RussiaGate? 8 Months into This Sensational Crap No Evidence Offered.

[AngryCanadian]

RussiaGate? 8 Months into This Sensational Crap No Evidence Offered.

I have being following this complete sensational crap of RussiaGate through the
social media. And thus far the mainstream news media and the liberals who are calling PresidentTrump to resign had offered no reasonable profound Evidence.

Remember this Weeks's democrat press brief? they had a picture of Trump and Russian minsters laughing as Proof of RussiaGate.:rolleyes:
http://wpmedia.news.nationalpost.com/2017/05/sergey-kislyak.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=620



The democrat party and MSM are embarrassing themselves on the worldstage with this RussiaGate Crap.

[AZJoe]

https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/18485373_1898859457057155_8290398947308112517_n.pn g?oh=5601c0381d4a332fc4f455e745b2eaf3&oe=59AE864F

[donnay]

Hillary has more connections with Russia. :mad:

[CPUd]

Exclusive: Trump campaign had at least 18 undisclosed contacts with Russians: sources

May 16, 2017 | 02:19
Exclusive: Trump's campaign had 18 undisclosed contacts with Russia
By Ned Parker, Jonathan Landay and Warren Strobel | WASHINGTON


Michael Flynn and other advisers to Donald Trump’s campaign were in contact with Russian officials and others with Kremlin ties in at least 18 calls and emails during the last seven months of the 2016 presidential race, current and former U.S. officials familiar with the exchanges told Reuters.

The previously undisclosed interactions form part of the record now being reviewed by FBI and congressional investigators probing Russian interference in the U.S. presidential election and contacts between Trump’s campaign and Russia.

Six of the previously undisclosed contacts described to Reuters were phone calls between Sergei Kislyak, Russia's ambassador to the United States, and Trump advisers, including Flynn, Trump’s first national security adviser, three current and former officials said.

Conversations between Flynn and Kislyak accelerated after the Nov. 8 vote as the two discussed establishing a back channel for communication between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin that could bypass the U.S. national security bureaucracy, which both sides considered hostile to improved relations, four current U.S. officials said.

In January, the Trump White House initially denied any contacts with Russian officials during the 2016 campaign. The White House and advisers to the campaign have since confirmed four meetings between Kislyak and Trump advisers during that time.

The people who described the contacts to Reuters said they had seen no evidence of wrongdoing or collusion between the campaign and Russia in the communications reviewed so far. But the disclosure could increase the pressure on Trump and his aides to provide the FBI and Congress with a full account of interactions with Russian officials and others with links to the Kremlin during and immediately after the 2016 election.

The White House did not respond to requests for comment. Flynn's lawyer declined to comment. In Moscow, a Russian foreign ministry official declined to comment on the contacts and referred Reuters to the Trump administration.

Separately, a spokesman for the Russian embassy in Washington said: “We do not comment on our daily contacts with the local interlocutors.”

The 18 calls and electronic messages took place between April and November 2016 as hackers engaged in what U.S. intelligence concluded in January was part of a Kremlin campaign to discredit the vote and influence the outcome of the election in favor of Trump over his Democratic challenger, former secretary of state Hillary Clinton.

Those discussions focused on mending U.S.-Russian economic relations strained by sanctions imposed on Moscow, cooperating in fighting Islamic State in Syria and containing a more assertive China, the sources said.

Members of the Senate and House intelligence committees have gone to the CIA and the National Security Agency to review transcripts and other documents related to contacts between Trump campaign advisers and associates and Russian officials and others with links to Putin, people with knowledge of those investigations told Reuters.

The U.S. Justice Department said on Wednesday it had appointed former FBI Director Robert Mueller as special counsel to investigate alleged Russian meddling in the U.S. presidential campaign and possible collusion between Trump’s campaign and Russia. Mueller will now take charge of the FBI investigation that began last July. Trump and his aides have repeatedly denied any collusion with Russia.

...
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN18E106

[donnay]

Name names and show the proof or STFU.

[CPUd]

865169332304826368
https://twitter.com/mattvella/status/865169332304826368

[donnay]

Putin laughs at political chaos in the US
http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-39957800/putin-laughs-at-political-chaos-in-the-us

[AZJoe]

RussiaGate? 8 Months into This Sensational Crap No Evidence Offered.

