Pro-Trump Congressional Candidate Body Slams Guardian Journalist?

[dannno]

The night before the special election.. (Montana)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=34&v=KQwu4wff7lI

[dannno]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HniKDoDGMQw

[CPUd]

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https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/867600063756996608

[Origanalist]

I'm kinda ok with it, if he starts body slamming progressive politicians I'll go over and fund raise and door to door for him.

[CPUd]

It won't really affect the results, most people have already voted.

[Origanalist]

It won't really affect the results, most people have already voted.

I'll do it anyway.

[specsaregood]

I'm confused, all I see is a static picture and some dialogue. weak.

[CPUd]

I'm confused, all I see is a static picture and some dialogue. weak.

There was a Fox News crew who got it on video. Hasn't been released yet.

[CPUd]

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https://twitter.com/gdebenedetti/status/867599715440787456

[dannno]

There was a Fox News crew who got it on video. Hasn't been released yet.

How long do ya give 'em :confused:

[H. E. Panqui]

originalist writes: "I'm kinda ok with it, if he starts body slamming progressive politicians.."

:cool:

...i guess i just don't get people using 'progressive' as a perjorative...firstly, in the minds of many, it paints you as a 'regressive'...and although you may want 'go back to the/some good :rolleyes: old days' i'm here to tell you i surely do not...

...as one wag put it, ''freedom' is just another word used by republicrat dummies who don't know what a dollar is...'

...it seems if anyone needs to have their thick skull slammed it's this miserable montana republican puppet-candidate...

[tod evans]

I'm kinda ok with it, if he starts body slamming progressive politicians I'll go over and fund raise and door to door for him.

I'm good with it too!

Beat the hell out of the opposing side, this guy didn't go far enough.

The lisping 'fella' could still lisp semi-coherently...

[enhanced_deficit]

Even if claim about this reporter invading a separate private interview is valid and this reporter has questionable history, was use of physical force really necessary?



Related

The Guardian’s Ben Jacobs Caught Sliming Trump with Out-of-Context Quote (http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/11/07/guardian-ben-jacobs-caught-sliming-trump-with-out-of-context-quote/)


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[specsaregood]

There was a Fox News crew who got it on video. Hasn't been released yet.

Strange that, implies to me that the claim/headline is more sensationalist/interesting than the video of the event itself.

edit: Gianforte should say that the "journalist" grabbed his cock.

[anaconda]

Gianforte refutes "The Official Story:"

https://www.conservativedailynews.com/2017/05/gianforte-refutes-body-slam-story-statement/

[enhanced_deficit]

No... then war leaning media's headlines would say "Hommophobic Republican attacks passionate investigative reporter".

[anaconda]

Trump bodyslams Vince McMahon:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzXuMC08fPY

[anaconda]

I want to see much more body slamming in the future. Especially between the main stream media and the politicians. I'd be pleased to see Cabinet members also included. And judiciary. Private sector challenges, too.

[Origanalist]

originalist writes: "I'm kinda ok with it, if he starts body slamming progressive politicians.."

:cool:

...i guess i just don't get people using 'progressive' as a perjorative...firstly, in the minds of many, it paints you as a 'regressive'...and although you may want 'go back to the/some good :rolleyes: old days' i'm here to tell you i surely do not...

...as one wag put it, ''freedom' is just another word used by republicrat dummies who don't know what a dollar is...'

...it seems if anyone needs to have their thick skull slammed it's this miserable montana republican puppet-candidate...

Shirley you jest.

And on this forum the way to qoute someone is to either click on 'Reply With Quote' or put a @ symbol in front of their screen name so they know they've been quoted. Otherwise its talking behind their back like a progressive weasel.

[Origanalist]

Even if claim about this reporter invading a separate private interview is valid and this reporter has questionable history, was use of physical force really necessary?



Related

The Guardian’s Ben Jacobs Caught Sliming Trump with Out-of-Context Quote (http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/11/07/guardian-ben-jacobs-caught-sliming-trump-with-out-of-context-quote/)

Would you have been more accepting of it if security had escorted him out and then body slammed him?

