Coconut oil isn't healthy. It's never been healthy.

[angelatc]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/06/16/coconut-oil-isnt-healthy-its-never-been-healthy/402719001/



The Dietary Fats and Cardiovascular Disease advisory reviewed existing data on saturated fat, showing coconut oil increased LDL ("bad") cholesterol in seven out of seven controlled trials. Researchers didn't see a difference between coconut oil and other oils high in saturated fat, like butter, beef fat and palm oil. In fact, 82% of the fat in coconut oil is saturated, according to the data — far beyond butter (63%), beef fat (50%) and pork lard (39%).

"Because coconut oil increases LDL cholesterol, a cause of CVD [cardiovascular disease], and has no known offsetting favorable effects, we advise against the use of coconut oil," the American Heart Association said in the Dietary Fats and Cardiovascular Disease advisory.

Frank Sacks, lead author on the report, said he has no idea why people think coconut oil is healthy. It's almost 100% fat

[timosman]

coconut oil can still be an effective moisturizer or hair conditioner

..

[juleswin]

But saturated fats are less likely to be oxidized than unsaturated fats which means that your body has encounter with DNA damaging free radicals. I stick with saturated fats cos my cholesterol is within normal and I have no history of heart failure in my family even though we used palm oil in just about every thing we cooked. So in the mean time, I will keep my eye on my cholesterol and do everything I can to minimize damage to my DNA :).

[Schifference]

Whatever is bad for you today will be good for you tomorrow and visa versa. I remember reading that cholesterol does not cause heart disease.

[donnay]

Yeah the pHARMa lobbyist were getting concerned that people were getting healthy. :rolleyes: Such deception.




Please Calm Down: Coconut Oil Is Fine

Ryan F. Mandelbaum

Who doesn’t love logging on to the good old ‘net on a Friday morning to the headline “Coconut oil ‘as unhealthy as beef fat and butter.’” It’s got everything. Ah, you might think, my favorite health product is as bad as butter! Or you might even say to yourself, those coconut oil-huffing liberals are really getting what’s coming to them!

No.

This round of panicked news isn’t coming from new data. Instead, the American Heart Association has reviewed the existing data, again reiterating that saturated fats are bad. Coconut oil has been recently touted as a healthier oil, and also the butt of a health nut-bashing meme going around, “If you stir coconut oil into your kale, it makes it easier to scrape into the trash.” To all of this I say: Coconut oil isn’t a health food and it isn’t junk food, it’s just another food. Calm down.

The AHA released a review yesterday because “meta-analyses of observational studies and randomized clinical trials have come to discordant conclusions about the relationship between dietary saturated fat and risk of [cardiovascular disease],” they write, “creating confusion.”

The review is fine. It’s free, easy to read, and you should check it out. The news coverage is not fine and has added to the confusion.

So let’s break it down: Fats are actually a slew of different molecules, stacked in three prongs. Unsaturated fat molecules’ prongs are curly from the presence of a double bond, so they’re liquid at room temperature. Saturated fats’ prongs are straight, so they stack into solids. Trans fats have the double bond but have been straightened (and form solids) through a process called hydrogenation.

The fats you eat like butter, coconut oil, and olive oil are actually a mixture of different fat molecules, both saturated and unsaturated. Coconut oil has lots of saturated fat molecules, but its melting point is just above room temperature.

The AHA looked through lots of scientific studies from people who replaced saturated fat with other things in their diet. The main confusion, they say, comes from the fact that studies replacing saturated fats with carbohydrates saw fewer benefits. Those studies that replaced saturated fats with unsaturated fats found a somewhat lowered cardiovascular disease risk. After all of this work, I think they’ve done a convincing job showing that replacing saturated fats with unsaturated fats can have a benefit for reducing the risk of cardiovascular disease.

They don’t say whether eating more saturated fats will increase your risk, though.

