US Marine arrested for his tweet to Newsweek's writer Kurt Eichenwald

[enhanced_deficit]

Reportedly a US Marine with PTSD from tours of Iraq and Afghanistan was arrested for his tweet to Newsweek's Kurt Eichenwald.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZzL2cJpaEM
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Mar 21, 2017

Maryland Man Charged After Tweet Triggers Reporter’s Seizure

A Dallas grand jury says that a GIF was used as a “deadly weapon.”

By Carla Herreria

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A Twitter message that caused a Dallas journalist with epilepsy to suffer a seizure led to assault charges against a Maryland man on Tuesday. It also exposed a terrifying way people with epilepsy can be attacked online.

John Rayne Rivello, 29, of Salisbury, Maryland, was charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon (http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2017/03/21/man-faces-hate-crime-charge-dallas-county-tweet-gave-kurt-eichenwald-seizure), which carries a hate-crime enhancement, The Dallas Morning News reported. He was booked at a Dallas jail Monday night and has been released on bond.


The GIF reportedly included the statement, “You deserve a seizure for your post.” When Eichenwald viewed the tweet, he suffered a seizure. Eichenwald’s lawyer told The New York Times that Eichenwald was incapacitated for days, lost feeling in his hand and had trouble speaking (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/17/technology/social-media-attack-that-set-off-a-seizure-leads-to-an-arrest.html?_r=0) for several weeks.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/arrest-seizure-gif-reporter-kurt-eichenwald_us_58cc850ae4b00705db4fc429


No reports if any GOP supporter/ family members suffered any loss due to following tweets and would be claiming damagaes:


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[angelatc]

Worth it. where's a go fund me for the marine's family?

[phill4paul]

Worth it. where's a go fund me for the marine's family?

Why don't we just organize a coupla tens of thousands people to bombard his twitter constantly?

[Jamesiv1]

Whoever thinks its wrong to cause fake news reporters to have a seizure can get the hell out.

[specsaregood]

John Rayne Rivello, 29, of Salisbury, Maryland, was charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, which carries a hate-crime enhancement,

So this guy has been charged with all that with essentially just speech. that is scary.

[jllundqu]

So this guy has been charged with all that with essentially just speech. that is scary.

That's what I don't get.... assault statutes are very particular and sending a tweet doesn't meet the standard... what a world. Assault Tweets, Meme Magic, what's next?

[timosman]

So this guy has been charged with all that with essentially just speech. that is scary.

Not if you are a liberal.

[specsaregood]

That's what I don't get.... assault statutes are very particular and sending a tweet doesn't meet the standard... what a world. Assault Tweets, Meme Magic, what's next?

Next you'll be charged with the same crimes for causing somebody to have a panic attack by calling them a ******.

[oyarde]

Whoever thinks its wrong to cause fake news reporters to have a seizure can get the hell out.

How do I even know the seizure was real ?

[oyarde]

So this guy has been charged with all that with essentially just speech. that is scary.

Correct , completely bogus . Any judge should throw it out .

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Every single thing I say--no matter how silly or stupid it seems--will instantly become your reality. Everything I say will instantly become your reality.


Concentrate on the figure below. Focus. You are getting very seizured. Veeeerrrrry seizured.......



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[Danke]

NEWSWEEK WRITER THREATENS JOURNALIST BILL MORAN OVER PEDOPHILE ALLEGATIONS
https://wearechange.org/newsweek-writer-threatens-journalist-bill-mortan-pedophile-allegations/

[Anti Federalist]

Worth it. where's a go fund me for the marine's family?

Hear hear

[Anti Federalist]

NEWSWEEK WRITER THREATENS JOURNALIST BILL MORAN OVER PEDOPHILE ALLEGATIONS
https://wearechange.org/newsweek-writer-threatens-journalist-bill-mortan-pedophile-allegations/

A real peach, this asshole...