[specsaregood]

Gianforte refutes "The Official Story:"

https://www.conservativedailynews.com/2017/05/gianforte-refutes-body-slam-story-statement/

Especially strange that the fox crew claims the candidate got on top and was punching the "journalist"; but even the journalist didn't claim that.
That and lack of video smells of a last minute smear job. Is this guy actually a good candidate then?

[tod evans]

Would you have been more accepting of it if security had escorted him out and then body slammed him?

You need to learn to be more tolerant!

Yuppie lisping 'reporters' have every 'right' to barge into your private office and interrupt, badger and try to record your reaction....:rolleyes:

[Origanalist]

You need to learn to be more tolerant!

Yuppie lisping 'reporters' have every 'right' to barge into your private office and interrupt, badger and try to record your reaction....:rolleyes:

Well, he does have a "badge".

[tod evans]

Well, he does have a "badge".

Now he can wear the badge of shame.......(lumps)

[enhanced_deficit]

Would you have been more accepting of it if security had escorted him out and then body slammed him?


His security staff could have followed DGP's staff's example.


http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/1641/slide_1641_22544_large.jpg



Kicking & Screaming: Journo Dragged From Near Air Force One

By CHRISTINA HOAG


Lee attempted to give President Obama a letter.

A reporter for a small newspaper was forcibly removed from a press area near Air Force One shortly before President Barack Obama arrived at Los Angeles International Airport to depart California early Thursday.
Airport security officers carried the woman away by the feet and arms as she protested her removal.
She later identified herself as Brenda Lee, a writer for the Georgia Informer in Macon and said she has White House press credentials. The newspaper's Web site says it is a monthly publication, and a Brenda Lee column is posted on it.
Calls to the newspaper and the White House press office were not immediately returned.


Source: Kicking & Screaming: Journo Dragged From Near Air Force One | NBC4 Washington (http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/archive/Reporter-Dragged-Kicking-and-Screaming-From-Near-Air-Force-One-.html#ixzz4i5zJUMRA) http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/archive/Reporter-Dragged-Kicking-and-Screaming-From-Near-Air-Force-One-.html# (http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/archive/Reporter-Dragged-Kicking-and-Screaming-From-Near-Air-Force-One-.html#ixzz4i5zJUMRA)

[Origanalist]

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[CPUd]

http://i.imgur.com/ngrmevt.jpg

[dannno]

Is this guy actually a good candidate then?

Don Jr. was backing him, which is a pretty good sign.. a bit more informative than "Trump supporter"

[CPUd]

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https://twitter.com/TomNamako/status/867737914045861889

[RonPaulMall]

Will be interesting to see how this plays out. Has America finally reached the point where they understand that the media deserves to be beaten and body slammed and that we need people like this in office? Or is Montana still sufficiently cucked that this will hurt him?

[dannno]

But will this help his election bid :confused:

[Dr.3D]

Will Trump help with his legal bills?

[JK/SEA]

gotta nip this in the bud, otherwise Spicer will think he can start throat punching the PROGRESSIVE liberal communist socialist fucktard media.

[anaconda]

But will this help his election bid :confused:

Probably about a 7 point bump in his direction.

[spudea]

reporter was trespassing. Ask them to leave, Tell them to leave, then make them leave. Should of grabbed him by the collar and thrown him out to the curb. Case dismissed.

[Dr.No.]

Will be interesting to see how this plays out. Has America finally reached the point where they understand that the media deserves to be beaten and body slammed and that we need people like this in office? Or is Montana still sufficiently cucked that this will hurt him?

We don't need laws...people will do the right thing!

[tod evans]

We don't need laws...people will do the right thing!

A person did do the right thing, he threw an uninvited trespasser to the ground when he refused to leave.

I believe he should have done many more 'right things' to the offensive lisper but being a politician this guy showed restraint.

[CPUd]

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https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/status/867881032241905665

[Schifference]

Who does Russia want in that position?

