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Superfluous Man
05-17-2017, 08:51 AM
A reporter just tweeted the following this morning:

Amash tells reporters that if Comey memo allegations are true, it's grounds for impeachment. Says he trusts Comey more than Trump.
https://twitter.com/KatieBoWill/status/864841029853343745

Brian4Liberty
05-17-2017, 09:34 AM
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https://twitter.com/JRubinBlogger/status/864844096535449601

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The actual quote from Amash:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LPRw-ZVYDw

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Thomas Massie addresses the Amash "quote" at the 1:58 mark:

White House controversies are ‘weapons of mass distraction,’ says Rep. Massie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MOm4roamiA)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MOm4roamiA

dannno
05-17-2017, 09:43 AM
That's so basic bro, lol..

chudrockz
05-17-2017, 09:50 AM
Oh Justin, you're no chess player. You're no chess player at ALL.

Brian4Liberty
05-17-2017, 10:26 AM
We don't have actual quotes or video from Amash yet, but McCain may have beat him to it...

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https://twitter.com/ananavarro/status/864640312144252932

Brian4Liberty
05-17-2017, 10:42 AM
Couldn't find actual video of Amash answering this question, but this was on YouTube...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1QcsYyycJk

enhanced_deficit
05-17-2017, 11:02 AM
WaPo neocons media cabal, war lobbies pups lke Jen Rubin and Justin are on same side on this?
Naive move by Justin.

It was stupid mistake by some loud mouth Trump camp folks who had hinted about a primary challenge to Justin after his previous attack on Trump. Hopefully any past grudge will not be a factor in Justin making startegic decisions in a Trump vs Neocomns-Media-"ISIS Founders" cabal showdown given the stakes.

Valli6
05-17-2017, 11:17 AM
:rolleyes:
Mountain out of molehill.

Asked by The Hill if the details in the memo would merit impeachment if they're true, Amash replied:
"Yes. But everybody gets a fair trial in this country," Amash added as he left a House GOP conference meeting.

Asked by another reporter whether he trusted Comey's word or Trump's, Amash said: "I think it's pretty clear I have more confidence in Director Comey."

Amash is one of only two House Republicans to cosponsor a Democratic bill to establish an independent commission to investigate Russia's role in the election. Rep. Walter Jones (R-N.C.) has also endorsed the legislation.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/333803-first-republican-raises-impeachment-for-trump

ALSO - The Hill story has a video, but it includes NO footage of Amash saying any of this. It's just a narrator.

EBounding
05-17-2017, 11:22 AM
:rolleyes:
Mountain out of molehill.

Yeah that's what I was thinking too. He's probably saying this to placate the left in his district, especially after his healthcare vote.

H. E. Panqui
05-17-2017, 11:23 AM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-17/republican-amash-breaks-party-says-if-true-comey-memo-merits-trump-impeachment

"In what may be the most material development of the day, moments ago GOP Representative Justin Amash (R-Mich.) said the report that President Trump pressured ousted FBI Director James Comey to end an investigation would merit impeachment if true, becoming the first Republican lawmaker to break from the party and hint at impeachment."

enhanced_deficit
05-17-2017, 11:25 AM
Once he finds out more details, he will have a different view.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?510645-Trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-Russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador&p=6468977&viewfull=1#post6468977

Rand Paul: Second senator informs him he was under surveillance as well. (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?510598-Rand-Paul-Second-senator-informs-him-he-was-under-surveillance-as-well&)

Rand Paul On Michael Savage - Obama Spying On Rand Paul (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?510583-Rand-Paul-On-Michael-Savage-Obama-Spying-On-Rand-Paul&)

Trump: Barrack Obama is a bad, sick guy (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?502216-Erection-2008-Video-Surfaces-Of-Obama-Flaunting-His-Junk-to-Reporters-on-Campaign-Plane&p=6451014&viewfull=1#post6451014)

Ron Paul: No evidence of Russian intrusion in US political system (RT 5/11) (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?510604-Ron-Paul-No-evidence-of-Russian-intrusion-in-US-political-system-%28RT-5-11%29&)



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AuH20
05-17-2017, 11:28 AM
Loony tunes.

Brian4Liberty
05-17-2017, 11:29 AM
:rolleyes:
Mountain out of molehill.

They asked him a hypothetical, he answered with "yes", and the media ran with their spin.

