TRUMP: 'I'm a nationalist and a globalist. I'm both'...

[William Tell]

Craig Fuller, who served eight years in former President Ronald Reagan’s White House, said in an interview: “The trouble here is I don’t see how you get a course correction when there isn’t a course. It’s just erratic.


“He needs to go look at the two factions inside the White House and get rid of one of them. You can’t operate that way in the White House.”


Mr. Trump dismissed talk about a split inside his White House between aides with a nationalist or globalist orientation. “Hey, I’m a nationalist and a globalist,” he said. “I’m both. And I’m the only one who makes the decision, believe me.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-says-nafta-partners-persuaded-him-to-keep-u-s-in-trade-pact-1493320127

[Jan2017]

Craig Fuller, who served eight years in former President Ronald Reagan’s White House, said in an interview: “The trouble here is I don’t see how you get a course correction when there isn’t a course. It’s just erratic.


http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u494/81502/trumpmissle02_zpswc4bzw7w.jpg (http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/81502/media/trumpmissle02_zpswc4bzw7w.jpg.html)

[jllundqu]

lmao.... In B4 someone explains what trump really meant.

[nikcers]

lmao.... In B4 someone explains what trump really meant.

"In this case, the solution is clear. We will have to leave borders behind and go for global unity when it comes to financial stability."

[Occam's Banana]

Thesis ... Antithesis ... Synthesis ...

[Suzanimal]

He goes both ways. Not surprising.

[dannno]

lmao.... In B4 someone explains what trump really meant.

What do you really think he meant? Was he using the word globalist in the noun or adjective form?



glob·al·ist

ˈɡlōbəlist/

noun

noun: globalist; plural noun: globalists



1.
a person who advocates the interpretation or planning of economic and foreign policy in relation to events and developments throughout the world.

a person or organization advocating or practicing operations across national divisions.







adjective

adjective: globalist



1.
relating to or advocating the operation or planning of economic and foreign policy on a global basis.







Do you think there can be globalist spectrum, or is globalism binary? Would you prefer someone who is a globalist, but NOT a nationalist? Do you think somebody can be both a globalist and a nationalist?

[dannno]

Thesis ... Antithesis ... Synthesis ...

Right, exactly, I think you have it.

Trump wants to work within the global economy and make trade deals with other nations, while keeping US national interests first.

The people that those of us around here refer to as "globalists" generally tend to put America last.

[TheCount]

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u494/81502/trumpmissle02_zpswc4bzw7w.jpg (http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/81502/media/trumpmissle02_zpswc4bzw7w.jpg.html)

FTFY:
http://i.imgur.com/ZNLXhRC.jpgp

[enhanced_deficit]

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u494/81502/trumpmissle02_zpswc4bzw7w.jpg (http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/81502/media/trumpmissle02_zpswc4bzw7w.jpg.html)

Looking at Trump's fakish bombing of Syrian runway, question could be asked is he now adopting dumb Syria policy of DGP & neocons / is he also being bought by DGP's PSOs (Political slave owners)?

http://grrrgraphics.com/uploads/7/4/7/3/74734153/9577329_orig.jpg




Or is there a difference between their Syria policy?

Hope this is not the case in the long run and he learns from early blunders.


BTW, that cartoon needs to be updated to remove Bannon and Haley given recent developments.

Nikki Haley needs State Department approval for future statements: Report (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?509503-Could-it-be-that-Nimrata-quot-Nikki-quot-Haley-is-the-new-version-of-disgraced-Colin-Powell&p=6459895&viewfull=1#post6459895)

by Joel Gehrke | Apr 28, 2017
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson wants U.S. Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley to run her remarks by State Department officials "if they are on a high-profile issue such as Syria, Iran, Israel-Palestine, or the D.P.R.K."

[AuH20]

He's messed up. Both the Daughter and son-in-law need to be permanently sent on a fact finding mission to Antarctica.

[CPUd]

https://i.imgur.com/N45k7y6.png

[phill4paul]

I'm for a republic and for a democracy.