[CPUd]

Who does Russia want in that position?

http://i.imgur.com/grBU480.jpg

[specsaregood]

so this story and various claims and chastisement have been out for over 24 hours now and still no video? and with all the parties involved being journalists and a news crew in the room at the time? smells funny...

[dannno]

est. 56% in


R Greg Gianforte 49.9% http://ix.cnn.io/projects/2017/05/montana-house-special-election/media/gianforte.jpg
D Rob Quist 44.2% http://ix.cnn.io/projects/2017/05/montana-house-special-election/media/quist.jpg
L Mark Wicks 5.8% http://ix.cnn.io/projects/2017/05/montana-house-special-election/media/wicks.jpg

[Origanalist]

est. 56% in


R Greg Gianforte 49.9% http://ix.cnn.io/projects/2017/05/montana-house-special-election/media/gianforte.jpg
D Rob Quist 44.2% http://ix.cnn.io/projects/2017/05/montana-house-special-election/media/quist.jpg
L Mark Wicks 5.8% http://ix.cnn.io/projects/2017/05/montana-house-special-election/media/wicks.jpg


Ha ha ha ha ha, I'm loving it.

[Origanalist]

Greg Gianfonte Wins Montana Special Election As Rob Quist Falls Short In Upset Bid


Republican Greg Gianfonte has been declared the projected winner of the special House election in Montana.
http://15130-presscdn-0-89.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/rob-quist.jpg

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/05/25/rob-quist-pull-upset-live-montana-special-election-updates.html

Maybe there is hope after all. :)

[Danke]

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https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/status/867881032241905665


We all knew this would trigger the liberals here.

[Origanalist]

It looks Gianforte will be another red state Republican who substantially underperformed Trump’s margin of victory in 2016. The Montana result only confirms that Democratic momentum is building towards 2018.

Huh???:confused:

[dannno]

https://www.pscp.tv/Cernovich/1LyGBBwvEqMGN

[Swordsmyth]

Huh???:confused:

Well they believe they can borrow their way to prosperity, so why not lose their way to winning.

[enhanced_deficit]

But will this help his election bid :confused:

Well he did win:

Republican Greg Gianforte wins Montana special election, CNN projects
CNN


Some mild spankimg for left-wing neocons/DGP wing media etc.


As to media coverage of this audio clip replacing the Manchster attack news as top headline yesterday and non-stop rerun since .. shows a double standard. If media owners had had reported on and kept re-running of shocking Erection 2008 (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?502216-Erection-2008-Video-Surfaces-Of-Obama-Flaunting-His-Junk-to-Reporters-on-Campaign-Plane&) video during 2008 election campiagn season same way, DGP would have almost certainly lost in 2008.

[dannno]

bump

[Dr.3D]

Is a special election anything like special Olympics? :p

[TheCount]

Well they believe they can borrow their way to prosperity

...

As opposed to the other party, which believes...?

[surf]

for all of those in favor of mail-in ballots (which my state requires), this oughta be a reason to reconsider allowing folks to vote in person on election day.

i'd like to think the only worth-a-shit candidate in this race, Mr. Wicks, would have done much better if more than 2/3rds of the voters hadn't already voted.

[dannno]

for all of those in favor of mail-in ballots (which my state requires), this oughta be a reason to reconsider allowing folks to vote in person on election day.

i'd like to think the only worth-a-shit candidate in this race, Mr. Wicks, would have done much better if more than 2/3rds of the voters hadn't already voted.

I think Wicks would have done worse, a lot of his voters would have flipped over to Gianforte after hearing the news about dropping a liberal elitist prick journalist.

[surf]

so this story and various claims and chastisement have been out for over 24 hours now and still no video? and with all the parties involved being journalists and a news crew in the room at the time? smells funny...
that whole "film or it didn't happen" thing has really changed a lot of folks mindset - for the worse, i'd argue.

[dannno]

that whole "film or it didn't happen" thing has really changed a lot of folks mindset - for the worse, i'd argue.

No no, you see, they claimed they had the tape and they were planning to release it. See CPUd's posts.

