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enhanced_deficit
04-20-2017, 12:15 AM
Dem leaders have started to throw disgraced DGP (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?433586-Majority-of-Americans-now-believe-Obama-is-quot-dishonest-and-untrustworthy) under the bus already:

Keith Ellison Says Obama Is Responsible for Democrats Collapsing, Legacy in ‘Jeopardy’ (http://freebeacon.com/politics/keith-ellison-says-obama-is-responsible-for-democrats-collapsing-in-2016-legacy-in-jeopardy/)

BY: Cameron Cawthorne
April 19, 2017 3:14 pm
Rep. Keith Ellison (D., Minn.) spoke Wednesday at the University of Minnesota, where he said that former President Barack Obama deserved some of the blame for the Democrats collapsing in 2016.
"Speaking of presidential politics, was President Obama responsible for some of the failures of 2016 and if so, how?" one of the moderators asked.
"Yeah, he was," Ellison said.
Ellison, who serves as the deputy chairman of the Democratic National Committee, said Obama could have been a better party leader.



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmdICjVUIWc

Ender
04-20-2017, 07:18 AM
Riiiight.

I'm sure it had nothing to do with Hillary. :rolleyes:

shakey1
04-20-2017, 07:52 AM
That looked to be a rather forced performance.

https://img.ifcdn.com/images/b7fd10e9a48409d112e58f4278b571ca4eb7251b65843e2382 f8f8cc3fdbd0e8_1.jpg

jmdrake
04-20-2017, 08:16 AM
Riiiight.

I'm sure it had nothing to do with Hillary. :rolleyes:

Actually, this time I think this is sensible analysis by the DNC rather than deflection. Hillary would have stood a better chance in 2008 running against the legacy of George W. Bush than she did in 2016 trying to defend the legacy of Barack Hussein Obama. Don't forget that during the campaign, even Bill Clinton had to admit that Obamacare was "a crazy system." Bernie Sanders was running on a platform of "fixing" Obamcare by basically making it more socialist. Obama, like George W. Bush, and Bill Clinton before, was a polarizing figure, very popular with his base and very unpopular with those that opposed him. So the democratic party kept losing ground in congressional and local elections, especially when Obama wasn't on the ballot, even though Obama won re-election. Come to think of it, Reagan is the only president in recent memory where someone of the same party won the next election.

enhanced_deficit
04-20-2017, 10:11 AM
Riiiight.

I'm sure it had nothing to do with Hillary. :rolleyes:

Both Hillary and Trump had heavy baggage but to be fair, DGP may have helped SWC Hillary lose the race in 2016.

http://images.dailykos.com/images/261469/story_image/QUALIEFIED.jpeg?1465503544
http://www.snopes.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/obama-2008.jpg

enhanced_deficit
04-21-2017, 02:22 PM
He's right, Trump would not have won without Obama's help:




By Blair Guild CBS News April 20, 2017

DNC deputy chair says Obama partly to blame for Trump victory, Democratic losses

http://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2017/04/20/c6c05330-4acb-4aa1-bc16-04bc1f2ea98d/thumbnail/620x350/164f21b6f371677ab9e23a7d421f96bf/ap-17056681973550.jpg# Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn, who is a candidate to run the Democratic National Committee, speaks during the general session of the DNC winter meeting in Atlanta, Saturday, Feb. 25, 2017.

AP Photo/Branden Camp

Deputy Chairman of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) Rep. Keith Ellison is blaming former President Obama, in part, for some of the Democratic party’s losses in 2016.

The Minnesota Democrat said that Obama “could have been a better party leader” at an event at the University of Minnesota on Wednesday. “The fact that he wasn’t has put his legacy in jeopardy,” Ellison said.

Ellison, despite being “a great fan of President Obama” and voting for “many of the things he supported,” criticized Obama, saying that he should have paid closer attention to party politics and engaged more with Democratic leaders to help protect their positions in office, and thus protect his legacy (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-legacy-twitter/).
“His legacy is the work he’s done, which I believe is tremendous,” Ellison said. “But given we lost a lot of statehouse seats, governorships, secretary of states, his true legacy is in danger, and I think he can’t say that he wasn’t part of those losses. I mean, who else?”

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/dnc-deputy-chair-says-obama-partly-to-blame-for-trump-victory-democratic-losses/




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enhanced_deficit
04-23-2017, 01:09 PM
http://images.dailykos.com/images/261469/story_image/QUALIEFIED.jpeg?1465503544




Trump voters don’t have buyer’s remorse. But some Hillary Clinton voters do.



By Aaron Blake (https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/aaron-blake/) April 23

Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump meet for their first presidential debate at Hofstra University in Hempstead, N.Y., on Sept. 26. (Melina Mara/The Washington Post)

I argued last week that anecdotal stories about disillusioned Trump supporters were overdone. The fact is that, on a broad scale, Trump supporters say they aren't disappointed. In fact, a poll showed they were more pleased than disappointed, by about 5 to 1:
...The Pew Research Center released a poll showing very little buyer's remorse among Trump voters. The poll showed just 7 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say Trump has performed worse than they expected him to. Fully 38 percent — five times as many — say he has performed better.

A new Washington Post-ABC News poll (https://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2017/04/23/National-Politics/Polling/release_466.xml?tid=a_inl) confirms this — in spades. And, in fact, it shows more buyer's remorse for Trump's opponent in the 2016 election, Hillary Clinton. And were the 2016 election held again today, it shows Trump would avenge his popular-vote loss.
While just 4 percent of Trump's supporters say they would back someone else if there was a redo of the election, fully 15 percent of Clinton supporters say they would ditch her. Trump leads in a re-do of the 2016 election 43 percent to 40 percent after losing the popular vote 46-44.
That 15 percent is split between those who say they would vote for Trump (2 percent), Gary Johnson (4 percent), Jill Stein (2 percent), and either other candidates or not vote (7 percent).

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/files/2017/04/ClintonBuyers.jpg&w=1484



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/23/trump-voters-dont-have-buyers-remorse-but-some-hillary-clinton-voters-do/


Poll is being reported by fakish news outlet (WaPo) , so should be interpretted with few grains of salt.