[otherone]

[SIZE=4]Every single thing I say--no matter how silly or stupid it seems--will instantly become your reality. Everything I say will instantly become your reality.


I CONTROL YOUR MIND WITH MY WORDS
THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO
THERE IS NOWHERE YOU CAN HIDE
YOU WILL REACT AS I CHOOSE
YOU WILL BE AS I DECIDE YOU WILL BE
YOU ARE A VICTIM
YOU HAVE NOTHING
ARE NOTHING
EXCEPT WHAT I MAKE YOU
YOU ARE NOT YOU
YOU ARE A REFLECTION OF MY WILL

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[enhanced_deficit]

Worth it. where's a go fund me for the marine's family?

Thought heard in the video that his friends had set one up, MSM could be not covering or censoring that news.

[devil21]

How do I even know the seizure was real ?

99.99% it wasn't. A picture caused a seizure? Yeah right. Looks like agenda setting propaganda by the usual suspects to me.

Besides, using Twitter is a voluntary act. Reading a tweet is a voluntary act. Don't want to see things you might not want to see? Don't voluntarily sign up to do it.

[oyarde]

99.99% it wasn't. A picture caused a seizure? Yeah right. Looks like agenda setting propaganda by the usual suspects to me.

Besides, using Twitter is a voluntary act. Reading a tweet is a voluntary act. Don't want to see things you might not want to see? Don't voluntarily sign up to do it.

Yeah I am also going with the 99.99 .

[JK/SEA]

I CONTROL YOUR MIND WITH MY WORDS
THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO
THERE IS NOWHERE YOU CAN HIDE
YOU WILL REACT AS I CHOOSE
YOU WILL BE AS I DECIDE YOU WILL BE
YOU ARE A VICTIM
YOU HAVE NOTHING
ARE NOTHING
EXCEPT WHAT I MAKE YOU
YOU ARE NOT YOU
YOU ARE A REFLECTION OF MY WILL

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/tim-and-eric-mind-blown.gif

reported.

[otherone]

reported.

EXACTLY AS I WILLED YOU TO DO
I CREATE
YOU REACT
(loser)

[r3volution 3.0]

A picture caused a seizure? Yeah right.

Photosensitive Epilepsy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosensitive_epilepsy)


Besides, using Twitter is a voluntary act. Reading a tweet is a voluntary act. Don't want to see things you might not want to see? Don't voluntarily sign up to do it.

Opening one's mail is a voluntary act.

It is okay to mail someone a cobra?


That's what I don't get.... assault statutes are very particular and sending a tweet doesn't meet the standard...

"Deadly weapon" usually means anything that can cause death - not just things designed to do so.

e.g. peanut butter could be a deadly weapon if thrown at somebody with a severe allergy

From the Texas statute:


17. "Deadly weapon" means:
(A) a firearm or anything manifestly designed, made, or adapted for the purpose of inflicting death or serious bodily injury; or
(B) anything that in the manner of its use or intended use is capable of causing death or serious bodily injury.

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/docs/PE/htm/PE.1.htm

[JK/SEA]

EXACTLY AS I WILLED YOU TO DO
I CREATE
YOU REACT
(loser)

i rejected your mind trick.

reported anyway.

[otherone]

i rejected your mind trick.

reported anyway.

I wanted you to do that.

[devil21]

Photosensitive Epilepsy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosensitive_epilepsy)

Opening one's mail is a voluntary act.

Indeed it is.



It is okay to mail someone a cobra?

That's a pretty lame comparison for so many reasons.....but sure, why not. No one is required to open a package without knowing who sent it, what it contains and whether the contents may personally be a risk to that person. I used to work in IT and was always amazed how many people clicked on random links in spam email then were surprised that their computer started flashing porn popups at them. Based on the employee policy manual they should have been fired for having porn on their computer. Of course they weren't but they could have been. All because they didn't stop and question whether they were engaging in a risky behavior voluntarily.

So where is the personal responsibility for engaging in an activity without performing due diligence beforehand?

