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Valli6
05-05-2017, 09:51 AM
https://twitter.com/RandPaul
"I have formally requested from the WH and the Intel Committees info on whether I was surveilled by Obama admin and or the Intel community!"
"Did the Obama admin go after presidential candidates, members of Congress, journalists, clergy, lawyers, fed judges?"
"Did the Obama admin use warrantless "wiretapping" on other candidates besides @realDonaldTrump?" http://circa.com/politics/circa-asks-president-trump-to-declassify-data-on-nsa-spying-on-americans …


Hey Mr. President, tear down the veil of secrecy surrounding unmasked NSA intercepts
by Circa News - May 5, 2017

Circa has formally requested that the Trump administration declassify records showing how often government officials have searched National Security Agency intercepts for intelligence on U.S. presidential candidates, members of Congress, journalists, clergy, lawyers, federal judges and doctors and how often such Americans had their identities unmasked by the intelligence community after Barack Obama made it easier to do so in 2011....
(also a video) http://circa.com/politics/circa-asks-president-trump-to-declassify-data-on-nsa-spying-on-americans


Rand Paul wants to know if the Obama administration ever spied on him
by Alex Pappas | May 5, 2017, 9:57 AM
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rand-paul-wants-to-know-if-the-obama-administration-ever-spied-on-him/article/2622218


President Obama's team sought NSA intel on thousands of Americans during the 2016 election
by John Solomon - May 4, 2017

During his final year in office, President Obama's team significantly expanded efforts to search National Security Agency intercepts for information about Americans, distributing thousands of intelligence reports across government with the unredacted names of U.S. residents during the midst of a divisive 2016 presidential election.

The data, made available this week by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, provides the clearest evidence to date of how information accidentally collected by the NSA overseas about Americans was subsequently searched and disseminated after President Obama loosened privacy protections to make such sharing easier in 2011 in the name of national security. A court affirmed his order.

The revelations are particularly sensitive since the NSA is legally forbidden from directly spying on Americans and its authority to conduct warrantless searches on foreigners is up for renewal in Congress later this year. And it comes as lawmakers investigate President Trump's own claims that his privacy was violated by his predecessor during the 2016 election.

In all, government officials conducted 30,355 searches in 2016 seeking information about Americans in NSA intercept metadata, which include telephone numbers and email addresses. The activity amounted to a 27.5 percent increase over the prior year and more than triple the 9,500 such searches that occurred in 2013, the first year such data was kept.

The government in 2016 also scoured the actual contents of NSA intercepted calls and emails for 5,288 Americans, an increase of 13 percent over the prior year and a massive spike from the 198 names searched in 2013.

The searches ultimately resulted in 3,134 NSA intelligence reports with unredacted U.S. names being distributed across government in 2016, and another 3,354 reports in 2015. About half the time, U.S. identities were unredacted in the original reports while the other half were unmasked after the fact by special request of Obama administration officials.

Among those whose names were unmasked in 2016 or early 2017 were campaign or transition associates of President Trump as well as members of Congress and their staffers, according to sources with direct knowledge.

The data kept by ODNI is missing some information from one of the largest consumers of NSA intelligence, the FBI, and officials acknowledge the numbers are likely much higher when the FBI’s activity is added.
(more, video) http://circa.com/politics/president-obamas-team-sought-nsa-intel-on-thousands-of-americans-during-the-2016-election

on drudge now...


Rand Paul requests info on whether Obama surveilled him
BY JOE UCHILL - 05/05/17 11:21 AM EDT

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) says he has asked the intelligence community and White House for any evidence that he was surveilled by former President Barack Obama.

"I have formally requested from the WH and the Intel Committees info on whether I was surveilled by Obama admin and or the Intel community!" Paul tweeted Friday.

The tweet appears to build off of President Trump's claim, presented without evidence, that the Obama administration wiretapped Trump Tower during last year's presidential race.

FBI Director James Comey has flatly denied any direct surveillance of the Trump campaign....
(The Hill) http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/332084-rand-paul-requests-info-on-whether-obama-surveilled-him

Valli6
05-05-2017, 11:39 AM
Rand received info from an anonymous source, Sent Trump a letter about it on April 10, 2017. Sent additional copies to Bannon and Priebus.


Rand Paul: Obama may have spied on me, other lawmakers using NSA intercepts
by John Solomon - May 5, 2017

Paul quietly asked for the probe nearly a month ago in a letter to Trump that was obtained by Circa.

"An anonymous source recently alleged to me that my name, as well as the names of other Members of Congress, were unmasked, queried or both, in intelligence reports of intercepts during the prior administration," Paul wrote Trump in a letter dated April 10.

"In light of the revelations that the names of persons associated with the Trump campaign were unmasked, I believe the allegations that myself and other elected members of the legislative branch may have also been unmasked or caught in intelligence gathering warrants investigation."

The emergence of the letter, which also was copied to White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus and senior Trump adviser Steve Bannon, comes after Circa recently reported that members of Congress and their staffs have been unmasked in NSA intelligence reports as frequently as once a month since President Obama loosened privacy protections back in 2011...