I’m here to talk about coconut oil. Only a handful of studies in the AHA report deal with coconut oil specifically. The large-scale trials don’t detail what kind of saturated fats folks were eating, but I have a hunch that coconut oil wasn’t Finnish hospital patients’ main source of saturated fat—they were probably eating more meat and butter. The coconut oil studies that the AHA does cite show that it raises both HDL (what people call “good”) cholesterol and LDL (what people call “bad” cholesterol).

The studies don’t link eating more coconut oil to heart disease—they link it to a changing cholesterol metric. A metric that, if you look for it, has lots of conflicting data as to how it makes things worse and how badly (may I point you to Gary Taubes’ Good Calories, Bad Calories).

So, coconut oil is fine. It’s not fantastic. It’s not horrible. It’s just a source of saturated fat probably not as bad as butter. Which we also don’t think is that bad.

The AHA’s conclusions are that you shouldn’t try to lower your total fat intake, but instead, replace saturated fat with unsaturated fat, combined with a healthier lifestyle.

But this is what everyone has been saying all along, because the ultimate message is to basically just eat less meat and dessert, eat more vegetables, and don’t overdo it with the coconut oil.
http://gizmodo.com/please-calm-down-coconut-oil-is-fine-1796163542

Abstracts from Peer Reviewed Literature on Coconut Oil and Derivatives
http://coconutoil.com/peer_reviewed/

[William Tell]

Researchers didn't see a difference between coconut oil and other oils high in saturated fat, like butter, beef fat and palm oil. In fact, 82% of the fat in coconut oil is saturated, according to the data — far beyond butter (63%), beef fat (50%) Woah, so coconut oil has even more of the good stuff than butter which is of course awesome? Guess I need more coconut oil!

[Brian4Liberty]

Woah, so coconut oil has even more of the good stuff than butter which is of course awesome? Guess I need more coconut oil!

But does it have electrolytes?

[Zippyjuan]

Yeah the pHARMa lobbyist were getting concerned that people were getting healthy. :rolleyes: Such deception.




http://gizmodo.com/please-calm-down-coconut-oil-is-fine-1796163542

Abstracts from Peer Reviewed Literature on Coconut Oil and Derivatives
http://coconutoil.com/peer_reviewed/

Article doesn't say it is healthier than other fats. Moderation in everything. And exercise.


Coconut oil isn’t a health food and it isn’t junk food,


The AHA’s conclusions are that you shouldn’t try to lower your total fat intake, but instead, replace saturated fat with unsaturated fat, combined with a healthier lifestyle.

[Keith and stuff]

The anti-health lobby is lying and the media is helping them. Sad. :(

[donnay]

The anti-health lobby is lying and the media is helping them. Sad. :(

https://s14-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.slantmagazine.com% 2Fimages%2Fmade%2Fassets%2Ffilm%2Ftheylive_1130_43 0_90_s_c1.jpg&sp=430102011c2eeb92b5151a529f002d71

We have one who can see.

[timosman]

https://s14-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.slantmagazine.com% 2Fimages%2Fmade%2Fassets%2Ffilm%2Ftheylive_1130_43 0_90_s_c1.jpg&sp=430102011c2eeb92b5151a529f002d71

We have one who can see.

Can we get rid of him? What? There is more? How many? What do we do? Let's just pretend they do not exist.

[dannno]

The cholesterol subject is a lot more complicated than they make it out to be in the article, sorry.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/how-to-interpret-cholesterol-test-results/

Coconut oil is fantastic.

Try eating more cococonut oil (and less carbs) and see what it does to your blood triglycerides (they will plummet)

[The Northbreather]

If I remember correctly wasn't the medical community puzzled for a time because the Pacific Islanders who eat large quantities of coconut oil don't have high incidence of heart disease?

[dannno]

If I remember correctly wasn't the medical community puzzled for a time because the Pacific Islanders who eat large quantities of coconut oil don't have high incidence of heart disease?

But muh national vegetable oil association studies..

[donnay]

Cholesterol is a lot more complicated than that, sorry.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/how-to-interpret-cholesterol-test-results/

Coconut oil is fantastic.