Fox News has yet to release the tape. The question is why? I think I could figure it out if I saw the tape.

[surf]

I think Wicks would have done worse, a lot of his voters would have flipped over to Gianforte after hearing the news about dropping a liberal elitist prick journalist.i'm one of those guys that believe that your disagreement with me is fine but crosses a line somewhere just short of the tip of my nose and your fist.

this republican prick crossed that line.

[dannno]

i'm one of those guys that believe that your disagreement with me is fine but crosses a line somewhere just short of the tip of my nose and your fist.

this republican prick crossed that line.

If you break into my office and then refuse to leave after I ask you to and then shove a mic in my face you are going to get fucking dropped.

This is why you need to throw away your fuckin tv.

[dannno]

i'm one of those guys that believe that your disagreement with me is fine but crosses a line somewhere just short of the tip of my nose and your fist.

this republican prick crossed that line.

Not to mention, we haven't see the video, your opinion on the matter is guided by the mainstream media narrative and that is pathetic. Why the fuck would anybody believe a single word they say?

[CPUd]

If you break into my office and then refuse to leave after I ask you to and then shove a mic in my face you are going to get fucking dropped.

This is why you need to throw away your fuckin tv.

Are you running for public office?

[specsaregood]

No no, you see, they claimed they had the tape and they were planning to release it. See CPUd's posts.

Fox News has yet to release the tape. The question is why? I think I could figure it out if I saw the tape.

And the stories from the 2 news crews didn't match. The fox crew tried to say he had the guy on the ground and started punching the journalist, the guardian guy didn't even claim to be punched. It all stinks like bullshit.

[Swordsmyth]

...

As opposed to the other party, which believes...?

I said that this nonsense fits their logic pattern. I implied nothing about the other party's economic sense.

[CPUd]

How a GOP candidate’s alleged body slam of a reporter played out on the Trump Internet
By Abby Ohlheiser May 25 at 4:29 PM


Greg Gianforte would like to be the next Republican congressman from Montana. He is also facing a misdemeanor charge of assault after allegedly body-slamming a reporter who tried to ask him a policy question the night before the state’s special election.

The reporter, the audiotape of their exchange and the first-person account of the entire incident by a Fox News journalist all tell a similar story: Gianforte slammed Guardian reporter Ben Jacobs to the ground after he asked him about a Republican health-care bill. Jacobs was persistent but calm, according to the audiotape. The Fox team who witnessed the incident said the reporter showed no signs of “physical aggression” toward the would-be congressman.

A BuzzFeed reporter was also nearby, but she was unable to see the entire incident. Her account doesn’t contradict Jacobs’s.

Gianforte tells a different story, one blaming “aggressive behavior from a liberal journalist.” The campaign’s statement accuses Jacobs of shoving a tape recorder in his face (which is a daily occurrence for sitting congressmen in D.C.). The campaign says that “Greg then attempted to grab the phone that was pushed in his face,” and “Jacobs grabbed Greg’s wrist, and spun away from Greg, pushing them both to the ground.”

One incident, an audio recording, and plenty of witnesses. Two totally different stories. This isn’t unusual, particularly now. The witnesses supporting Jacobs’s account appear to outnumber those supporting Gianforte’s. But Gianforte does have plenty of backing online, particularly among Trump-supporting media personalities who have built careers and followings off a sentiment that the mainstream media is “fake,” biased against conservatives and corrupt. The president’s belief that mainstream journalists are “the enemy of the American People!” is a guiding principle in this world.

The mainstream conversation about all this has focused on a few things:

- What this incident says about current anti-media sentiment, particularly with a president in office who seems to encourage it.
- Whether this will affect the outcome of Montana’s special election, which is Thursday.
- How Republicans will respond to this — particularly if Gianforte wins anyway and comes to Washington.



The pro-Trump response has been different.

Question the alleged victim

The Guardian is not a conservative publication, a fact that should have nothing to do with justifying an alleged physical assault on someone who works there. But Jacobs’s employer and personal politics became an early subject of scrutiny for those working to cast doubt on his version of events. Gianforte himself made sure to call Jacobs a “liberal reporter” in his statement.