...Paul's letter offered no further detail on the source of the allegations of any specific incident or intercepts.

A source in the intelligence community told Circa on Friday that they were unaware of any unmaskings of NSA intercepts that occurred in 2016 when Paul was running for president that would have required a notification to Congress. The source did not know about prior years.

Usually if the intelligence community reveals the identity of a lawmaker in an NSA intercept, Congress gets what is known as a Gates notification.
(See letter) http://circa.com/politics/rand-paul-obama-may-have-spied-on-me-other-lawmakers-using-nsa-intercepts

Now on breitbart, too:


“We’ve had several people come to us and say that it happened. I don’t have access to that information, but I’ve been very concerned that too many Americans’ information is being culled through without a warrant,” he told Breitbart News.

“I don’t have any facts to say it happened,” he said. “But numerous sources are coming to us saying it did happen so I want to search through, find out why I wasn’t notified. Was it on purpose?”

“There’s a lot of things to be found out, particularly since we found out that Susan Rice was unmasking people and we need to know was there a political motivation, because one of the real dangers in a free society is if government gets so powerful it’s listening to all of our phone calls, the possibility of extortion, the possibility of blackmail — all of that goes up exponentially,” he said.

Earlier in the day, Paul revealed that he had requested information from the White House and the intelligence community on whether he was surveilled by the Obama administration or the intelligence community.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/05/05/exclusive-rand-paul-says-obama-administration-may-have-spied-on-his-campaign/

CaptUSA
05-05-2017, 11:57 AM
Rand Paul wants to know if he was spied on, too

Here's a hint, Rand: you were.

And are. We all are.

nikcers
05-05-2017, 07:38 PM
Here's a hint, Rand: you were.

And are. We all are. Yeah but isn't it a little different if the Obama administration used it for political gain against Rand Paul, or even against the American public? It's one thing to look at my records, but an entire different thing to look at the records of people that hold public office and use it for nefarious reasons. It's one thing to interfere with hundreds of elections outside of our country, but interfering with our elections to me is worse. You can argue killing one person is just as wrong as killing 10,000 people, but to me it's worse. Those bastards who are working for our country, collecting a paycheck from our taxes should be doing it to protect things like our election, our election is scared, it is precious, and I just hope that we haven't forgotten that as a country as a result of this fake news election.

CaptUSA
05-05-2017, 08:00 PM
Yeah but isn't it a little different if the Obama administration used it for political gain against Rand Paul, or even against the American public? It's one thing to look at my records, but an entire different thing to look at the records of people that hold public office and use it for nefarious reasons. It's one thing to interfere with hundreds of elections outside of our country, but interfering with our elections to me is worse. You can argue killing one person is just as wrong as killing 10,000 people, but to me it's worse. Those bastards who are working for our country, collecting a paycheck from our taxes should be doing it to protect things like our election, our election is scared, it is precious, and I just hope that we haven't forgotten that as a country as a result of this fake news election.

Yep. I worry more about the politicians of the future, though. Imagine growing up with your whole life being recorded and monitored... They'll know every possible pressure point, every dirty secret, every indication of an independent thought. There's no way a real person will ever make it through.

eleganz
05-05-2017, 08:18 PM
Rands team is smart releasing this information right as healthcare goes into the senate. Now rand can push both narratives with synergy and merit, epic!

Rand media storm to come?

enhanced_deficit
05-06-2017, 05:35 AM
This scandal keeps growing:


Rand Paul requests info on whether Obama surveilled him

By Joe Uchill - 05/05/17 11:21 AM



http://content.newsinc.com/jpg/2124/32364878/55617487.jpg?t=1493987880


Sen. Rand Paul (http://thehill.com/people/rand-paul) (R-Ky.) says he has asked the intelligence community and White House for any evidence that he was surveilled by former President Barack Obama.
"I have formally requested from the WH and the Intel Committees info on whether I was surveilled by Obama admin and or the Intel community!" Paul tweeted (https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/860482401109258242) Friday.
The tweet appears to build off of President Trump's claim, presented without evidence, that the Obama administration wiretapped Trump Tower during last year's presidential race.

http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/332084-rand-paul-requests-info-on-whether-obama-surveilled-him




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Valli6
05-06-2017, 08:16 AM
This scandal keeps growing:

Kucinich: I Was Wiretapped As A Congressman, Obama's wars created these refugees (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?508560-Kucinich-I-Was-Wiretapped-As-A-Congressman-Obama-s-wars-created-these-refugees&)

Woah. Forgot about Kucinich's claim. He says he was wiretapped while he was speaking to Gaddafi's son and trying to prevent Obama/Clinton from destroying Libya. Intel was tracking Kucinich's resolution to try and prevent the war. He only found out about it two years after he left congress - because two reporters from the Washington Times played a recording of it for him. Here's that video.