Try eating more cococonut oil (and less carbs) and see what it does to your blood triglycerides (they will plummet)

That is exactly what happened to my mother. The doctor asked her if she was taking the cholesterol medicine she prescribed for her and she told the doctor, "NO!." The doctor asked how can her blood triglycerides numbers be in great standing without taking the medication and my mother told her, "Organic cold pressed Coconut oil daily." The doctor shook her head in disbelief, nevertheless.

[Zippyjuan]

If I remember correctly wasn't the medical community puzzled for a time because the Pacific Islanders who eat large quantities of coconut oil don't have high incidence of heart disease?

They do eat more vegetables than the average American. But still:
http://www.world-heart-federation.org/what-we-do/applied-research/rheumatic-heart-disease-demonstration-projects/pacific-islands/


The prevalence of rheumatic heart disease (RHD) in the Pacific Islands is one of the highest in the world. Because they are isolated and few have the capacity to provide heart valve surgery domestically, most Pacific Islands countries spend between 4-12% of their total health budgets sending RHD patients abroad for life-saving heart valve surgery.

[dannno]

They do eat more vegetables than the average American. But still:
http://www.world-heart-federation.org/what-we-do/applied-research/rheumatic-heart-disease-demonstration-projects/pacific-islands/

Were grains being imported to these Pacific Islanders that were being studied?

[The Northbreather]

They do eat more vegetables than the average American. But still:
http://www.world-heart-federation.org/what-we-do/applied-research/rheumatic-heart-disease-demonstration-projects/pacific-islands/
Rhuematic heart disease is caused by untreated scarlet fever and is rare...

Rheumatic heart disease (RHD) is the most common acquired heart disease in children in many countries of the world, especially in developing countries. The global burden of disease caused by rheumatic fever currently falls disproportionately on children living in the developing world, especially where poverty is widespread.

Hmm

Might have also been lower than expected cholesterol?? Can't remember where I saw it.

[angelatc]

They do eat more vegetables than the average American. But still:
http://www.world-heart-federation.org/what-we-do/applied-research/rheumatic-heart-disease-demonstration-projects/pacific-islands/


Were grains being imported to these Pacific Islanders that were being studied?


LOL! Why didn't you ask that when you were under the misguided assumption their lifespans were longer?

[Zippyjuan]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/25/hawaii-life-expectancy_n_3992185.html


Native Hawaiians Have Lower Life Expectancy Than State Average, New Study Says

Life expectancy for Native Hawaiians is 6.2 years lower than the state average, though life expectancy has increased by nearly 12 years since 1950.

Therein lies the “good news, bad news” of a new study published Tuesday.

While much progress has been made to improve the health and quality of life of Native Hawaiians and other Pacific Islanders living in Hawaii, their lives are still shorter than whites and Asians. The “big three” killers are diabetes, obesity and heart disease.

The reasons are multiple, including lower income levels and lack of access to services.

But there’s more good news in the study, published by the John A. Burns School of Medicine: The cultural values and practices that sustained Hawaiians for centuries are key to their continued recovery, including the “healing power” of hula, as one health expert put it, cultural education through charter schools and growing food in a back yard or school garden.

“We are returning to the things we know work well, things our ancestors knew but we have lost,” said Dr. Joseph Keaweaimoku Kaholokula, chairman of the Department of Native Hawaiian Health at the UH medical school.

The study’s many authors want to capitalize on what they say has been tremendous progress in treating Hawaiians, Samoans, Tongans, Chamorro, Micronesians and Filipinos.

While the existence described for Hawaiians and Pacific Islanders is anything but healthy, the study shows promising signs of change:

• The infant mortality rate for Hawaiians and Filipinos have shown “clear improvement” over the past 25 years.
• Over the past decade, Hawaiians have reported greater participation in diabetes self-management activities.
• The number of Hawaiians enrolled in community colleges jumped 53 percent between 1992 and 2010.
• Traditional values have helped many in the Hawaiian community cope with and overcome health challenges.

[The Northbreather]

If I had to eat one everyday I'm going with coconut oil over Spam..

[phill4paul]

Whatever is bad for you today will be good for you tomorrow and visa versa. I remember reading that cholesterol does not cause heart disease.