I'm for a Federalist Government and for State rights.

I'm for the second amendment and for restrictions.................

[William Tell]

Do you think there can be globalist spectrum, or is globalism binary? Would you prefer someone who is a globalist, but NOT a nationalist? Do you think somebody can be both a globalist and a nationalist?

Yes. Clearly we should elect people who are both interventionists and non-interventionists. That would bring us closer to where we need to be.

[William Tell]

Ha Ha a 1 star rating from someone in denial.

[phill4paul]

Yes. Clearly we should elect people who are both interventionists and non-interventionists. That would bring us closer to where we need to be.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to William Tell again. I can't give anybody reps tonight. :o

[Working Poor]

F U Trump

[Occam's Banana]

Thesis ... Antithesis ... Synthesis ...
Right, exactly, I think you have it.

Trump wants to work within the global economy and make trade deals with other nations, while keeping US national interests first.

The people that those of us around here refer to as "globalists" generally tend to put America last.

That he is the embodiment of Hegelian dialectic is not in Trump's favor ...

[Philmanoman]

It's a different kind of globalist though dudes.The best kind...
Economic globalist

[CPUd]

He also supports both a one-state solution and a two-state solution for Israel and Palestine.

[JK/SEA]

fake news.

[Jan2017]

"Globalism refers to a group of ideologies that advocate the concept of globalization."

"It tends to advocate for such policies as increases in immigration, free trade, lowering tariffs, interventionism
and global governance."

"It is typically viewed as opposite of nationalism, and has become increasingly divisive in politics in many developed countries, such as the United States"

"Professor James defines globalism at least in its more specific use ... as the [dominant ideology] and subjectivity associated with different historically-dominant formations of global extension."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalism

* Prof. Paul James is Professor of Globalization and Cultural Diversity at Western Sydney University, and Director of the Institute for Culture and Society where he has been since 2014. He is a writer on globalization, sustainability, and social theory.

[dannno]

It's a different kind of globalist though dudes.The best kind...
Economic globalist

So more like free market globalism?

[undergroundrr]

Economic globalism is fantastic. https://mises.org/blog/economic-globalization-not-political-globalization

Economic nationalism, political globalism and political nationalism are terrible. One should run from them.

Anyhow, the idea that trump is 1/3 to 1/2 right is reason to rejoice. Quite an improvement in the first 100 days.

[Indy Vidual]

Perhaps Trump is not prepared to be President?

[liveandletlive]

http://i.imgur.com/DqAYR6a.jpg

[LibertyEagle]

Perhaps Trump is not prepared to be President?

Once Rand dropped out, who would you have preferred?

[CPUd]

Once Rand dropped out, who would you have preferred?

What part of "No One But Paul" don't you understand?

[LibertyEagle]

childish picture More pile on with the gang, I see. Takes a lot of courage to do that. Applause all around.

Trump axed the Trans Pacific Partnership on the first day. THAT is winning. A whole ton of regulations have been killed too. Not to mention Gorsuch being nominated and now in the Supreme Court. That's also winning. I am also very hopeful for complete revamps of the current multilateral trade deals, or getting out of those where that is not possible. That would also be winning for our country.

Trump has been far from perfect and God knows there has been plenty of threads pointing out where he was wrong. That's good. But, these broad brush threads posting the cutesy pictures are childish and ignorant.

Do tell. Who would you have preferred win the Presidency after Rand dropped out and please provide specifics as to how you believe they would have benefited our country and Americans' liberty.

[LibertyEagle]

What part of "No One But Paul" don't you understand?

What part of, he dropped out of the race and pretty early on, do you not understand?

If you are upset about that, perhaps you should take your temper tantrum to Rand.

[CPUd]

http://i.imgur.com/ThBjDon.jpg

[CPUd]

What part of, he dropped out of the race and pretty early on, do you not understand?

If you are upset about that, perhaps you should take your temper tantrum to Rand.

