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enhanced_deficit
05-16-2017, 08:53 PM
President Bush had sent NYT's disgraced "journalist" Judith Miller at the peak of Iraq war during CIA leak inquiry, is Trump really thinking of similar drastic steps?
Not clear yet if fakenews or has any basis.



05/16/2017

Trump Allegedly Urged Comey To Consider Jailing Journalists
The president’s private view comes after Attorney General Jeff Sessions refused to publicly commit to not prosecuting reporters.

By Michael Calderone
Frustrated by leaks to the news media, President Donald Trump asked former FBI director James Comey to “consider putting reporters in prison for publishing classified information,” according to the New York Times.

The closed-door meeting was revealed in the Times’ bombshell report Tuesday that Trump asked Comey to end the FBI’s investigation of Michael Flynn, who lost his job in January as national security adviser following revelations he misled the vice president about conversations with Russia’s ambassador.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-urged-comey-to-imprison-journalists_us_591b7a27e4b0a7458fa400a8






Related

http://i1.wp.com/21stcenturywire.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/1-WMD-Iraq-NYT.jpg

New York Times journalist jailedJul 7, 2005
A New York Times journalist was jailed for up to four months for contempt yesterday after she refused to reveal the source in an investigation into the leak ....

In a dramatic culmination to a two-year saga, Judith Miller was sent to a Washington DC jail for a term that will last until October, unless she relents and reveals her source.
But her fellow defendant, the Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper, avoided the same fate when he agreed to testify in an 11th-hour volte-face.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2005/jul/07/pressandpublishing.usnews

Snopes: Reports that former president Barack Obama was about to be arrested were fake news (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?508353-Snopes-Reports-that-former-president-Barack-Obama-was-about-to-be-arrested-were-fake-news&)

2003: Washington Post ran 27 editorials in favor of Iraq invasion (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?458793-2003-Washington-Post-ran-27-editorials-in-favor-of-Iraq-invasion&)

Trump: Families Of Soldiers Killed In Iraq Should Sue NYT For WMD Reporting, US made Iraq mess (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?486352-Trump-Families-Of-Soldiers-Killed-In-Iraq-Should-Sue-NYT-For-WMD-Reporting-US-made-Iraq-mess&)

President: Fake news media (NYT, NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN) is the enemy of the American People
(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?507672-President-Fake-news-media-%28NYT-NBC-ABC-CBS-CNN%29-is-the-enemy-of-the-American-People&)
Media/politicians lying to public to start wars an imprisonable offense? (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?510679-Media-politicians-lying-to-public-to-start-wars-an-imprisonable-offense&)
‘You literally caused the Iraq War’: Internet rips Judith Miller for blaming war deaths on Chelsea Manning
Judith Miller, formerly of the New York Times, said hacking investigation could be a 'tar baby' for Trump (Screen capture)

r3volution 3.0
05-16-2017, 09:26 PM
Well, it fits with what he's been saying publicly for a long time.

...not that I have any particular love for the media, but understand why Trump would want to do this.

...it's not because they're dishonest and he wants you to know the truth.

Consider that they and he are both dishonest. ;)

enhanced_deficit
05-16-2017, 09:32 PM
But from morality standpoint, important question is which one of the two is telling huge lies to start bloodbaths of wars?

That seems to be an easy question.

AuH20
05-16-2017, 09:33 PM
Why not utilize the RICO act against the leakers? They will sing like birdies once their assets are threatened. That's how the feds disbanded elements of the Mafia. The leakers aren't really the main course, but the only path to the big fish are through them.

UWDude
05-16-2017, 09:40 PM
Well, it fits with what he's been saying publicly for a long time.

...not that I have any particular love for the media, but understand why Trump would want to do this.

...it's not because they're dishonest and he wants you to know the truth.

Consider that they and he are both dishonest. ;)


He may be dishonest. and if "reporters" were worth more than the propaganda operation mockingbird CIA marionettes they are, we maybe would know why and how he is dishonest.

As of right now, all I can see is a very dishonest and evil media, complicit in the crimes of the deep state.

r3volution 3.0
05-16-2017, 09:52 PM
But from morality standpoint, important question is which one of the two is telling huge lies to start bloodbaths of wars?

That seems to be an easy question.

Another question which one might want to bounce around one's noggin is who's been bombing the Mid-East since January.

AFAIK, the WaPo doesn't have Reaper Drones at their command.

UWDude
05-16-2017, 09:58 PM
Another question which one might want to bounce around one's noggin is who's been bombing the Mid-East since January.


Assad, Putin, Trump, Abadi, Obama. My outrage at bombing Al Queada and ISIS has always been small. Even with the innocent civilians caught in the bombings.
My outrage always peaks when governments are bombed and destabilized, so al queada and ISIS can flourish. I do not, and never believed government was completely unnecessary, that police are unnecessary, that the fire department should be private, taxes are theft, etc. etc.

r3volution 3.0
05-16-2017, 10:00 PM
He may be dishonest. and if "reporters" were worth more than the propaganda operation mockingbird CIA marionettes they are, we maybe would know why and how he is dishonest.