Every fucking bit of this.

[GunnyFreedom]

LOL! Why didn't you ask that when you were under the misguided assumption their lifespans were longer?

You do understand that rheumatic heart disease is caused by rheumatic fever, and not fats -- saturated or unsaturated -- right? Oils and fats of any kind are simply not relevant to rheumatic heart disease in any way. The disease is caused by the damage from a viral infection.

[CPUd]

If I had to eat one everyday I'm going with coconut oil over Spam..

Spam is a thing in Hawaii today. They first got it from the soldiers stationed there in WWII and turned it into a local dish. A restaurant there called Zippy's makes a dish called the Zip Pac, with fish, chicken, beef and spam:

http://i.imgur.com/jD5mXQ9.jpg




Spam musubis:

http://i.imgur.com/3UgJYvv.jpg

[juleswin]

This is one way coconuts and all its components are definitely dangerous to you and your family. Just imagine that this man could have easily died at 30s ish and that there would have reduced the life expectancy on Malaysia by .000001 and then we would have Zippy lecturing us about coconut oil using countries have a lower life expectancy :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzys_xef5BE

[follybind]

although using coconut oil may have a few health benefits, none of the claims have been properly researched or proven yet. Better know the pros and cons of coconut oil https://www.choice.com.au/food-and-drink/nuts-and-oils/oils/articles/is-coconut-oil-healthy

[angelatc]

You do understand that rheumatic heart disease is caused by rheumatic fever, and not fats -- saturated or unsaturated -- right? Oils and fats of any kind are simply not relevant to rheumatic heart disease in any way. The disease is caused by the damage from a viral infection.

I just wonder why Dannno didn't point that out instead of fabricating a theory about why his theory wasn't panning out?

[oyarde]

If you are going to get at least half naked , oil yourself up by the fire in the moonlight I guess coconut oil will work if you are out of bear grease.

[sparebulb]

They do eat more vegetables than the average American. But still:
http://www.world-heart-federation.org/what-we-do/applied-research/rheumatic-heart-disease-demonstration-projects/pacific-islands/

More fake news from Zippy.

More neg rep for him.

He really should go away.

[sparebulb]

Spam is a thing in Hawaii today. They first got it from the soldiers stationed there in WWII and turned it into a local dish. A restaurant there called Zippy's makes a dish called the Zip Pac, with fish, chicken, beef and spam:]

If our Zippy had a restaurant, every meal would be a shat entree with a side of shat.

[Chester Copperpot]

If I remember correctly wasn't the medical community puzzled for a time because the Pacific Islanders who eat large quantities of coconut oil don't have high incidence of heart disease?

yeah my dad is in the traditional medical community and is aware of the studies ive read too and its basically a different POV. Pacific Islanders who eat large quantities of coconut oil do not have any high incidence of heart disease... However when they come to America and eat coconut oil and also eat the typical SAD diet they do have high incidence of heart disease... The general contention is that the eating of the coconut is causing the problem whereas I disagree and believe the McDonalds they are eating is causing the problem.

But trying to get some traditionally schooled doctor to see it from my POV is like trying to get an eqyptologist to look at the possibility that somebody else made the pyramids and the eqyptians just happened to come across them.

[Chester Copperpot]

You do understand that rheumatic heart disease is caused by rheumatic fever, and not fats -- saturated or unsaturated -- right? Oils and fats of any kind are simply not relevant to rheumatic heart disease in any way. The disease is caused by the damage from a viral infection.

you must spread some reputation around before giving it to gunnyfreedom again

[Chester Copperpot]

Whatever is bad for you today will be good for you tomorrow and visa versa. I remember reading that cholesterol does not cause heart disease.

This much is certainly true.

[Working Poor]

It really bothers me that people are not enough in touch with their bodies to know without some kind of expensive test that something is not good for them. I love coconut oil and butter and until my body tells me not to use it there is no written or spoken word that will make me stop.

The reason I don't eat meat is because it makes me feel horrible. Do most people not sense it when something is not good for them? I can't imagine how that feels to not know ones own body.