Just trying to help you out. A majority of RPF members did not support any candidate after Rand dropped out. RPFs did not support another candidate either. Not making a choice is also a choice. Attempting to promote anti-liberty candidates and anti-liberty ideas on a site with the Pauls' name and pictures is always a bad idea.

[Ender]

What part of, he dropped out of the race and pretty early on, do you not understand?

If you are upset about that, perhaps you should take your temper tantrum to Rand.

You're the one with the temper tantrum, lady.

Why not just accept that both choices were shit.

[enhanced_deficit]

Once Rand dropped out, who would you have preferred?

Rand made a strategic blunder by not making DGP no.1 target of his attacks. After that point, Trump's win was inevitable as he was seen the most vocal critic of DGP by GOP base.

After Rand dropped out, there was no better candidate than Trump in either party who was more capable of taking on Clinton-DGP-Media cabal. He's still way better than DGP-Hillary cabal.



What part of "No One But Paul" don't you understand?

Not even DGP Obama/Hillary?

Thought you were Obama/Hillary supporter.

[CPUd]

America First!

858314619261267970
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/858314619261267970

https://i.imgur.com/qUYMOf9.gif

[Jan2017]

I believe these are US troops from western Iraq in to eastern Syria protecting Kurds from Turkey attacks,
because US will need Kurds to attack IS in Raqqa (?)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A9ev44rQFc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A9ev44rQFc

[CPUd]

Hopefully President Donald can save Syria and deliver world peace.

858276743190372352
https://twitter.com/MHJournalist/status/858276743190372352

858409580694470668
https://twitter.com/kaji_83/status/858409580694470668

[timosman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHrFEnL9CfM

[Jan2017]

US "had troops within six miles" of Turkey's recent attack on Kurds.

US said they were given "less than an hour warning" of the impending attack -
Turkey says they "gave two hour notice to our partners"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icP_41cOxVM

[Superfluous Man]

He's right.

And the beautiful thing is that you can go right down a full list of every major political issue and repeat that quote, replacing the words "nationalist" and "globalist" with every respective pair of opposing positions, and it would still apply to Trump.

[r3volution 3.0]

Trump wants to work within the global economy

Yes, by erecting tariffs and walls and otherwise restricting the free flow of goods and people across borders.


while keeping US national interests first.

US National Interests:

#1 Bomb Yemen
#2 Bomb Syria
#3 Bomb Afghanistan
#4 Bomb North Korea?
#5 Bomb Iran?
#6 Increase "defense" spending
...


He goes both ways.

Indeed

https://s3.amazonaws.com/wp-ag/wp-content/uploads/sites/72/2015/08/TrumpRudy1.gif

[LibertyEagle]

But, let us all remember that Rev3's wet dream is world government.

http://i65.tinypic.com/291dz7c.jpg

[Ender]

But, let us all remember that Rev3's wet dream is world government.

http://i65.tinypic.com/291dz7c.jpg

Reported- you've posted this a million times while misrepresenting his statements on purpose.

[r3volution 3.0]

But, let us all remember that Rev3's wet dream is world government.

That's correct; I have the same view as Mises, that world government would mean world peace.

[CCTelander]

Reported- you've posted this a million times while misrepresenting his statements on purpose.


+rep for continuing to point out the deceitful way thiat quote by rev3 has consistently been cited.

[John Prewett]

The Pope is THE kingpin of the Globalist cabal.
The Globalist are in the process of ending the current world order. Of turning all the "sovereign" nations into failed states.

http://i.imgur.com/6TY22pz.png

[H. E. Panqui]

..think globalist, act nationalist...[f@ck individualist]

...ugh...waaaaay too many republican cheerleaders/apologists around here...this does not bode well for those seeking intelligent discourse...

[LibertyEagle]

Just trying to help you out. A majority of RPF members did not support any candidate after Rand dropped out. RPFs did not support another candidate either. Not making a choice is also a choice. Attempting to promote anti-liberty candidates and anti-liberty ideas on a site with the Pauls' name and pictures is always a bad idea.

Why then did I not see you railing against those members who supported Gary Johnson and his world government running mate? Do tell?

