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AuH20
05-31-2017, 05:23 PM
The true leader of the Dwindling Free World. Sorry Trump.

https://www.infowars.com/putin-washington-swamp-preventing-trump-from-effecting-real-change/


“When a person is elected, they may have some ideas. Then people with briefcases arrive, well dressed, wearing dark suits… These people start explaining how things are done. And instantly, everything changes,” Putin elaborated, noting that no administration is able to escape this trap, which significantly narrows its room for maneuver.
timosman
05-31-2017, 06:04 PM
How much have you sold us for? 30 shekels?:cool:
asurfaholic
05-31-2017, 06:23 PM
It's nothing surprising to me but that's a pretty profound thing to read even still.
CPUd
05-31-2017, 06:26 PM
http://i.imgur.com/CUfpV9m.jpg
timosman
05-31-2017, 06:27 PM
http://i.imgur.com/CUfpV9m.jpg

and you like both of them?:cool:
Tywysog Cymru
05-31-2017, 06:34 PM
Putin's Russia isn't free.
CPUd
05-31-2017, 06:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMlsbB33QSc
r3volution 3.0
05-31-2017, 06:47 PM
Putin's Russia isn't free.

Indeed, less so than the US

The Putin quote accurately describes how weak politicians like Trump operate - bowing to behind the scenes pressures.

The implicit and false assumption, however, is that someone who "has ideas," and doesn't bow to those pressures, has good ideas.
AuH20
05-31-2017, 06:51 PM
Putin's Russia isn't free.

Considering where they have started, they have made incredible strides. Russia and the U.S. are like two ships passing in the night. Russia is exploring free market reforms as exhibited by their extremely low personal tax rate.
TheCount
05-31-2017, 07:17 PM
Russia is exploring free market reforms as exhibited by their extremely low personal tax rate.Russian income tax is low because they have a national VAT. Woo, liberty!
timosman
05-31-2017, 07:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP3D1sUSuzg
Tywysog Cymru
05-31-2017, 07:22 PM
Considering where they have started, they have made incredible strides. Russia and the U.S. are like two ships passing in the night. Russia is exploring free market reforms as exhibited by their extremely low personal tax rate.

It's not that hard to be more free than the USSR.
merkelstan
05-31-2017, 07:50 PM
Putin's Russia isn't free.

It depends on the question, "Free from what?"

No country is free as in 'an-cap'. Russia is however free from direct remote-control by The Empire.
r3volution 3.0
05-31-2017, 07:54 PM
Considering where they have started, they have made incredible strides. Russia and the U.S. are like two ships passing in the night. Russia is exploring free market reforms as exhibited by their extremely low personal tax rate.

Russia's certainly more free than under the bolshevik regime, but maybe not by as much as you'd think, and the trend isn't so good. Spending and debt have been increasing in recent years (and not just since the sanctions), and privitization is more or less stalled. By some estimate the Russian state still controls (either on budget or via state owned enterprises) 70% of GDP. Gazprom's annual revenues alone are nearly 10% of GDP, for instance. Seems to me that, after a big boom from de-communization, Russia's marching along the familiar social democratic path (back) to communism, and I don't see Putin fighting against this tendency much more than your typical politician in the West. Best I can say about Putin is that he's not an actual communist (which is important, since there's still a lot of pro-communist sentiment in Russia). As for post-communist states, I'm more optimistic about China, since they haven't yet contracted the democratic disease.
Marenco
05-31-2017, 11:33 PM
Reported to DHS for being a Russian propagandist.










/sarc
UWDude
06-01-2017, 09:07 PM
Russia's certainly more free than under the bolshevik regime, but maybe not by as much as you'd think, and the trend isn't so good. Spending and debt

Russian debt is only $1,068 per citizen.
America's debt is about $56,000 per citizen.

http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/russia
r3volution 3.0
06-01-2017, 09:27 PM
Russian debt is only $1,068 per citizen.
America's debt is about $56,000 per citizen.

http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/russia

https://i.imgur.com/ZO13NCw.png
TheCount
06-01-2017, 10:39 PM
Russian debt is only $1,068 per citizen.
America's debt is about $56,000 per citizen.

http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/russia

Russia borrowed money through its state-owned companies like Gazprom rather than as a nation after it defaulted in 1998 and no one wanted to lend money to them.

Also, state ownership of the private sector, woo!
goldenequity
06-01-2017, 11:51 PM
The Putin Interviews | 'Vladimir Putin on Edward Snowden' Official Clip w/ Oliver Stone | SHOWTIME

The Putin Interviews, a four-night event beginning June 12th at 9PM ET/PT, only on SHOWTIME.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD4eIM-8Vrc





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2cJXEWkt60


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Megyn Kelly Talks To Russians About The US, Interviews Pres. Putin On Friday | NBC Nightly News
Published on Jun 1, 2017
In Russia on Thursday, Megyn Kelly talked with Russians about their views on the US and Pres. Trump,
and spoke with Pres. Putin ahead of their interview Friday.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9hu9EXSTso