There’s not exactly a ton of good polling out there on how the nation feels about seeing journalists physically assaulted, but we do know that Trump’s base doesn’t trust the media to tell the truth.

As news of Jacobs’s alleged assault spread, so did a couple of conspiracy theories. Chuck Johnson’s GotNews claimed Jacobs was a “Democratic operative” who assaulted Gianforte, not the other way around. A story posted to Infowars about the incident accused Jacobs of “Interfer[ing] in the election. The post doesn’t question whether Jacobs was body-slammed, but it does seem to think Gianforte should have joked about “taking the fight to the liberal media” in his statement.

Others simply implied that Jacobs deserved to be allegedly assaulted by a person running for public office:

Outside the Trump Internet, the fact that a Fox News reporter corroborated Jacobs’s account was seen as just the sort of thing that might convince conservatives that this story might not be made up. That might be true to some degree, but its power as evidence was limited. The story Infowars ran, for instance, said they thought the account seemed “exaggerated.”

Fox News reporter Alicia Acuna went on Laura Ingraham’s radio talk show on Thursday to talk about what she saw. Ingraham questioned her version of events, and Acuna eventually said it’s possible she saw Gianforte grab Jacobs on either side of his neck, and not by the neck as if to choke him, which is how many inferred her written account of the whole thing (it used the phrase “by the neck”). Although it doesn’t appear that Acuna has walked back her account of Gianforte’s actions beyond that one clarification on the exact placement of the politician’s hands, Ingraham’s Lifezette ran the updated version of events as a “bombshell.” Drudge ran with “witness changes story.”

A tweet from a now-protected Twitter account corroborating Gianforte’s version events was widely circulated (and posted on GotNews) as proof that Jacobs was lying. On r/The_Donald, the popular subreddit devoted to spreading pro-Trump news and memes, an image of the tweet was one of the most popular posts on the board about the whole incident. It doesn’t appear that the alleged witness has provided evidence she was there, as even some comments on the subreddit noted.

Others, like Mike Cernovich, raised the bar for required evidence. Although there is an audio recording of the incident, he said video was needed for the story to be reliable.

Gateway Pundit wrote that it was “strange” there was no video.


Bring up something else

As this story spread, so did a couple of retorts. One of the more popular was to remind liberals that an activist punching white nationalist Richard Spencer in the face on the day of Trump’s inauguration became a meme — something that was widely covered in the media, including by The Washington Post.

"Is it OK to punch a Nazi," the media asked.

Everyone is a Nazi to someone, yes many see journos as "Nazis," too.

This sort of conditional response is a pretty common way that the Trump Internet responds to mainstream stories. It works, for them and their base of dedicated readers, for the same reason that all of the above works: They’ve taken the idea that the mainstream media is the enemy to heart. Bringing up the Nazi meme implies that journalists are hypocrites, which in turn reconfirms the disdain for mainstream journalism and journalists.

Anyway, if all this surprised you, it shouldn’t. This particular way of responding to alleged violence against a journalist by a political figure has happened before, to former Breitbart reporter Michelle Fields. Her own former employer helped to question her story of what happened last year. One of the witnesses was The Post’s Ben Terris, who wrote a piece about how the Trump campaign aggressively tried to get him to doubt the reality he clearly saw.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2017/05/25/how-a-gop-candidates-alleged-body-slam-of-a-reporter-played-out-on-the-trump-internet

[dannno]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2017/05/25/how-a-gop-candidates-alleged-body-slam-of-a-reporter-played-out-on-the-trump-internet


Others, like Mike Cernovich, raised the bar for required evidence. Although there is an audio recording of the incident, he said video was needed for the story to be reliable.

Fake news. I watched all of his coverage, Mike never said that. Sure, he was waiting for it to come out, but he already said that the audio "wasn't a good look", and he shouldn't have attacked him because personally he doesn't believe in political violence, but that it probably helped him win... because the mainstream leftist media is hated so much by the general population, many would like to see them get beat up. That's how much they are hurting our country. And also because they don't report on leftist violence against Trump supporters, which is WAYYY more common. You can't even walk around with a red hat on without being threatened to get assaulted.. thanks to the media's "punch a nazi" meme, and them calling half the population nazis.