EBounding
05-17-2017, 11:32 AM
This is being way overblown. Amash did not say that Trump could be impeached. The Hill asked him if the details in the Comey memo were true, would it merit impeachment? Amash said "Yes" and added that everyone deserves a fair trial.

CPUd
05-17-2017, 11:33 AM
Most will settle for a special prosecutor

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https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/864820076440145920

Brian4Liberty
05-17-2017, 11:40 AM
Most will settle for a special prosecutor

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https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/864820076440145920

When McCain and Lindsey are not available, Kinzinger is the media's "go to" neoconservative.

susano
05-17-2017, 11:45 AM
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https://twitter.com/JRubinBlogger/status/864844096535449601


The most insane neocon propagandist, British Louise Mensch, is a huge Amash fan now!

susano
05-17-2017, 11:47 AM
This is being way overblown. Amash did not say that Trump could be impeached. The Hill asked him if the details in the Comey memo were true, would it merit impeachment? Amash said "Yes" and added that everyone deserves a fair trial.

Yes, he did. Shit, it's in your own quote.

This is not being overblown.

CPUd
05-17-2017, 11:55 AM
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https://twitter.com/justinamash/status/864623277930676224

FSP-Rebel
05-17-2017, 12:10 PM
And....The markets tanked like a bitch today following these sentiments being unveiled. Meanwhile, bitcoin skyrockets in response. Keep it up, Amash. The deep state and their propaganda outlets in full swing for all to see.

susano
05-17-2017, 12:13 PM
Once he finds out more details, he will have a different view.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?510645-Trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-Russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador&p=6468977&viewfull=1#post6468977

Rand Paul: Second senator informs him he was under surveillance as well. (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?510598-Rand-Paul-Second-senator-informs-him-he-was-under-surveillance-as-well&)

Rand Paul On Michael Savage - Obama Spying On Rand Paul (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?510583-Rand-Paul-On-Michael-Savage-Obama-Spying-On-Rand-Paul&)

Trump: Barrack Obama is a bad, sick guy (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?502216-Erection-2008-Video-Surfaces-Of-Obama-Flaunting-His-Junk-to-Reporters-on-Campaign-Plane&p=6451014&viewfull=1#post6451014)

Ron Paul: No evidence of Russian intrusion in US political system (RT 5/11) (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?510604-Ron-Paul-No-evidence-of-Russian-intrusion-in-US-political-system-%28RT-5-11%29&)

Whoa! I didn't know about those dates!!!

angelatc
05-17-2017, 12:17 PM
This is being way overblown. Amash did not say that Trump could be impeached. The Hill asked him if the details in the Comey memo were true, would it merit impeachment? Amash said "Yes" and added that everyone deserves a fair trial.

Libertarianz? Dramaz? Say it isn't so!

PierzStyx
05-17-2017, 12:19 PM
Yeah, how dare someone have a problem with a warmongering, authoritarian fascist like Trump. Imagine actually holding government leaders accountable for even flirting with disobeying the law and/or violating our rights. Wouldn't THAT be horrendous? /s

susano
05-17-2017, 12:44 PM
Yeah, how dare someone have a problem with a warmongering, authoritarian fascist like Trump. Imagine actually holding government leaders accountable for even flirting with disobeying the law and/or violating our rights. Wouldn't THAT be horrendous? /s

The "war mongering fascist" is being attacked by the warmongers for wanting peace and cooperation with Russia.

Please do tell what "rights" of yours were violated in Trumps alleged conversation with Comey - who cleared war monger, Hillary Clinton - based upon reports about an alleged memo, reported by the Jew York Times (big Iraq war pimps, NATO must bomb Libya, Assad must go, etc), which they have never seen and was read to them over the phone.

EBounding
05-17-2017, 01:07 PM
Yes, he did. Shit, it's in your own quote.

This is not being overblown.

The Hill asked him a hypothetical question.


Asked by The Hill if the details in the memo would merit impeachment if they're true, Amash replied: "Yes."

"But everybody gets a fair trial in this country," Amash added as he left a House GOP conference meeting.

If Amash didn't answer the question correctly, then what should he have said instead?

susano
05-17-2017, 01:49 PM
The Hill asked him a hypothetical question.



If Amash didn't answer the question correctly, then what should he have said instead?