Don't you get it. Obviously, the lack of any evidence just proves Russia is behind the lack of any evidence.

https://i.imgflip.com/1lduxc.jpg

[shakey1]

Putin laughs at political chaos in the US
http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-39957800/putin-laughs-at-political-chaos-in-the-us

It is to laugh... all this political BS. It'll take decades for America to regain any sense of credibility... that is if there is even an effort to do so. It is to laugh.:(

[AngryCanadian]

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN18E106

Ah More Bullshit as usual.



Exclusive: Trump campaign had at least 18 undisclosed contacts with Russians: sources

I am pretty sure Hillary had more undisclosed contacts with Russians then Trump.

[AngryCanadian]

865169332304826368
https://twitter.com/mattvella/status/865169332304826368

STFU fake Rand Paul supporter

[Brian4Liberty]

It's interesting and ludicrous at the same time that the leftist establishment is now attempting to make every conversation some kind of holy testimony that must be monitored and approved by, well, them.

"OMG! Someone on the Trump team sent an email to a Russian who once talked to Putin. It's proof of a crime or something really, really, bad and nefarious."

Wonder if anyone on the Trump and Clinton campaigns were ever "in contact" via "calls and "emails" with persons from any other nations?

[CPUd]

It's interesting and ludicrous at the same time that the leftist establishment is now attempting to make every conversation some kind of holy testimony that must be monitored and approved by, well, them.

"OMG! Someone on the Trump team sent an email to a Russian who once talked to Putin. It's proof of a crime or something really, really, bad and nefarious."

Wonder if anyone on the Trump and Clinton campaigns were ever "in contact" via "calls and "emails" with persons from any other nations?

It's a problem of his own making. He keeps tripling down on denials that are clearly false when there were no real consequences of being truthful, and throwing his staff under the bus when they try to clean it up. If he would have laid it all out on day 1, the press would not be ridiculing him like they are today.

[Brian4Liberty]

It's a problem of his own making. He keeps tripling down on denials that are clearly false when there were no real consequences of being truthful, and throwing his staff under the bus when they try to clean it up. If he would have laid it all out on day 1, the press would not be ridiculing him like they are today.

Sure. And if Hillary was asked, "did you collude with the Saudis to fix the election?", she would say, "oh, I just talked to them yesterday. My staff talks to them all the time. I'll go ahead and provide you with transcripts of all of the conversations tomorrow to prove that we were just talking about terrorism and oil and bombing Iran and stuff. The election only came up when I told them that they need to donate more to my campaign so that I would be nice to them in the future. No collusion at all"

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

It's infuriating and absurd. If they're able to remove Trump over the Russian collusion hoax, it'll become an attack blueprint for future politicians more palatable than him. Probably much more as well.

McCain already said Rand worked with Putin, too. Expect to see anyone who favors a different foreign policy or realignment with Russia in the future slammed by neo-Russophobia.

[AZJoe]

If he would have laid it all out on day 1, the press would not be ridiculing him like they are today.

That is pure delusional fantasy. The "press" MSM , would do exactly as they have been - ignoring actual real issues, failing to criticize things that should be criticized (like foreign intervention, debt and deficits, NSA, surveillance, not actually demanding total repeal of Obamacare, calling out or auditing the Fed, etc. ) while distracting us with hyper critiques of irrelevant things like two scoops of ice cream, of what words we said, or this tweet or that, or firing Comey after the same "press" demanded he be fired, or demonizing Russia, ignoring Israel and Saudi Arabia, cheer leading warmongering, coddling the neocon appointments like Pence while ridiculing anyone that might possibly challenge the neoconservative foreign policy, or manufacturing non-existent Russia conspiracies. In other words, they would be doing exactly as they have been doing and currently are doing.

Remember this is the same "press" that could find nothing deserving of focused attention with the deep state or alphabets trying to control and dictate foreign policy and subvert Constitutional process and electoral safeguards; the same "press" who couldn't are less about Hillary's unsecured email server leaking state secrets, or Obama's multiple occasions of leaking classified information, or foreign government contributions to Clinton Foundations, or pay to play, or violations of national sovereignty, or regime change, or Saudi/Israeli influence in US elections and government, or debt, or Washington interference in foreign elections or government, or war on false pretenses, or acts of preemptive warfare, or genocide in Yemen, or arming and supporting the head chopping Saudi Wahhabi dictatorship, or drone murders, or the destruction of entire nations and making refugees of millions, or arming and funding terrorists organizations, or creating them, or Benghazi, or provoking nuclear armed powers, or a foreign policy of perpetual lies, or challenging anything from the neocon establishment, or imprisoning Kiriakou or Manning, or total surveillance, or 1984 big brother style domestic spying, or NSA hacking and malware, or MSM collusion with political parties, or witch hunting Assange and Wikileaks or Snowden, who could not get outraged that the perpetrators and authorizes of the most heinous crime of torture or murder get no punishment while whistle-blowers go to prison, or on and on and on.