[Chester Copperpot]

It really bothers me that people are not enough in touch with their bodies to know without some kind of expensive test that something is not good for them. I love coconut oil and butter and until my body tells me not to use it there is no written or spoken word that will make me stop.

The reason I don't eat meat is because it makes me feel horrible. Do most people not sense it when something is not good for them? I can't imagine how that feels to not know ones own body.

I agree.. this should be the basic premise for things. if you feel terrible eating meat then dont eat it.. if you feel good eating grains then eat them etc etc.

[dannno]

I just wonder why Dannno didn't point that out instead of fabricating a theory about why his theory wasn't panning out?

Who cares? The point is when they study natives who still eat their native diet, that is completely different from studying a native population that has a modern diet with imported grains.

Average lifespan in year is also faulty when comparing natives that live a native lifestyle vs. a modern lifestyle. You want to compare the average lifespan of those who make it past, say, age 30.

[Zippyjuan]

Coconut is just the latest trendy oil. Other oils have been popular because they were supposed to be better for you too. Corn, canola, grapeseed, peanut, olive. They all have some good properties.

[angelatc]

Who cares? The point is when they study natives who still eat their native diet, that is completely different from studying a native population that has a modern diet with imported grains.

Average lifespan in year is also faulty when comparing natives that live a native lifestyle vs. a modern lifestyle. You want to compare the average lifespan of those who make it past, say, age 30.

So you're saying they should cherry pick their subjects? Find only people living longer while embracing a modern lifestyle only eating like a primitive. OK. I'd be interested in seeing that.

[angelatc]

Coconut is just the latest trendy oil. Other oils have been popular because they were supposed to be better for you too. Corn, canola, grapeseed, peanut, olive. They all have some good properties.



Coconut oil is out. These are the oils you should be using, experts say! (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/06/20/coconut-oil-out-these-oils-you-should-using-experts-say/412393001/)

^^ USA Today. Old Snake oil is out! Here's some new Snake Oil!!!

[dannno]

So you're saying they should cherry pick their subjects? Find only people living longer while embracing a modern lifestyle only eating like a primitive. OK. I'd be interested in seeing that.

Uh, that's not what I said at all.

To summarize, the conversation began with someone saying that native people had lower incidents of heart attack and it was related to the coconut oil. I dunno how much coconut oil natives ate, but I do know that natives tend to have much healthier diets than people with modern lifestyles, although they face many additional obstacles that may kill them. Then the toolbuckets came in and posted something about natives who had higher incidents of heart attack. I asked whether those natives being studied that had higher incidents of heart attack were eating a lot of imported grain - because poor natives who become dependent on their colonists often end up subsisting on grains rather than eating the diet their ancestors ate, which took hours of difficult work hunting, fishing and gathering coconuts from tall trees.

But back to the point, natives who live to age 30 tend to live as long or longer than people in modern times who also live to at least age 30. However if you take the average age of death of all natives, it is much lower because they have a much harder time keeping babies and young children alive. That is why when toolbags say that natives don't live as long, this says little or nothing about the health of their diet or how long their diet will keep them alive and much more about their environment as a whole. By taking the average age of death of those who live past 30 out of the natives, and comparing it to the average age of death of those who live past 30 in modern societies, we can get a better idea of how fast their diet kills them, as opposed to childhood illnesses and such.

[dannno]

Coconut oil is out. These are the oils you should be using, experts say! (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/06/20/coconut-oil-out-these-oils-you-should-using-experts-say/412393001/)

^^ USA Today. Old Snake oil is out! Here's some new Snake Oil!!!

USA Today "experts" have nothing to do with ANYBODY here who is giving dietary advice to eat coconut oil. To try and deceive forum members into thinking that is completely ridiculous.

Olive oil and avocado oil are good, we have always known that avocados and olives had relatively healthy fats for being plant based. But they are still not as good for you as coconut oil. That is never going to change.

[Zippyjuan]

USA Today "experts" have nothing to do with ANYBODY here who is giving dietary advice to eat coconut oil. To try and deceive forum members into thinking that is completely ridiculous.

