Mattis: ‘We’re not winning in Afghanistan’

[enhanced_deficit]

Mattis: ‘We’re not winning in Afghanistan’

06/13/17 10:38 AM

Defense Secretary James Mattis told lawmakers on Tuesday that the United States is “not winning” in Afghanistan.

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/337564-mattis-afghanistan-strategy-coming-in-mid-july






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[Suzanimal]

Defense Secretary James Mattis told lawmakers on Tuesday that the United States is “not winning” in Afghanistan.

No shit, Sherlock.


President Trump has reportedly been weighing a request to send 3,000 to 5,000 more U.S. troops to the country to break what top generals have described as a stalemate.

*sigh*

[shakey1]

Mattis: ‘We’re not winning in Afghanistan’

... then, get out.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rtLg5nNP4Q

[Origanalist]

I don't think winning was ever the goal. Maybe someone should fill him in.

[timosman]

I don't think winning was ever the goal. Maybe someone should fill him in.

He definitely needs to have a conversation with the people in charge. His statements are highly irresponsible and can threaten our security.:cool:

[sdsubball23]

Does anyone know what our goal is I'm Afghanistan? If it's to stop terrorism, how is our presence in Afghanistan doing that?

[timosman]

Does anyone know what our goal is I'm Afghanistan? If it's to stop terrorism, how is our presence in Afghanistan doing that?

I hate to break it to you but you are simply not mentally equipped to understand the complexities of our foreign policy. Why don't you let the experts do what they do best and you do the same? Remember paying taxes is very important as otherwise we will fail as a nation. :cool:

[goldenequity]

Conflict News
AFGHANISTAN: President Trump gives US military authority to set Afghan troop levels: US official


(Trump handing MIplex a signed blank check )
#swampthedrain

[CPUd]

Does anyone know what our goal is I'm Afghanistan? If it's to stop terrorism, how is our presence in Afghanistan doing that?

We have to fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here.

[showpan]

Does anyone know what our goal is I'm Afghanistan? If it's to stop terrorism, how is our presence in Afghanistan doing that?

Mattis is lying. We ARE winning. We just need a few more troops to protect the worlds poppy fields. Not a lot more because we don't want to get kicked out with a victory. Oh no...just enough to perpetuate our need to be there. Look at how many OD's are going on in every town and city across America. The morgues are full. Almost every town and city are hiring more cops and the sheep are actually demanding they do. Pharma gets to sell massive amounts of Narcan raising their profits and the price of their shares. The CIA gets boatloads of cash to give to groups like ISIS and nobody can even trace it. While America shoots itself in the arm and dreams this nightmare away, the deep state and more importantly the police state has been accelerated greatly. Afghanistan has absolutely nothing to do with terrorism. If we were to leave, the Taliban would burn the poppy fields and the heroin epidemic would be over.

[enhanced_deficit]

Mattis is lying. We ARE winning. We just need a few more troops to protect the worlds poppy fields. Not a lot more because we don't want to get kicked out with a victory. Oh no...just enough to perpetuate our need to be there. Look at how many OD's are going on in every town and city across America. The morgues are full. Almost every town and city are hiring more cops and the sheep are actually demanding they do. Pharma gets to sell massive amounts of Narcan raising their profits and the price of their shares. The CIA gets boatloads of cash to give to groups like ISIS and nobody can even trace it. While America shoots itself in the arm and dreams this nightmare away, the deep state and more importantly the police state has been accelerated greatly. Afghanistan has absolutely nothing to do with terrorism. If we were to leave, the Taliban would burn the poppy fields and the heroin epidemic would be over.

This sounds like very controversial comment and very contrary to reports in MSM.

[Swordsmyth]

Mattis is lying. We ARE winning. We just need a few more troops to protect the worlds poppy fields. Not a lot more because we don't want to get kicked out with a victory. Oh no...just enough to perpetuate our need to be there. Look at how many OD's are going on in every town and city across America. The morgues are full. Almost every town and city are hiring more cops and the sheep are actually demanding they do. Pharma gets to sell massive amounts of Narcan raising their profits and the price of their shares. The CIA gets boatloads of cash to give to groups like ISIS and nobody can even trace it. While America shoots itself in the arm and dreams this nightmare away, the deep state and more importantly the police state has been accelerated greatly. Afghanistan has absolutely nothing to do with terrorism. If we were to leave, the Taliban would burn the poppy fields and the heroin epidemic would be over.


This sounds like very controversial comment and very contrary to reports in MSM.

And therefore Highly Likely to be true.

[The Northbreather]

Mattis is lying. We ARE winning. We just need a few more troops to protect the worlds poppy fields. Not a lot more because we don't want to get kicked out with a victory. Oh no...just enough to perpetuate our need to be there. Look at how many OD's are going on in every town and city across America. The morgues are full. Almost every town and city are hiring more cops and the sheep are actually demanding they do. Pharma gets to sell massive amounts of Narcan raising their profits and the price of their shares. The CIA gets boatloads of cash to give to groups like ISIS and nobody can even trace it. While America shoots itself in the arm and dreams this nightmare away, the deep state and more importantly the police state has been accelerated greatly. Afghanistan has absolutely nothing to do with terrorism. If we were to leave, the Taliban would burn the poppy fields and the heroin epidemic would be over.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to showpan again.