This so called "press" is on a perpetual campaign mode and act as PR cheerleaders for the perpetual deep state agenda, and while ignoring real issues and heinous crimes. They are not "press" but rather spokes-corporations for the deep state. They frame and manufacture their "reporting" to fit that agenda. We saw it clearly with Ron Paul in 2008. It has not gone away. Its only worse with the MSM. They have been and continue to try to ridicule anyone of any political spectrum from libertarian to authoritarian perceived in any particular way that might cause any hiccup in that agenda. The more influence and popularity, the more hyper-focused the criticism and ridicule.

[AZJoe]

It's infuriating and absurd. If they're able to remove Trump over the Russian collusion hoax, it'll become an attack blueprint for future politicians more palatable than him. Probably much more as well.

Exactly! ++ Kucinich clarifies this danger very well.

[CPUd]

Trump doesn’t realize that he’s really Tyler Durden
By Jonathan Capehart May 18 at 12:31 PM

Not content to mar the Coast Guard Academy commencement with a carnival of self-pity on Wednesday, President Trump emerged from a Twitter hiatus on Thursday to claim the mantle of political martyrdom. Pardon me a moment while I shed a single tear for the Tyler Durden of American presidents.

I know the first two rules of “Fight Club” are not to talk about “Fight Club,” but these are extraordinary circumstances. In short, the 1999 movie starring Edward Norton and Brad Pitt is about a guy (Norton) with such bad luck that after his apartment blows up, he goes to live with Durden (Pitt). In the parking lot of a bar, Durden says, “I want you to hit me.” The ensuing brawl between the two buddies (Norton’s character is the nameless narrator of the movie) sparks what becomes a secret fight club of men who wear their black eyes and bruises as badges of honor and distinction.

The through-the-fingers fight scenes are bloody. And the beat-downs endured by the narrator and Durden are intense. There’s only one hitch: Durden isn’t real. All the punches thrown and taken by the two are really the act of one person, the narrator. By the end of the movie you realize that all those hits and missing teeth were self-inflicted. A perfect metaphor for the Trump presidency.

...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2017/05/18/trump-doesnt-realize-that-hes-really-tyler-durden/

[Brian4Liberty]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2017/05/18/trump-doesnt-realize-that-hes-really-tyler-durden/

LOL. You have outdone yourself with that one. The media is completely unbiased. It's all Trump doing it to himself.

You can't seem to get enough of neoconservative propaganda outlets.

[CPUd]

LOL. You have outdone yourself with that one. The media is completely unbiased. It's all Trump doing it to himself.

You can't seem to get enough of neoconservative propaganda outlets.

Nonetheless, he can avoid 90% of bad press by doing these 2 simple tricks:

- stop tweeting
- let his PR people do their jobs

[UWDude]

Nonetheless, he can avoid 90% of bad press by doing these 2 simple tricks:

- stop tweeting
- let his PR people do their jobs

Never take advice from an enemy.

~~Sun Tzu

You are Trump's enemy, and a mouthpiece/shill for his enemy. You are clearly shareblue affiliated in some way, if not an outright IC employee.
You losers can not stand he is bypassing your narrative.

When the time comes, and it will, even little old you will answer for your crimes and lies.
Count on it.
It doesn't matter where on Earth you are posting from, because the American Civil War will be a global war, but much different than any war fought before.

You will be found.

[Philmanoman]

Never take advice from an enemy.

~~Sun Tzu

You are Trump's enemy, and a mouthpiece/shill for his enemy. You are clearly shareblue affiliated in some way, if not an outright IC employee.
You losers can not stand he is bypassing your narrative.

When the time comes, and it will, even little old you will answer for your crimes and lies.
Count on it.
It doesn't matter where on Earth you are posting from, because the American Civil War will be a global war, but much different than any war fought before.

You will be found.