Olive oil and avocado oil are good, we have always known that avocados and olives had relatively healthy fats for being plant based. But they are still not as good for you as coconut oil. That is never going to change.

Evidence? (avocado and olive oils have high amounts of unsaturated fats).

http://blog.anytimefitness.com/olive-oil-coconut-oil-avocado-oil-one-best/


What’s Good About It:

If you like coconut, it adds a wonderful coconut flavor to dishes! From a health standpoint, the benefits of coconut oil are fraught with controversy. Load one article, and it’ll tell you to eat coconut oil by the spoonful. Load the next, and it’ll tell you to never eat coconut oil again. We need more research to prove who is correct! Proponents of coconut oil say that it can help reduce your risk of Alzheimer’s Disease, reduce your risk of heart disease, and help balance your hormones. Studies have proven that coconut oil can help boost HDL (“good”) cholesterol, but more research is needed to determine if that boost is beneficial long-term.

What’s Not So Good About It:

Many healthcare professionals point to the high saturated fat content (about 90%, compared to 63% for butter) as a reason to stay away from coconut oil in large amounts. Lovers of coconut oil say that it is a different kind of saturated fat that is actually beneficial for your body—and that the vast array of other benefits outweigh any negatives. Again, there haven’t been definitive studies to prove either way.

[dannno]

Evidence? (avocado and olive oils have high amounts of unsaturated fats).

http://blog.anytimefitness.com/olive-oil-coconut-oil-avocado-oil-one-best/

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/saturated-fat-healthy/

[Zippyjuan]

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/saturated-fat-healthy/

Article is not a study comparing avocado, olive, and coconut oils. But thanks anyways. All have good properties. None will kill you (unless you consume excessive amounts) and none will make you live forever. Focus on a varied diet- not a few allegedly "super foods". Every type of food can be considered a "super food" in some way.

If "consuming saturated fats" won't kill you, the inverse is not necessarily true- that "consuming saturated fats is the best thing for you".

[dannno]

Article is not a study comparing avocado, olive, and coconut oils. But thanks anyways. All have good properties. None will kill you (unless you consume excessive amounts) and none will make you live forever. Focus on a varied diet- not a few allegedly "super foods". Every type of food can be considered a "super food" in some way.

If "consuming saturated fats" won't kill you, the inverse is not necessarily true- that "consuming saturated fats is the best thing for you".

I was responding to your comment regarding the claim that unsaturated fats are considered healthier, I provided data showing that saturated fats are healthy.

Here's a comparison, there are scientific studies that backup the claims regarding these oils:

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/healthy-oils/

(http://www.marksdailyapple.com/healthy-oils/)

[Zippyjuan]

I was responding to your comment regarding the claim that unsaturated fats are considered healthier, I provided data showing that saturated fats are healthy.

Here's a comparison, there are scientific studies that backup the claims regarding these oils:

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/healthy-oils/

(http://www.marksdailyapple.com/healthy-oils/)

"No worse than" is not necessarily "better". (Article doesn't present any evidence it is "better"- only that that the author "prefers" it).

Is olive oil bad?


Olive oil got a pretty good breakdown last year, so unless I’m leaving out some recent momentous news breaking out of the highly secretive olive oil world, there’s not much more to say. It’s a delicious salad oil, a decent sautéing oil, and it can even be used as moisturizer and shaving lotion. Olive oil is one area where CW gets it right. Enjoy this one, and keep a bottle of extra virgin, cold pressed olive oil on hand for salad dressings. It also does a decent job standing up to heat, but will lose it’s delicate flavors if heated too high. This is a good enough reason for me to use a different fat/oil when cooking at high temps. (Why waste precious (and often expensive!) olive oil when lard, for instance, will do the trick?)

or avocado oil?

Avocado

Who doesn’t love a plump avocado with the right amount of give? If you can’t get your hands on a good one, the next best thing might be a bottle of avocado oil. Its fatty acid profile is similar to that of olive oil, but it has an even higher smoke point, making it a decent choice for cooking. Personally, I still wouldn’t use it for high heat cooking. The light, subtle taste lends itself far better to salad dressing, if you ask me. Buy in dark bottles to minimize oxidation.