How about "Chaffitz is getting the ALLEGED memo/s and any discussion of impeachment, based upon something nobody has seen would be ridiculously premature and inappropriate"?

timosman
05-17-2017, 01:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4ZGKI8vpcg

EBounding
05-17-2017, 02:31 PM
How about "Chaffitz is getting the ALLEGED memo/s and any discussion of impeachment, based upon something nobody has seen would be ridiculously premature and inappropriate"?

Fair enough. I think that's a better response, but I still don't see anything untruthful with Amash just replying "yes". Amash hasn't exactly been a fan of Trump from the very beginning. Justin's gone out of the way to make it clear he's never endorsed Trump, but he was re-elected anyway.

Brian4Liberty
05-17-2017, 03:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFqrdqAbr8c

Interesting summary near the end. According to Judge Napolitano, based on what is currently known, there is no crime, but impeachment is a political process, so any President can be impeached if the votes are there.

Superfluous Man
05-17-2017, 06:54 PM
The "war mongering fascist" is being attacked by the warmongers for wanting peace and cooperation with Russia.


But you know full well that Amash has never criticized him for that in particular.

Superfluous Man
05-17-2017, 07:24 PM
How about "Chaffitz is getting the ALLEGED memo/s and any discussion of impeachment, based upon something nobody has seen would be ridiculously premature and inappropriate"?

We could come up with 20 different totally valid reasons to impeach Trump based on things that are known facts and matters of public record that he himself is proud of. There is no reason not to support it. Amash was going easy on him.

susano
05-17-2017, 08:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFqrdqAbr8c

Interesting summary near the end. According to Judge Napolitano, based on what is currently known, there is no crime, but impeachment is a political process, so any President can be impeached if the votes are there.

Everything is political. Nothing is based in rule of law. Just like the judges staying the travel restrictions. They all cited campaign rhetoric and questioned Trump's intent which had fuck all to do with whether the EO's were A) constitutional (they were) and B) legal (they were).

Interesting Judge Nap mentioned that the Republicans control the house, senate and exec but too bad they can't govern. I heard Mark Levin railing about how nobody would be able to tell there's a Republican majority since the Democraps are in charge. He's absolutely right. Chuck Schumer is in charge now. President Schumer says it shall be so and it is.

The Donald may be good at deal making but he is a little pussy when it comes to the game of politics. He's caved at every bit of pressure. Special prosecutors, for no good reason, recusals, for no good reason. Dems and neocons are like ISIS. They'll cut your fucking head off to get what they want and Trump tries to appease them. Congressional Republicans, as Levin said, simply don't care about their base or what they think or want. Trump got elected because of this (reps betraying their voters) and they still keep doing it.

We really are screwed as a country. A few years ago I was of the opinion that all was hopeless because you can't fix Satanic. Then Ron Paul entered in '08 and I was hopeful. Alas, all really is lost and I'm back where I was. It's going to crash and burn. We're having a coup and war will probably be next. Did you read that the Obama #resist minions will be attending summer camps across the country? Oh, yeah. That's his civilian army he spoke of in '08 and they've been funded with tax dollars that Obama granted them. Right under our fucking noses. It's the rise of the neo Bolsheviks, enabled by the deep state. And, here are all of these people yapping about fascism this, and fascism that. Erm, nope, this is communism and it's funded by the same financial international who funded Lenin and Trotsky.

susano
05-17-2017, 08:52 PM
But you know full well that Amash has never criticized him for that in particular.


Didn't say he did. I was responding to the poster going on about the "authoritarian war mongering fascist", Trump.

susano
05-17-2017, 08:56 PM
We could come up with 20 different totally valid reasons to impeach Trump based on things that are known facts and matters of public record that he himself is proud of. There is no reason not to support it. Amash was going easy on him.

Who is "we" - you and Chuck Schumer?

Chucky can't come up with ONE thing to impeach Trump, let alone twenty, and he sure would if he could. You're delusional. Trump has done NOTHING warranting impeachment.

ChristianAnarchist
05-17-2017, 09:47 PM
How about we just impeach them all???

Anti Federalist
05-17-2017, 11:09 PM
How about we just impeach them all???