Damn you're a fuckin idiot.
Some here have some serious brain malfunctions.LOL

[Mordan]

It's infuriating and absurd. If they're able to remove Trump over the Russian collusion hoax, it'll become an attack blueprint for future politicians more palatable than him. Probably much more as well.

McCain already said Rand worked with Putin, too. Expect to see anyone who favors a different foreign policy or realignment with Russia in the future slammed by neo-Russophobia.

it is the taint of emotional retards ruling the social media. This fire of emotional stupidity is stoked by a team of professional fudders like CPUD.

Rand or anyone can be smeared like Trump is being smeared.

[TheCount]

Never take advice from an enemy.

~~Sun Tzu

You are Trump's enemy, and a mouthpiece/shill for his enemy. You are clearly shareblue affiliated in some way, if not an outright IC employee.
You losers can not stand he is bypassing your narrative.

When the time comes, and it will, even little old you will answer for your crimes and lies.
Count on it.
It doesn't matter where on Earth you are posting from, because the American Civil War will be a global war, but much different than any war fought before.

You will be found.

During alt-right internet roleplaying, do you have to roll any dice or anything or do you just kind of wing it?

[UWDude]

During alt-right internet roleplaying, do you have to roll any dice or anything or do you just kind of wing it?

I occupied. Not alt-right. Sorry to shatter your illusions.

[Mordan]

just buy 1 bitcoin dudes...

[TheCount]

I occupied. Not alt-right. Sorry to shatter your illusions.The occupy movement and the current alt-right have a hell of a lot in common. Many of the same people and organizations who now support or are part of the alt-right supported Occupy, such as David Duke, the American Freedom Party, etc.

[RonPaulMall]

Nonetheless, he can avoid 90% of bad press by doing these 2 simple tricks:

- stop tweeting
- let his PR people do their jobs

Great advice. Cut off the one direct link he has to the American Public so the ONLY thing they ever hear are the Media's Fake News Stories and constant criticism.

[FSP-Rebel]

Great advice. Cut off the one direct link he has to the American Public so the ONLY thing they ever hear are the Media's Fake News Stories and constant criticism.

Exactly, it's his PR people that are either off-message or throwing him under the bus prompting him to tweet in his defense. CPU wants more of this so the shilling of the NYT and Wapo can fetch more money. RPFs is being overrun and infested w/ deep state/fake media propaganda/collusion and the mods don't even bat at eye. Too bad that ole Ron is being treated like this on a site dedicated to his mission of liberty and the ousting of establishment frauds. Total disgrace.

[Working Poor]

Russia is against the big banks they are my friend.

[TheCount]

Great advice. Cut off the one direct link he has to the American Public so the ONLY thing they ever hear are the Media's Fake News Stories and constant criticism.


Exactly, it's his PR people that are either off-message or throwing him under the bus prompting him to tweet in his defense. CPU wants more of this so the shilling of the NYT and Wapo can fetch more money. RPFs is being overrun and infested w/ deep state/fake media propaganda/collusion and the mods don't even bat at eye. Too bad that ole Ron is being treated like this on a site dedicated to his mission of liberty and the ousting of establishment frauds. Total disgrace.Wow, the deep state must be incredibly powerful if his own PR people that he himself chose are actually on their side instead of his. And instead of, y'know, just firing them, he'll use social media like Twitter which apparently is outside the control of this massive, complex, and incredibly powerful deep state apparatus.


This worldview is so incredibly convoluted that I can't comprehend how someone can believe it to be true without a truly intense feeling of cognitive dissonance.

[FSP-Rebel]

865313301353316352

[Mordan]

The Count. A PR team doesn't matter when Wapo and CNN write fake news stories and everyone relay those claiming Trump is a russian spy.

The Syrian missile strike showed us what the media really is. I will never forget the big happy smile on the face of the woman reporter asking a gloomy Trump about the strike.

[PierzStyx]

LOL. You have outdone yourself with that one. The media is completely unbiased. It's all Trump doing it to himself.

You can't seem to get enough of neoconservative propaganda outlets.

Did you, the person who is defending the authoritarian warmonger talking about putting more troops in Afghanistan, bombing Syria, drone bombing civilians, killing innocent women and children in overseas bombings, putting more troops in Iraq and Syria, add billions to the military budget ,and looking to start a war with North Korea of all places, really calling someone else a "neocon"?

That is some hypocritical garbage right there.