Coconut oil healthier?


Coconut

MDA’s darling, coconut oil is truly a star. I went over why yesterday, and in past posts, but the gist of it is this: it’s a tasty, shelf-stable (no hydrogenation required) tropical oil with a ton of saturated fatty acids. In fact, it’s almost purely saturated, which is why most doctors and nutritionists will probably advise against its consumption. Not us, though. We love SFA. The refined coconut oil stands up to heat a bit better, and it doesn’t have a distinctive taste, but I can’t recommend it. Unrefined virgin oil is a murky, cloudy mess – but a delicious, creamy mess. Eat the unrefined by the spoonful.

Main difference seems to be how they handle high temperatures- not which is "healthier".

[dannno]

"No worse than" is not necessarily "better". (Article doesn't present any evidence it is "better"- only that that the author "prefers" it).

Is olive oil bad?



or avocado oil?


Coconut oil healthier?



Main difference seems to be how they handle high temperatures- not which is "healthier".



Coconut MDA’s darling, coconut oil is truly a star. I went over why (http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-wonderful-world-of-coconut-products/) yesterday, and in past posts (http://www.marksdailyapple.com/coconut-oil-health-benefits/), but the gist of it is this: it’s a tasty, shelf-stable (no hydrogenation required) tropical oil with a ton of saturated fatty acids. In fact, it’s almost purely saturated, which is why most doctors and nutritionists will probably advise against its consumption. Not us, though. We love SFA (http://www.marksdailyapple.com/saturated-fat-healthy/). The refined coconut oil stands up to heat a bit better, and it doesn’t have a distinctive taste, but I can’t recommend it (http://www.marksdailyapple.com/coconut-oil-health-benefits/#refined). Unrefined virgin oil is a murky, cloudy mess – but a delicious, creamy mess. Eat the unrefined by the spoonful.
6.2% MUFA
1.6% PUFA
92.1% SFA





Olive (and variations) Olive oil got a pretty good breakdown (http://www.marksdailyapple.com/is-all-olive-oil-created-equal/) last year, so unless I’m leaving out some recent momentous news breaking out of the highly secretive olive oil world, there’s not much more to say. It’s a delicious salad oil, a decent sautéing oil, and it can even be used as moisturizer and shaving lotion. Olive oil is one area where CW (http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-definitive-guide-to-conventional-wisdom/) gets it right. Enjoy this one, and keep a bottle of extra virgin, cold pressed olive oil on hand for salad dressings (http://www.marksdailyapple.com/10-delicious-diy-salad-dressings/). It also does a decent job standing up to heat, but will lose it’s delicate flavors if heated too high. This is a good enough reason for me (http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/showthread.php?224-Incorrect-claim-about-Olive-Oil-in-PB) to use a different fat/oil when cooking at high temps. (Why waste precious (and often expensive!) olive oil when lard, for instance, will do the trick?)
73% MUFA
3.5-21% Omega-6 PUFA
1% Omega-3 PUFA (not even worth mentioning, really)
14% SFA




Avocado Who doesn’t love a plump avocado with the right amount of give? If you can’t get your hands on a good one, the next best thing might be a bottle of avocado oil. Its fatty acid profile is similar to that of olive oil, but it has an even higher smoke point, making it a decent choice for cooking. Personally, I still wouldn’t use it for high heat cooking. The light, subtle taste lends itself far better to salad dressing, if you ask me. Buy in dark bottles to minimize oxidation.
70% MUFA
12% Omega-6 PUFA
1% Omega-3 PUFA
12% SFA..

[euphemia]

Coconut is just the latest trendy oil. Other oils have been popular because they were supposed to be better for you too. Corn, canola, grapeseed, peanut, olive. They all have some good properties.

We have used coconut oil for years at our house because we like it for various uses. It is the very best for pancakes. Yum.