But honestly that is a good question, why hasn't the video been released if they have it?

[CPUd]

Fake news. I watched all of his coverage, Mike never said that.

He said that the audio "wasn't a good look", and he shouldn't have attacked him because personally he doesn't believe in political violence, but that it probably helped him win... because the mainstream leftist media is hated so much by the general population, many would like to see them get beat up. That's how much they are hurting our country. And also because they don't report on leftist violence against Trump supporters, which is WAYYY more common. You can't even walk around with a red hat on without being threatened to get assaulted.. thanks to the media's "punch a nazi" meme, and them calling half the population nazis.

Related:

Trump has also masterfully cultivated the resilience of his cult by training them to be both prepped for the coming media onslaught against him, and to disregard anything which sounds bad as simply being “fake news” (even when his own people don’t even bother to deny the story!). Here he has taken a page right about of the Scientology playbook (there are a lot of similarities between Trump and Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard) which prevents their followers from getting outside news about them and prepares them that negative publicity is just another sign that nefarious forces are trying to destroy them because of all the good that they are doing.

This might be the number one element of Trumpsanity which the news media simply doesn’t understand. The more over-the-top they are in their negative coverage of Trump the more his cult completely tunes out any information not sanctioned by a “state-run” media organ, and the more they are convinced that Trump must be doing something right because otherwise the bad guys wouldn’t seem so desperate to destroy him.

Ironically, the news media, like a father trying to get his teenage daughter to stop dating that bad boy, would be far more effective in diminishing Trump’s support if they praised him for becoming such a mainstream/establishment/harmless guy.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?510995-Trump%92s-Cult-Was-Designed-to-Withstand-This-Current-Media-Onslaught

[dannno]

Related:


http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?510995-Trump%92s-Cult-Was-Designed-to-Withstand-This-Current-Media-Onslaught

That's not an argument.

It's total horseshit.

I just told you Cernovich never claimed that a video would be required to hold him accountable, he already said the audio made things look bad for him from a legal standpoint.

You come back with a bunch of horseshit.

You literally post nothing but horseshit.

[dannno]

https://www.pscp.tv/Cernovich/1yNGaqAOwWDGj?

https://www.pscp.tv/Cernovich/1LyGBBOydDMGN?

https://www.pscp.tv/Cernovich/1RDGlZYXwWVxL?

https://www.pscp.tv/Cernovich/1LyGBBwvEqMGN?

[AuH20]

Phony Press needs to suffer far worse than body slams, but I digress.

[milgram]

Quist never had a chance of winning but it was funny to see people get their hopes up


http://i.imgur.com/cNKt1oW.png

[specsaregood]

Quist never had a chance of winning but it was funny to see people get their hopes up
http://i.imgur.com/cNKt1oW.png

Lol @ the top comments blaming "black voter suppression" for the GOP candidate winning. Clearly this person has never been even remotely near montana.

[dannno]

Lol @ the top comments blaming "black voter suppression" for the GOP candidate winning. Clearly this person has never been even remotely near montana.

Barely .4%

Historically .3%

[spudea]

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Currently no story on this from CNN ABC MSNBC or CPUd

[Jamesiv1]

Gianforte clearly executed a move right out of Putin's playbook.

#RussiaDidit

[CPUd]

http://i.imgur.com/jJRMsRC.jpg

[CPUd]

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https://twitter.com/CassieABCFOXMT/status/874296268738228227

[unknown]

Fucking jerkoff.

[anaconda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEDP5-O9MZI

[surf]

wow, was I taken under msm's wing or what? (see my previous posts where I referred to the assaulter as a prick and complained about folks here not believing that the journalist was assaulted given the audio evidence). "film or it didn't happen"? c'mon folks.

way to stand up for freedom, Trumpers.