[unknown]

Mattis: ‘We’re not winning in Afghanistan’

06/13/17 10:38 AM

Defense Secretary James Mattis told lawmakers on Tuesday that the United States is “not winning” in Afghanistan.

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/337564-mattis-afghanistan-strategy-coming-in-mid-july






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Dont forget the skyrocketing suicide rate among the military.

92% of the Afghans in areas where we encounter the most resistance, have never heard of 9/11.

They are simply fighting our invasion and occupation...

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/09/09/survey-reveals-2-percent-young-afghan-men-have-never-heard-11.html


While Mujahid said he was saddened by the attacks, he said he still does not believe Al Qaeda was responsible for "the unfortunate incident" -- and he added that after high hopes for change and prosperity when "the whole world rushed to Afghanistan," expectations have died and "the people are asking: When will the foreigners finally leave?"

[enhanced_deficit]

To be devil's neocons' advocate:
"war is hell" and "people die in wars".
As long we "fight them over there so we don't have to figh them over here", we should not "cut and run".

[CPUd]

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[enhanced_deficit]

CPU, whose t-shirt is that.. did it belong to DGP's pastor of 20 years by any chance whom he had refused to disown?


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[CPUd]

http://i.imgur.com/LnDfhwX.jpg

[Ender]

I don't think winning was ever the goal. Maybe someone should fill him in.

Plus the fact that no one's ever "won" a war in Afghanistan.

[enhanced_deficit]

http://i.imgur.com/LnDfhwX.jpg


Mattis: ‘We’re not winning in Afghanistan’




Memes should have date stamps so we can know the exact order of these two statements. Last thing we want is to lose to wife-beaters.


If press were free, a great debate between this "soldier scholar" and the "CIA Scholar" Michael Scheuer might have been possible:

Michael Scheuer: Israel Is A Cancer On U.S. Foreign Policy (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1409/27/smer.01.html)

And finally, we need to separate ourselves from Israel. It's an enormous drag on American - it's a cancer on American foreign policy.

SMERCONISH: You know that people will hear this and find those words objectionable and say they are our only friend in the Middle East, the only democracy, the only people we can trust in that part, why would we ever turn our backs on the Israelis?

SCHEUER: I find it objectionable to send my college age kids to fight and die so Mrs. Mohammed can vote in an Afghan election and then after all of those kids died to run away and leave the country t go back to the Taliban. I'll take the abuse if people can explain what in the world this political elite is doing to our young people.

SMERCONISH: Michael Scheuer, thank you as always for being here.

SCHEUER: Pleasure, sir.

[Ender]

Memes should have date stamps so we can know the exact order of these two statements. Last thing we want is to lose to wife-beaters.


If press were free, a great debate between this "soldier scholar" and the "CIA Scholar" Michael Scheuer might have been possible:

Michael Scheuer: Israel Is A Cancer On U.S. Foreign Policy (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1409/27/smer.01.html)

And finally, we need to separate ourselves from Israel. It's an enormous drag on American - it's a cancer on American foreign policy.

SMERCONISH: You know that people will hear this and find those words objectionable and say they are our only friend in the Middle East, the only democracy, the only people we can trust in that part, why would we ever turn our backs on the Israelis?

SCHEUER: I find it objectionable to send my college age kids to fight and die so Mrs. Mohammed can vote in an Afghan election and then after all of those kids died to run away and leave the country t go back to the Taliban. I'll take the abuse if people can explain what in the world this political elite is doing to our young people.

SMERCONISH: Michael Scheuer, thank you as always for being here.

SCHEUER: Pleasure, sir.

Unfortunately, the US has a record for destroying all other democracies in the ME and then blaming them for it.

[CPUd]

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[enhanced_deficit]

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That is informartive, though this thread is runing into memeware.

[CPUd]

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[The Rebel Poet]

Plus the fact that no one's ever "won" a war in Afghanistan.
Classic blunder.

https://youtu.be/YmT0_hKSUrw

[Ender]

Classic blunder.

https://youtu.be/YmT0_hKSUrw

"You keep using that word; I don't think it means what you think it means." ;)

[showpan]

That is informartive, though this thread is runing into memeware.

The problem with memes is that most of them are made by somebody who doesn't have an once of respect for truth. These are a great example because technically speaking it was CIA Director Bush who created ISIS, they are merely an offshoot of Al Qaeda and Bush JR helped since they formed in direct response to the invasion of Iraq. Secondly, Obama fired Mattis because he wouldn't shut up about Iran. He is obsessed with attacking them which is why he was undoubtedly chosen by them now. Thirdly, Dear ISIS...I, General Mad Dog Von Fuck Face will pay you large amounts of money and weapons (i'll even flip you some smack) to attack Iran and start some shit there for us. Much more than those Clintons or Bush's ever did. The Obombya era will never end, Sincerely thank you my comrades.