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[donnay]

Coconut Oil For Eczema

You should use coconut oil for the treatment of eczema because it moisturizes the skin, helps to retain moisture, prevents infections from developing, speeds the healing process and boosts the immune response. In fact, this oil is considered to be one of the best natural options for reducing the severity of eczema, or eliminating it entirely.

Eczema occurs when the skin fails to create enough oil, which allows moisture to escape. Skin cells become dehydrated, and the space between them is the perfect breeding ground for various irritants, pollutants and pathogens, which quickly leads to flaky skin, irritation, itchiness, cracked skin, and unsightly inflammation. Coconut oil has a number of antibacterial, anti-fungal and antiviral effects that can protect the exposed areas of skin caused by the dehydration process. Furthermore, coconut oil is a natural moisturizer, so it can help the skin lock in the moisture it needs for proper function.

The active ingredients in coconut oil, such as vitamin E and K, as well as volatile organic acids, help to stimulate the regrowth of new cells and prevent the negative effects of free radicals and oxidative stress. As a whole, the effect of coconut oil on the skin is smoother, healthier and less irritated skin that is far less susceptible to future inflammation from eczema.

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How To Use Coconut Oil For Eczema
You can use coconut oil in the form of a pure moisturizer, as a cleansing element in a warm bath, combined with other carrier oils, or prepared into a salve or cream. Coconut Oil Face masks are also quite popular for people wanting to clear up patches of eczema on their most visible areas.

Two of the most popular options are adding an entire cup of coconut oil to the bathtub and then allowing your entire body to soak up the benefits, or heating up a few tablespoons of the oil before mixing it with oatmeal and dumping it in the bath. These can provide full-body skin treatment, leaving you relaxed and rejuvenated!

As a pure moisturizer, this oil can be applied in a thin layer on any part of the body, but the most common areas for eczema are on the arms, legs, back and upper chest. Apply the oil three times each day, or apply before bed and wash thoroughly in the morning. Applying the oil directly after a bath is also quite effective, as your pores will be open and clean, making them even more receptive to the healing nutrients of the oil.

Coconut oil bandages, where a piece of gauze is wrapped around an area of the skin covered in coconut oil, are an excellent way to ensure that the oil remains in contact with the skin and does its job, even while you are moving throughout your day, or shifting while you sleep.

How To Use Coconut Oil To Cure Eczema In Babies

Babies often suffer from eczema, but by applying coconut oil after a bath, particularly in the joints, arms and legs, and carefully avoiding the eyes, the eczema symptoms can be mitigated or eliminated entirely. This is best done after organic oatmeal baths or other skin-soothing treatments. Leaving the small amount of oil on overnight can also be an effective choice.

What Type Of Coconut Oil Can Be Used For Eczema?

When treating eczema, always choose unrefined, virgin organic coconut oil. This will be the purest form available, before many of the other nutrients and volatile components are lost through processing. If you want to benefit from the full strength of the volatile and medium-chain fatty acids found in this remedy, spend a bit more money on this 100% pure form of the oil.

Time It Takes To Cure Eczema With Coconut Oil

With daily application, most people see an improvement in eczema symptoms within a few days to a week, particularly if flare-ups are not common. For people who suffer from chronic eczema, it may take slightly longer to get the symptoms under control, perhaps a month or more. Consistency is key if you want to completely rid yourself of eczema.

However, many people use coconut oil on their skin every day as a protective shield against skin conditions like eczema, psoriasis and acne, and it has proven to be an excellent preventative measure.

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[Created4]

Coconut is just the latest trendy oil.

Wrong. Coconut oil is a TRADITIONAL oil that has been in the food chain for THOUSANDS of years. And the research on the health benefits of medium chain fatty acids, found mostly in coconut oil, has been around since the 1960s. But don't let the truth get in your way.

The "trendy" oils are canola, corn, and soy. They have only been in the food chain post WWII when we developed the technology to expeller-press oils from crops we previously never did. Canola is the new kid on the block, as it is genetically modifed rapeseed oil. But "rapeseed" was not an acceptable name to use for an edible oil, and since it was developed in Canada, they renamed it to "Canola".