Congressman Kucinich says he was wiretapped (4:34)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfT0Yv-0sHs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfT0Yv-0sHs

jllundqu
05-08-2017, 10:51 AM
From ZH:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-08/rand-paul-obama-spied-me-using-nsa-intercepts


Sen. Rand Paul, the former Republican presidential candidate and vocal champion of civil liberties, has received allegations that the Obama administration sought intercepted intelligence from the National Security Agency on him and other members of Congress and has asked President Donald Trump to conduct a formal investigation, Circa has learned.

Paul quietly asked for the probe nearly a month ago in a letter to Trump that was obtained by Circa.






"An anonymous source recently alleged to me that my name, as well as the names of other Members of Congress, were unmasked, queried or both, in intelligence reports of intercepts during the prior administration," Paul wrote Trump in a letter dated April 10.



"In light of the revelations that the names of persons associated with the Trump campaign were unmasked, I believe the allegations that myself and other elected members of the legislative branch may have also been unmasked or caught in intelligence gathering warrants investigation."

The emergence of the letter, which also was copied to White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus and senior Trump adviser Steve Bannon, comes after Circa recently reported that members of Congress and their staffs have been unmasked in NSA intelligence reports as frequently as once a month since President Obama loosened privacy protections back in 2011.


http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2017/05/06/20170508_paul1_0.jpg


Paul's letter offered no further detail on the source of the allegations of any specific incident or intercepts.

A source in the intelligence community told Circa on Friday that they were unaware of any unmaskings of NSA intercepts that occurred in 2016 when Paul was running for president that would have required a notification to Congress. The source did not know about prior years.

Usually if the intelligence community reveals the identity of a lawmaker in an NSA intercept, Congress gets what is known as a Gates notification.

Paul has been a critic of the government use of NSA intercepts to spy on Americans and championed other civil liberty causes, most famously conducting a 13-hour filllibuster in 2013 on the Senate floor to raise concerns that U.S. millitary could use drones to strike U.S. citizens on U.S. soil.


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jllundqu
05-08-2017, 10:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ej2b2QuOxA

Brian4Liberty
05-08-2017, 11:12 AM
Considering that it is widely thought that the Democrats believed before the POTUS election cycle started that Rand was the greatest threat to winning with a cross over appeal, it is highly likely that they did spy on him.

devil21
05-08-2017, 12:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIA1lQBqH1s

timosman
05-08-2017, 12:21 PM
I like Rand's signature on the Trump's letter.:cool:

devil21
05-08-2017, 12:32 PM
I like Rand's signature on the Trump's letter.:cool:

The spitting image of dear old dad's siggie.

randbot16
05-08-2017, 02:52 PM
I won't hold my breath on any real investigation into this ever taking place, though its pretty much out in the open that the NSA continuously has access to millions of American's communications, so maybe Rand is just trying to direct attention back to that... I think a majority of the public has had it beat into their heads that that i just par for the course in our brave new world.

Jamesiv1
05-08-2017, 03:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ej2b2QuOxA
Blue jacket, purple shirt, green tie, red lapel pin.

really?

jllundqu
05-08-2017, 03:34 PM
Blue jacket, purple shirt, green tie, red lapel pin.

really?

I'd bet he was also in his blue jeans and boots. lmao

silverhandorder
05-08-2017, 04:47 PM
Yeah but isn't it a little different if the Obama administration used it for political gain against Rand Paul, or even against the American public? It's one thing to look at my records, but an entire different thing to look at the records of people that hold public office and use it for nefarious reasons. It's one thing to interfere with hundreds of elections outside of our country, but interfering with our elections to me is worse. You can argue killing one person is just as wrong as killing 10,000 people, but to me it's worse. Those bastards who are working for our country, collecting a paycheck from our taxes should be doing it to protect things like our election, our election is scared, it is precious, and I just hope that we haven't forgotten that as a country as a result of this fake news election.

So Trump was right.

devil21
05-09-2017, 01:20 AM
I'd bet he was also in his blue jeans and boots. lmao

Who cares if he was standing there in his boxers? Stay on topic.

Valli6
05-10-2017, 01:41 PM
Around 2:45 of this video, Rand says it was "two reporters" that told him he was being spied on. Soooo, could it be the same two reporters (from Washington Times) that told Kucinich he was spied on?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRIc3P48Kkc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRIc3P48Kkc
(This video is from the Trump-fires-Comy thread: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?510468-President-Trump-fires-FBI-Director-James-Comey&p=6466211#post6466211 )

Jan2017
05-13-2017, 07:53 AM
Blue jacket, purple shirt, green tie, red lapel pin.

really? noticeably more gray hair ?


Here's a hint, Rand: you were.


Rand already gave the hint he was in particular being "wired" if that is the right colloquial to use . . .

With Hannity he said that "When they (NSA/intel) are listening in on Congress phone conversations, they should just hang up."
It was around the time the NSA computer caught an accusation on the US Senate floor a Senator from Kentucky was working as a double agent or something (?)

Imagine a US Senator and Kremlin double agent !


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc3flN17_fw