We knew why/how he was dishonest in excruciating detail from August 2015.

Maybe you missed it.

Trump Opposition Research Thread (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?480115-Trump-Opposition-Research-Thread)


As of right now, all I can see is a very dishonest and evil media, complicit in the crimes of the deep state.

Which specific crimes are you referencing, in which WaPo et al are complicit, but the current droning-POTUS isn't?

r3volution 3.0
05-16-2017, 10:02 PM
Assad, Putin, Trump, Abadi, Obama. My outrage at bombing Al Queada and ISIS has always been small. Even with the innocent civilians caught in the bombings.
My outrage always peaks when governments are bombed and destabilized, so al queada and ISIS can flourish. I do not, and never believed government was completely unnecessary, that police are unnecessary, that the fire department should be private, taxes are theft, etc. etc.

So, you were outraged when Trump bombed Assad, right?

I was.

...difference, I suppose, is that I wasn't surprised.

enhanced_deficit
05-16-2017, 10:02 PM
AFAIK, the WaPo doesn't have Reaper Drones at their command.

Good point, drone program used to be generally under special agencies control and even the most neoconish of media owners do not run their own drones to bomb peoples in other countries.
Still, they wrote 27 editorials though.


Feb 17, 2014
Under Amazon’s CIA Cloud: The Washington Post




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/norman-solomon/under-amazons-cia-cloud-t_b_4467265.html

UWDude
05-16-2017, 10:07 PM
So, you were outraged when Trump bombed Assad, right?

I was.

...difference, I suppose, is that I wasn't surprised.

Yes. And I was outraged when Sean Spicer read a comment last night during the press conference that Assad needs to recognize his atrocities, and that there can be no peace in Syria while Assad is in power.

r3volution 3.0
05-16-2017, 10:08 PM
Good point, drone program used to be generally under special agencies control and even the most neoconish of media owners do not run their own drones to bomb peoples in other countries.
Still, they wrote 27 editorials though.

I'll wager (don't have the figures in front of me) that Trump's launched more than 27 drone strikes.

And the drone strikes he has launched have killed well over 27 people, incl. a large number of small children.

So, please, tell me more about how he's fighting the "deep state," or whatever the fuck the delusion du jour is.

CPUd
05-16-2017, 10:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUoqbbneOFc

AuH20
05-16-2017, 10:10 PM
I'll wager (don't have the figures in front of me) that Trump's launched more than 27 drone strikes.

And the drone strikes he has launched have killed well over 27 people, incl. a large number of small children.

So, please, tell me more about how he's fighting the "deep state," or whatever the $#@! the delusion du jour is.

It's far more complex than this. A man cannot serve two masters. That's what is playing out.

UWDude
05-16-2017, 10:12 PM
We knew why/how he was dishonest in excruciating detail from August 2015.

Maybe you missed it.

Trump Opposition Research Thread (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?480115-Trump-Opposition-Research-Thread)

Yeah, a ton of that later was shown to be completely false. Most of it was fake news. And the constant outrage from people like you about everything Trump does, earns you absolutely nothing but my loathing. I really, do truly hate you, and CPUd and Zippy. And if there was a big red button I could push, to make you three disappear from the face of the earth, and I could get away with it, I would push it in an instant. Indeed, if that meant eliminating your families too, I would still push it. Indeed, I would even be HAPPIER to push it, EVEN if they hated you too. (which I am sure, most of your family hates you, and I know the three of you have no friends or life by your post counts alone, losers).

All you losers have time for obviously is watching lame television and movies, and posting on the internet. How do I know how much lame movies and TV you losers watch? By the lack of reality in your empty heads, and the inordinate amount of stupid gifs from said movies, many of which are movies and tv shows nobody else ever even watches. Clearly the three of your are passionate/paid enough that this clearly is not the only forums you losers wrack up literally 15 - 20 posts a day on like CPUd.

Nobody wants to listen, think, or be ruled by people who literally spend their life trolling and arguing online. Nobody wants to be like the three of you. NOBODY. It is a twisted nightmarish idea to even consider living the empty, pointless, lives you three losers spend in front of your screen... ..and yet you dumb tools claim to have the answers. If you had the answers, you losers would do something better with your pathetic lives, then make everybody in the world hate your guts.

Don't feel special though, there is a list of about 10,000 people who I would gladly wipe out, with their families and children, if I were ever handed that power.


Which specific crimes are you referencing, in which WaPo et al are complicit, but the current droning-POTUS isn't?

Well, the Russia narrative, which is trying to tie trumps hands and make him play their version of foreign policy ball, for one. the whole North Korea Crisis narrative. the whole Assad is a butcher narrative. the whole cover up of everything Clinton and Obama did during the last 8 years, and the continuing cover up of that.