I was thinking of something much more harsh than impeachment, but yeah, I could get behind this.

susano
05-18-2017, 01:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEPM22xqvl0

susano
05-18-2017, 03:05 AM
Just caught Chaffitz on Tucker Carlson and he said the special investigation could go on for YEARS and he is concerned the Dems plan on daily wild speculations to keep making political hay. He said, regarding evidence of collusion with Russia, "They got nothin'". Tucker brought up that Maxine Waters accused Chaffitz of being in bed with the Kremlin. This "you're a Kremlin agent" began with Ukraine and is a charge the Ukienazis level at everyone who ever speaks the truth about what happened or is happening there. It's important to remember that these scumbag Ukrainians are also involved in this whole mess. They provided opposition research for Clinton and Crowdstrike, the DNC cyber security contractor, is owned by a Ukie Putin/Russia hater. They hate Trump because of his statements about getting along with Russia and whatever it was he said about Crimea (can't recall but along the lines that the people of Crimea had the right to decide their own future). Unless followed the coup and war in Ukraine, they'd never know how nuts these people are. It was Ukies behind that absurd website "PropOrNot" that the Washington compost wrote about, calling them "experts" on what websites were okay to read and what were not.

The war on Trump and also against our country is a deep rabbit hole full of seriously deranged and criminal people.

EBounding
05-18-2017, 07:09 AM
Why is Justin's response to a hypothetical question more outrageous than him not endorsing Trump for president?

angelatc
05-18-2017, 08:53 AM
Just caught Chaffitz on Tucker Carlson and he said the special investigation could go on for YEARS and he is concerned the Dems plan on daily wild speculations to keep making political hay....

Of course. The GOP did it to Clinton in the 90's. Whitewater, Travelgate, Foster, Filegate....that's just the beginning. Eventually they got something to stick.


The war on Trump.... :rolleyes:

You can be a Trump supporter but if you're abandoning legitimate liberty candidates over him then these forums probably are not the place for you. Amash might not be perfect but he is literally all you have.

Superfluous Man
05-18-2017, 10:15 AM
Who is "we" - you and Chuck Schumer?


No, "we" means people who support the mission of this website.

Do you honestly doubt what I said?

If you do, then why are you even here?


Chucky can't come up with ONE thing to impeach Trump

That's because for Chuck Schumer, violating the Constitution is a good thing. I wouldn't expect that view from members of this website.

Superfluous Man
05-18-2017, 10:18 AM
How about we just impeach them all???

+rep

When did this concept become hard to grasp around here?

TheTexan
05-18-2017, 10:28 AM
Oh Justin, you're no chess player. You're no chess player at ALL.

Exactly, this isn't even checkers. It's more like connect 4. To his credit, it's 3D connect 4

juleswin
05-18-2017, 10:47 AM
+rep

When did this concept become hard to grasp around here?

When we realized Santa and the tooth fairy didn't exist. How the hell do you even go about impeaching them all? did you actually think about it before hitting the rep button? this movement would not progress an inch(forward) and continue to move backwards if we continue to engage in unrealistic wishful thinking.

Superfluous Man
05-18-2017, 01:56 PM
When we realized Santa and the tooth fairy didn't exist. How the hell do you even go about impeaching them all? did you actually think about it before hitting the rep button? this movement would not progress an inch(forward) and continue to move backwards if we continue to engage in unrealistic wishful thinking.

Nobody's saying we can. But it would be good if we did.

Holding to ideals doesn't stop us from moving forward. It gives us the direction we need to move.

susano
05-18-2017, 04:14 PM
Of course. The GOP did it to Clinton in the 90's. Whitewater, Travelgate, Foster, Filegate....that's just the beginning. Eventually they got something to stick.

:rolleyes:

You can be a Trump supporter but if you're abandoning legitimate liberty candidates over him then these forums probably are not the place for you. Amash might not be perfect but he is literally all you have.

It's been a long since the Clinton days and I don't recall if there were special investigators for Whitewater, Vince Foster and all of the other stuff. Were there? I mean before Lewinsky. I do recall that after Foster was suicided an MSM reporter was stationed outside of the White House reporting that Hillary and Maggie whats-her-face (HRC aid) were shredding stacks of boxes of documents. Point being, everyone knew the Clinton's were dirty. That's unlike false Russia hysteria.

What do so many people here, like you, invite others to leave when a comment is made they don't like? Is there a group think rule that I missed?

