that the US system is market based did you?

Madison320
06-29-2017, 04:03 PM
Am I the only one who is bothered by the way the CBO (and everyone else) "scores" healthcare? As far as I can tell the ONLY metric is how many people are covered. Cost doesn't matter. Quality doesn't matter. And FOR SURE individual rights don't matter. Basically the game is already lost when the scoring system rewards socialism. Both parties are trying to get a high CBO score, but the highest CBO score would go to universal health care since in that case everyone is covered.

I remember seeing some sort of economic ranking a few years ago, I think it was the UN or some other globalist group. The most important metric was equality, not quality. It didn't matter how free the country was, or prosperous. Only how EQUAL everyone was. The CBO ranking of healthcare reminds me of that.

CPUd
06-29-2017, 05:07 PM
Am I the only one who is bothered by the way the CBO (and everyone else) "scores" healthcare? As far as I can tell the ONLY metric is how many people are covered. Cost doesn't matter. Quality doesn't matter. And FOR SURE individual rights don't matter. Basically the game is already lost when the scoring system rewards socialism. Both parties are trying to get a high CBO score, but the highest CBO score would go to universal health care since in that case everyone is covered.

I remember seeing some sort of economic ranking a few years ago, I think it was the UN or some other globalist group. The most important metric was equality, not quality. It didn't matter how free the country was, or prosperous. Only how EQUAL everyone was. The CBO ranking of healthcare reminds me of that.

This one from today is about Medicaid spending:

https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/115th-congress-2017-2018/reports/52859-medicaid.pdf

TheCount
06-29-2017, 07:37 PM
As far as I can tell it'd be 100%. Which makes me wonder who is setting up the "scoring" system. Karl Marx?There is no scoring system.

nikcers
06-29-2017, 07:59 PM
Tevee conflates health insurance with healthcare which is bullshit. We have to come to terms with the fact that the government intervention in healthcare created a market that picks winners and losers and right now the winners are the insurance companies and losers are people who are paying into a system that is removed from the pressures of supply and demand. A system of corporatism or crony capitalism is not capitalism

NorthCarolinaLiberty
06-30-2017, 12:20 AM
...who is setting up the "scoring" system. Karl Marx?

TheCount. Oh wait; you already said Karl Marx. Same thing.