[TheCount]

The Count. A PR team doesn't matter when Wapo and CNN write fake news stories and everyone relay those claiming Trump is a russian spy.
A PR team doesn't matter when Trump contradicts himself every day. More than half of his wounds are self inflicted.



Oh, and could you link me one of those stories where wapo and CNN said that Trump is a Russian spy? Since they're daily you shouldn't have to look far.

[Brian4Liberty]

Did you, the person who is defending the authoritarian warmonger talking about putting more troops in Afghanistan, bombing Syria, drone bombing civilians, killing innocent women and children in overseas bombings, putting more troops in Iraq and Syria, add billions to the military budget ,and looking to start a war with North Korea of all places, really calling someone else a "neocon"?

That is some hypocritical garbage right there.

I am not defending any of that, and have posted against all of it. My problem is with the corrupt, hysterical and distractionary leftist/neocon media, and you can not seem to comprehend the difference between not liking the media and loving Trump.

You hate Trump, therefore everyone else who hates Trump is now your best buddy, and anyone who criticizes the media is your sworn enemy.

[timosman]

Did you, the person who is defending the authoritarian warmonger talking about putting more troops in Afghanistan, bombing Syria, drone bombing civilians, killing innocent women and children in overseas bombings, putting more troops in Iraq and Syria, add billions to the military budget ,and looking to start a war with North Korea of all places, really calling someone else a "neocon"?

That is some hypocritical garbage right there.

You got that one right.:cool:

[Mordan]

Did you, the person who is defending the authoritarian warmonger talking about putting more troops in Afghanistan, bombing Syria, drone bombing civilians, killing innocent women and children in overseas bombings, putting more troops in Iraq and Syria, add billions to the military budget ,and looking to start a war with North Korea of all places, really calling someone else a "neocon"?

That is some hypocritical garbage right there.

So defending Trump against the media is defending Trump's every single actions? You sound like an emotional justice warrior. Logic like this coming from your emotions are making this world a hell hole.

[Wooden Indian]

Never take advice from an enemy.

~~Sun Tzu

You are Trump's enemy, and a mouthpiece/shill for his enemy. You are clearly shareblue affiliated in some way, if not an outright IC employee.
You losers can not stand he is bypassing your narrative.

When the time comes, and it will, even little old you will answer for your crimes and lies.
Count on it.
It doesn't matter where on Earth you are posting from, because the American Civil War will be a global war, but much different than any war fought before.

You will be found.

Busted. You got him, dude!

CPU'd is an IC employee (maybe even a WTK henchman) and even though he's likely posting from the Illuminati bunker deep under Antarctica, The Orange One and his Avengers team will find him... and they will destroy him.

[angelatc]

Nonetheless, he can avoid 90% of bad press by doing these 2 simple tricks:

- stop tweeting
- let his PR people do their jobs

thats the kind of advice that almost cost him the presidency

[Jackson]

Nonetheless, he can avoid 90% of bad press by doing these 2 simple tricks:

- stop tweeting
- let his PR people do their jobs



Right because he should let the liberal media tell people what he said instead of telling them himself.

[UWDude]

Busted. You got him, dude!

CPU'd is an IC employee (maybe even a WTK henchman) and even though he's likely posting from the Illuminati bunker deep under Antarctica, The Orange One and his Avengers team will find him... and they will destroy him.

Andy Kaufman? Dave Chapelle? Seriously, let us know who is the comic genius behind your posts.

[UWDude]

Wow, the deep state must be incredibly powerful if his own PR people that he himself chose are actually on their side instead of his. And instead of, y'know, just firing them, he'll use social media like Twitter which apparently is outside the control of this massive, complex, and incredibly powerful deep state apparatus.


This worldview is so incredibly convoluted that I can't comprehend how someone can believe it to be true without a truly intense feeling of cognitive dissonance.

Willy Wonka as avatar.

You are just another fantasy land dweller.

Case in point:

The occupy movement and the current alt-right have a hell of a lot in common.

[UWDude]

The occupy movement and the current alt-right have a hell of a lot in common.

Yup, you are in a fantasy land.

[CPUd]

thats the kind of advice that almost cost him the presidency

What good is it to win the POTUS if you burn all your bridges to get there? And even so, there were cautiously optimistic allies in the press and in the Congress willing to give him a shot, even after the way he treated them during the campaign. The reason he can't work with them now is all his own fault.