And last time I checked, CPUL, there were different subforums on this site, ye 'old Hillary voter.

[LibertyEagle]

Reported- you've posted this a million times while misrepresenting his statements on purpose.

No, I in fact have not misrepresented him at all. Which you would know if you read his many posts on the subject.

[LibertyEagle]

That's correct; I have the same view as Mises, that world government would mean world peace.

Haven't you also claimed that Ron Paul wants world government?

[CPUd]

Why then did I not see you railing against those members who supported Gary Johnson and his world government running mate? Do tell?

And last time I checked, CPUL, there were different subforums on this site, ye 'old Hillary voter.

Gary was never declared a non-mission supporting candidate, and Gary supporters were not on here trying to campaign for him like they did in 2012.

[LibertyEagle]

Gary was never declared a non-mission supporting candidate, and Gary supporters were not on here trying to campaign for him like they did in 2012.

No, they did not support the mission of this site. The fact that you claim at this point that he and his world government bud did, at this point, is a huge laugh. You do remember they told people to vote for Hillary, right? lolol

[CPUd]

No, they did not support the mission of this site. The fact that you claim at this point that he and his world government bud did, at this point, is a huge laugh. You do remember they told people to vote for Hillary, right? lolol

Post a link to the campaign review where Bryan said he was destructive to the site mission.

Here is the link for Donald:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?491719-Campaign-Evaluation-Donald-Trump-(POTUS)&p=6161418&viewfull=1#post6161418

[LibertyEagle]

Post a link to the campaign review where Bryan said he was destructive to the site mission.

Did I claim that? NOPE. :rolleyes:

[CPUd]

Did I claim that? NOPE. :rolleyes:

LOLOK

[r3volution 3.0]

Haven't you also claimed that Ron Paul wants world government?

No

Ron's never commented on Mises' view of world government, AFAIK.

He is in favor of global free trade and a global currency (i.e. a denationalized gold standard).

[r3volution 3.0]

No, I in fact have not misrepresented him at all. Which you would know if you read his many posts on the subject.

You have, actually, insofar as your implication is that I'm in the Soros camp, when I'm actually in the Mises camp.

But I don't attribute to dishonesty what can be explained by ignorance (you appear not to understand the difference).

Now, go punch a piñata.

[LibertyEagle]

You have, actually, insofar as your implication is that I'm in the Soros camp, when I'm actually in the Mises camp.

But I don't attribute to dishonesty what can be explained by ignorance (you appear not to understand the difference).

Now, go punch a piñata.

I never mentioned Soros. lol. That came out of YOUR mind. Wonder why. hmmm

[LibertyEagle]

LOLOK

You seem to be having trouble differentiating between:

Was Johnson and his world government loving vp candidate; not to mention Hillary endorsers, supportive of the site mission.

and

Did Bryan post, or even believe, that Johnson and his world government loving vp candidate; not to mention Hillary endorsers, supportive of the site mission.

[r3volution 3.0]

I never mentioned Soros. lol. That came out of YOUR mind. Wonder why. hmmm

No, you don't prance around with your prized screenshot because you're aiming to inform people that I agree with Mises. :rolleyes:

You do it to associate me with your imagined Globalist Menace™ (Soros/Rothschild/Jesuits/aliens/whatever it is you believe).

Enough said. Now I'm going to return to my longstanding policy of ignoring you.

[LibertyEagle]

No, you don't prance around with your prized screenshot because you're aiming to inform people that I agree with Mises. :rolleyes:

You do it to associate me with your imagined Globalist Menace™ (Soros/Rothschild/Jesuits/aliens/whatever it is you believe).

Enough said. Now I'm going to return to my longstanding policy of ignoring you.

Nice try, rev. lol I'm not the only one who has been following your posts.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?510243-Trump-Why-was-there-the-Civil-War&p=6462678&viewfull=1#post6462678

[CPUd]

You seem to be having trouble differentiating between:

Was Johnson and his world government loving vp candidate; not to mention Hillary endorsers, supportive of the site mission.

and

Did Bryan post, or even believe, that Johnson and his world government loving vp candidate; not to mention Hillary endorsers, supportive of the site mission.