You roll eyes at my "war on Trump" remark. Why? Are you implying there isn't one? I've contented there is a communist deep state war against both Trump and the United States. Acknowledging reality doesn't make one some Trump bootlicker or imply Trump love. Dennis Kucinich has said the same thing and I don't think anyone outside of the Democratic Underground loons would accuse Kuncinich of being a Trump supporter.

susano
05-18-2017, 04:26 PM
No, "we" means people who support the mission of this website.

Do you honestly doubt what I said?

If you do, then why are you even here?



That's because for Chuck Schumer, violating the Constitution is a good thing. I wouldn't expect that view from members of this website.

You speak for yourself, no one else. This is not a collective.

You've stated that you welcome a deep state a coup d'etat in the United States, i.e., "taking down a president". I don't think you'd find much company here sharing such a sentiment. Perhaps it's you that should answer why you're here. I came when Ron Paul ran.

Since you're in favor of a coup, your mention of the constitution is laughable. Since Chucky is all up in the coup, you two are really rather simpatico :)

Brian4Liberty
05-18-2017, 07:02 PM
Thomas Massie addresses the Amash "quote" at the 1:58 mark:

White House controversies are ‘weapons of mass distraction,’ says Rep. Massie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MOm4roamiA)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MOm4roamiA

Jamesiv1
05-18-2017, 07:59 PM
"Weapons of mass distraction" and "the Deep Swamp"

lol

Superfluous Man
05-18-2017, 08:35 PM
You speak for yourself, no one else. This is not a collective.

You may not have noticed, but yes, as a matter of fact this website does have a mission statement.


You've stated that you welcome a deep state a coup d'etat in the United States, i.e., "taking down a president". I don't think you'd find much company here sharing such a sentiment.

You're kidding yourself.

Brian4Liberty
05-21-2017, 09:34 AM
The actual quote from Amash:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LPRw-ZVYDw

loveshiscountry
05-22-2017, 09:13 AM
Trump said - "The Freedom Caucus will hurt the entire Republican agenda if they don't get on the team, & fast. We must fight them, & Dems, in 2018!"
Dan Scavino Jr., White House director of social media and senior aide to Mr. Trump, labeled Amash a “big liability” in a tweet Saturday, urging followers to “defeat him in primary.”

Why would Amash be loyal to Trump.

CCTelander
05-22-2017, 09:54 AM
+rep

When did this concept become hard to grasp around here?


The moment political "victories" became more important than actual principles.

osan
05-23-2017, 04:08 PM
A reporter just tweeted the following this morning:

https://twitter.com/KatieBoWill/status/864841029853343745


And if I have the right six numbers, I win the lottery.

Is there a point to this?

Unless there is something much more to all of this, it has the stink of irrelevancy and innuendo clearly tasked to character assassination all over it.

The longer I see Trump behind the cross-hairs as Theye engage in an ever more transparently ridiculous dance in the hopes of striking some pay-dirt... ANY pay-dirt, the more I'm thinking that he may not be the bad guy so many are asserting. That doesn't mean he's my ideal for the job, but perhaps he is a whole lot better than so many deem, if for no other reason than that he's not in Theire pockets. Just speculation, of course, but if all the carrying-on is to be believed, then Trump really is a threat of some measure to the so-called "deep state", which in itself cannot be a bad thing.

Brian4Liberty
05-24-2017, 11:31 AM
Justin didn't fall for it the second time around...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBddWhIPGKA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

Superfluous Man
05-29-2017, 10:42 AM
Unless there is something much more to all of this, it has the stink of irrelevancy and innuendo clearly tasked to character assassination all over it.


Whose character would it be assassinating?

nobody's_hero
05-30-2017, 10:45 AM
Whose character would it be assassinating?

Amash's for one, and really the only one that should matter. I can see the GOP talking heads raking him over the coals for this.

This isn't a sword he needs to fall on. Leave the impeachment talk to the democrats. Let them risk their seats in Congress over it. I can think of a lot of people who would like to see Amash's time in Congress ended.

There's nothing to be gained by impeaching Trump that would be worth losing one of the few liberty Congressmen we have in D.C. Nothing. You get Trump out and Pence takes over. He's a man with only as much if not less conviction in his beliefs than Trump, he's just a better talker, a well-groomed politician—Again, not worth losing Amash to the firestorm of negative press among GOP voters that will be unleashed upon him.

Superfluous Man
05-30-2017, 05:16 PM
Amash's for one

I don't see how it does that.