[CPUd]

Never take advice from an enemy.

~~Sun Tzu

You are Trump's enemy, and a mouthpiece/shill for his enemy. You are clearly shareblue affiliated in some way, if not an outright IC employee.
You losers can not stand he is bypassing your narrative.

When the time comes, and it will, even little old you will answer for your crimes and lies.
Count on it.
It doesn't matter where on Earth you are posting from, because the American Civil War will be a global war, but much different than any war fought before.

You will be found.

I'm easily found. Come find me. We'll have a chat.

[UWDude]

I'm easily found. Come find me. We'll have a chat.

Why would I do that? I don't have to.


What good is it to win the POTUS if you burn all your bridges to get there? And even so, there were cautiously optimistic allies in the press and in the Congress willing to give him a shot, even after the way he treated them during the campaign. The reason he can't work with them now is all his own fault.

Out of one side of this snakes mouth, Trump is the swamp, out of the other side of this snake's mouth, Trump should work with the swamp.

Out of one side of this snakes Mouth, trump is in Collusion with Russia, and it will all come crashing down. Out of the other side of this snake's mouth, Trump is goign to destroy himself with tweets.


there were cautiously optimistic allies in the press

Like who?

God damn you don't give one iota a care about the truth, in any shape or form, nor do you care to even appear to be talking truth. You just write as many lies as possible.

[TheCount]

Yup, you are in a fantasy land.You don't think that there were nationalist members and supporters of the occupy movement?

[UWDude]

You don't think that there were nationalist members and supporters of the occupy movement?


The occupy movement and the current alt-right have a hell of a lot in common.

Fantasy land

[TheCount]

Fantasy land


Many racialists are unsure about, and even against, these Occupy Wall Street protests all around the country. It has been pointed out to me that many protesters are non-white and/or “communists.” Well my answer to that is: “WHO CARES?!” They are against the same evil, corrupted, degenerate capitalist elitists that WE are against! Instead of screaming, “6 million more!” The pro-white movementites should be JOINING this Occupy movement and supporting it!

Seriously people, just WHO is our enemy? The unemployed left-wing 25-year-old holding up a sign, OR the judeo-capitalist banksters who swindled the American taxpayers out of A TRILLION dollars in the “bailout” scam AND continue to oppress the White Working Class?!? Even Adolf Hitler’s NSDAP had to vote with open communists on some issues to achieve their goals. WE need to utilize and support every movement of dissent against this evil American empire, regardless of which end of the political spectrum it originates from.

The foremost authority on National Socialism in America has this to say about “Occupy”:
What is really MISSING – is the “MOVEMENT” from these popular protests – its time to pull WN heads out of their collective ass’s, and JOIN IN the attack on Judeo-Capitalism. What do you suggest? That WN Working Class White people DEFEND the Judeo-Capitalists? IF the “movement” wasn’t so PATHETIC it would be OUT THERE – LEADING these protests! The fact that its these “lefties” as you call them, who are picking up the ball and running with it – only shows how much more in tune THEY are with the fed up masses of White Workers, than the fossilized, reactionary “right-wing”. WHO holds the WEALTH and POWER in this country – the JUDEO-CAPITALISTS. WHO is therefore the #1 ENEMY who makes all this filth happen – the JUDEO-CAPITALISTS. WHO therefore do WN need to FIGHT? My heart is right there with these people, perhaps someday the “movement” will SHOW the same COURAGE and DEDICATION that these people OUT THERE FIGHTING are SHOWING!

Sincerely, ROCKY SUHAYDA Hail Victory! 88! www.ANP14.com (http://www.ANP14.com)

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/10/15/american-nazi-party-endorses-occupy-wall-streets-courage-tells-members-to-support-protests-and-fight-judeo-capitalist-banksters/

[BV2]

"The sanctity of our election process." I hear that term alot for a country to holds the separation of church and state as a primary tenent.

Which is hilarious. If I didnt have to go to work id wonder if real life is still real. Orare et labore. And when the state is your god this becomes literal. Consider your taxes a tithe.

[PierzStyx]

I am not defending any of that, and have posted against all of it. My problem is with the corrupt, hysterical and distractionary leftist/neocon media, and you can not seem to comprehend the difference between not liking the media and loving Trump.

You hate Trump, therefore everyone else who hates Trump is now your best buddy, and anyone who criticizes the media is your sworn enemy.