You seem to have trouble differentiating between lack of support and prohibition of support. Promotion of the Trump campaign was against site policy, whereas promotion of the Johnson campaign was not. There was a campaign evaluation thread for Johnson/Weld, if Bryan didn't score it as non mission supporting, then the case against it must have been weak. Perhaps if you or someone else could have come up with a better argument, the evaluation would have had different results.

[LibertyEagle]

You seem to have trouble differentiating between lack of support and prohibition of support. Promotion of the Trump campaign was against site policy, whereas promotion of the Johnson campaign was not. There was a campaign evaluation thread for Johnson/Weld, if Bryan didn't score it as non mission supporting, then the case against it must have been weak. Perhaps if you or someone else could have come up with a better argument, the evaluation would have had different results.

You are changing the subject.

To say a candidate who, in the end, ENDORSED HILLARY CLINTON, was aligned with the site's mission statement, is a joke. I realize you once voted for her, but seriously...

It was disappointing that Bryan never posted his withdrawal of support for this ticket, but that doesn't change the fact that Johnson/Weld in no way supported this site's mission. Unless you believe being a traitor to your country is supportive of the site's mission. Is that your position cpuD?

[CPUd]

You are changing the subject.

To say a candidate who, in the end, ENDORSED HILLARY CLINTON, was aligned with the site's mission statement, is a joke. I realize you once voted for her, but seriously...

It was disappointing that Bryan never posted his withdrawal of support for this ticket, but that doesn't change the fact that Johnson/Weld in no way supported this site's mission. Unless you believe being a traitor to your country is supportive of the site's mission. Is that your position cpuD?

Apparently, screaming "OMG WORLD GOVERNMENT" and "BUT HILLARY" are not strong enough arguments to get a campaign labeled as non mission supporting. Maybe your mission does not align with the site mission?

[Ender]

Nice try, rev. lol I'm not the only one who has been following your posts.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?510243-Trump-Why-was-there-the-Civil-War&p=6462678&viewfull=1#post6462678

WHOA- that's some crush you got.

[twomp]

You are changing the subject.

To say a candidate who, in the end, ENDORSED HILLARY CLINTON, was aligned with the site's mission statement, is a joke. I realize you once voted for her, but seriously...

It was disappointing that Bryan never posted his withdrawal of support for this ticket, but that doesn't change the fact that Johnson/Weld in no way supported this site's mission. Unless you believe being a traitor to your country is supportive of the site's mission. Is that your position cpuD?

They said to vote for Clinton and you blow your lid (understandable). Trump tells people to vote for McCain and you are like "GO TRUMP!!!" Trump puts neocons all over his cabinet including choosing one to be his Vice President and you are his one his biggest cheerleaders. Hypocrite much? Cheering on a globalist while condemning globalism.

[LibertyEagle]

No

Ron's never commented on Mises' view of world government, AFAIK.

He is in favor of global free trade and a global currency (i.e. a denationalized gold standard).

You are twisting Ron's words. But, you knew that. Ron Paul is not in favor of world government. Period. Nor a "global currency".

----------------

Seriously folks, do you not see what Rev3 is trying to do? Wake the hell up.

[LibertyEagle]

They said to vote for Clinton and you blow your lid (understandable). Trump tells people to vote for McCain and you are like "GO TRUMP!!!" Trump puts neocons all over his cabinet including choosing one to be his Vice President and you are his one his biggest cheerleaders. Hypocrite much? Cheering on a globalist while condemning globalism.

Show where I did what you claim. Post it.

[CPUd]

They said to vote for Clinton and you blow your lid (understandable). Trump tells people to vote for McCain and you are like "GO TRUMP!!!" Trump puts neocons all over his cabinet including choosing one to be his Vice President and you are his one his biggest cheerleaders. Hypocrite much? Cheering on a globalist while condemning globalism.