Regardless, given the purveyor of propaganda nature of the complainant in the OP article, I wouldn't believe him if he told me it was raining outside until I checked for myself.

[JK/SEA]

I wanted you to do that.


i was lying...

[otherone]

i was lying...

I know.
I made you lie.

[JK/SEA]

I know.
I made you lie.

i made you think i was lying.

[r3volution 3.0]

sure, why not. No one is required to open a package without knowing who sent it, what it contains and whether the contents may personally be a risk to that person...So where is the personal responsibility for engaging in an activity without performing due diligence beforehand?

Let's explore this further with another hypothetical...

Woman goes for a naked stroll in the bad part of town at 3am, gets raped.

Did the rapist commit a crime?

I say yes, of course, he raped someone: notwithstanding that the woman behaved stupidly (didn't do 'due diligence,' as you put it).

What do you say?

[devil21]

Let's explore this further with another hypothetical...

Woman goes for a naked stroll in the bad part of town at 3am, gets raped.

Did the rapist commit a crime?

I say yes, of course, he raped someone: notwithstanding that the woman behaved stupidly (didn't do 'due diligence,' as you put it).

What do you say?

I don't know and I don't care. I don't deal in hypotheticals since there's no end to crazy, unrealistic scenarios that can be concocted to try to make a point. My comparison was a real world example that happens every day. If you wish to field a realistic example, instead of mailing cobras and nude park strolls in the middle of the night, maybe I'd engage further. Other than that, I'll just say that propagandists gonna propagandize and leave it at that.

[r3volution 3.0]

I don't know and I don't care. I don't deal in hypotheticals since there's no end to crazy, unrealistic scenarios that can be concocted to try to make a point. My comparison was a real world example that happens every day. If you wish to field a realistic example, instead of mailing cobras and nude park strolls in the middle of the night, maybe I'd engage further. Other than that, I'll just say that propagandists gonna propagandize and leave it at that.

Bottom line - a criminal shouldn't get a pass just because his victim failed to take precautions against criminals.

...Rapists shouldn't get a pass just because their victims are stupid naked women walking the streets at 3am.

...Robbers shouldn't get a pass just because their victims stupidly forgot to lock their doors.

...etc

And guys who send seizure-inducing GIFs to epileptics shouldn't get a pass just because their victims read their tweets.

BTW, I'm not saying the guy in the OP is actually guilty (don't have all the facts), just talking about the underlying principles.

[enhanced_deficit]

...

BTW, I'm not saying the guy in the OP is actually guilty (don't have all the facts), just talking about the underlying principles.

Using similar logic, would you say arrest of Kurt could be warranted if his following tweet caused serious anxiety attack/reaction for some Trump supporter/family member who suffered from PTSD following service in Iraq/Afghan wars ?

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[r3volution 3.0]

Using similar logic, would you say arrest of Kurt could be warranted if his following tweet caused serious anxiety attack/reaction for some Trump supporter/family member who suffered from PTSD following service in Iraq/Afghan wars ?

No, I don't think people should be liable for any "emotional distress" they cause - only physical injury.

[enhanced_deficit]

No, I don't think people should be liable for any "emotional distress" they cause - only physical injury.

If you ask experts in neuro medical science, they will say that emotions can and do trigger/cause physical illnesses.

How emotions cause disease and illness


THE PHYSICAL IMPACT As the electrical current of an emotion travels along your neural pathways, it triggers a release of chemical proteins called neuro-peptides (NPs). Each emotion has its own individual frequency. In response to each specific emotional frequency, your body releases corresponding NP's
NP's communicate chemical messages throughout your body, creating physiological responses. Adrenaline, hormones, oxytoxin, endorphins--these are all examples of NPs. Each neuro-peptide creates such specific biological responses, that physical symptoms can actually pinpoint what's really happening in your unconscious mind!

http://www.enlightenedfeelings.com/body.html