As if Trump is actually covering for Clinton and Obama. Give me a break, fool.

Where's that BIG RED BUTTON!?

enhanced_deficit
05-16-2017, 10:12 PM
So, you were outraged when Trump bombed Assad, right?

I was.

...difference, I suppose, is that I wasn't surprised.

Curious have you been more outraged with this alleged bombing of runways in Syria or Obama's drone strikes of last 8 years?
Do you agree with Trump that Obama was founder of ISIS?

r3volution 3.0
05-16-2017, 10:26 PM
Curious have you been more outraged with this alleged bombing of runways in Syria or Obama's drone strikes of last 8 years?

http://i1.tinypic.com/7yefk3t.gif

Curious that you attempt to defend Trump by implying that anyone criticizing him supported Obama.

...smells like desperation.

Smells like shit bud.


Do you agree with Trump that Obama was founder of ISIS?

I agree that Bush created the vacuum which ISIS filled, and then the war came to Syria. Obama funded ISIS for years, because these fucking monsters would rather have ISIS than Assad (i.e. Russian influence in Syria), never mind the 500,000 deaths. And Trump is pursuing exactly the same policy. You should probably get his balls out of your mouth,

enhanced_deficit
05-16-2017, 10:48 PM
Curious have you been more outraged with this alleged bombing of runways in Syria or Obama's drone strikes of last 8 years?



Curious that you attempt to defend Trump by implying that anyone criticizing him supported Obama.

...smells like desperation.




Thought you supported Hillary over Trump from various discussions in 2016 Elections secition, and had not seen you express outrage about DGP's war crimes or of SWC Hillary's with the same passion you found once Trump showed up. So it was natural question if you liked Obama over Trump too since not much difference between Hillary & Obama on these issues.
As you didn't answer the question, will file it under mysteries. There are few other vocal critics of Trump here too who tend to get shy when asked about their views about SWC HIllary/disgraced DGP (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?502216-Erection-2008-Video-Surfaces-Of-Obama-Flaunting-His-Junk-to-Reporters-on-Campaign-Plane&p=6451014&viewfull=1#post6451014).

r3volution 3.0
05-16-2017, 11:00 PM
Thought you supported Hillary over Trump from various discussions in 2016 Elections secition

I decided to vote LP the day Rand dropped out.

...well before that, in fact, as Rand not being the nominee was always a consideration.

I never considered voting Trumpllary.

Only a fucking idiot would do that.

But...


and had not seen you express outrage about DGP's war crimes or of SWC Hillary's with the same passion you found once Trump showed up. So it was natural question if you liked Obama over Trump too since not much difference between Hillary & Obama on these issues.
As you didn't answer the question, will file it under mysteries. There are few other vocal critics of Trump here too who tend to get shy when asked about their views about SWC HIllary/disgraced DGP (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?502216-Erection-2008-Video-Surfaces-Of-Obama-Flaunting-His-Junk-to-Reporters-on-Campaign-Plane&p=6451014&viewfull=1#post6451014).

Right, well, I'm just going to call you a Trump NatSoc.

enhanced_deficit
05-16-2017, 11:08 PM
Yea ofcourse, LP.
Sadly Putin interferred in our sacred election process and DGP supported or rather his political slave owners financed "most qualified candidate" was sent packing.



What will the election results map look like on the morning of November 9th?


Here's my prediction:

http://imgur.com/DrZeJUS.png

Had you invested some time in a "Hillary Opposition Research" thread to counter your predicted Hillary surge, who knows LP could have had a shot.

r3volution 3.0
05-16-2017, 11:44 PM
Yea ofcourse, LP.
Sadly Putin interferred in our sacred election process and DGP supported or rather his political slave owners financed "most qualified candidate" was sent packing.

...not sure what those words are supposed to mean.

Are you a native English speaker?

In any event, yes, woman-Trump lost to man-Trump. It's true.

CPUd
05-16-2017, 11:56 PM
No plans yet announced for disgraced DGP (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?499188-Majority-of-Americans-Find-Donald-Trump-Dishonest-and-Untrustworthy) to shut down the internet, perhaps a meeting with Bill Gates pending.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UKsg0sfEUM

Related:
Trump wants to "close the internet" in some areas. (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?486339-Trump-wants-to-quot-close-the-internet-quot-in-some-areas)
Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to 'close up' the internet (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?486359-Donald-Trump-thinks-he-can-call-Bill-Gates-to-close-up-the-internet)
U.S. Drone Strikes Have Gone Up 432% Since Trump Took Office (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?508481-U-S-Drone-Strikes-Have-Gone-Up-432-Since-Trump-Took-Office)

r3volution 3.0
05-17-2017, 12:09 AM
The internet has terrific words, the best words...