What else would you expect, from the member who has a McCain avatar?

[The Rebel Poet]

You are twisting Ron's words. But, you knew that. Ron Paul is not in favor of world government. Period. Nor a "global currency".

----------------

Seriously folks, do you not see what Rev3 is trying to do? Wake the hell up.
We all see what YOU are trying to do. Rev never said Ron wants global government, in fact he answered "no" to your question.

You are straight up gaslighting. You claim Rev said Ron wants globalism, then when he denies saying it, you claim that that very denial as saying it too. Did you really think we would fall for that?

[LibertyEagle]

We all see what YOU are trying to do. Rev never said Ron wants global government, in fact he answered "no" to your question.

Actually, he did not. He is well-documented on this site as desiring world government and having the ridiculous view that it would result in world peace. This viewpoint is in stark contrast to Ron Paul's view, by the way.

And bullshit that Ron Paul desires a world currency. And to even use those words when describing one of Dr. Paul's views is a complete and utter lie and an attempt to mislead people.

[The Rebel Poet]

Actually, he did not. He is well-documented on this site as desiring world government and having the ridiculous view that it would result in world peace. This viewpoint is in stark contrast to Ron Paul's view, by the way.

And bullshit that Ron Paul desires a world currency. And to even use those words when describing one of Dr. Paul's views is a complete and utter lie and an attempt to mislead people.
Actually, he did answer your question about Ron's views with a no.


No

Ron's never commented on Mises' view of world government, AFAIK.

Stop trying to mislead people.

[Superfluous Man]

You are twisting Ron's words. But, you knew that. Ron Paul is not in favor of world government. Period. Nor a "global currency".


That last part is false. Ron Paul is on the record multiple times zealously advocating that we replace our current fiat currency with a global currency like gold. It's one of his pet issues.

[devil21]

That last part is false. Ron Paul is on the record multiple times zealously advocating that we replace our current fiat currency with a global currency like gold. It's one of his pet issues.

Slick wording there. Ron has never advocated for a global currency. Please back up your assertion. He has advocated for competing currencies. Gold is a global currency in that it is recognized all around the world, sure, but in the context of this thread a "global currency" is a centrally managed currency.

[twomp]

Show where I did what you claim. Post it.

You cheer on Trump everyday! You don't care about the neocons he supports and adds to his cabinet. Yet, being the hypocrite you are, you cry up and down on these forums about Gary Johnson and his choices.

[LibertyEagle]

That last part is false. Ron Paul is on the record multiple times zealously advocating that we replace our current fiat currency with a global currency like gold. It's one of his pet issues.

Ron does not talk in positive terms about global government or any kind of global currency. Period.

[LibertyEagle]

You cheer on Trump everyday! You don't care about the neocons he supports and adds to his cabinet. Yet, being the hypocrite you are, you cry up and down on these forums about Gary Johnson and his choices.

You lied. Again. And instead of backing up your last lie (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?510143-TRUMP-I-m-a-nationalist-and-a-globalist-I-m-both&p=6462903&viewfull=1#post6462903) with proof like you were asked, you post some more whiny bull, trying to distract from the point.

[otherone]

WHOA- that's some crush you got.

She keeps files on all the globalists. They're stored in a cabinet lined with aluminum foil.

[Ender]

She keeps files on all the globalists. They're stored in a cabinet lined with aluminum foil.

And a little pointy hat. ;)

[John Prewett]

Let's get something straight .... Believe it or not ... the Globalist will prevail. The "sovereign" nations world order is on the way out.

[twomp]

You lied. Again. And instead of backing up your last lie (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?510143-TRUMP-I-m-a-nationalist-and-a-globalist-I-m-both&p=6462903&viewfull=1#post6462903) with proof like you were asked, you post some more whiny bull, trying to distract from the point.

Please show me where you were critical of Trump and his neocon choices? You don't dare speak ill of your lord and master. You're the liar.

[Danke]

Let's get something straight .... Believe it or not ... the Globalist will prevail. The "sovereign" nations world order is on the way out.


Interesting