If everyone who hated trump was my best buddy, why on the Earth would I have a problem with the media when much of it is also anti-Trump? That doesn't make sense.


You can post against something all you want. But giving support the man and his policies negates all that you say. It is just saying one thing while doing another, the very definition of hypocrisy.

[BV2]

A PR team doesn't matter when Trump contradicts himself every day. More than half of his wounds are self inflicted.



Oh, and could you link me one of those stories where wapo and CNN said that Trump is a Russian spy? Since they're daily you shouldn't have to look far.

You really think, base on the coverage, that that isn't precisely what they hope the plebs will infer?

[PierzStyx]

So defending Trump against the media is defending Trump's every single actions? You sound like an emotional justice warrior. Logic like this coming from your emotions are making this world a hell hole.

The real issue is that you don't know what you're talking about. I'm not just responding the Bryan's one argument but rather a pattern of arguments from B4L that come to Trump's defense and support for Trumps policies, especially in regards to big government and unconstitutional government regulation of the border, as well as a consistent unwillingness to face the facts that when you support someone for President you don't get to pick and choose. You can't just say, "Well, I support his border views but don't support his international warmongering." The system in America is all or nothing and your support is used by the President not just to justify regulating the border but also in murdering 8 year old little girls with drone bombs. To give teh kind of person who would do that power and then try to say that you aren't responsible for their actions is the height of corrupt hypocrisy.

And anyone implying The Count a "neocon" is an idiot. If anything, support for Trump and his ridiculous border wall is the neocon agenda.

[UWDude]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/10/15/american-nazi-party-endorses-occupy-wall-streets-courage-tells-members-to-support-protests-and-fight-judeo-capitalist-banksters/

Somebody wrote something. I was there. For three months. You know, in reality, not in the blogosphere and not "experiencing" it through my television news.

[Brian4Liberty]

The real issue is that you don't know what you're talking about. I'm not just responding the Bryan's one argument but rather a pattern of arguments from B4L that come to Trump's defense and support for Trumps policies, especially in regards to big government and unconstitutional government regulation of the border, as well as a consistent unwillingness to face the facts that when you support someone for President you don't get to pick and choose. You can't just say, "Well, I support his border views but don't support his international warmongering." The system in America is all or nothing and your support is used by the President not just to justify regulating the border but also in murdering 8 year old little girls with drone bombs. To give teh kind of person who would do that power and then try to say that you aren't responsible for their actions is the height of corrupt hypocrisy.

And anyone implying The Count a "neocon" is an idiot. If anything, support for Trump and his ridiculous border wall is the neocon agenda.

Where are these quotes where I "support" Trump? Context is important. Put up or shut up.

Your sophist vendetta because I don't agree with you on open borders is getting old. Sorry, it's the neocons that are for open borders and globalism.

[TheCount]

Somebody wrote something. I was there. For three months. You know, in reality, not in the blogosphere and not "experiencing" it through my television news.

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Either the two positions share mutual goals or they don't. Anti-Zionist, Anti-banker, and Anti-globalist sentiments are found on both ends of the political spectrum.

[Brian4Liberty]

You can't just say, "Well, I support his border views but don't support his international warmongering.

Yes, you can. Among other things, this is a political activism forum. It is impossible to agree with someone 100% of the time. There are allies on specific issues, just like Kucinich was an ally to Ron Paul on some issues, and Tulsi Gabbard is an ally today on some issues. If Rand can work with Trump (or influence him) on certain issues, then people can also support that effort. It is the nature of politics.

[RJB]

You would think this would be a no-brainer. I remember a past member on the religion forum would regularly tell people that "You can't believe (fill in a belief) because you are a such-in-such religious," while totally ignoring what the person actually said.

This political talibanism is the reason for all these ridiculous grudges and the reason we have endless arguments that spill on to unrelated threads. It is because people literally can't understand what they are reading because their hatred for the other member trumps their own reason. Seeing it here and every other internet political discussion forum has helped my cynicism in humanity grow.



Yes, you can. Among other things, this is a political activism forum. It is impossible to agree with someone 100% of the time. There are allies on specific issues, just like Kucinich was an ally to Ron Paul on some issues, and Tulsi Gabbard is an ally today on some issues. If Rand can work with Trump (or influence him) on certain issues, then people can also support that effort. It is the nature of politics.